17 states are suing Obama administration

I think it is along the lines of the illegal immigrants have rights they are not entitled to. They broke our laws to come here illegally..but they can have a drivers license, get medical care, send their kids to school, etc...but pay no taxes. Ever.
And the states suing are saying it is an extreme burden on them (the states) FINANCIALLY.
 
I wonder on what grounds are they suing?

Because we have Reagan and GHW Bush that did the same thing as Obama, through INS, without Congress's approval or vote...not only did he give them delayed deportation protection, but he also AUTHORIZED these illegals to be able to work.... 1.5 million of them.... So what is the difference...honestly, what is the difference? A republican president doing this vs a Democratic President? A white president vs a black president? WHAT IS IT that makes you think these measures are not kosher now when they passed muster with GHW Bush and Reagan?

—1990. In February, President George H.W. Bush, acting through the Immigration and Naturalization Service, established a "family fairness" in which family members living with a legalizing immigrant and who were in the U.S. before passage of the 1986 law were granted protection from deportation and authorized to seek employment. The administration estimated up to 1.5 million people would be covered by the policy. Congress in October passed a broader immigration law that made the protections permanent.
That same standard claim has been debunked dozens of times "Reagan did it too". Reagan did NOT do it too, and neither did Bush.
 
I wonder on what grounds are they suing?

Because we have Reagan and GHW Bush that did the same thing as Obama, through INS, without Congress's approval or vote...not only did he give them delayed deportation protection, but he also AUTHORIZED these illegals to be able to work.... 1.5 million of them.... So what is the difference...honestly, what is the difference? A republican president doing this vs a Democratic President? A white president vs a black president? WHAT IS IT that makes you think these measures are not kosher now when they passed muster with GHW Bush and Reagan?

—1990. In February, President George H.W. Bush, acting through the Immigration and Naturalization Service, established a "family fairness" in which family members living with a legalizing immigrant and who were in the U.S. before passage of the 1986 law were granted protection from deportation and authorized to seek employment. The administration estimated up to 1.5 million people would be covered by the policy. Congress in October passed a broader immigration law that made the protections permanent.
That same standard claim has been debunked dozens of times "Reagan did it too". Reagan did NOT do it too, and neither did Bush.
IT HAS NOT BEEN DEBUNKED, You are uninformed, they BOTH DID IT, outside of immigration reform of 1986.

timeline 2 GOP presidents acted unilaterally on immigration

—1986. Congress and Reagan enacted a sweeping overhaul that gave legal status to up to 3 million immigrants without authorization to be in the country, if they had come to the U.S. before 1982. Spouses and children who could not meet that test did not qualify, which incited protests that the new law was breaking up families.

—1987. Early efforts in Congress to amend the law to cover family members failed. Reagan's Immigration and Naturalization Service commissioner announced that minor children of parents granted amnesty by the law would get protection from deportation. Spouses and children of couples in which one parent qualified for amnesty but the other did not remained subject to deportation, leading to efforts to amend the 1986 law.

—1989. By a sweeping 81-17 vote, the Senate in July voted to prohibit deportations of family members of immigrants covered by the 1986 law. The House failed to act.

—1990. In February, President George H.W. Bush, acting through the Immigration and Naturalization Service, established a "family fairness" in which family members living with a legalizing immigrant and who were in the U.S. before passage of the 1986 law were granted protection from deportation and authorized to seek employment. The administration estimated up to 1.5 million people would be covered by the policy. Congress in October passed a broader immigration law that made the protections permanent.

READ, and INFORM yourself.
 
I wonder on what grounds are they suing?

Because we have Reagan and GHW Bush that did the same thing as Obama, through INS, without Congress's approval or vote...not only did he give them delayed deportation protection, but he also AUTHORIZED these illegals to be able to work.... 1.5 million of them.... So what is the difference...honestly, what is the difference? A republican president doing this vs a Democratic President? A white president vs a black president? WHAT IS IT that makes you think these measures are not kosher now when they passed muster with GHW Bush and Reagan?

