1 in 5 US Renters Risk Eviction by 9/30/2020

[Andylusion]

Because in the greatest economy the world has ever known, people are being evicted from their apartments.

Is this something I'm supposed to care about?

Of course not. Why would YOU care about your fellow American?

Idiot people are making unemployment and getting an additional 600.00 a week tax free they are actually making more not working than working
So fuck'em if they can't live on that.

Yeah fuck those poor people, but make sure government gives trillions to the rich.

The new con motto.

Prove it.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

This is horrible. A lot of states have moritoriums on evictions however the monthly expenses keep accruing, while there is no income to offset it. So when they lift the moritoriums, all that back rent will become due at once, while the tenant may or may not have begun working again. He/she will be in the whole no matter what.

And far too many landlords are/were attempting to initiate eviction proceedings during the time they weren't allowed. Attempting to intimidate and scare people out of their homes without even going through the legal process which they couldn't do because the courts were closed.

It's a bad situation all the way around.

 

[Andylusion]

This is horrible. A lot of states have moritoriums on evictions however the monthly expenses keep accruing, while there is no income to offset it. So when they lift the moritoriums, all that back rent will become due at once, while the tenant may or may not have begun working again. He/she will be in the whole no matter what.

And far too many landlords are/were attempting to initiate eviction proceedings during the time they weren't allowed. Attempting to intimidate and scare people out of their homes without even going through the legal process which they couldn't do because the courts were closed.

It's a bad situation all the way around.

Well yeah, of course they are trying to initiate evictions and intimidate people.

My expenses as a land lord, do not magically disappear because you stop paying, and the laws says that's fine.

The law can say anything, and I still have bills to pay.

And by the way, what do you think is going to happen when I get foreclosed on? The Bank will have to kick you out of the house.

So either way, you are going to get kicked out. I don't know why people cry about the land lords, as if me just ignoring the fact the bills are not being paid, will let the renter stay in the house.

The solution is... stop all this lock down nonsense, and get people back to work.

 

[Obiwan]

This is horrible. A lot of states have moritoriums on evictions however the monthly expenses keep accruing, while there is no income to offset it. So when they lift the moritoriums, all that back rent will become due at once, while the tenant may or may not have begun working again. He/she will be in the whole no matter what.

And far too many landlords are/were attempting to initiate eviction proceedings during the time they weren't allowed. Attempting to intimidate and scare people out of their homes without even going through the legal process which they couldn't do because the courts were closed.

It's a bad situation all the way around.

The people living off a government check kept getting that check (and some states actually MAXED OUT their food stamps to help them)...

The people that kept working kept getting their paychecks...

And the people that were laid off made out like bandits!!!

If they decided to not pay their rent and let it pile up, that's on them for being irresponsible!!!

 

[gipper]

Because in the greatest economy the world has ever known, people are being evicted from their apartments.

Is this something I'm supposed to care about?

Of course not. Why would YOU care about your fellow American?

Idiot people are making unemployment and getting an additional 600.00 a week tax free they are actually making more not working than working
So fuck'em if they can't live on that.

Yeah fuck those poor people, but make sure government gives trillions to the rich.

The new con motto.

Prove it.

Read the thread.

 

[gipper]

This is horrible. A lot of states have moritoriums on evictions however the monthly expenses keep accruing, while there is no income to offset it. So when they lift the moritoriums, all that back rent will become due at once, while the tenant may or may not have begun working again. He/she will be in the whole no matter what.

And far too many landlords are/were attempting to initiate eviction proceedings during the time they weren't allowed. Attempting to intimidate and scare people out of their homes without even going through the legal process which they couldn't do because the courts were closed.

It's a bad situation all the way around.

The people living off a government check kept getting that check (and some states actually MAXED OUT their food stamps to help them)...

The people that kept working kept getting their paychecks...

And the people that were laid off made out like bandits!!!

If they decided to not pay their rent and let it pile up, that's on them for being irresponsible!!!

By bandits you mean Wall Street, big corporations, the 1%, the Catholic Church. etc right?

