17 year old girl shot and killed, 16 year old boy critically shot, in gun controlled Britain.

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Two separate shootings in a country that has done everything the anti gunners in America want.....they went the extra, extreme distance, and banned and confiscated guns...they didn't play the anti gun game here, where they pretend to want "common sense" gun control, then do everything to target law abiding gun owners while criminals and mass shooters laugh at them.....they went the Full Monty...they banned guns and confiscated them.....the only guns you can legally own in Britain are a few hunting shotguns that the wealthy "Posh" Brits use for hunting pheasants on their private land.......

And now, after banning and confiscating guns.....their gun crime rate across England and Wales is up 23%......gun crime in Yorkshire is up 30%......and in London, their capital, with police cameras watching everything and everyone....their gun crime rate is up 42%.......and now London is more violent than New York, and just yesterday it was reported that their murder number was higher than New Yorks 2 months in a row.......

They were promised lower gun crime, and less violence if they just gave up their guns....guns that the law abiding British citizens did not use to commit any crimes......

And the criminals have ignored the confiscation and ban....and now, decades after they passed the ban....their gun crime numbers are going up, their violence rate is going up, as their social welfare state is no longer able to civilize their young males, and as 3rd world males bring 3rd world violence to their streets...

Teenage girl shot dead in Tottenham, north London

A 17-year-old girl has been killed and a 16-year-old boy is in a critical condition after two separate shootings in London.

Police were called to an incident in Tottenham at 9.35pm on Monday and found Tanesha Melbourne-Blake with a gunshot wound. She was pronounced dead at the scene.

A woman who knew Tanesha said that she was “just chilling with her friends” when she was shot from a car for “no reason at all” in Chalgrove Road, a residential street near Northumberland Park station.

“The car just pulled up and just started shooting,” said the 21-year-old, who did not want to be named. She said she heard the gunshots “like fireworks” from her house.
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Less than an hour later, officers were alerted to another shooting about three miles away in Walthamstow, east London, where they found a 16-year-old boy with gunshot injuries and a 15-year-old boy with stab wounds.
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On Thursday, the family of Abraham Badru, 26, who was shot dead in Hackney, east London, on 25 March, warned that “gun culture is becoming rampant in our community”.




 
Two separate shootings in a country that has done everything the anti gunners in America want.....they went the extra, extreme distance, and banned and confiscated guns...they didn't play the anti gun game here, where they pretend to want "common sense" gun control, then do everything to target law abiding gun owners while criminals and mass shooters laugh at them.....they went the Full Monty...they banned guns and confiscated them.....the only guns you can legally own in Britain are a few hunting shotguns that the wealthy "Posh" Brits use for hunting pheasants on their private land.......

And now, after banning and confiscating guns.....their gun crime rate across England and Wales is up 23%......gun crime in Yorkshire is up 30%......and in London, their capital, with police cameras watching everything and everyone....their gun crime rate is up 42%.......and now London is more violent than New York, and just yesterday it was reported that their murder number was higher than New Yorks 2 months in a row.......

They were promised lower gun crime, and less violence if they just gave up their guns....guns that the law abiding British citizens did not use to commit any crimes......

And the criminals have ignored the confiscation and ban....and now, decades after they passed the ban....their gun crime numbers are going up, their violence rate is going up, as their social welfare state is no longer able to civilize their young males, and as 3rd world males bring 3rd world violence to their streets...

Teenage girl shot dead in Tottenham, north London

A 17-year-old girl has been killed and a 16-year-old boy is in a critical condition after two separate shootings in London.

Police were called to an incident in Tottenham at 9.35pm on Monday and found Tanesha Melbourne-Blake with a gunshot wound. She was pronounced dead at the scene.

A woman who knew Tanesha said that she was “just chilling with her friends” when she was shot from a car for “no reason at all” in Chalgrove Road, a residential street near Northumberland Park station.

“The car just pulled up and just started shooting,” said the 21-year-old, who did not want to be named. She said she heard the gunshots “like fireworks” from her house.
-------

Less than an hour later, officers were alerted to another shooting about three miles away in Walthamstow, east London, where they found a 16-year-old boy with gunshot injuries and a 15-year-old boy with stab wounds.
---------

On Thursday, the family of Abraham Badru, 26, who was shot dead in Hackney, east London, on 25 March, warned that “gun culture is becoming rampant in our community”.