—1990. In February, President George H.W. Bush, acting through the Immigration and Naturalization Service, established a "family fairness" in which family members living with a legalizing immigrant and who were in the U.S. before passage of the 1986 law were granted protection from deportation and authorized to seek employment. The administration estimated up to 1.5 million people would be covered by the policy. Congress in October passed a broader immigration law that made the protections permanent.
That same standard claim has been debunked dozens of times "Reagan did it too". Reagan did NOT do it too, and neither did Bush.
IT HAS NOT BEEN DEBUNKED, You are uninformed, they BOTH DID IT, outside of immigration reform of 1986.

timeline 2 GOP presidents acted unilaterally on immigration

—1986. Congress and Reagan enacted a sweeping overhaul that gave legal status to up to 3 million immigrants without authorization to be in the country, if they had come to the U.S. before 1982. Spouses and children who could not meet that test did not qualify, which incited protests that the new law was breaking up families.

—1987. Early efforts in Congress to amend the law to cover family members failed. Reagan's Immigration and Naturalization Service commissioner announced that minor children of parents granted amnesty by the law would get protection from deportation. Spouses and children of couples in which one parent qualified for amnesty but the other did not remained subject to deportation, leading to efforts to amend the 1986 law.

—1989. By a sweeping 81-17 vote, the Senate in July voted to prohibit deportations of family members of immigrants covered by the 1986 law. The House failed to act.

—1990. In February, President George H.W. Bush, acting through the Immigration and Naturalization Service, established a "family fairness" in which family members living with a legalizing immigrant and who were in the U.S. before passage of the 1986 law were granted protection from deportation and authorized to seek employment. The administration estimated up to 1.5 million people would be covered by the policy. Congress in October passed a broader immigration law that made the protections permanent.

READ, and INFORM yourself.

Reagan went through Congress why do want to continue to spread that lie? I don't know what you're talking about with Bush. But if it were TRUE then show where he was sued by Seventeen states like Obama is, if what Obama is doing is LEGAL?
 
I think it is along the lines of the illegal immigrants have rights they are not entitled to. They broke our laws to come here illegally..but they can have a drivers license, get medical care, send their kids to school, etc...but pay no taxes. Ever.
And the states suing are saying it is an extreme burden on them (the states) FINANCIALLY.
I think it is along the lines of the illegal immigrants have rights they are not entitled to. They broke our laws to come here illegally..but they can have a drivers license, get medical care, send their kids to school, etc...but pay no taxes. Ever.
And the states suing are saying it is an extreme burden on them (the states) FINANCIALLY.
But...that's simply incorrect.
Eligible immigrants will have the opportunity to request temporary relief from deportation if they come forward and pass criminal and national security background checks and pay a fee. They will also be eligible for work authorization and must start paying their fair share of taxes.
Five Things to Know About How President Obama s Executive Action Impacts Undocumented Immigrants The White House

But notably, the action will not:
<snip>
Your complete guide to Obama 8217 s immigration executive action - The Washington Post
 
I wonder on what grounds are they suing?

Because we have Reagan and GHW Bush that did the same thing as Obama, through INS, without Congress's approval or vote...not only did he give them delayed deportation protection, but he also AUTHORIZED these illegals to be able to work.... 1.5 million of them.... So what is the difference...honestly, what is the difference? A republican president doing this vs a Democratic President? A white president vs a black president? WHAT IS IT that makes you think these measures are not kosher now when they passed muster with GHW Bush and Reagan?

—1990. In February, President George H.W. Bush, acting through the Immigration and Naturalization Service, established a "family fairness" in which family members living with a legalizing immigrant and who were in the U.S. before passage of the 1986 law were granted protection from deportation and authorized to seek employment. The administration estimated up to 1.5 million people would be covered by the policy. Congress in October passed a broader immigration law that made the protections permanent.
That same standard claim has been debunked dozens of times "Reagan did it too". Reagan did NOT do it too, and neither did Bush.
The Right keeps trying. :mm:
 
Oh yeah..that too. They both went thru the legal channels. Obama is just willy nilly doing whatever he wants.
That's a no no. He can't make laws. Or change them.
 
Just watch the vid. That guy explains it better than I can.
 
I wonder on what grounds are they suing?

Because we have Reagan and GHW Bush that did the same thing as Obama, through INS, without Congress's approval or vote...not only did he give them delayed deportation protection, but he also AUTHORIZED these illegals to be able to work.... 1.5 million of them.... So what is the difference...honestly, what is the difference? A republican president doing this vs a Democratic President? A white president vs a black president? WHAT IS IT that makes you think these measures are not kosher now when they passed muster with GHW Bush and Reagan?

