10/2020: Solar is now ‘Cheapest Electricity in History’, confirms IEA

[abu afak]

Solar is now ‘cheapest electricity in history’, confirms IEA​

October 2020

Solar is now ‘cheapest electricity in history’, confirms IEA

The world’s best solar power schemes now offer the “cheapest…electricity in history” with the technology cheaper than coal and gas in most major countries.

www.carbonbrief.org

""The world’s best solar power schemes now offer the “cheapest…electricity in history” with the technology cheaper than coal and gas in most major countries.

That is according to the International Energy Agency’s World Energy Outlook 2020. The 464-page outlook, published today by the IEA, also outlines the “extraordinarily turbulent” impact of coronavirus and the “highly uncertain” future of global energy use over the next two decades....."

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Wrong. The price has come down in the last decade due to GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES.

Wrong.
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[jc456]

Wrong.
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are you saying there aren't subsidies? Please, you really aren't going to trap yourself are you? Solyndra ring a bell for you?

 

[abu afak]

are you saying there aren't subsidies? Please, you really aren't going to trap yourself are you? Solyndra ring a bell for you?

Solyndra went out of business in 2011.
ALL the articles I posted talk about the 85%-90% drop in cost from 2010-2020 Decade.
You OCD ONE-LINE Idiot/troll.
You are incapable of posting any data or writing a paragraph...
Along with being Unbelievably STUPID.

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[fncceo]

You OCD ONE-LINE Idiot/troll.
You are incapable of posting any data or writing a paragraph...
Along with being Unbelievably STUPID.

Do you find this to be an effective way of converting other people to your point of view?

 

[Cellblock2429]

Do you find this to be an effective way of converting other people to your point of view?

/——/ Today’s kids aren’t taught critical thinking. Their only debate skills are to scream in your face and call you names. Sadly, they think it actually works.

 

[abu afak]

Solar is now ‘cheapest electricity in history’, confirms IEA​

October 2020

Solar is now ‘cheapest electricity in history’, confirms IEA

The world’s best solar power schemes now offer the “cheapest…electricity in history” with the technology cheaper than coal and gas in most major countries.

www.carbonbrief.org

""The world’s best solar power schemes now offer the “cheapest…electricity in history” with the technology cheaper than coal and gas in most major countries.

That is according to the International Energy Agency’s World Energy Outlook 2020. The 464-page outlook, published today by the IEA, also outlines the “extraordinarily turbulent” impact of coronavirus and the “highly uncertain” future of global energy use over the next two decades....."

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My two LOW IQ OFF TOPIC MOD OPPONENTS (Meister and Mister) can't take the pressure of the truth.
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[jc456]

Solyndra went out of business in 2011.
ALL the articles I posted talk about the 85%-90% drop in cost from 2010-2020 Decade.
You OCD ONE-LINE Idiot/troll.
You are incapable of posting any data or writing a paragraph...
Along with being Unbelievably STUPID.

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The articles you post are mostly nonsense

 

[Stann]

Do you find this to be an effective way of converting other people to your point of view?

There is no way to deal with jc456, he is an incorrigible troll. You have to want to be in a conversation first and you have to be a reasonable person to have a conversation.

 

[jc456]

There is no way to deal with jc456, he is an incorrigible troll. You have to want to be in a conversation first and you have to be a reasonable person to have a conversation.

I accept the compliment

 

[jc456]

There is no way to deal with jc456, he is an incorrigible troll. You have to want to be in a conversation first and you have to be a reasonable person to have a conversation.

None of you parrots can handle a conversation, your masters don’t want you to engage in one.

BTW, posting links without explanation isn’t a conversation

 

[fncceo]

There is no way to deal with jc456, he is an incorrigible troll. You have to want to be in a conversation first and you have to be a reasonable person to have a conversation.

Is calling someone stupid and various other pejoratives because they don't accept your beliefs considered "having a conversation"?

 

[abu afak]

Is calling someone stupid and various other pejoratives because they don't accept your beliefs considered "having a conversation"?

Aren't you all clever.

The evidence still stands. The Earth is getting warmer and human combustion of fossil fuels is the primary cause.

Then jc456's Oft repeated:

Why is it 70 one day and 30 the next? Why won’t you explain?

The above jc456 post/'challenge' is oft repeated and is Spectacularly STUPID for Anyone, much less someone who has Haunted this section for Years with Tens of THOUSANDS of Posts.

Yes, that's right...
according to jc456 Global Warming can't be true if Every day isn't warmer than last.
Winters prove it.
A single cold front moving thru in ANY locale that drops the temp also 'proves it can't be true.'

He is Not only STUPID, but TOO STUPID to even respond to or 'debate' on the topic.

Now go Fvck yourself Finocchio.

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[Toddsterpatriot]

 

[abu afak]

Here AGAIN/Every time, OFF Topic ToddsterPoofette is a DISHONEST ONE-LINE (or jpg) HARASSMENT TROLL.
(oft 5 or so words with a question mark, as he can't be bothered - and no real knowledge- to Refute anything)
He has NO life and No reason for Posting except Baiting from his Wheelchair for some tiny detail.
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[abu afak]

Here AGAIN/Every time, OFF Topic

The above Bait was how/why today's interaction started.
But now I will respond in spades since there is NO Moderation here despite MisterBeale's LIE that he would stop this kind of thing.
He Lied and does not even respond to reports of many over many days.