But, but, but???? Russia collusion......Trump lies.........It was the guns fault???

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You mean that they had two separate shooting incidents, and only one person shot in each? Quick, 2a, send them a load of AR's over so they can be like we are here, and get more than 10, or even 500 in one shooting.



26 Gun murders (equiv. 130) in England vs. *11,004* in US Annually
The US is downright weird compared to civilized Western Europe or Australia.

by
Juan Cole

guns_3.jpg

A gun show in Houston, Texas. (Photo: M&R Glasgow/flickr/cc)

There have been 1,516 mass shootings in 1,735 days in the United States. You’ll note you don’t hear about mass shootings in Australia, Japan or for the most part the United Kingdom, or other civilized countries whose politicians have not been bought by 10 major gun manufacturers.

The United States continues to be peculiar in handing out powerful magazine-fed firearms to almost anyone who wants one and not requiring background checks on private purchases even if these are made at gun shows or by persons with a history of mental illness. 80% of civilian-owned firearms world-wide are in the US, and only Yemen vaguely competes with us for rates of firearm ownership; Yemen is a violent mess with Shiite insurgencies, al-Qaeda taking over cities from time to time, tribal feuding, southern separatism and US drone strikes. And even it has fewer guns per person than the USA.

It has gotten to the point where the increasing epidemic of mass shootings now threatens law enforcement.

26 Gun murders (equiv. 130) in England vs. *11,004* in US Annually

Just think, if matters continue like that, our gun homocides might be equal in 3 or 4 centuries.
 
You mean that they had two separate shooting incidents, and only one person shot in each? Quick, 2a, send them a load of AR's over so they can be like we are here, and get more than 10, or even 500 in one shooting.



26 Gun murders (equiv. 130) in England vs. *11,004* in US Annually
The US is downright weird compared to civilized Western Europe or Australia.

by
Juan Cole

guns_3.jpg

A gun show in Houston, Texas. (Photo: M&R Glasgow/flickr/cc)

There have been 1,516 mass shootings in 1,735 days in the United States. You’ll note you don’t hear about mass shootings in Australia, Japan or for the most part the United Kingdom, or other civilized countries whose politicians have not been bought by 10 major gun manufacturers.

The United States continues to be peculiar in handing out powerful magazine-fed firearms to almost anyone who wants one and not requiring background checks on private purchases even if these are made at gun shows or by persons with a history of mental illness. 80% of civilian-owned firearms world-wide are in the US, and only Yemen vaguely competes with us for rates of firearm ownership; Yemen is a violent mess with Shiite insurgencies, al-Qaeda taking over cities from time to time, tribal feuding, southern separatism and US drone strikes. And even it has fewer guns per person than the USA.

It has gotten to the point where the increasing epidemic of mass shootings now threatens law enforcement.

26 Gun murders (equiv. 130) in England vs. *11,004* in US Annually

Just think, if matters continue like that, our gun homocides might be equal in 3 or 4 centuries.

Don't pretend you give a shit about the murder rate.

All you really care about is telling people they shouldn't own guns.

70% of all murders take place in very small areas of just 5 counties in the entire country. If you really gave a shit about the murder rate you would be talking about this and addressing your comments to the problem with our inner cities where the killing of young urban minorities by other young urban minorities is so rampant that it skews the murder rate for the entire country.

Get a handle on the problems in our cities and reduce the murder rate by up to 70% and VOILA the murder rate of the country plummets to virtually the same rate as those European socialist countries you want to emulate
 
You mean that they had two separate shooting incidents, and only one person shot in each? Quick, 2a, send them a load of AR's over so they can be like we are here, and get more than 10, or even 500 in one shooting.



26 Gun murders (equiv. 130) in England vs. *11,004* in US Annually
The US is downright weird compared to civilized Western Europe or Australia.

by
Juan Cole

guns_3.jpg

A gun show in Houston, Texas. (Photo: M&R Glasgow/flickr/cc)

There have been 1,516 mass shootings in 1,735 days in the United States. You’ll note you don’t hear about mass shootings in Australia, Japan or for the most part the United Kingdom, or other civilized countries whose politicians have not been bought by 10 major gun manufacturers.