—1990. In February, President George H.W. Bush, acting through the Immigration and Naturalization Service, established a "family fairness" in which family members living with a legalizing immigrant and who were in the U.S. before passage of the 1986 law were granted protection from deportation and authorized to seek employment. The administration estimated up to 1.5 million people would be covered by the policy. Congress in October passed a broader immigration law that made the protections permanent.
That same standard claim has been debunked dozens of times "Reagan did it too". Reagan did NOT do it too, and neither did Bush.
IT HAS NOT BEEN DEBUNKED, You are uninformed, they BOTH DID IT, outside of immigration reform of 1986.

timeline 2 GOP presidents acted unilaterally on immigration

—1986. Congress and Reagan enacted a sweeping overhaul that gave legal status to up to 3 million immigrants without authorization to be in the country, if they had come to the U.S. before 1982. Spouses and children who could not meet that test did not qualify, which incited protests that the new law was breaking up families.

—1987. Early efforts in Congress to amend the law to cover family members failed. Reagan's Immigration and Naturalization Service commissioner announced that minor children of parents granted amnesty by the law would get protection from deportation. Spouses and children of couples in which one parent qualified for amnesty but the other did not remained subject to deportation, leading to efforts to amend the 1986 law.

—1989. By a sweeping 81-17 vote, the Senate in July voted to prohibit deportations of family members of immigrants covered by the 1986 law. The House failed to act.

—1990. In February, President George H.W. Bush, acting through the Immigration and Naturalization Service, established a "family fairness" in which family members living with a legalizing immigrant and who were in the U.S. before passage of the 1986 law were granted protection from deportation and authorized to seek employment. The administration estimated up to 1.5 million people would be covered by the policy. Congress in October passed a broader immigration law that made the protections permanent.

READ, and INFORM yourself.
The executive orders came AFTER they were approved by Congress. Obama BYPASSED Congress. BIG DIFFERENCE!
 
We need genuine immigration reform. But Congress does make the laws. This needs to go through the Congress, whether Obama likes it or not.

What happens if a Republican President does the same thing in the future. Do Dems really want to set that precedent? It is a very troubling Constitutional issue.

As George stephanolous asked obozo - What if a future president wants taxes lowered and congress won't do it so the president just announces he's gonna look the other way while people refuse to pay their capital gains taxes?

Big O had no answer.


President's swear an oath to faithfully uphold the Constitution of the United States and fully execute its laws.

Obama must not feel like he is bound by that oath. :(
 
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Isn't there like 11 MILLION illegals here right now? That is a HUGE financial problem. And like I said...they pay no taxes. They get a drivers liense. They have medical care. Their kids go to school. The taxes we pay goes to feeding them, their healthare, school lunches, etc.

Try doing that in another country and see what happens.
 
I wonder on what grounds are they suing?

Because we have Reagan and GHW Bush that did the same thing as Obama, through INS, without Congress's approval or vote...not only did he give them delayed deportation protection, but he also AUTHORIZED these illegals to be able to work.... 1.5 million of them.... So what is the difference...honestly, what is the difference? A republican president doing this vs a Democratic President? A white president vs a black president? WHAT IS IT that makes you think these measures are not kosher now when they passed muster with GHW Bush and Reagan?

—1990. In February, President George H.W. Bush, acting through the Immigration and Naturalization Service, established a "family fairness" in which family members living with a legalizing immigrant and who were in the U.S. before passage of the 1986 law were granted protection from deportation and authorized to seek employment. The administration estimated up to 1.5 million people would be covered by the policy. Congress in October passed a broader immigration law that made the protections permanent.
That same standard claim has been debunked dozens of times "Reagan did it too". Reagan did NOT do it too, and neither did Bush.
IT HAS NOT BEEN DEBUNKED, You are uninformed, they BOTH DID IT, outside of immigration reform of 1986.

timeline 2 GOP presidents acted unilaterally on immigration

—1986. Congress and Reagan enacted a sweeping overhaul that gave legal status to up to 3 million immigrants without authorization to be in the country, if they had come to the U.S. before 1982. Spouses and children who could not meet that test did not qualify, which incited protests that the new law was breaking up families.

—1987. Early efforts in Congress to amend the law to cover family members failed. Reagan's Immigration and Naturalization Service commissioner announced that minor children of parents granted amnesty by the law would get protection from deportation. Spouses and children of couples in which one parent qualified for amnesty but the other did not remained subject to deportation, leading to efforts to amend the 1986 law.

