10.9 million people would lose health insurance under Trump's tax cut bill, CBO projects

[MisterBeale]

You mean this was bad?

AI Overview

Approximately 44 million Americans were enrolled in health coverage through the Affordable Care Act (ACA) in 2024 through the ACA marketplaces and the Medicaid expansion, according to a KFF analysis. This represents about one in six people under the age of 65. Over the past decade, nearly 50 million Americans have had coverage at some point through the ACA marketplaces.

Oh, and when you say "the entire society saddled with ACA", do you mean that if you had your own medical coverage, you had to get rid of it and get ACA?

There you go!

You answered your own damn question. They will be covered, one way or the other, by the ACA.

If they are able to work? They will have to in order to be eligible.

If they don't? meh, you are right, lots of folks could lose their insurance, but good luck convincing real Americans to care.

 

[Independent thinker]

This is what Trump and the extreme right are saying:

Republicans are advocating for work requirements for Medicaid recipients, arguing that some individuals on the program could be working but are not, and that this policy encourages personal responsibility and reduces government spending. They believe that requiring able-bodied adults to work or participate in work-related activities, such as job training or community service, will incentivize more people to enter the workforce and reduce the number of people relying on Medicaid.

Here are the real facts:

Many people working full-time jobs still struggle financially and need help to survive, according to recent reports.

• Nearly 40 million families, or 29% of the population, are considered "ALICE" (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed), meaning they earn above the poverty line but still struggle to afford basic necessities.
• 73% of workers report struggling to afford anything beyond basic expenses, essentially living paycheck to paycheck.
• 40% of workers have even missed work because of financial stress.

This highlights a significant gap between the ability of many full-time jobs to provide a living wage and the increasing cost of living, leaving many individuals and families in precarious financial situations.

This fact goes to prove that Medicaid does more good than not, and that hurting these WORKING families (to get rid of the ones that do nothing and scam Medicaid) will do more damage to our nation than help it. When 73% of WORKING Americans struggle, why would a president want to cause them more pain in order to force those that are not working, to find a job?

You just posted to me that you are non-political. Were you lying?

 

[Luckyone]

Your post is about the struggle of people who are working. If they are working at least 20 hours per week, and are not illegal aliens, they will continue to get Medicaid.

It will continue to do the good, but there will be less of the "not."

Fewer illegals fraudulently robbing the funds needed by the Americans you mention, and fewer Americans feeling trapped in unemployment because they have forgotten how to seek and keep a job.

Facts are:


AI Overview


Recent legislation, often referred to as "Trump's big beautiful bill," includes provisions that are projected to cause a significant number of Americans to lose their Medicaid coverage
. While the precise percentage of working Americans specifically who will lose coverage due to the new work requirements is not available, here's a breakdown of the overall impact and related information:

• Overall Coverage Loss:
  • The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates that roughly 11.8 million people could lose Medicaid coverage over the next decade due to the bill's changes to the program, according to PBS.
  • Another estimate suggests the number could be as high as 17 million due to additional policy changes, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (CBPP).
• Work Requirements:
  • A key provision of the bill imposes a work requirement for certain Medicaid beneficiaries aged 19 to 64.
  • This requirement mandates at least 80 hours per month of "community engagement," which includes employment, volunteer activities, or education, to maintain eligibility.
  • Exemptions are in place for parents/caretakers of children 13 and younger, disabled veterans, and those considered "medically frail," which includes individuals with disabilities, substance use disorder, or serious medical conditions.
  • Despite the work requirement, many Medicaid recipients are already working, attending school, or have disabilities or caregiving responsibilities that would likely exempt them from this requirement, according to AP News.
  • One source states that only about 8% of Medicaid enrollees report not working or being unable to find work.
• Impact on Medicaid Program:
  • The bill is projected to cut over $1 trillion in federal spending from Medicaid over the next decade.
  • This could lead to hospitals facing reduced payments and higher costs, potentially jeopardizing services or even leading to closures, particularly in rural areas, according to The Wall Street Journal.

In essence, while millions are projected to lose coverage due to the bill, the exact number of working Americans who will be affected by the work requirement specifically is not definitively known at this time. However, a significant portion of Medicaid recipients already engage in work or activities that might qualify for an exemption.

 

[Oddball]

You just posted to me that you are non-political. Were you lying?

The Wanker has always been a compulsive liar.

 

[Luckyone]

You just posted to me that you are non-political. Were you lying?