The United States continues to be peculiar in handing out powerful magazine-fed firearms to almost anyone who wants one and not requiring background checks on private purchases even if these are made at gun shows or by persons with a history of mental illness. 80% of civilian-owned firearms world-wide are in the US, and only Yemen vaguely competes with us for rates of firearm ownership; Yemen is a violent mess with Shiite insurgencies, al-Qaeda taking over cities from time to time, tribal feuding, southern separatism and US drone strikes. And even it has fewer guns per person than the USA.

It has gotten to the point where the increasing epidemic of mass shootings now threatens law enforcement.

26 Gun murders (equiv. 130) in England vs. *11,004* in US Annually

Just think, if matters continue like that, our gun homocides might be equal in 3 or 4 centuries.
How many people have been shot in a Gun Show? I like how you show your picture, yet the proof is that it is the most secure place on the planet. I know I have gone to many of them...You are such a stupid bitch..
 
You mean that they had two separate shooting incidents, and only one person shot in each? Quick, 2a, send them a load of AR's over so they can be like we are here, and get more than 10, or even 500 in one shooting.



26 Gun murders (equiv. 130) in England vs. *11,004* in US Annually
The US is downright weird compared to civilized Western Europe or Australia.

by
Juan Cole

guns_3.jpg

A gun show in Houston, Texas. (Photo: M&R Glasgow/flickr/cc)

There have been 1,516 mass shootings in 1,735 days in the United States. You’ll note you don’t hear about mass shootings in Australia, Japan or for the most part the United Kingdom, or other civilized countries whose politicians have not been bought by 10 major gun manufacturers.

The United States continues to be peculiar in handing out powerful magazine-fed firearms to almost anyone who wants one and not requiring background checks on private purchases even if these are made at gun shows or by persons with a history of mental illness. 80% of civilian-owned firearms world-wide are in the US, and only Yemen vaguely competes with us for rates of firearm ownership; Yemen is a violent mess with Shiite insurgencies, al-Qaeda taking over cities from time to time, tribal feuding, southern separatism and US drone strikes. And even it has fewer guns per person than the USA.

It has gotten to the point where the increasing epidemic of mass shootings now threatens law enforcement.

26 Gun murders (equiv. 130) in England vs. *11,004* in US Annually

Just think, if matters continue like that, our gun homocides might be equal in 3 or 4 centuries.
Truly amazing at how consistently WRONG you are.

You think man causes climate change....WRONG

You think guns cause murders....WRONG.
 
Two separate shootings in a country that has done everything the anti gunners in America want.....they went the extra, extreme distance, and banned and confiscated guns...they didn't play the anti gun game here, where they pretend to want "common sense" gun control, then do everything to target law abiding gun owners while criminals and mass shooters laugh at them.....they went the Full Monty...they banned guns and confiscated them.....the only guns you can legally own in Britain are a few hunting shotguns that the wealthy "Posh" Brits use for hunting pheasants on their private land.......

And now, after banning and confiscating guns.....their gun crime rate across England and Wales is up 23%......gun crime in Yorkshire is up 30%......and in London, their capital, with police cameras watching everything and everyone....their gun crime rate is up 42%.......and now London is more violent than New York, and just yesterday it was reported that their murder number was higher than New Yorks 2 months in a row.......

They were promised lower gun crime, and less violence if they just gave up their guns....guns that the law abiding British citizens did not use to commit any crimes......

And the criminals have ignored the confiscation and ban....and now, decades after they passed the ban....their gun crime numbers are going up, their violence rate is going up, as their social welfare state is no longer able to civilize their young males, and as 3rd world males bring 3rd world violence to their streets...

Teenage girl shot dead in Tottenham, north London

A 17-year-old girl has been killed and a 16-year-old boy is in a critical condition after two separate shootings in London.

Police were called to an incident in Tottenham at 9.35pm on Monday and found Tanesha Melbourne-Blake with a gunshot wound. She was pronounced dead at the scene.

