1938:Chamberlain The British Prime Minister has been hailed as bringing "peace to Europe"

[healthmyths]

The analogy requires an assumption that Iran's aim is a thousand year Reich.

Correction
A thousand year Caliphate.

Yet Iran is assisting Iraq AGAINST the caliphate.

To Defeat ISIS, Iraq Forced to Accept Iran's 'Suffocating Embrace'
Baghdad must make unsavory choices as the U.S. sits out a key battle to retake a strategic town from the Islamic State group.

Absent U.S. Forces Iraq Turns to Iran Militias for ISIS Fight in Tikrit Mosul - US News

Does that sound like the US is opposing Iran's objectives?????

 

[g5000]

ISIS militants outline chilling five-year plan for global domination Daily Mail Online

Now if this isn't a plan that Iran supports...

Jesus, the manufacturing of bullshit has really reached a new level around here.

 

[BlindBoo]

Damn the Appeaser........

Iraq launches offensive to drive Islamic State from biggest province Reuters


Iraqi troops and Shi'ite Muslim militia forces attacked Islamic State fighters on several fronts on Monday in Anbar, the country's largest province, at the start of what is likely to be a long and fiercely contested offensive.

A spokesman for the joint operations command said the campaign, which began at dawn, brought together the army, mainly Shi'ite Hashid Shaabi militias, special forces, police and local Sunni Muslim tribal fighters.

"At 5 o'clock this morning operations to liberate Anbar were launched," the spokesman said.

 

[williepete]

 

[regent]

If one checks the history they will discover England had nothing to stop Hitler at Munich. At the end of WWI England was devastated and passed a rule for ten years that there would be no war so no preparation was needed. At the end of the ten years they passed it again finally at Churchill's suggestion they made the "Ten Year Rule" sort of permanent. England had nothing to stop Hitler and Chamberlain knew it too well.

 

[Katzndogz]

The difference between Chamberlain and obumble is that people believed Chamberlain.

 

[Political Junky]

The OP fails as a false comparison fallacy.

And you are being redundant. "false comparison fallacy.".... what else is can "false" be but a fallacy?

But where is the "false comparison"?
Hitler was threatening Europe.
Iran has SAID clearly within the last two weeks:
July 14, 2015 at 4:00 am
Tehran staged its traditional Quds Day[1] rallies on July 10 in 770 cities across Iran. Quds Day was established by the founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran, the late Imam Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini, ostensibly to unify the Muslim world to "liberate" the Palestinian people from the "Zionist Entity's" disputed "occupation."

However, in reality, Quds Day has become a day in which Iran and protestors in other societies attack the legitimacy of the state of Israel ("The Little Satan") and threaten the United States ("The Big Satan").

In the lead-up to Quds Day, the former President of Iran, Al Akbar Rafsanjani, mused in an interview about the eventual disappearance of Israel from history. [2]

The chants at this year's rallies were familiar: "Death to America" and "Death to Israel."

Reportedly, President Hassan Rouhani attended a rally in Tehran and was treated to posters of Prime Minister Netanyahu, President Obama, and King Salman of Saudi Arabia being burned. He did not protest.
The ritualistic rally-cries of death to America and Israel, and the burning in effigy of the leaders of Israel, America, and Saudi Arabia underscore the basic lie that underpins Quds Day: the Iranian regime is focused on Iran's revolutionary extremist agenda, not on the welfare of Palestinian Arabs.
Iran s Quds Day Death to America Death to Israel
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I'm trying to understand how a "This deal offers an opportunity to move in a new direction," Obama said. "We should seize it."
when participants what the destruction of Israel and the U.S.
Do we see ANY similar protests in Israel/U.S. calling for the destruction of Iran or the burning of Iranian flag?

Distance can be emotionally deceiving. The nuclear deal imperils the United States as much as Israel, just not as immediately. The Supreme Leader directs crowds in chanting "Death to America." The Iranian navy practices blowing up U.S. aircraft carriers, and its armed forces bear responsibility for the deaths of hundreds of American soldiers who fought bravely in Iraq.

Ex-envoy Iran deal bad for Israel U.S. and world - CNN.com
Has there been any similar practices of blowing up Iranian vessels?

Most Iranians love America, Americans, and American products.

 

[Political Junky]

Well, Chamberlain was Conservative.

 

[g5000]

The pants shitters are playing the law of averages, in the belief that if they cry, "WOLF!" a few thousand times, sooner or later they will be right.

EBOLAZ GONNA GIT YA!

OBAMAZ CUMMIN FER YER GUNZ!