 

[MeBelle]

Amazing to me is that San Francisco no longer has a 'homeless' issue, since the Gov has footed the bill to put homeless in hotel rooms.

 

[Obiwan]

This is horrible. A lot of states have moritoriums on evictions however the monthly expenses keep accruing, while there is no income to offset it. So when they lift the moritoriums, all that back rent will become due at once, while the tenant may or may not have begun working again. He/she will be in the whole no matter what.

And far too many landlords are/were attempting to initiate eviction proceedings during the time they weren't allowed. Attempting to intimidate and scare people out of their homes without even going through the legal process which they couldn't do because the courts were closed.

It's a bad situation all the way around.

The people living off a government check kept getting that check (and some states actually MAXED OUT their food stamps to help them)...

The people that kept working kept getting their paychecks...

And the people that were laid off made out like bandits!!!

If they decided to not pay their rent and let it pile up, that's on them for being irresponsible!!!

By bandits you mean Wall Street, big corporations, the 1%, the Catholic Church. etc right?

I'm talking about the people that made MORE by being laid off...

Unlike the essential workers (like me), who worked the entire TIME without "free money" (other than the stimulus)...

So if I made it, I have no sympathy for the irresponsible people...

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

This is horrible. A lot of states have moritoriums on evictions however the monthly expenses keep accruing, while there is no income to offset it. So when they lift the moritoriums, all that back rent will become due at once, while the tenant may or may not have begun working again. He/she will be in the whole no matter what.

And far too many landlords are/were attempting to initiate eviction proceedings during the time they weren't allowed. Attempting to intimidate and scare people out of their homes without even going through the legal process which they couldn't do because the courts were closed.

It's a bad situation all the way around.

Well yeah, of course they are trying to initiate evictions and intimidate people.

My expenses as a land lord, do not magically disappear because you stop paying, and the laws says that's fine.

The law can say anything, and I still have bills to pay.

And by the way, what do you think is going to happen when I get foreclosed on? The Bank will have to kick you out of the house.

So either way, you are going to get kicked out. I don't know why people cry about the land lords, as if me just ignoring the fact the bills are not being paid, will let the renter stay in the house.

The solution is... stop all this lock down nonsense, and get people back to work.

You were unable to take advantage of the mortgage forbearance provision in the CARES Act?
CARES Act Mortgage Forbearance: What You Need to Know | Consumer Financial Protection Bureau

Good thing I'm not one of your tenants huh?

 

[gipper]

This is horrible. A lot of states have moritoriums on evictions however the monthly expenses keep accruing, while there is no income to offset it. So when they lift the moritoriums, all that back rent will become due at once, while the tenant may or may not have begun working again. He/she will be in the whole no matter what.

And far too many landlords are/were attempting to initiate eviction proceedings during the time they weren't allowed. Attempting to intimidate and scare people out of their homes without even going through the legal process which they couldn't do because the courts were closed.

It's a bad situation all the way around.

The people living off a government check kept getting that check (and some states actually MAXED OUT their food stamps to help them)...

The people that kept working kept getting their paychecks...

And the people that were laid off made out like bandits!!!

If they decided to not pay their rent and let it pile up, that's on them for being irresponsible!!!

By bandits you mean Wall Street, big corporations, the 1%, the Catholic Church. etc right?

I'm talking about the people that made MORE by being laid off...

Unlike the essential workers (like me), who worked the entire TIME without "free money" (other than the stimulus)...

So if I made it, I have no sympathy for the irresponsible people...

You should be focusing your disgust at Trump and Congress who enriched the rich massively, while throwing peanuts at the people.

Yet more proof our government only cares about the ultra rich.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Because in the greatest economy the world has ever known, people are being evicted from their apartments.

Is this something I'm supposed to care about?

Of course not. Why would YOU care about your fellow American?

Idiot people are making unemployment and getting an additional 600.00 a week tax free they are actually making more not working than working
So fuck'em if they can't live on that.

Yeah fuck those poor people, but make sure government gives trillions to the rich.

The new con motto.

Prove it.

Read the thread.

