2025 Deficit comes in at 1.97 Trillion. This Is Way Out of Hand

[candycorn]

If you are discussing Trump-47, his budget didn't start yet. The shutdown is preventing the appropriations bills from being passed. So that $1.5T cut didn't happen yet. Any borrowing is from Biden's last "fiscal" 2025 budget, Biden get hit thru the end of September, after that its on Trump's fiscal tab.

On what day can we start calling this the Trump economy? Just pick a date so we know when you guys will stop blaming Biden.

 

[initforme]

You think wages made the biggest difference to the corporations that moved to china.

Corporate taxes, social security taxes, workmen compensation insurance, property tax, city tax, state tax, federal tax, the sign tax, sales taxes cost a corporation more than wages.

Complying with federal and state laws, rules and regulations, add that to the costs, corporations pay more to the government than to employees.

How about endless lawsuits? Just for existing corporations get sued. A corporation wants to remodel a bathroom they get sued. Try to start or expand, the corporations get sued

Wages? Corporations hardly got any money left to pay wages.

Want to do business here then pay up or ship out. Paying taxes is part of the deal. As far as regulations dont pollute and dont break our laws. Dont like it bug bye go overseas

 

[kyzr]

Point is, big oil had plenty of oil leases they didn't use, because again- much cheaper to just buy from OPEC.

Gas prices still haven't gone down under Cheeto Hitler, have they?

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[elektra]

He caused inflation across the entire world? Really?

He no, democrats yes. Biden is brain dead with dementia. Anybody could see that, anyone who paid attention to politics the last 20 years

Joeb, correct me if I am wrong, you are stating the largest economy in the world can not cause inflation

Your claim is even though the USA is the world's bank we cant cause inflation

The USA printing tens of trillions of dollars and then buying up everything with all that extra cash that dont cause inflation?

I would say you need an economics lesson but it is much simpler than that. The next time you play monopoly cheat and put an extra 5k in the game and see what happens to the price of the properties, the price inflates, inflation

Yes printing tens of trillions causes inflation across the world

 

[elektra]

Want to do business here then pay up or ship out. Paying taxes is part of the deal. As far as regulations dont pollute and dont break our laws. Dont like it bug bye go overseas

You got your wish, they shipped out and you get to buy chinese junk

Now what is your point about wages, you sounded like you want cheap chinese junk

 

[elektra]

Those pesky Americans...actually want a safe workplace and a clean environment.

Bastards!

Those crooked democrats said **** that we will go pollute china and got multi-million dollar bonuses

Candycorn dont care about shitting in the neighbors backyard, then wonders where the smell comes from

 

[initforme]

You got your wish, they shipped out and you get to buy chinese junk

Now what is your point about wages, you sounded like you want cheap chinese junk

Id like to see american workers get paid more. America first.

 

[kyzr]

On what day can we start calling this the Trump economy? Just pick a date so we know when you guys will stop blaming Biden.

It depends on what Trump policies you are referring to.
The tariffs are Trump's and are working well.
The Fed is late lowering interest rates, so their "cut" effects won't hit for a while.
Same with the commitments to build new manufacturing plants, they will take time to build.
Trump's energy policies, drill baby drill, more nuclear powerplants, more gas powerplants, more oil pipelines will all take time to build.

If you want to say when is Trump responsible for the GDP, I'd say 2Q25, since his tariffs hit the GDP then.

What do you think of TrumpRx reducing drug costs?
How about Trump foreign policy, bomb Iran's nuke program, and now a ceasefire in Gaza?
How about reducing crime in the big high crime cities?

What we blame Biden for was his hit to family finances. Bidenflation cost US families $11,400 a year in buying power.
That will take a few years to recover from, as people get raises net inflation.
Trump's no tax on tips, SS, and OT will help.

 

[Nostra]

Clinton's lasts three years showed almost no deficit. The CBO actually claims he had a surplus.

The CBO also looked at economic conditions and projected that the debt could have been paid off in Bush's 2nd term had he staid the course.

Of course, he didn't and should be shot, buried, dug up, and burned to a crisp for his terrible waste of money and LIVES.

