3000 miles on a single charge

[JohnDB]

If they can put this into production, it will end range anxiety, as well as ending ICE cars and opening the door for electrical aviation., I imagine they are scrambling to bring this to production as it will put whomever first put's it into EV's into the drivers seat. You can put a battery a third the size of the present batteries into and EV and still have a thousand miles of range. So you have a much lighter EV with far more range than the present EV's. Just one of the many battery innovations coming out of labs at present.
"Researchers at Pohang University of Science & Technology (POSTECH) have introduced a revolutionary technique that can amplify the energy storage capacity of batteries by an astonishing tenfold. This leap forward not only propels battery technology to new heights but also has the potential to reshape the entire landscape of electric vehicles."

MSN

No it wont....
The batteries will explode, start fires, all while having excessive heat. Also using more Rare Earth Elements that are horrendously expensive and damaging to the environment to mine.

Another wild goose chase.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Exactly. But those four recovered wigijoules contribute to the overall efficiency of the system. You get nothing in return for slowing with gas or diesel except worn brakes.

True, but that's why hybrids can be interesting. They do allow for the recovery of deceleration energy.

But they never made sense to me. You STILL have an IC Engine to be maintained in addition to the new electrical drive.

One of the "pros" of an EV is reduced TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) because of (a) electricity is cheaper than gas, and (b) not having to maintain an IC Engine. Hybrids provide "better" fuel efficiency, but now you have an engine to maintain.

Don't get me wrong. Some people are anti-EV, others think everything should be EV. I shrug and say that they have their place. They can be a great commuter car or errand car.

WW

 

[Old Rocks]

True, but that's why hybrids can be interesting. They do allow for the recovery of deceleration energy.

But they never made sense to me. You STILL have an IC Engine to be maintained in addition to the new electrical drive.

One of the "pros" of an EV is reduced TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) because of (a) electricity is cheaper than gas, and (b) not having to maintain an IC Engine. Hybrids provide "better" fuel efficiency, but now you have an engine to maintain.

Don't get me wrong. Some people are anti-EV, others think everything should be EV. I shrug and say that they have their place. They can be a great commuter car or errand car.

WW

If they can get 500 Wt per Kg in the EV's by next year, and the much higher density batteries by 2030, then EV's will be able to compete in all niches. Combine with rooftop solar and battery, connected to the grid, and the cost of fuel will be even better. I really like the idea of being able to be a producer as well as a consumer.

 

[Dr.Destructo]

Totally agree. However, for aviation and heavy equipment, this battery would be a game changer.

I'd NEVER set foot on a battery powered airplane.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The grid isn’t built for it, Biden spent $1billion for each new charging station; AI needs the power, just go hybrid

My work here is done

 

[ding]

No such thing as a free lunch.

 

[Sunsettommy]

All they have to do is develop a high charging alternator they can put in EVs that will keep the battery they have in it, self sustaining and charged. No need for "bigger" batteries.

That already exist, they are HYBRID cars which is where we should have been doing all along.

 

[Sunsettommy]

True, but that's why hybrids can be interesting. They do allow for the recovery of deceleration energy.

But they never made sense to me. You STILL have an IC Engine to be maintained in addition to the new electrical drive.

One of the "pros" of an EV is reduced TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) because of (a) electricity is cheaper than gas, and (b) not having to maintain an IC Engine. Hybrids provide "better" fuel efficiency, but now you have an engine to maintain.

Don't get me wrong. Some people are anti-EV, others think everything should be EV. I shrug and say that they have their place. They can be a great commuter car or errand car.

WW

I don't have a problem with having EV's but I resent the government using bogus claims to FORCE them on us and eliminate ICE cars to force compliance, which is now in the early stage of a backfire of government overreach, HYBRID cars was the obvious steppingstone from ICE to EV's over decades time.

 

[Mac-7]

Many are not being subsidized at present and are still selling. And if this tech is mass produced, there will zero need for subsidies, as the vehicles will be less costly than equivalent ICE vehicles, last longer, and cost less to drive and maintain.