A woman who knew Tanesha said that she was “just chilling with her friends” when she was shot from a car for “no reason at all” in Chalgrove Road, a residential street near Northumberland Park station.

“The car just pulled up and just started shooting,” said the 21-year-old, who did not want to be named. She said she heard the gunshots “like fireworks” from her house.
-------

Less than an hour later, officers were alerted to another shooting about three miles away in Walthamstow, east London, where they found a 16-year-old boy with gunshot injuries and a 15-year-old boy with stab wounds.
---------

On Thursday, the family of Abraham Badru, 26, who was shot dead in Hackney, east London, on 25 March, warned that “gun culture is becoming rampant in our community”.



My goodness! Another mass shooting!
 
Two separate shootings in a country that has done everything the anti gunners in America want.....they went the extra, extreme distance, and banned and confiscated guns...they didn't play the anti gun game here, where they pretend to want "common sense" gun control, then do everything to target law abiding gun owners while criminals and mass shooters laugh at them.....they went the Full Monty...they banned guns and confiscated them.....the only guns you can legally own in Britain are a few hunting shotguns that the wealthy "Posh" Brits use for hunting pheasants on their private land.......

And now, after banning and confiscating guns.....their gun crime rate across England and Wales is up 23%......gun crime in Yorkshire is up 30%......and in London, their capital, with police cameras watching everything and everyone....their gun crime rate is up 42%.......and now London is more violent than New York, and just yesterday it was reported that their murder number was higher than New Yorks 2 months in a row.......

They were promised lower gun crime, and less violence if they just gave up their guns....guns that the law abiding British citizens did not use to commit any crimes......

And the criminals have ignored the confiscation and ban....and now, decades after they passed the ban....their gun crime numbers are going up, their violence rate is going up, as their social welfare state is no longer able to civilize their young males, and as 3rd world males bring 3rd world violence to their streets...

Teenage girl shot dead in Tottenham, north London

A 17-year-old girl has been killed and a 16-year-old boy is in a critical condition after two separate shootings in London.

Police were called to an incident in Tottenham at 9.35pm on Monday and found Tanesha Melbourne-Blake with a gunshot wound. She was pronounced dead at the scene.

A woman who knew Tanesha said that she was “just chilling with her friends” when she was shot from a car for “no reason at all” in Chalgrove Road, a residential street near Northumberland Park station.

“The car just pulled up and just started shooting,” said the 21-year-old, who did not want to be named. She said she heard the gunshots “like fireworks” from her house.
-------

Less than an hour later, officers were alerted to another shooting about three miles away in Walthamstow, east London, where they found a 16-year-old boy with gunshot injuries and a 15-year-old boy with stab wounds.
---------

On Thursday, the family of Abraham Badru, 26, who was shot dead in Hackney, east London, on 25 March, warned that “gun culture is becoming rampant in our community”.



My goodness! Another mass shooting!

Yes maybe you far left drones should volunteer to be human shields, that will stop them.
 
You mean that they had two separate shooting incidents, and only one person shot in each? Quick, 2a, send them a load of AR's over so they can be like we are here, and get more than 10, or even 500 in one shooting.



26 Gun murders (equiv. 130) in England vs. *11,004* in US Annually
The US is downright weird compared to civilized Western Europe or Australia.

by
Juan Cole

guns_3.jpg

A gun show in Houston, Texas. (Photo: M&R Glasgow/flickr/cc)

There have been 1,516 mass shootings in 1,735 days in the United States. You’ll note you don’t hear about mass shootings in Australia, Japan or for the most part the United Kingdom, or other civilized countries whose politicians have not been bought by 10 major gun manufacturers.

The United States continues to be peculiar in handing out powerful magazine-fed firearms to almost anyone who wants one and not requiring background checks on private purchases even if these are made at gun shows or by persons with a history of mental illness. 80% of civilian-owned firearms world-wide are in the US, and only Yemen vaguely competes with us for rates of firearm ownership; Yemen is a violent mess with Shiite insurgencies, al-Qaeda taking over cities from time to time, tribal feuding, southern separatism and US drone strikes. And even it has fewer guns per person than the USA.

