10.9 million people would lose health insurance under Trump's tax cut bill, CBO projects

[ThisIsMe]

It is clearly evident that you have never filed or gone to a Medicaid office.

Oh and by the way, I am very computer literate and when I helped my friend, it took me a full 2 days to get the information requested and filed and even then, it was because my friend had the stuff needed and available to be used....................many don't.

And yet, how many enroll each year?

 

[dudmuck]

Nobody needs to lose their healthcare at all. Simply either buy your own plan, or get a job and participate in your employer's plan. What's wrong with you facediaper??

 

[Luckyone]

And yet, how many enroll each year?

Did you not read the info that I put up? There is a NEW requirement for Medicaid recipients and that is that now they have to resubmit the paperwork twice a year (before it was once a year). That makes it very difficult for Medicaid recipients.

 

[Luckyone]

And yet, how many enroll each year?

Not saying Trump is going to bring housing prices down but less than a year in I don’t think you can declare he broke that promise.

 

[22lcidw]

Not saying Trump is going to bring housing prices down but less than a year in I don’t think you can declare he broke that promise.

We need to find a way to lower costs for medical care for all.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Did you not read the info that I put up? There is a NEW requirement for Medicaid recipients and that is that now they have to resubmit the paperwork twice a year (before it was once a year). That makes it very difficult for Medicaid recipients.

So if they can do it once a year then how is it more difficult the second time?

 

[ThisIsMe]

Not saying Trump is going to bring housing prices down but less than a year in I don’t think you can declare he broke that promise.

I look at campaign promises like going to Vegas, sure, you can try to get a lot out of them, but in the end, you'll just be left with empty pockets.

 

[Kilroy2]

Only the able-bodied lazy and illegal aliens will lose coverage.
But tell me more about the tax breaks for the hyper wealthy!

Suprise that it benefits him and his wealthy friends.
Hey that is the Trickle up theory which was his plan all along.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Of the ABAWDs on Medicaid, 8.1 million (58 percent) worked 80 or more hours in December of 2022. Another 1.5 million worked 80 or more hours in a prior month in 2022 while another 0.3 million had been enrolled in Medicaid for less than a year. Combining all three of these figures shows that there are only 4 million ABAWDS who are persistently enrolled in Medicaid and work fewer than 80 hours a month. This is about 29 percent of ABAWDs, 5 percent of all Medicaid recipients, and 1 percent of the US population.

First, the AEI figures only count people as disabled if they are currently receiving SSI or some other kind of disability benefit. But not everyone who is disabled is currently receiving disability benefits. Some individuals have short-term disabilities. Others are receiving Medicaid while they work through the disability determination process, which can take years. Still others have fallen through the cracks of the disability benefit system in one way or another.

Luckily, in addition to collecting income information, SIPP directly asks people whether they have a disability that makes it difficult for them to work or find employment and asks people whether they have one of the six core disabilities — seeing, hearing, walking, dressing/bathing, doing errands alone, or cognitive problems — regularly tracked by the Census. Including individuals that answer yes to these questions results in another 8.8 million disabled people that AEI wrongly counts as able-bodied.
Second, in addition to looking at whether individuals worked 80+ hours in December 2022, I used the longitudinal features of the SIPP to see how many worked 80+ hours in one of the other months of 2022 and how many had been enrolled in Medicaid for less than a year. Individuals in these latter two groups are not persistently workless Medicaid users of the sort conservatives want people to believe are extremely numerous in the Medicaid system.

Once these changes are made, what we find is that 71 percent, rather than 44 percent, of ABAWDs on Medicaid are not persistently workless dole scroungers. Of course, some of the 4 million people who end up in the residual “Everyone Else” bucket above are students and people who simply cannot find a job despite trying. Absolutely none of this suggests there is a serious social problem here in need of addressing.

Is There Really an Epidemic of Workless Medicaid Recipients?

A deep dive into the Survey of Income and Program Participation.

www.peoplespolicyproject.org

"Of the ABAWDs on Medicaid, 8.1 million (58 percent) worked 80 or more hours in December of 2022. Another 1.5 million worked 80 or more hours in a prior month in 2022".

As I said, most people on Medicaid work for employers who do not offer health insurance and throw them onto the taxpayers' dime.

Do America a favor and
Stay off the leftist kook sites

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Suprise that it benefits him and his wealthy friends.
Hey that is the Trickle up theory which was his plan all along.

There was never a trickle down theory so the trickle up theory is just as dumb.

 

[Rambunctious]

So, tell us how a small shopkeeper, or a barista is going to afford private health insurance.

Your post reeks with casual cruelty.

If a shopkeeper can't afford healthcare they would qualify for medicaid... and a barista should be on company insurance... the only people losing health coverage on medicaid are illegal aliens and able bodied lazy Americans... and taking them off will help save the program for the shopkeeper who can't afford it...
Get it?....