Dumbass democrats shut the economy down
So they said fuck you working class

 

[Andylusion]

This is horrible. A lot of states have moritoriums on evictions however the monthly expenses keep accruing, while there is no income to offset it. So when they lift the moritoriums, all that back rent will become due at once, while the tenant may or may not have begun working again. He/she will be in the whole no matter what.

And far too many landlords are/were attempting to initiate eviction proceedings during the time they weren't allowed. Attempting to intimidate and scare people out of their homes without even going through the legal process which they couldn't do because the courts were closed.

It's a bad situation all the way around.

The people living off a government check kept getting that check (and some states actually MAXED OUT their food stamps to help them)...

The people that kept working kept getting their paychecks...

And the people that were laid off made out like bandits!!!

If they decided to not pay their rent and let it pile up, that's on them for being irresponsible!!!

By bandits you mean Wall Street, big corporations, the 1%, the Catholic Church. etc right?

I'm talking about the people that made MORE by being laid off...

Unlike the essential workers (like me), who worked the entire TIME without "free money" (other than the stimulus)...

So if I made it, I have no sympathy for the irresponsible people...

You should be focusing your disgust at Trump and Congress who enriched the rich massively, while throwing peanuts at the people.

Yet more proof our government only cares about the ultra rich.

You do realize that 2/3 of the entire $4 Trillion budget, is money to the people... right?

2/3rds of the budget goes to the public. And you want to claim that only the ultra rich are getting money?

Prove it. Provide evidence.

 

[Andylusion]

This is horrible. A lot of states have moritoriums on evictions however the monthly expenses keep accruing, while there is no income to offset it. So when they lift the moritoriums, all that back rent will become due at once, while the tenant may or may not have begun working again. He/she will be in the whole no matter what.

And far too many landlords are/were attempting to initiate eviction proceedings during the time they weren't allowed. Attempting to intimidate and scare people out of their homes without even going through the legal process which they couldn't do because the courts were closed.

It's a bad situation all the way around.

Well yeah, of course they are trying to initiate evictions and intimidate people.

My expenses as a land lord, do not magically disappear because you stop paying, and the laws says that's fine.

The law can say anything, and I still have bills to pay.

And by the way, what do you think is going to happen when I get foreclosed on? The Bank will have to kick you out of the house.

So either way, you are going to get kicked out. I don't know why people cry about the land lords, as if me just ignoring the fact the bills are not being paid, will let the renter stay in the house.

The solution is... stop all this lock down nonsense, and get people back to work.

You were unable to take advantage of the mortgage forbearance provision in the CARES Act?
CARES Act Mortgage Forbearance: What You Need to Know | Consumer Financial Protection Bureau

Good thing I'm not one of your tenants huh?

That doesn't help at all.

In the short term it does, sure. But in the long term, you are still screwed.

The forbearance only lasts 180 days, and then you owe the money you didn't pay.

So if I owe $1,000 a month on the mortgage, and 6 months later, you still have not paid me rent.... now I owe $7,000 in mortgage and back payments, and I have zero dollars from you.

Now obviously if you as the tenant, pay up your rent before the 6 months is up, great. But if you don't, then I am 6 months behind on my mortgage payment, with a renter that I can only now after months and months, start the eviction process on.

It doesn't magically make the debt go away, or magically make me able to handle the loss of income. If anything, it kind of drags the problem out, which makes it worse.

 

[gipper]

This is horrible. A lot of states have moritoriums on evictions however the monthly expenses keep accruing, while there is no income to offset it. So when they lift the moritoriums, all that back rent will become due at once, while the tenant may or may not have begun working again. He/she will be in the whole no matter what.

And far too many landlords are/were attempting to initiate eviction proceedings during the time they weren't allowed. Attempting to intimidate and scare people out of their homes without even going through the legal process which they couldn't do because the courts were closed.

It's a bad situation all the way around.

The people living off a government check kept getting that check (and some states actually MAXED OUT their food stamps to help them)...

The people that kept working kept getting their paychecks...

And the people that were laid off made out like bandits!!!

If they decided to not pay their rent and let it pile up, that's on them for being irresponsible!!!

By bandits you mean Wall Street, big corporations, the 1%, the Catholic Church. etc right?