—1989. By a sweeping 81-17 vote, the Senate in July voted to prohibit deportations of family members of immigrants covered by the 1986 law. The House failed to act.

—1990. In February, President George H.W. Bush, acting through the Immigration and Naturalization Service, established a "family fairness" in which family members living with a legalizing immigrant and who were in the U.S. before passage of the 1986 law were granted protection from deportation and authorized to seek employment. The administration estimated up to 1.5 million people would be covered by the policy. Congress in October passed a broader immigration law that made the protections permanent.

READ, and INFORM yourself.

Reagan went through Congress why do want to continue to spread that lie? I don't know what you're talking about with Bush if it were TRUE then show where he was sued by Seventeen states for it, if it is on the up and up?
Stephanie, do you know how to read and comprehend what you read?

READ what I posted above...

Reagan and congress passed immigration reform IN 1986, BUT this immigration reform had some problems,,,,children of those who were given amnesty that did not qualify for amnesty themselves, were still eligible to be deported.... there was an outcry that the federal gvt was splitting up families, so Reagan issues an executive order for INS to DELAY DEPORTATION of the children OF PARENTS that were given a road to amnesty.

Then in 1990, GHW Bush issued an executive order for INS to DELAY DEPORTATION of family members of those given amnesty in 1986 that did not qualify under the 1986 amnesty bill....

AND Bush also gave them AUTHORIZATION to work here....

so please, STOP PASSING YOUR LIE AROUND....I know you believe what your beloved right wing media has told you to believe, but that's a mistake, because they have lied to you....

—1990. In February, President George H.W. Bush, acting through the Immigration and Naturalization Service, established a "family fairness" in which family members living with a legalizing immigrant and who were in the U.S. before passage of the 1986 law were granted protection from deportation and authorized to seek employment. The administration estimated up to 1.5 million people would be covered by the policy.
 
I wonder on what grounds are they suing?

Because we have Reagan and GHW Bush that did the same thing as Obama, through INS, without Congress's approval or vote...not only did he give them delayed deportation protection, but he also AUTHORIZED these illegals to be able to work.... 1.5 million of them.... So what is the difference...honestly, what is the difference? A republican president doing this vs a Democratic President? A white president vs a black president? WHAT IS IT that makes you think these measures are not kosher now when they passed muster with GHW Bush and Reagan?

—1990. In February, President George H.W. Bush, acting through the Immigration and Naturalization Service, established a "family fairness" in which family members living with a legalizing immigrant and who were in the U.S. before passage of the 1986 law were granted protection from deportation and authorized to seek employment. The administration estimated up to 1.5 million people would be covered by the policy. Congress in October passed a broader immigration law that made the protections permanent.
That same standard claim has been debunked dozens of times "Reagan did it too". Reagan did NOT do it too, and neither did Bush.
IT HAS NOT BEEN DEBUNKED, You are uninformed, they BOTH DID IT, outside of immigration reform of 1986.

timeline 2 GOP presidents acted unilaterally on immigration

—1986. Congress and Reagan enacted a sweeping overhaul that gave legal status to up to 3 million immigrants without authorization to be in the country, if they had come to the U.S. before 1982. Spouses and children who could not meet that test did not qualify, which incited protests that the new law was breaking up families.

—1987. Early efforts in Congress to amend the law to cover family members failed. Reagan's Immigration and Naturalization Service commissioner announced that minor children of parents granted amnesty by the law would get protection from deportation. Spouses and children of couples in which one parent qualified for amnesty but the other did not remained subject to deportation, leading to efforts to amend the 1986 law.

—1989. By a sweeping 81-17 vote, the Senate in July voted to prohibit deportations of family members of immigrants covered by the 1986 law. The House failed to act.

—1990. In February, President George H.W. Bush, acting through the Immigration and Naturalization Service, established a "family fairness" in which family members living with a legalizing immigrant and who were in the U.S. before passage of the 1986 law were granted protection from deportation and authorized to seek employment. The administration estimated up to 1.5 million people would be covered by the policy. Congress in October passed a broader immigration law that made the protections permanent.

READ, and INFORM yourself.

Reagan went through Congress why do want to continue to spread that lie? I don't know what you're talking about with Bush if it were TRUE then show where he was sued by Seventeen states for it, if it is on the up and up?
Stephanie, do you know how to read and comprehend what you read?

READ what I posted above...