Greenies are so desperate to remove gas cars from the roads that you have to bully the public with bans against buying or driving anything other than an EV

California is one example of that

And its even worse in Europe

 

[leftwinger]

Totally agree. However, for aviation and heavy equipment, this battery would be a game changer.

Unproven. At 2900 miles we get range anxiety. If it takes a replacement at a rare shop? A special charger? Does not last many recharges? Only good for 3000 once, degrades 25% per charge?

I know where my gas stations are. 5 min fillup, 400 miles. Why do I want to screw aroud paying 2X 3X more?

 

[leftwinger]

The present motors in most EV's, even the electric bike I have, charge when slowing down. Regenerative braking is the standard with most EV's.

Rumor is they burn up sitting idle. They burn up transport ships. Why do I need to fool with EV? What’s in it for me?

 

[ding]

3000 miles on a single charge? Want to bet on that?

 

[ding]

If they can put this into production, it will end range anxiety, as well as ending ICE cars and opening the door for electrical aviation., I imagine they are scrambling to bring this to production as it will put whomever first put's it into EV's into the drivers seat. You can put a battery a third the size of the present batteries into and EV and still have a thousand miles of range. So you have a much lighter EV with far more range than the present EV's. Just one of the many battery innovations coming out of labs at present.
"Researchers at Pohang University of Science & Technology (POSTECH) have introduced a revolutionary technique that can amplify the energy storage capacity of batteries by an astonishing tenfold. This leap forward not only propels battery technology to new heights but also has the potential to reshape the entire landscape of electric vehicles."

MSN

Can you walk me through how this so called "amplification" doesn't violate the law of conservation?

Batteries store more energy than is typically usable. The usable capacity is usually a percentage of the total, typically between 85% and 95% for most modern battery types like lithium-ion and sodium-ion, according to Money Saving Expert and Statista. This means that a portion of the stored energy is not available for use, often due to factors like voltage drop or limitations in the battery management system.

So how can they get 5% to 15% more out of that battery, when they can already get 85% to 95% out of it?

I'm sure elektra would be interested in hearing about this because he believes solar panels can violate the law of conservation too.

 

[MarathonMike]

If they can put this into production, it will end range anxiety, as well as ending ICE cars and opening the door for electrical aviation., I imagine they are scrambling to bring this to production as it will put whomever first put's it into EV's into the drivers seat. You can put a battery a third the size of the present batteries into and EV and still have a thousand miles of range. So you have a much lighter EV with far more range than the present EV's. Just one of the many battery innovations coming out of labs at present.
"Researchers at Pohang University of Science & Technology (POSTECH) have introduced a revolutionary technique that can amplify the energy storage capacity of batteries by an astonishing tenfold. This leap forward not only propels battery technology to new heights but also has the potential to reshape the entire landscape of electric vehicles."

MSN

A 10 fold increase in storage capacity? I'll wait for an independently verified demonstration of the 3000 mile EV.

 

[ReinyDays]

True, but that's why hybrids can be interesting. They do allow for the recovery of deceleration energy.

But they never made sense to me. You STILL have an IC Engine to be maintained in addition to the new electrical drive.

One of the "pros" of an EV is reduced TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) because of (a) electricity is cheaper than gas, and (b) not having to maintain an IC Engine. Hybrids provide "better" fuel efficiency, but now you have an engine to maintain.

Don't get me wrong. Some people are anti-EV, others think everything should be EV. I shrug and say that they have their place. They can be a great commuter car or errand car.

WW

Sound logic from beginning to end ... EVs have a place ... I think you broach a subject most piston heads forget is that some electric motors have very few moving parts ... I have a Skil 77 power saw I bought used in 1993, a professional carpenter is using that thing everyday all day long ... here in 2025 it still runs as good as she did fresh out of the box ...

No maintenance of any kind ... just new blades ... that electric motor gave me over 30 years of trouble-free service ... I'm on my fifth piston-engined vehicle ...