1.6 BILLION ROUNDZ A AMMO!

600 FEMA CAMPS!

DA ARMEEZ GOIN TA LOCK YOO UP IN WALMART'S BASEMENT!

DEAD MEXICAN FELONZ ARE A'VOTIN BY THE MILLIONZ!

THE DARKIES ARE IN THE WIRE!

TH3 GAYZ! TH3 GAYZ! TH3 GAYZ!

BOOOOMMMM! SWOOOOSHHHHH! THIS JUST IN: THE IRANIACS ARE AGONNA NUCLEATE THE JEWZ!

 

[healthmyths]

The OP fails as a false comparison fallacy.

And you are being redundant. "false comparison fallacy.".... what else is can "false" be but a fallacy?

But where is the "false comparison"?
Hitler was threatening Europe.
Iran has SAID clearly within the last two weeks:
July 14, 2015 at 4:00 am
Tehran staged its traditional Quds Day[1] rallies on July 10 in 770 cities across Iran. Quds Day was established by the founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran, the late Imam Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini, ostensibly to unify the Muslim world to "liberate" the Palestinian people from the "Zionist Entity's" disputed "occupation."

However, in reality, Quds Day has become a day in which Iran and protestors in other societies attack the legitimacy of the state of Israel ("The Little Satan") and threaten the United States ("The Big Satan").

In the lead-up to Quds Day, the former President of Iran, Al Akbar Rafsanjani, mused in an interview about the eventual disappearance of Israel from history. [2]

The chants at this year's rallies were familiar: "Death to America" and "Death to Israel."

Reportedly, President Hassan Rouhani attended a rally in Tehran and was treated to posters of Prime Minister Netanyahu, President Obama, and King Salman of Saudi Arabia being burned. He did not protest.
The ritualistic rally-cries of death to America and Israel, and the burning in effigy of the leaders of Israel, America, and Saudi Arabia underscore the basic lie that underpins Quds Day: the Iranian regime is focused on Iran's revolutionary extremist agenda, not on the welfare of Palestinian Arabs.
Iran s Quds Day Death to America Death to Israel
View attachment 44557

I'm trying to understand how a "This deal offers an opportunity to move in a new direction," Obama said. "We should seize it."
when participants what the destruction of Israel and the U.S.
Do we see ANY similar protests in Israel/U.S. calling for the destruction of Iran or the burning of Iranian flag?

Distance can be emotionally deceiving. The nuclear deal imperils the United States as much as Israel, just not as immediately. The Supreme Leader directs crowds in chanting "Death to America." The Iranian navy practices blowing up U.S. aircraft carriers, and its armed forces bear responsibility for the deaths of hundreds of American soldiers who fought bravely in Iraq.

Ex-envoy Iran deal bad for Israel U.S. and world - CNN.com
Has there been any similar practices of blowing up Iranian vessels?

Most Iranians love America, Americans, and American products.

Don't disagree with that! And most Iranians like most americans don't want to see gays crucified...but it happens.
So what do you think should be done? Let Iran leaders like the below continue to hate the US/Israel?

The Supreme Leader of Iran (Persian: ولی فقیه ایران‎, vali-e faghih-e iran,[1] lit. Guardian Jurist of Iran, or رهبر انقلاب, rahbar-e enghelab,[2] lit. Leader of the Revolution), officially in Iran, the Supreme Leadership Authority (Persian: مقام معظم رهبری‎) is the head of state and highest ranking political and religious authority in the Islamic Republic of Iran. The post was established by the constitution in accordance with the concept of Guardianship of the Islamic Jurists.[3] The title "Supreme" Leader (Persian: ولی فقیه, vali-e faghih) is often used as a sign of respect; however, this terminology is not found in the constitution of Iran, which simply referred to the "Leader" (rahbar; رهبر).

The leader is more powerful than the President of Iran and appoints the heads of many powerful posts in the military, the civil government, and the judiciary.[4] Originally Iran's constitution stated that the Leader must be a Marja'-e taqlid, the highest ranking cleric and authority on religious laws in Usuli Twelver Shia Islam. However in 1989, the constitution was amended to require simply Islamic "scholarship" of the leader, i.e. the leader could be a lower ranking cleric.[5][6]

In its history, the Islamic Republic has had two Supreme Leaders: Ruhollah Khomeini, who held the position from 1979 until his death in 1989, and Sayyed Ali Khamenei, who has held the position since Khomeini's death.

The Supreme Leader is elected and supervised by the Assembly of Experts. Also, the declaration of war and peace is to be made by the Supreme Leader together with a two-thirds majority of Parliament.