There are quite a few of our friends that depend on Medicaid. They will be affected with this Bill. Why would I not post things about how TRUMP'S big beautiful bill will affect them?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Facts are:


AI Overview


Recent legislation, often referred to as "Trump's big beautiful bill," includes provisions that are projected to cause a significant number of Americans to lose their Medicaid coverage
. While the precise percentage of working Americans specifically who will lose coverage due to the new work requirements is not available, here's a breakdown of the overall impact and related information:

• Overall Coverage Loss:
  • The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates that roughly 11.8 million people could lose Medicaid coverage over the next decade due to the bill's changes to the program, according to PBS.
  • Another estimate suggests the number could be as high as 17 million due to additional policy changes, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (CBPP).
• Work Requirements:
  • A key provision of the bill imposes a work requirement for certain Medicaid beneficiaries aged 19 to 64.
  • This requirement mandates at least 80 hours per month of "community engagement," which includes employment, volunteer activities, or education, to maintain eligibility.
  • Exemptions are in place for parents/caretakers of children 13 and younger, disabled veterans, and those considered "medically frail," which includes individuals with disabilities, substance use disorder, or serious medical conditions.
  • Despite the work requirement, many Medicaid recipients are already working, attending school, or have disabilities or caregiving responsibilities that would likely exempt them from this requirement, according to AP News.
  • One source states that only about 8% of Medicaid enrollees report not working or being unable to find work.
• Impact on Medicaid Program:
  • The bill is projected to cut over $1 trillion in federal spending from Medicaid over the next decade.
  • This could lead to hospitals facing reduced payments and higher costs, potentially jeopardizing services or even leading to closures, particularly in rural areas, according to The Wall Street Journal.

In essence, while millions are projected to lose coverage due to the bill, the exact number of working Americans who will be affected by the work requirement specifically is not definitively known at this time. However, a significant portion of Medicaid recipients already engage in work or activities that might qualify for an exemption.

Those are not "facts."

AI responses like that are only reflections of how much anti-Trump propaganda is out on the web.

Tell me in your own words why you think it is bad to require able-bodied people getting the government charity of Medicaid to work a mere 20 hours per week.

 

[Independent thinker]

There are quite a few of our friends that depend on Medicaid. They will be affected with this Bill. Why would I not post things about how TRUMP'S big beautiful bill will affect them?

The only ones being affected by Medicaid cuts are able bodied people who refuse to work and illegals. Which of those are you friends?

 

[Luckyone]

The only ones being affected by Medicaid cuts are able bodied people who refuse to work and illegals. Which of those are you friends?

No you are wrong. Read the facts that I put up on post #16

 

[Papageorgio]

This is what Trump and the extreme right are saying:

Republicans are advocating for work requirements for Medicaid recipients, arguing that some individuals on the program could be working but are not, and that this policy encourages personal responsibility and reduces government spending. They believe that requiring able-bodied adults to work or participate in work-related activities, such as job training or community service, will incentivize more people to enter the workforce and reduce the number of people relying on Medicaid.

Here are the real facts:

Many people working full-time jobs still struggle financially and need help to survive, according to recent reports.

• Nearly 40 million families, or 29% of the population, are considered "ALICE" (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed), meaning they earn above the poverty line but still struggle to afford basic necessities.
• 73% of workers report struggling to afford anything beyond basic expenses, essentially living paycheck to paycheck.
• 40% of workers have even missed work because of financial stress.

This highlights a significant gap between the ability of many full-time jobs to provide a living wage and the increasing cost of living, leaving many individuals and families in precarious financial situations.

This fact goes to prove that Medicaid does more good than not, and that hurting these WORKING families (to get rid of the ones that do nothing and scam Medicaid) will do more damage to our nation than help it. When 73% of WORKING Americans struggle, why would a president want to cause them more pain in order to force those that are not working, to find a job?

Who is losing Medicaid? From what I am reading, those that are unable to work will keep Medicaid, single people with dependents under the age of 14 will not lose Medicaid. If you are able to work, you need to put in 80 hours of volunteer work, get a job, or enroll in education classes will keep their Medicaid, so who will lose their Medicaid?

 

[Luckyone]

Who is losing Medicaid? From what I am reading, those that are unable to work will keep Medicaid, single people with dependents under the age of 14 will not lose Medicaid. If you are able to work, you need to put in 80 hours of volunteer work, get a job, or enroll in education classes will keep their Medicaid, so who will lose their Medicaid?

Read post #16

 

[Papageorgio]

Read post #16

Right here it say most will be exempt from the new working provisions because they already doing what they are supposed to.

• Despite the work requirement, many Medicaid recipients are already working, attending school, or have disabilities or caregiving responsibilities that would likely exempt them from this requirement, according to AP News.

It will effect approximately 8% who are not fulfilling their part however instead of working, they are allowed to volunteer or go get schooling.

 

[Donald H]

Wait a sec....Wasn't Ovomitcare supposed to be the be-all-end-all fix for this?

When Trump reveals his plan we will know for sure if the Ovomit plan was worth getting all bent about.

Trump's biggest advantage is that fascism saves money, while socialism spends it.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

This is what Trump and the extreme right are saying:

Republicans are advocating for work requirements for Medicaid recipients, arguing that some individuals on the program could be working but are not, and that this policy encourages personal responsibility and reduces government spending. They believe that requiring able-bodied adults to work or participate in work-related activities, such as job training or community service, will incentivize more people to enter the workforce and reduce the number of people relying on Medicaid.