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[jc456]

according to jc456 Global Warming can't be true if Every day isn't warmer than last

Incorrect, why is one day 40 degree’s cooler after a hot day?

 

[abu afak]

@abu afak some links for you to read -

Carbon footprint

EEA report confirms: electric cars are better for climate and air quality​

Battery electric cars emit less greenhouse gases and air pollutants over their entire life cycle than petrol and diesel cars, according to a European Environment Agency (EEA) report, published today. Promoting renewable energy and circular economy — including the shared use of vehicles and...
www.eea.europa.eu
One third of motorists can't charge at home

What do we do about all the people who can’t charge an EV at home?​

Two-thirds of US drivers can charge at home—that leaves plenty who can't.
arstechnica.com
Price of EV second hand market -

Is demand for electric cars declining? We look into the data

By the middle of this month, the average used EV advertised price on Auto Trader was £34,197. While this is far higher than the average across all fuel types collectively (£17,880), it is a 9.1 per cent decline in value compared to mid-February 2021.

Renewables can't react quickly to demand. Did you know, renewables to supply the equivalent electric that a nuclear plant generates, needs 450 times more land space.

Global electricity demand is growing faster than renewables, driving strong increase in generation from fossil fuels - News - IEA​

Global electricity demand is growing faster than renewables, driving strong increase in generation from fossil fuels - News from the International Energy Agency

www.iea.org
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1. The price of EVs, just dropped 20% THIS month when Tesla cut prices and forced everyone else down too. Used EVs are still a very thin market.
1a. I already have a very recent thread on Prices and it's now lower.

2. Only a third of homes having chargers would allow 10x the EVs there are now.

3. Renewables do take app 400x Nuke space.....
3a. But they take about the SAME or Less than Fossil Fuels.. and are cleaner and cheaper... and carbon Neutral

How Much Land Would it Require to Get Most of Our Electricity from Wind and Solar?​

A recent study from the National Renewable Energy Laboratory offers a detailed and heartening answer.
blog.ucsusa.org


4. We could get All of our power from Solar Alone covering an area Only as big as Lake Michigan!
Spread over the country that's Nothing.

"...Solar's abundance and potential throughout the United States is staggering: PV panels on just 22,000 square miles of the nation's total land area – about the size of Lake Michigan – could supply enough electricity to power the entire United States.".."
https://www.energy.gov/eere/solar/solar-energy-united-states#:~:text=Solar's abundance and potential throughout,power the entire United States​

4a. Call it 50% With Wind and some NG back up, that's really nothing. 10,000 sq miles. Or 100x100 miles spread out over the whole country.
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[Cellblock2429]

1. The price of EVs, just dropped 20% THIS month when Tesla cut prices and forced everyone else down too. Used EVs are still a very thin market.
1a. I already have a very recent thread on Prices and it's now lower.

2. Only a third of homes having chargers would allow 10x the EVs there are now.

3. Renewables do take app 400x Nuke space.....
3a. But they take about the SAME or Less than Fossil Fuels.. and are cleaner and cheaper... and carbon Neutral

How Much Land Would it Require to Get Most of Our Electricity from Wind and Solar?​

A recent study from the National Renewable Energy Laboratory offers a detailed and heartening answer.
blog.ucsusa.org


4. We could get All of our power from Solar Alone covering an area Only as big as Lake Michigan!
Spread over the country that's Nothing.

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"...Solar's abundance and potential throughout the United States is staggering: PV panels on just 22,000 square miles of the nation's total land area – about the size of Lake Michigan – could supply enough electricity to power the entire United States.".."​

https://www.energy.gov/eere/solar/solar-energy-united-states#:~:text=Solar's abundance and potential throughout,power the entire United States​

4a. Call it 50% With Wind and some NG back up, that's really nothing. 10,000 sq miles. Or 100x100 miles spread out over the whole country.
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/——-/ 4b. The People’s Republic of Kalifornia has rolling blackouts on a regular basis making EVs to be boat anchors sitting in the driveway.
4c. EVs bursting into flames has caused a sharp increase in marshmallow sales.
4d. When you get stranded in an EV with a dead battery you can walk to the nearest charging station for a can of electricity.

 

[Crick]

/——-/ 4b. The People’s Republic of Kalifornia has rolling blackouts on a regular basis making EVs to be boat anchors sitting in the driveway.
4c. EVs bursting into flames has caused a sharp increase in marshmallow sales.
4d. When you get stranded in an EV with a dead battery you can walk to the nearest charging station for a can of electricity.

The blackouts in California are due to a increased temperatures statewide. The increased demand is almost all from air conditioners. Solar power does wane in the afternoon but the state has also experienced dramatic losses in hydroelectric capacity and breakdowns in gas fired plants from the increased demand created by higher temperatures.

Why California has blackouts: A look at the power grid

Extreme temperatures have sent electric demand on the grid to record levels.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Cellblock2429]

The blackouts in California are due to a increased temperatures statewide. The increased demand is almost all from air conditioners. Solar power does wane in the afternoon but the state has also experienced dramatic losses in hydroelectric capacity and breakdowns in gas fired plants from the increased demand created by higher temperatures.

Why California has blackouts: A look at the power grid

Extreme temperatures have sent electric demand on the grid to record levels.

abcnews.go.com

/----/ And adding more EVs with these conditions is idiotic. Time to bring back nuclear power plants.