It has gotten to the point where the increasing epidemic of mass shootings now threatens law enforcement.

26 Gun murders (equiv. 130) in England vs. *11,004* in US Annually

Just think, if matters continue like that, our gun homocides might be equal in 3 or 4 centuries.

But anyone comparing England to all of the US when it comes to such numbers does not have a clue about math.

Good thing there is a lot of gun control in Texas as we saw with the package bombs. All those gun laws surely stopped that.
 
You mean that they had two separate shooting incidents, and only one person shot in each? Quick, 2a, send them a load of AR's over so they can be like we are here, and get more than 10, or even 500 in one shooting.



26 Gun murders (equiv. 130) in England vs. *11,004* in US Annually
The US is downright weird compared to civilized Western Europe or Australia.

by
Juan Cole

guns_3.jpg

A gun show in Houston, Texas. (Photo: M&R Glasgow/flickr/cc)

There have been 1,516 mass shootings in 1,735 days in the United States. You’ll note you don’t hear about mass shootings in Australia, Japan or for the most part the United Kingdom, or other civilized countries whose politicians have not been bought by 10 major gun manufacturers.

The United States continues to be peculiar in handing out powerful magazine-fed firearms to almost anyone who wants one and not requiring background checks on private purchases even if these are made at gun shows or by persons with a history of mental illness. 80% of civilian-owned firearms world-wide are in the US, and only Yemen vaguely competes with us for rates of firearm ownership; Yemen is a violent mess with Shiite insurgencies, al-Qaeda taking over cities from time to time, tribal feuding, southern separatism and US drone strikes. And even it has fewer guns per person than the USA.

It has gotten to the point where the increasing epidemic of mass shootings now threatens law enforcement.

26 Gun murders (equiv. 130) in England vs. *11,004* in US Annually

Just think, if matters continue like that, our gun homocides might be equal in 3 or 4 centuries.

But anyone comparing England to all of the US when it comes to such numbers does not have a clue about math.

Good thing there is a lot of gun control in Texas as we saw with the package bombs. All those gun laws surely stopped that.

26 (equiv. 130) compensates, numerically, for the difference in population.
 
US murders population 15,000 325,000,000
Britain 550 65,000,000
US rate over FIVE times that of Britain
not twice, 3, or 4 times but 5 times
 
Two separate shootings in a country that has done everything the anti gunners in America want.....they went the extra, extreme distance, and banned and confiscated guns...they didn't play the anti gun game here, where they pretend to want "common sense" gun control, then do everything to target law abiding gun owners while criminals and mass shooters laugh at them.....they went the Full Monty...they banned guns and confiscated them.....the only guns you can legally own in Britain are a few hunting shotguns that the wealthy "Posh" Brits use for hunting pheasants on their private land.......

And now, after banning and confiscating guns.....their gun crime rate across England and Wales is up 23%......gun crime in Yorkshire is up 30%......and in London, their capital, with police cameras watching everything and everyone....their gun crime rate is up 42%.......and now London is more violent than New York, and just yesterday it was reported that their murder number was higher than New Yorks 2 months in a row.......

They were promised lower gun crime, and less violence if they just gave up their guns....guns that the law abiding British citizens did not use to commit any crimes......

And the criminals have ignored the confiscation and ban....and now, decades after they passed the ban....their gun crime numbers are going up, their violence rate is going up, as their social welfare state is no longer able to civilize their young males, and as 3rd world males bring 3rd world violence to their streets...

Teenage girl shot dead in Tottenham, north London

A 17-year-old girl has been killed and a 16-year-old boy is in a critical condition after two separate shootings in London.

Police were called to an incident in Tottenham at 9.35pm on Monday and found Tanesha Melbourne-Blake with a gunshot wound. She was pronounced dead at the scene.

A woman who knew Tanesha said that she was “just chilling with her friends” when she was shot from a car for “no reason at all” in Chalgrove Road, a residential street near Northumberland Park station.