Here are the real facts:

Many people working full-time jobs still struggle financially and need help to survive, according to recent reports.

• Nearly 40 million families, or 29% of the population, are considered "ALICE" (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed), meaning they earn above the poverty line but still struggle to afford basic necessities.
• 73% of workers report struggling to afford anything beyond basic expenses, essentially living paycheck to paycheck.
• 40% of workers have even missed work because of financial stress.

This highlights a significant gap between the ability of many full-time jobs to provide a living wage and the increasing cost of living, leaving many individuals and families in precarious financial situations.

This fact goes to prove that Medicaid does more good than not, and that hurting these WORKING families (to get rid of the ones that do nothing and scam Medicaid) will do more damage to our nation than help it. When 73% of WORKING Americans struggle, why would a president want to cause them more pain in order to force those that are not working, to find a job?

So you're saying ObamaCare didn't fix this?

 

[scruffy]

More leftard pablum.

There is no far right in this country.

Doesn't exist

 

[Muhammed]

There are quite a few of our friends that depend on Medicaid. They will be affected with this Bill. Why would I not post things about how TRUMP'S big beautiful bill will affect them?

Why don't they just get a ******* job if they want to receive those high dollar golden Medicaid perks?

Are they evading taxes by working for cash under the table?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

This is what Trump and the extreme right are saying:

Republicans are advocating for work requirements for Medicaid recipients, arguing that some individuals on the program could be working but are not, and that this policy encourages personal responsibility and reduces government spending. They believe that requiring able-bodied adults to work or participate in work-related activities, such as job training or community service, will incentivize more people to enter the workforce and reduce the number of people relying on Medicaid.

Here are the real facts:

Many people working full-time jobs still struggle financially and need help to survive, according to recent reports.

• Nearly 40 million families, or 29% of the population, are considered "ALICE" (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed), meaning they earn above the poverty line but still struggle to afford basic necessities.
• 73% of workers report struggling to afford anything beyond basic expenses, essentially living paycheck to paycheck.
• 40% of workers have even missed work because of financial stress.

This highlights a significant gap between the ability of many full-time jobs to provide a living wage and the increasing cost of living, leaving many individuals and families in precarious financial situations.

This fact goes to prove that Medicaid does more good than not, and that hurting these WORKING families (to get rid of the ones that do nothing and scam Medicaid) will do more damage to our nation than help it. When 73% of WORKING Americans struggle, why would a president want to cause them more pain in order to force those that are not working, to find a job?

Republicans are advocating for work requirements for Medicaid recipients, arguing that some individuals on the program could be working but are not,

If healthy people don't work and are on Medicaid, they should be kicked off.

Many people working full-time jobs still struggle financially and need help to survive, according to recent reports.

If they qualify, financially, does this bill kick them off?

This fact goes to prove that Medicaid does more good than not

And that should continue, after these people are kicked off.

When 73% of WORKING Americans struggle,

I heard 93% of statistics like this are fake.

 

[Meister]

No you are wrong. Read the facts that I put up on post #16

Yup, abled body and illegals. Not sure what you don't understand.

 

[DonGlock26]

This is what Trump and the extreme right are saying:

Republicans are advocating for work requirements for Medicaid recipients, arguing that some individuals on the program could be working but are not, and that this policy encourages personal responsibility and reduces government spending. They believe that requiring able-bodied adults to work or participate in work-related activities, such as job training or community service, will incentivize more people to enter the workforce and reduce the number of people relying on Medicaid.

Here are the real facts:

Many people working full-time jobs still struggle financially and need help to survive, according to recent reports.

• Nearly 40 million families, or 29% of the population, are considered "ALICE" (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed), meaning they earn above the poverty line but still struggle to afford basic necessities.
• 73% of workers report struggling to afford anything beyond basic expenses, essentially living paycheck to paycheck.
• 40% of workers have even missed work because of financial stress.

This highlights a significant gap between the ability of many full-time jobs to provide a living wage and the increasing cost of living, leaving many individuals and families in precarious financial situations.

This fact goes to prove that Medicaid does more good than not, and that hurting these WORKING families (to get rid of the ones that do nothing and scam Medicaid) will do more damage to our nation than help it. When 73% of WORKING Americans struggle, why would a president want to cause them more pain in order to force those that are not working, to find a job?

Lucky, you'll have to work at least 20 hrs a week to keep your taxpayer provided free shit.

 

[DonGlock26]

There are quite a few of our friends that depend on Medicaid. They will be affected with this Bill. Why would I not post things about how TRUMP'S big beautiful bill will affect them?

Are they able bodied?

 

[Luckyone]

Are they able bodied?

Yes they are. One of them is a woman in her 60's who drives an Uber and she is on Medicaid. She depends on Medicaid because her income in Uber is very limited.