Reagan and congress passed immigration reform IN 1986, BUT this immigration reform had some problems,,,,children of those who were given amnesty that did not qualify for amnesty themselves, were still eligible to be deported.... there was an outcry that the federal gvt was splitting up families, so Reagan issues an executive order for INS to DELAY DEPORTATION of the children OF PARENTS that were given a road to amnesty.

Then in 1990, GHW Bush issued an executive order for INS to DELAY DEPORTATION of family members of those given amnesty in 1986 that did not qualify under the 1986 amnesty bill....

AND Bush also gave them AUTHORIZATION to work here....

so please, STOP PASSING YOUR LIE AROUND....I know you believe what your beloved right wing media has told you to believe, but that's a mistake, because they have lied to you....

—1990. In February, President George H.W. Bush, acting through the Immigration and Naturalization Service, established a "family fairness" in which family members living with a legalizing immigrant and who were in the U.S. before passage of the 1986 law were granted protection from deportation and authorized to seek employment. The administration estimated up to 1.5 million people would be covered by the policy.
You're full of shit. You liberals always try to justify Obama's lawlessness by claiming Republican presidents did the same thing. They DIDN'T. Stop lying.
 
We need genuine immigration reform. But Congress does make the laws. This needs to go through the Congress, whether Obama likes it or not.

What happens if a Republican President does the same thing in the future. Do Dems really want to set that precedent? It is a very troubling Constitutional issue.

As George stephanolous asked obozo - What if a future president wants taxes lowered and congress won't do it so the president just announces he's gonna look the other way while people refuse to pay their capital gains taxes?

Big O had no answer.


President's swear an oath to faithfully uphold the Constitution of the United States and fully execute its laws.

Obama must not feel like he is bound by that oath. :(
He doesn't feel he's bound by any laws either.
 
I wonder on what grounds are they suing?

Because we have Reagan and GHW Bush that did the same thing as Obama, through INS, without Congress's approval or vote...not only did he give them delayed deportation protection, but he also AUTHORIZED these illegals to be able to work.... 1.5 million of them.... So what is the difference...honestly, what is the difference? A republican president doing this vs a Democratic President? A white president vs a black president? WHAT IS IT that makes you think these measures are not kosher now when they passed muster with GHW Bush and Reagan?

—1990. In February, President George H.W. Bush, acting through the Immigration and Naturalization Service, established a "family fairness" in which family members living with a legalizing immigrant and who were in the U.S. before passage of the 1986 law were granted protection from deportation and authorized to seek employment. The administration estimated up to 1.5 million people would be covered by the policy. Congress in October passed a broader immigration law that made the protections permanent.
That same standard claim has been debunked dozens of times "Reagan did it too". Reagan did NOT do it too, and neither did Bush.
IT HAS NOT BEEN DEBUNKED, You are uninformed, they BOTH DID IT, outside of immigration reform of 1986.

timeline 2 GOP presidents acted unilaterally on immigration

—1986. Congress and Reagan enacted a sweeping overhaul that gave legal status to up to 3 million immigrants without authorization to be in the country, if they had come to the U.S. before 1982. Spouses and children who could not meet that test did not qualify, which incited protests that the new law was breaking up families.

—1987. Early efforts in Congress to amend the law to cover family members failed. Reagan's Immigration and Naturalization Service commissioner announced that minor children of parents granted amnesty by the law would get protection from deportation. Spouses and children of couples in which one parent qualified for amnesty but the other did not remained subject to deportation, leading to efforts to amend the 1986 law.

—1989. By a sweeping 81-17 vote, the Senate in July voted to prohibit deportations of family members of immigrants covered by the 1986 law. The House failed to act.

—1990. In February, President George H.W. Bush, acting through the Immigration and Naturalization Service, established a "family fairness" in which family members living with a legalizing immigrant and who were in the U.S. before passage of the 1986 law were granted protection from deportation and authorized to seek employment. The administration estimated up to 1.5 million people would be covered by the policy. Congress in October passed a broader immigration law that made the protections permanent.

READ, and INFORM yourself.

Reagan went through Congress why do want to continue to spread that lie? I don't know what you're talking about with Bush if it were TRUE then show where he was sued by Seventeen states for it, if it is on the up and up?
Stephanie, do you know how to read and comprehend what you read?

READ what I posted above...

