15 year later: Obamacare

Only the free market has a chance to bring down health insurance costs. And by free - I mean, the freedom not to buy these ridiculously priced premiums. Health Insurance should be like anything else (let's take the cost of beef as an example). Once beef gets too costly, you have the freedom not to buy the beef.
 
Only the free market has a chance to bring down health insurance costs. And by free - I mean, the freedom not to buy these ridiculously priced premiums. Health Insurance should be like anything else (let's take the cost of beef as an example). Once beef gets too costly, you have the freedom not to buy the beef.

Free markets only work when you have the option to not purchase something.
 
ACA marketplace premiums were flat the entire time the enhanced subsidies were in effect. They're only jumping now that the GOP has taken control and is ending them.

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Overall ACA has been far more expensive than the private sector ever was. Government is always more expensive. Why? There is no incentive to be careful with somebody else's money.

Leftwingers should be required to listen to lectures by the legendary economist Milton Friedman.
 
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Free markets only work when you have the option to not purchase something.
You do have the option to not buy health insurance. Billions of people worldwide don't have it.

Same scenario as with high priced colleges/universities. When the government guarantees the loans, guess what happens to the costs? That's right junior! They go up by double digit percentages every year. Stop signing up for these loans, stop going to overpriced colleges (opt for community college instead) - and you'll be amazed what happens over time to costs.
 
You do have the option to not buy health insurance. Billions of people worldwide don't have it.

Same scenario as with high priced colleges/universities. When the government guarantees the loans, guess what happens to the costs? That's right junior! They go up by double digit percentages every year. Stop signing up for these loans, stop going to overpriced colleges (opt for community college instead) - and you'll be amazed what happens over time to costs.

So the answer is to be more third world.......sheesh.
 
Overall ACA has been far more expensive than the private sector ever was. Government is always more expensive. Why? It's nobody's money. Nobody is careful with it.
There is a role for government in healthcare, if politicians could ever be shown the light. Have it cover all diagnostic and preventative care, which frees up citizens to then buy cheaper catastrophic care plans to cover the big stuff. The diagnostic is generally cheaper, so the bill to the taxpayer would not be so big.
 
Overall ACA has been far more expensive than the private sector ever was. Government is always more expensive. Why? It's nobody's money. Nobody is careful with it.

Leftwingers should be required to listen to lectures by the legendary economist Milton Friedman.

Other first world countries have universal coverage that is far more affordable than ours.
 
ACA marketplace premiums were flat the entire time the enhanced subsidies were in effect. They're only jumping now that the GOP has taken control and is ending them.

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You do realize that what you are showing is is because subsidies were in place. Which in affect caused the government to pick up the tab of the increasing healthcare. Without the government picking up the tab of course healthcare will go up.
Look at it this way. If a renter says they will pay you $800.00 a month and you have a $1000.00 mortgage. You are only paying $100.00 a month on that mortgage. Now if the renter stops paying, the amount you are paying has now increased to $1000.00 dollars. The amount owed each month is still flat nothing changed. Only the amount that you recieved in help from your renter changed.
 
The private sector with a gun to its head.

Turns out most Americans didn't think insurers should be able to punish people for getting sick. Which is why the GOP's plans to let them do that again has been an uphill slog for the past decade.
 
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This is EXACTLY what every knowledgeable observer knew when the ACA was thrust down America's throat by Democrats (never a single Republican vote). It told health insurers:
  • You cannot turn anyone down because of a pre-existing injury or medical condition,
  • You cannot charge a higher premium to anyone with a pre-existing condition,
  • You must group those people in with everyone else when calculating premiums, and
  • We will not place any restrictions on premiums, so you - medical insurers - don't lose out.
OF COURSE, premiums would skyrocket, as would the profits of medical insurers. This is like asking what will happen if I drop a rock off the top of a building. Surprise! It falls to the ground!

The current ACA subsidies were "temporary" during Covid, but more importantly from a political standpoint, they were intended to conceal from the public how badly ACA had failed to control health insurance premiums as promised. THIS is why Schumer frantically demanded that the subsidies last AT LEAST UNTIL NOVEMBER 2026!

Guess what happens in November 2026. Mid-terms.

The only solution is to create an unconstitutional government program that allows insurers to separate out the aforementioned unfortunates, allows insurers to create logical groupings of insured persons and charge them appropriate rates, and "backstops" the insurers directly for the excess costs of insuring the people with pre-existing conditions.

Also, it would be cool to put some constraints on profiteering by the health insurers, allow interstate competition among insurers, and tackle tort reform

This is all unconstitutional, of course. Congress has no "power" to get into the health insurance business, but that train left the station a long time ago. But it would be a better unconstitutional solution than the current unconstitutional one.
Actually costs went up when the mandate to carry insurance or face a penalty at tax time was done away with. Because even though it did not work as intended, the plan was hoping to spread the costs out to the health and help cover the unhealthy.
 
You do realize that what you are showing is is because subsidies were in place. Which in affect caused the government to pick up the tab of the increasing healthcare. Without the government picking up the tab of course healthcare will go up.

There was no "increasing health care," those are the full premium amounts, pre-subsidy.

But yes, enhancing the subsidies is the reason premiums didn't grow, as it turns out that pulling in more shoppers, improving the risk profile of the pool, and drawing in more competing insurers is pretty effective at holding down premium growth.
 
ACA marketplace premiums were flat the entire time the enhanced subsidies were in effect. They're only jumping now that the GOP has taken control and is ending them.

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Your graph starts going up 10 months before the Republican budget went into effect, moron.
 
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