I'm talking about the people that made MORE by being laid off...

Unlike the essential workers (like me), who worked the entire TIME without "free money" (other than the stimulus)...

So if I made it, I have no sympathy for the irresponsible people...

You should be focusing your disgust at Trump and Congress who enriched the rich massively, while throwing peanuts at the people.

Yet more proof our government only cares about the ultra rich.

You do realize that 2/3 of the entire $4 Trillion budget, is money to the people... right?

2/3rds of the budget goes to the public. And you want to claim that only the ultra rich are getting money?

Prove it. Provide evidence.

Just review the Cares Act. About 2/3 of it went to the rich.

 

[Andylusion]

This is horrible. A lot of states have moritoriums on evictions however the monthly expenses keep accruing, while there is no income to offset it. So when they lift the moritoriums, all that back rent will become due at once, while the tenant may or may not have begun working again. He/she will be in the whole no matter what.

And far too many landlords are/were attempting to initiate eviction proceedings during the time they weren't allowed. Attempting to intimidate and scare people out of their homes without even going through the legal process which they couldn't do because the courts were closed.

It's a bad situation all the way around.

The people living off a government check kept getting that check (and some states actually MAXED OUT their food stamps to help them)...

The people that kept working kept getting their paychecks...

And the people that were laid off made out like bandits!!!

If they decided to not pay their rent and let it pile up, that's on them for being irresponsible!!!

By bandits you mean Wall Street, big corporations, the 1%, the Catholic Church. etc right?

I'm talking about the people that made MORE by being laid off...

Unlike the essential workers (like me), who worked the entire TIME without "free money" (other than the stimulus)...

So if I made it, I have no sympathy for the irresponsible people...

You should be focusing your disgust at Trump and Congress who enriched the rich massively, while throwing peanuts at the people.

Yet more proof our government only cares about the ultra rich.

You do realize that 2/3 of the entire $4 Trillion budget, is money to the people... right?

2/3rds of the budget goes to the public. And you want to claim that only the ultra rich are getting money?

Prove it. Provide evidence.

Just review the Cares Act. About 2/3 of it went to the rich.

Right....... so you are going to ignore almost $3 Trillion dollars in Federal Government money that goes to the general public........ Focus exclusively on one single bill, and claim it all goes to the rich, ignoring literally Trillions of dollars that don't?

Further, I've read up on that, and it's not true.

From what I've read, ZERO money just "goes to the rich". Zero.

The only item in the Cares Act that is actually money that comes from the US government, and can possibly go to rich people, is the guaranteed loans.

But those are LOANS. They have to pay them back, with interest.

Do you have to pay back your Cash Grants you are getting? No. You don't have to pay back the money you get from the government. But the rich people have to pay back the money they get from the government.

Notice a slight difference there?

Other than that, they passed a bunch of tax deductions. A tax deduction is not "rich getting money". They are not getting a check from the government.

A deduction, is just like you taking a deduction. If you take the standard deduction, which allows you to keep your own money, do you claim that government is funding you?

No, because if you didn't work for that cash, you would have no taxes to deduct in the first place.

A deduction is not you getting money from the government.

So.... NO. You are wrong. The wealthy are not getting money from the government.

At least not from what I've read. If you have evidence, provide it.

 

[luchitociencia]

N.Y.C. Paints ‘Black Lives Matter’ in Front of Trump Tower

And what the heck the president has to do with black people killings by police?

Some of you folks have a sick mind. Lol.

 

[gipper]

This is horrible. A lot of states have moritoriums on evictions however the monthly expenses keep accruing, while there is no income to offset it. So when they lift the moritoriums, all that back rent will become due at once, while the tenant may or may not have begun working again. He/she will be in the whole no matter what.

And far too many landlords are/were attempting to initiate eviction proceedings during the time they weren't allowed. Attempting to intimidate and scare people out of their homes without even going through the legal process which they couldn't do because the courts were closed.

It's a bad situation all the way around.

The people living off a government check kept getting that check (and some states actually MAXED OUT their food stamps to help them)...

The people that kept working kept getting their paychecks...