Reagan and congress passed immigration reform IN 1986, BUT this immigration reform had some problems,,,,children of those who were given amnesty that did not qualify for amnesty themselves, were still eligible to be deported.... there was an outcry that the federal gvt was splitting up families, so Reagan issues an executive order for INS to DELAY DEPORTATION of the children OF PARENTS that were given a road to amnesty.

Then in 1990, GHW Bush issued an executive order for INS to DELAY DEPORTATION of family members of those given amnesty in 1986 that did not qualify under the 1986 amnesty bill....

AND Bush also gave them AUTHORIZATION to work here....

so please, STOP PASSING YOUR LIE AROUND....I know you believe what your beloved right wing media has told you to believe, but that's a mistake, because they have lied to you....

—1990. In February, President George H.W. Bush, acting through the Immigration and Naturalization Service, established a "family fairness" in which family members living with a legalizing immigrant and who were in the U.S. before passage of the 1986 law were granted protection from deportation and authorized to seek employment. The administration estimated up to 1.5 million people would be covered by the policy.

Even it that were true, and it's not...it doesn't give Obama THE RIGHT to do what he is doing with OUT CONGRESS. so stop acting like you know it all and others don't know what they are talking about
 
I wonder on what grounds are they suing?

Because we have Reagan and GHW Bush that did the same thing as Obama, through INS, without Congress's approval or vote...not only did he give them delayed deportation protection, but he also AUTHORIZED these illegals to be able to work.... 1.5 million of them.... So what is the difference...honestly, what is the difference? A republican president doing this vs a Democratic President? A white president vs a black president? WHAT IS IT that makes you think these measures are not kosher now when they passed muster with GHW Bush and Reagan?

—1990. In February, President George H.W. Bush, acting through the Immigration and Naturalization Service, established a "family fairness" in which family members living with a legalizing immigrant and who were in the U.S. before passage of the 1986 law were granted protection from deportation and authorized to seek employment. The administration estimated up to 1.5 million people would be covered by the policy. Congress in October passed a broader immigration law that made the protections permanent.
That same standard claim has been debunked dozens of times "Reagan did it too". Reagan did NOT do it too, and neither did Bush.
IT HAS NOT BEEN DEBUNKED, You are uninformed, they BOTH DID IT, outside of immigration reform of 1986.

timeline 2 GOP presidents acted unilaterally on immigration

—1986. Congress and Reagan enacted a sweeping overhaul that gave legal status to up to 3 million immigrants without authorization to be in the country, if they had come to the U.S. before 1982. Spouses and children who could not meet that test did not qualify, which incited protests that the new law was breaking up families.

—1987. Early efforts in Congress to amend the law to cover family members failed. Reagan's Immigration and Naturalization Service commissioner announced that minor children of parents granted amnesty by the law would get protection from deportation. Spouses and children of couples in which one parent qualified for amnesty but the other did not remained subject to deportation, leading to efforts to amend the 1986 law.

—1989. By a sweeping 81-17 vote, the Senate in July voted to prohibit deportations of family members of immigrants covered by the 1986 law. The House failed to act.

—1990. In February, President George H.W. Bush, acting through the Immigration and Naturalization Service, established a "family fairness" in which family members living with a legalizing immigrant and who were in the U.S. before passage of the 1986 law were granted protection from deportation and authorized to seek employment. The administration estimated up to 1.5 million people would be covered by the policy. Congress in October passed a broader immigration law that made the protections permanent.

READ, and INFORM yourself.
The executive orders came AFTER they were approved by Congress. Obama BYPASSED Congress. BIG DIFFERENCE!
NO, there is no difference...

These people were NOT GIVEN AMNESTY through the immigration reform bill of 1986....

CONGRESS DID NOT GIVE THESE PEOPLE AMNESTY.

but Reagan AND Bush DID GIVE THEM Delayed deportation protection through an executive order to INS, directing INS NOT to FOLLOW the LAW, and to NOT deport these people that did not qualify for the Amnesty that congress gave.....AND Bush also gave these illegals AUTHORIZATION to work, WITHOUT CONGRESS.....

9 months later, congress acted on immigration reform again, in October of 1990, and included those protections from deportation that Bush issued to INS via executive order.

NO DIFFERENCE what so ever, than what Obama has done with delayed deportation
 
I wonder on what grounds are they suing?