 

[regent]

The difference between Chamberlain and obumble is that people believed Chamberlain.

And how do you know this?

 

[healthmyths]

hm has created a very good Fallacy of false derivative analogy.

The two situations are very, very different.

The only alternatives were to crank up sanctions or go to war. War will not produce the results wanted by the West, and sanctions may have led to the collapse of major portions of the Middle East, which would lead to catastrophic results for the world.

You far right neo-cons need to think with your head on your shoulders not the head of your dick.

And you think these people think with their heads???

 

[bripat9643]

hm has created a very good Fallacy of false derivative analogy.

The two situations are very, very different.

The only alternatives were to crank up sanctions or go to war. War will not produce the results wanted by the West, and sanctions may have led to the collapse of major portions of the Middle East, which would lead to catastrophic results for the world.
....

Actually that is kind of the situation that Chamberlain was in.

THey wanted to stop Hitler but the only way to do it was a war they could not win, so, appeasement.

They could have easily won the war in 1938. Hitler has a paper tiger then.

 

[bripat9643]

The biggest disaster in modern US history was Bush's decision to go to war in Iraq. Was that appeasement, or the opposite?

The biggest disaster was Obama's election.

 

[eagle7_31]

ISIS militants outline chilling five-year plan for global domination Daily Mail Online

Now if this isn't a plan that Iran supports...

Jesus, the manufacturing of bullshit has really reached a new level around here.

Most of the bs comes from your side of the fence.

 

[bripat9643]

If one checks the history they will discover England had nothing to stop Hitler at Munich. At the end of WWI England was devastated and passed a rule for ten years that there would be no war so no preparation was needed. At the end of the ten years they passed it again finally at Churchill's suggestion they made the "Ten Year Rule" sort of permanent. England had nothing to stop Hitler and Chamberlain knew it too well.

FRance had a huge military, including more tanks than Hitler had. France could have easily invaded German and retook the Rhineland and Hitler would not have been able to stop it. Hitler even admitted as much.

 

[mamooth]

And you think these people think with their heads???

If you can't distinguish Iran from ISIS, you shouldn't be in the discussion.

And anyone who constantly declares every threat is just like Hitler also shouldn't be in the discussion.

 

[healthmyths]

And you think these people think with their heads???

If you can't distinguish Iran from ISIS, you shouldn't be in the discussion.

And anyone who constantly declares every threat is just like Hitler also shouldn't be in the discussion.

Tell that to these Iranians...

 

[regent]

If one checks the history they will discover England had nothing to stop Hitler at Munich. At the end of WWI England was devastated and passed a rule for ten years that there would be no war so no preparation was needed. At the end of the ten years they passed it again finally at Churchill's suggestion they made the "Ten Year Rule" sort of permanent. England had nothing to stop Hitler and Chamberlain knew it too well.

FRance had a huge military, including more tanks than Hitler had. France could have easily invaded German and retook the Rhineland and Hitler would not have been able to stop it. Hitler even admitted as much.

France was putting her faith and money into the Maginot line she had her defenses almost completed. But I think the biggie was both France and England just didn't want another war, The slaughter of WWI may have been a factor, in their reluctance to go to war so soon, it certainly was a major factor with Churchill's planning throughout the war.

 

[healthmyths]

If one checks the history they will discover England had nothing to stop Hitler at Munich. At the end of WWI England was devastated and passed a rule for ten years that there would be no war so no preparation was needed. At the end of the ten years they passed it again finally at Churchill's suggestion they made the "Ten Year Rule" sort of permanent. England had nothing to stop Hitler and Chamberlain knew it too well.

FRance had a huge military, including more tanks than Hitler had. France could have easily invaded German and retook the Rhineland and Hitler would not have been able to stop it. Hitler even admitted as much.

France was putting her faith and money into the Maginot line she had her defenses almost completed. But I think the biggie was both France and England just didn't want another war, The slaughter of WWI may have been a factor, in their reluctance to go to war so soon, it certainly was a major factor with Churchill's planning throughout the war.

Sounds familiar. Remember Obama stumped on ending the liberation of Iraq and even helped in creating the ISIS community with statements like these that he and the other idiot traitors made about the USA!!!

Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children." He called our troops "Terrorists"!

U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D)"Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”
NOTE: Do you not believe the terrorists LOVED to hear our troops were cold blooded killers???

Durbin (D) "must have been done by Nazis, Soviets"--action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.

then Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "The war is lost, the surge is not accomplishing anything "

And of course the ISIS mutation of the above traitors HEROs into what they are now happened.