And the people that were laid off made out like bandits!!!

If they decided to not pay their rent and let it pile up, that's on them for being irresponsible!!!

By bandits you mean Wall Street, big corporations, the 1%, the Catholic Church. etc right?

I'm talking about the people that made MORE by being laid off...

Unlike the essential workers (like me), who worked the entire TIME without "free money" (other than the stimulus)...

So if I made it, I have no sympathy for the irresponsible people...

You should be focusing your disgust at Trump and Congress who enriched the rich massively, while throwing peanuts at the people.

Yet more proof our government only cares about the ultra rich.

You do realize that 2/3 of the entire $4 Trillion budget, is money to the people... right?

2/3rds of the budget goes to the public. And you want to claim that only the ultra rich are getting money?

Prove it. Provide evidence.

Just review the Cares Act. About 2/3 of it went to the rich.

Right....... so you are going to ignore almost $3 Trillion dollars in Federal Government money that goes to the general public........ Focus exclusively on one single bill, and claim it all goes to the rich, ignoring literally Trillions of dollars that don't?

Further, I've read up on that, and it's not true.

From what I've read, ZERO money just "goes to the rich". Zero.

The only item in the Cares Act that is actually money that comes from the US government, and can possibly go to rich people, is the guaranteed loans.

But those are LOANS. They have to pay them back, with interest.

Do you have to pay back your Cash Grants you are getting? No. You don't have to pay back the money you get from the government. But the rich people have to pay back the money they get from the government.

Notice a slight difference there?

Other than that, they passed a bunch of tax deductions. A tax deduction is not "rich getting money". They are not getting a check from the government.

A deduction, is just like you taking a deduction. If you take the standard deduction, which allows you to keep your own money, do you claim that government is funding you?

No, because if you didn't work for that cash, you would have no taxes to deduct in the first place.

A deduction is not you getting money from the government.

So.... NO. You are wrong. The wealthy are not getting money from the government.

At least not from what I've read. If you have evidence, provide it.

So you’re going to ignore what happened during the Great Recession, when over 8 million Americans lost their homes due to criminal actions by big banks, rating agencies, and mortgage brokers. Those criminal actors got bailed out. Not the American people.

Now a pandemic shuts down the economy forcing millions of Americans out of work and unable to pay their bills, but you think $600 and unemployment benefits is good enough for the people. You ignore the trillions going to the wealthy.

 

[Andylusion]

This is horrible. A lot of states have moritoriums on evictions however the monthly expenses keep accruing, while there is no income to offset it. So when they lift the moritoriums, all that back rent will become due at once, while the tenant may or may not have begun working again. He/she will be in the whole no matter what.

And far too many landlords are/were attempting to initiate eviction proceedings during the time they weren't allowed. Attempting to intimidate and scare people out of their homes without even going through the legal process which they couldn't do because the courts were closed.

It's a bad situation all the way around.

The people living off a government check kept getting that check (and some states actually MAXED OUT their food stamps to help them)...

The people that kept working kept getting their paychecks...

And the people that were laid off made out like bandits!!!

If they decided to not pay their rent and let it pile up, that's on them for being irresponsible!!!

By bandits you mean Wall Street, big corporations, the 1%, the Catholic Church. etc right?

I'm talking about the people that made MORE by being laid off...

Unlike the essential workers (like me), who worked the entire TIME without "free money" (other than the stimulus)...

So if I made it, I have no sympathy for the irresponsible people...

You should be focusing your disgust at Trump and Congress who enriched the rich massively, while throwing peanuts at the people.

Yet more proof our government only cares about the ultra rich.

You do realize that 2/3 of the entire $4 Trillion budget, is money to the people... right?

2/3rds of the budget goes to the public. And you want to claim that only the ultra rich are getting money?

Prove it. Provide evidence.

Just review the Cares Act. About 2/3 of it went to the rich.

Right....... so you are going to ignore almost $3 Trillion dollars in Federal Government money that goes to the general public........ Focus exclusively on one single bill, and claim it all goes to the rich, ignoring literally Trillions of dollars that don't?