Because we have Reagan and GHW Bush that did the same thing as Obama, through INS, without Congress's approval or vote...not only did he give them delayed deportation protection, but he also AUTHORIZED these illegals to be able to work.... 1.5 million of them.... So what is the difference...honestly, what is the difference? A republican president doing this vs a Democratic President? A white president vs a black president? WHAT IS IT that makes you think these measures are not kosher now when they passed muster with GHW Bush and Reagan?

—1990. In February, President George H.W. Bush, acting through the Immigration and Naturalization Service, established a "family fairness" in which family members living with a legalizing immigrant and who were in the U.S. before passage of the 1986 law were granted protection from deportation and authorized to seek employment. The administration estimated up to 1.5 million people would be covered by the policy. Congress in October passed a broader immigration law that made the protections permanent.
Wrong. Obutthurt is changing the law. Libtards are so stupid.
 
I wonder on what grounds are they suing?

Because we have Reagan and GHW Bush that did the same thing as Obama, through INS, without Congress's approval or vote...not only did he give them delayed deportation protection, but he also AUTHORIZED these illegals to be able to work.... 1.5 million of them.... So what is the difference...honestly, what is the difference? A republican president doing this vs a Democratic President? A white president vs a black president? WHAT IS IT that makes you think these measures are not kosher now when they passed muster with GHW Bush and Reagan?

—1990. In February, President George H.W. Bush, acting through the Immigration and Naturalization Service, established a "family fairness" in which family members living with a legalizing immigrant and who were in the U.S. before passage of the 1986 law were granted protection from deportation and authorized to seek employment. The administration estimated up to 1.5 million people would be covered by the policy. Congress in October passed a broader immigration law that made the protections permanent.
That same standard claim has been debunked dozens of times "Reagan did it too". Reagan did NOT do it too, and neither did Bush.
IT HAS NOT BEEN DEBUNKED, You are uninformed, they BOTH DID IT, outside of immigration reform of 1986.

timeline 2 GOP presidents acted unilaterally on immigration

—1986. Congress and Reagan enacted a sweeping overhaul that gave legal status to up to 3 million immigrants without authorization to be in the country, if they had come to the U.S. before 1982. Spouses and children who could not meet that test did not qualify, which incited protests that the new law was breaking up families.

—1987. Early efforts in Congress to amend the law to cover family members failed. Reagan's Immigration and Naturalization Service commissioner announced that minor children of parents granted amnesty by the law would get protection from deportation. Spouses and children of couples in which one parent qualified for amnesty but the other did not remained subject to deportation, leading to efforts to amend the 1986 law.

—1989. By a sweeping 81-17 vote, the Senate in July voted to prohibit deportations of family members of immigrants covered by the 1986 law. The House failed to act.

—1990. In February, President George H.W. Bush, acting through the Immigration and Naturalization Service, established a "family fairness" in which family members living with a legalizing immigrant and who were in the U.S. before passage of the 1986 law were granted protection from deportation and authorized to seek employment. The administration estimated up to 1.5 million people would be covered by the policy. Congress in October passed a broader immigration law that made the protections permanent.

READ, and INFORM yourself.
The executive orders came AFTER they were approved by Congress. Obama BYPASSED Congress. BIG DIFFERENCE!
NO, there is no difference...

These people were NOT GIVEN AMNESTY through the immigration reform bill of 1986....

CONGRESS DID NOT GIVE THESE PEOPLE AMNESTY.

but Reagan AND Bush DID GIVE THEM Delayed deportation protection through an executive order to INS, directing INS NOT to FOLLOW the LAW, and to NOT deport these people that did not qualify for the Amnesty that congress gave.....AND Bush also gave these illegals AUTHORIZATION to work, WITHOUT CONGRESS.....

9 months later, congress acted on immigration reform again, in October of 1990, and included those protections from deportation that Bush issued to INS via executive order.

NO DIFFERENCE what so ever, than what Obama has done with delayed deportation
You brainless idiot! The difference is that Reagan had the approval of Congress. Get that through your thick, f-ing skull!
 
Isn't there like 11 MILLION illegals here right now? That is a HUGE financial problem. And like I said...they pay no taxes. They get a drivers liense. They have medical care. Their kids go to school. The taxes we pay goes to feeding them, their healthare, school lunches, etc.

Try doing that in another country and see what happens.
That's the great thing about Obama's plan.
To get temporary relief from deportation (for that's what it is...not amnesty) they will have to pay their taxes...which is surely an improvement on the current situation.
 

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