 

[Luckyone]

So if they can do it once a year then how is it more difficult the second time?

It is always difficult

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Suprise that it benefits him and his wealthy friends.
Hey that is the Trickle up theory which was his plan all along.

Sounds awful!
What are these benefits to the wealthy that required cutting benefits going to illegal aliens and the lazy.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

This is what Trump and the extreme right are saying:

Republicans are advocating for work requirements for Medicaid recipients, arguing that some individuals on the program could be working but are not, and that this policy encourages personal responsibility and reduces government spending. They believe that requiring able-bodied adults to work or participate in work-related activities, such as job training or community service, will incentivize more people to enter the workforce and reduce the number of people relying on Medicaid.

Here are the real facts:

Many people working full-time jobs still struggle financially and need help to survive, according to recent reports.

• Nearly 40 million families, or 29% of the population, are considered "ALICE" (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed), meaning they earn above the poverty line but still struggle to afford basic necessities.
• 73% of workers report struggling to afford anything beyond basic expenses, essentially living paycheck to paycheck.
• 40% of workers have even missed work because of financial stress.

This highlights a significant gap between the ability of many full-time jobs to provide a living wage and the increasing cost of living, leaving many individuals and families in precarious financial situations.

This fact goes to prove that Medicaid does more good than not, and that hurting these WORKING families (to get rid of the ones that do nothing and scam Medicaid) will do more damage to our nation than help it. When 73% of WORKING Americans struggle, why would a president want to cause them more pain in order to force those that are not working, to find a job?

Leftists will never understand work is good for the human condition. Idle hands and minds is not.

 

[Kilroy2]

There was never a trickle down theory so the trickle up theory is just as dumb.

Seriously what year where you born and you should be laughing at yourself

Trickle down economy was Regan's claim to fame as a theory for the economy

Trickle up is just a play on words. So lose that tie before you choke

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Facts are:


AI Overview


Recent legislation, often referred to as "Trump's big beautiful bill," includes provisions that are projected to cause a significant number of Americans to lose their Medicaid coverage
. While the precise percentage of working Americans specifically who will lose coverage due to the new work requirements is not available, here's a breakdown of the overall impact and related information:

• Overall Coverage Loss:
  • The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates that roughly 11.8 million people could lose Medicaid coverage over the next decade due to the bill's changes to the program, according to PBS.
  • Another estimate suggests the number could be as high as 17 million due to additional policy changes, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (CBPP).
• Work Requirements:
  • A key provision of the bill imposes a work requirement for certain Medicaid beneficiaries aged 19 to 64.
  • This requirement mandates at least 80 hours per month of "community engagement," which includes employment, volunteer activities, or education, to maintain eligibility.
  • Exemptions are in place for parents/caretakers of children 13 and younger, disabled veterans, and those considered "medically frail," which includes individuals with disabilities, substance use disorder, or serious medical conditions.
  • Despite the work requirement, many Medicaid recipients are already working, attending school, or have disabilities or caregiving responsibilities that would likely exempt them from this requirement, according to AP News.
  • One source states that only about 8% of Medicaid enrollees report not working or being unable to find work.
• Impact on Medicaid Program:
  • The bill is projected to cut over $1 trillion in federal spending from Medicaid over the next decade.
  • This could lead to hospitals facing reduced payments and higher costs, potentially jeopardizing services or even leading to closures, particularly in rural areas, according to The Wall Street Journal.

In essence, while millions are projected to lose coverage due to the bill, the exact number of working Americans who will be affected by the work requirement specifically is not definitively known at this time. However, a significant portion of Medicaid recipients already engage in work or activities that might qualify for an exemption.

Stay off the AI.

 

[Rambunctious]

We need to find a way to lower costs for medical care for all.

It was affordable until Pelosi and Obama messed with it...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Seriously what year where you born and you should be laughing at yourself

Trickle down economy was Regan's claim to fame as a theory for the economy

Trickle up is just a play on words. So lose that tie before you choke

Trickle down economy was Regan's claim to fame as a theory for the economy

Supply-side economics is awesome!
Works every time it is tried.

 

[ThisIsMe]

It is always difficult

So if they did it once, save that information, documents, whatever, for the next time.

 

[Kilroy2]

Sounds awful!
What are these benefits to the wealthy that required cutting benefits going to illegal aliens and the lazy.

The law extends tax breaks on individuals and corporations that Trump passed in 2017, while adding new tax cuts. It also boosts spending on immigration enforcement and the military and makes deep cuts to the Medicaid health care program for the poor.
Republican lawmakers largely shrugged off concerns about the legislation as it advanced, saying it would prove out over time. Democrats have vowed to make the new law a major campaign issue, saying it disproportionately benefits the rich and hurts lower income people.

'Big, fat tax break': Vance starts push to sell signature Trump law amid polling concerns

Trump's legislation narrowly cleared Congress. Now the administration is facing the challenge of selling it to the public.

www.yahoo.com