Further, I've read up on that, and it's not true.

From what I've read, ZERO money just "goes to the rich". Zero.

The only item in the Cares Act that is actually money that comes from the US government, and can possibly go to rich people, is the guaranteed loans.

But those are LOANS. They have to pay them back, with interest.

Do you have to pay back your Cash Grants you are getting? No. You don't have to pay back the money you get from the government. But the rich people have to pay back the money they get from the government.

Notice a slight difference there?

Other than that, they passed a bunch of tax deductions. A tax deduction is not "rich getting money". They are not getting a check from the government.

A deduction, is just like you taking a deduction. If you take the standard deduction, which allows you to keep your own money, do you claim that government is funding you?

No, because if you didn't work for that cash, you would have no taxes to deduct in the first place.

A deduction is not you getting money from the government.

So.... NO. You are wrong. The wealthy are not getting money from the government.

At least not from what I've read. If you have evidence, provide it.

So you’re going to ignore what happened during the Great Recession, when over 8 million Americans lost their homes due to criminal actions by big banks, rating agencies, and mortgage brokers. Those criminal actors got bailed out. Not the American people.

Now a pandemic shuts down the economy forcing millions of Americans out of work and unable to pay their bills, but you think $600 and unemployment benefits is good enough for the people. You ignore the trillions going to the wealthy.

Criminal actions?

The government did that. Freddie Mac, under the control of Bill Clinton, pushed to force banks to make bad loans, just like Obama was doing at that time.



Andrew Cuomo openly admitted they didn't qualify for loans, and the government forced to the banks to make loans.

Additionally the government guaranteed those sub-prime loans.

In 1996, the Department of Housing and Urban Development set a target for Fannie and Freddie that 42 percent of their investment must go to CRA-eligible borrowers.​

in order to make that happen....

​

In 1997, the first securitization of CRA loans, by Bear Stearns, was guaranteed by Freddie Mac. Bear Stearns soon issued another $1.9 billion of CRA mortgages guaranteed by Fannie and Freddie. Fannie securitized close to $400 billion of CRA mortgages between 2000 and 2002. Fannie and Freddie were the primary drivers fueling the demand for secondary market subprime securities.​

​

The Professor: Yes, Community Reinvestment Act to blame for mortgage crisis

The Community Reinvestment Act, or CRA, regulations caused the failure of the two government-sponsored mortgage investment giants, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and their failure is at the heart of t…

www.sun-sentinel.com

This is well documented. If the government had not been involved in the mortgage market, the sub-prime bubble and crash in 2008, would never have happened.

Before the government got directly involved in 1997, sub-prime was a niche market. It would have stayed that way forever.

As soon as the government guaranteed sub-prime loans, with AAA ratings, the market boomed, which caused the bubble, and crashed in 2008.

Banks didn't do that. Government did. Facts over opinion.

 

[georgephillip]

Betcha Warren Buffet will save the say like he always does by buying out bankrupt entities then makes more billions. Cant wait for that fucker to di...

Billionaires are not your friend.
Larry Fink is just as big a threat to America's future as Buffet:

'Conflicts of Interest Abound': Progressives Sound Alarm as BlackRock Prepares to Lead the Fed's Covid-19 Corporate Bailout Program

"BlackRock, the largest asset management firm on the planet, has for years faced criticism and protests from progressives over its massive investments in fossil fuels, private prisons, and the arms industry—and now the financial behemoth is set to take on a leading role in the Federal Reserve's sprawling coronavirus bailout program."

The richest will always get richer if US voters continue "choosing" between Republicans or Democrats.

 

[georgephillip]

I can only come to the conclusion that this is not my problem and I can't and won't get involved in the tragedy and misfortune of every sad sap that has problems. I have enough on my own plate.
Everyone is free to better themselves and their own circumstances. Depend on the Nanny State at your own peril.

Billionaires are created by the "Nanny State."
Which category can society do without?

Dean Baker: The Conservative Nanny State

"Here is the brutal truth, exposed systematically, methodically, unsparingly. Forget the pork rinds and the hokey Texas twang: Conservative government is government by and for the upper class."