If the debt never went down during the 3 years of supposed surplus, why would it disappear over 10 if we stayed the course?

 

[elektra]

On what day can we start calling this the Trump economy? Just pick a date so we know when you guys will stop blaming Biden.

Biden has dementia, a president with worms for brains is a puppet

The Trump economy, hahaha, the damage the democrats have done to the economy wont be fixed in this century

Trillions upon trillions the democrats squandered, 100, 200, 300 trillions, we lost so much because of democrats

 

[Nostra]

You really need to turn off the Hate Radio, dude.

The oil companies had 9000 leases for public lands they weren't using. Why? Because it was simply cheaper to buy from the Arabs.

So none of Biden's leases were used? Then why do you clowns give him credit for increased oil production?

 

[Nostra]

So the blob only ran up $2T in debt after cutting supposedly $1.5T? Care to tell us how he managed to do that?

FY2025 is Biden's budget, moron.


Man, your stupidity is astounding.

 

[Nostra]

Blah, blah, blah.

Point is, big oil had plenty of oil leases they didn't use, because again- much cheaper to just buy from OPEC.

Gas prices still haven't gone down under Cheeto Hitler, have they?

Why would big oil buy from OPEC?

 

[elektra]

Id like to see american workers get paid more. America first.

Why dont you want to see us pay less in taxes and fees. Why dont youbwant to see housing built so prices come down so we dont need more wages

 

[Hafar1014]

You think wages made the biggest difference to the corporations that moved to china.

Corporate taxes, social security taxes, workmen compensation insurance, property tax, city tax, state tax, federal tax, the sign tax, sales taxes cost a corporation more than wages.

Complying with federal and state laws, rules and regulations, add that to the costs, corporations pay more to the government than to employees.

How about endless lawsuits? Just for existing corporations get sued. A corporation wants to remodel a bathroom they get sued. Try to start or expand, the corporations get sued

Wages? Corporations hardly got any money left to pay wages.

Tax cuts do more then wage increases to increase spending power. The middle class just got huge tax cut. Force up wages by law and workers lose their jobs

 

[leftwinger]

So none of Biden's leases were used? Then why do you clowns give him credit for increased oil production?

Without looking it up, I am betting they used increase off China Flu numbers to justify. Always dishonest.

 

[Nostra]

Without looking it up, I am betting they used increase off China Flu numbers to justify. Always dishonest.

They used "record oil production under Biden" trying to claim he had anything to do with it. I have asked for a link to exactly what he did that increased production, but none of the Dimwinger Cult mob her has ever been able to show the class ANYTHING.

 

[initforme]

Why dont you want to see us pay less in taxes and fees. Why dont youbwant to see housing built so prices come down so we dont need more wages

Its not going to happen. Ever.

 

[candycorn]

Biden has dementia, a president with worms for brains is a puppet

The Trump economy, hahaha, the damage the democrats have done to the economy wont be fixed in this century

Trillions upon trillions the democrats squandered, 100, 200, 300 trillions, we lost so much because of democrats

More moronic ramblings from you.

Just give us a date when Trump becomes responsible. You’re not scared to do so are you, Shirley?

 

[candycorn]

It depends on what Trump policies you are referring to.
The tariffs are Trump's and are working well.
The Fed is late lowering interest rates, so their "cut" effects won't hit for a while.
Same with the commitments to build new manufacturing plants, they will take time to build.
Trump's energy policies, drill baby drill, more nuclear powerplants, more gas powerplants, more oil pipelines will all take time to build.

If you want to say when is Trump responsible for the GDP, I'd say 2Q25, since his tariffs hit the GDP then.

What do you think of TrumpRx reducing drug costs?
How about Trump foreign policy, bomb Iran's nuke program, and now a ceasefire in Gaza?
How about reducing crime in the big high crime cities?

What we blame Biden for was his hit to family finances. Bidenflation cost US families $11,400 a year in buying power.
That will take a few years to recover from, as people get raises net inflation.
Trump's no tax on tips, SS, and OT will help.

So...by January 1, 2026...we can start giving Trump credit for the failures/successes then right?

Just give us a date.