1000 mile range, 5 minute charge

[Old Rocks]

Using fossil fuel generated electricity. It's not going away.

Well, yes, fossil fuel generation is going away. Not because of politics but because of economics. Wind and solar are the least costly forms of generation at present. And as the price of storage goes down with new technology, renewables will become even more desirable. And there is a new renewable that may prove to be economical, that is deep well geothermal. Some nations are experimenting with combining offshore wind with wave generation.

 

[Old Rocks]

How old do you claim to be now? You lie so much, and have so many socks I lose count.

That being said, ok, where is the new battery tech you've been screeching about for over a decade?

Your links go to the same old battery tech being used.

Still posting stupidity, I see. Born in 1943. So I get a year older every year. Perhaps you have trouble counting your years, I do not. And, no, I do not post under any other name. It is new tech when you take what previously was only potential and make it reality. That requires new technology and materials. However, when your thought processes have not advanced since the 1950's, I guess it is hard for you to comprehend new technology.

 

[westwall]

Still posting stupidity, I see. Born in 1943. So I get a year older every year. Perhaps you have trouble counting your years, I do not. And, no, I do not post under any other name. It is new tech when you take what previously was only potential and make it reality. That requires new technology and materials. However, when your thought processes have not advanced since the 1950's, I guess it is hard for you to comprehend new technology.

Oh, you certainly do have socks. And you lie more than Trump.

But I see you are still unable to post a link to a single one of your super dooper new battery techs actually in use.

No surprise there, you're all hat, no cattle.

 

[Old Rocks]

Here in Illinois, that means mostly coal and nuclear.
It's enough to make a green idiot stroke out, eh?

Looks that is rapidly changing. LOL

"As of 2023, Illinois generates 54.89% of electricity from nuclear power, 31.58% from fossil fuels (comprising of coal, natural gas, petroleum, and other gases), and 13.53% from renewables (comprising of wind, solar, hydropower, and biomass). As far as renewable resources go, wind is leading as the state’s primary renewable energy source. In Illinois, a significant portion of the electricity mix is transitioning towards renewable sources. In 1990, renewable energy accounted for only 0.23% of Illinois' total in-state electricity generation. In 2023, that number has increased to 13.53%. With tens of thousands of new solar projects coming online, solar generation is poised to increase to help meet consumer interests and demand as well as state climate goals."

 

[westwall]

Looks that is rapidly changing. LOL

"As of 2023, Illinois generates 54.89% of electricity from nuclear power, 31.58% from fossil fuels (comprising of coal, natural gas, petroleum, and other gases), and 13.53% from renewables (comprising of wind, solar, hydropower, and biomass). As far as renewable resources go, wind is leading as the state’s primary renewable energy source. In Illinois, a significant portion of the electricity mix is transitioning towards renewable sources. In 1990, renewable energy accounted for only 0.23% of Illinois' total in-state electricity generation. In 2023, that number has increased to 13.53%. With tens of thousands of new solar projects coming online, solar generation is poised to increase to help meet consumer interests and demand as well as state climate goals."

"Renewable's" that require grid backup...I think you meant to say.

So, as usual, you're full of crapola.

 

[Old Rocks]

Oh, you certainly do have socks. And you lie more than Trump.

But I see you are still unable to post a link to a single one of your super dooper new battery techs actually in use.

No surprise there, you're all hat, no cattle.

Already did, liar. ESS is selling units as we speak. Lithium was new and not very good tech only 25 years ago. LFP is even more recent. The huge Form iron-air battery being built in Maine is new tech. And the Aluminum batteries that will be out soon are new tech. Just because you are afraid of change does not mean the rest of us are. The use of lithium ion for grids was only a pipe dream a few years ago, and then Tesla's Hornsdale project showed how that technology could stabilize grids. Soon we will have EV's in aviation, and you can scream about how it is not working until it becomes very obvious that it is working, just as you did with the Prius and Tesla cars.

 

[Old Rocks]

"Renewable's" that require grid backup...I think you meant to say.

So, as usual, you're full of crapola.

Damn, still intent on proving your ignorance and stupidity. LOL Storage is backup, whether battery, pumped hydro, or the myrid of other methods of storing energy. In fact, as the prices are rapidly coming down for the batteries, more and more utilities are buying battery storage for the dual purpose of grid stabilization and rapid, milli-second, response.
"In South Australia, AEMO acknowledged that the Tesla big battery played a key role in keeping the lights on and ensuring no generators were tripped and no load lost by sudden swings in frequency.
There is also no doubt that the presence of the Tesla big battery has slashed prices, particularly in the FCAS market where the local gas operators had a cosy little cartel running.


Various private estimates have suggested that the big battery has slashed prices in key markets, and AEMO has acknowledged this and provided estimates of the battery’s own earnings."

Tesla big battery performance proves its worth and defies skeptics

Ten months on from its installation, the Tesla big battery has emphatically proven its worth – faster, quicker, more accurate, more reliable and more

www.solarchoice.net.au

 

[Sunsettommy]

Damn, still intent on proving your ignorance and stupidity. LOL Storage is backup, whether battery, pumped hydro, or the myrid of other methods of storing energy. In fact, as the prices are rapidly coming down for the batteries, more and more utilities are buying battery storage for the dual purpose of grid stabilization and rapid, milli-second, response.
"In South Australia, AEMO acknowledged that the Tesla big battery played a key role in keeping the lights on and ensuring no generators were tripped and no load lost by sudden swings in frequency.
There is also no doubt that the presence of the Tesla big battery has slashed prices, particularly in the FCAS market where the local gas operators had a cosy little cartel running.


Various private estimates have suggested that the big battery has slashed prices in key markets, and AEMO has acknowledged this and provided estimates of the battery’s own earnings."

Tesla big battery performance proves its worth and defies skeptics

Ten months on from its installation, the Tesla big battery has emphatically proven its worth – faster, quicker, more accurate, more reliable and more

www.solarchoice.net.au

Still not found on their own website and still not being sold either.

You keep posting second hand sources while parent company doesn't publish anything about it.

You still haven't answered my question about whether Telsa and Toyota is making official announcements on it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Looks that is rapidly changing. LOL

"As of 2023, Illinois generates 54.89% of electricity from nuclear power, 31.58% from fossil fuels (comprising of coal, natural gas, petroleum, and other gases), and 13.53% from renewables (comprising of wind, solar, hydropower, and biomass). As far as renewable resources go, wind is leading as the state’s primary renewable energy source. In Illinois, a significant portion of the electricity mix is transitioning towards renewable sources. In 1990, renewable energy accounted for only 0.23% of Illinois' total in-state electricity generation. In 2023, that number has increased to 13.53%. With tens of thousands of new solar projects coming online, solar generation is poised to increase to help meet consumer interests and demand as well as state climate goals."

Less reliable, more expensive "green energy" does work better when there is plenty
of cheap, reliable baseline power, like coal, natural gas and nuclear.

 

[Woodznutz]

Well, yes, fossil fuel generation is going away. Not because of politics but because of economics. Wind and solar are the least costly forms of generation at present. And as the price of storage goes down with new technology, renewables will become even more desirable. And there is a new renewable that may prove to be economical, that is deep well geothermal. Some nations are experimenting with combining offshore wind with wave generation.

I'm all for geothermal. Lots of heat down there.