“The car just pulled up and just started shooting,” said the 21-year-old, who did not want to be named. She said she heard the gunshots “like fireworks” from her house.
-------

Less than an hour later, officers were alerted to another shooting about three miles away in Walthamstow, east London, where they found a 16-year-old boy with gunshot injuries and a 15-year-old boy with stab wounds.
---------

On Thursday, the family of Abraham Badru, 26, who was shot dead in Hackney, east London, on 25 March, warned that “gun culture is becoming rampant in our community”.



But stronger gun laws will assure that this never happens again. :biggrin:
 
US murders population 15,000 325,000,000
Britain 550 65,000,000
US rate over FIVE times that of Britain
not twice, 3, or 4 times but 5 times

So what?

Even in 1950 the US murder rate was 4 times that of the UK

We have a higher murder rate because we are completely different countries and the variables that are involved in murder are different. You'll notice I said variables plural because ony a simpleton thinks murder rates are driven by one variable (guns) alone
 
US murders population 15,000 325,000,000
Britain 550 65,000,000
US rate over FIVE times that of Britain
not twice, 3, or 4 times but 5 times
70% of all murders in this country take place is very small areas in just 5% of all the counties in the US

Those areas are urban and have a long history of both violence and poverty. Solve the problem with our cities and reduce the murder rate by up to 70% and like magic our murder rate is very close to that of the UK
 
US murders population 15,000 325,000,000
Britain 550 65,000,000
US rate over FIVE times that of Britain
not twice, 3, or 4 times but 5 times

So what?

Even in 1950 the US murder rate was 4 times that of the UK

We have a higher murder rate because we are completely different countries and the variables that are involved in murder are different. You'll notice I said variables plural because ony a simpleton thinks murder rates are driven by one variable (guns) alone
do you have some links/evidence of this?? so the people in the UK are murdering for different reasons--significantly more with regards to the reasons/etc??
 
US murders population 15,000 325,000,000
Britain 550 65,000,000
US rate over FIVE times that of Britain
not twice, 3, or 4 times but 5 times
70% of all murders in this country take place is very small areas in just 5% of all the counties in the US

Those areas are urban and have a long history of both violence and poverty. Solve the problem with our cities and reduce the murder rate by up to 70% and like magic our murder rate is very close to that of the UK

80.7% if the US population lives in metropolitan areas.
 
US murders population 15,000 325,000,000
Britain 550 65,000,000
US rate over FIVE times that of Britain
not twice, 3, or 4 times but 5 times

So what?

Even in 1950 the US murder rate was 4 times that of the UK

We have a higher murder rate because we are completely different countries and the variables that are involved in murder are different. You'll notice I said variables plural because ony a simpleton thinks murder rates are driven by one variable (guns) alone
do you have some links/evidence of this?? so the people in the UK are murdering for different reasons--significantly more with regards to the reasons/etc??
List of countries by intentional homicide rate by decade - Wikipedia

Top 30 Highest Murder Rate Cities in the U.S. - NeighborhoodScout

If you look at the second link and use the interactive maps you will find that murders are concentrated in small areas even within the same city

Murders in US very concentrated: 54% of US counties in 2014 had zero murders, 2% of counties have 51% of the murders - Crime Prevention Research Center

Our murder rate is driven by the violence in small areas of 5% of all the counties in the country

More than half of all counties have a murder rate of virtually 0
 
US murders population 15,000 325,000,000
Britain 550 65,000,000
US rate over FIVE times that of Britain
not twice, 3, or 4 times but 5 times
70% of all murders in this country take place is very small areas in just 5% of all the counties in the US

Those areas are urban and have a long history of both violence and poverty. Solve the problem with our cities and reduce the murder rate by up to 70% and like magic our murder rate is very close to that of the UK

80.7% if the US population lives in metropolitan areas.

And yet murders are concentrated in very small parts of those urban areas

For example East St Louis IL is a small part of the greater St Louis MO urban center yet the murder rate there is 1 per 1000 residents while the murder rate if the entire US is .05 per 1000

that's 20 times the national average in one neighborhood that is part of an Urban area while other areas nearby have much lower rates

This can be seen in other counties as well.

So saying that the murder rate is evenly distributed in urban areas is almost as simplistic as saying guns are the only variable in murder rates between different countries
 
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