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You can't expect NK to cooperate in getting rid of its nukes. That is not going to happen. It has seen how Trump/the US respects treaties and agreements. That Trump has stopped insulting and threatening NK for the moment is hardly Nobel worthy.I think Kim really appreciated that Trump was willing to respect him enough to meet face to face. How can we expect people to cooperate when we don't respect them enough to have normal diplomacy?
But you are not doing it now, to the discomfit of SK and Japan.Oh, they sure won big there, right? Not like we could just continue that at literally any moment.
You're ridiculous if you think we gave into Kim and got nothing out of it.
What did we get?
AND russiaNone of that happened while Kim Jong Un is in power. He's not his father, and he's shown unprecedented willingness to cooperate with the west. He's talking about visiting Washington. I think it's for real this time, and I wonder how long people like you will foam at the mouth before finally realizing you are wrong.
That's what happens when the you're the supreme leader of the DPRK and the Chinese decide that NK has outlived its usefulness as a regional counterbalance. The smack upside the head from Beijing is the source of that "unprecedented willingness", the fact that Moon Jae-in and Trump recognized that opportunity is a credit to both of 'em, let's just hope the opportunity isn't squandered.
Yes, China is likely a large part of why Kim is cooperating. I mentioned that in another thread. That makes me even more sure it's serious this time.
IMHO China is probably the only "part", the North Koreans are nearly entirely economically dependent on the Chinese, if a lasting peace is achieved on a denuclearized Korean Peninsula then the need for a U.S. Military presence in South Korea will evaporate and open the way for a Chinese-South Korean economic alignment, thus vastly diminishing U.S. influence in Asia.
Make no mistake, if this all works out, China stands to benefit the most from it.
I repeat, you were WRONG.FALSE
Kim got what his family wanted for 30 years
Legitmacy..
and even Dick-Licking praise for this Cult leader from Trumpov.
North Korea is a country with a military that has nuclear capability. They are legitimate, and it's not unreasonable to conduct normal diplomacy with them. You really don't think acknowledging Kim as the leader of North Korea is worth his cooperation? That's very short sighted.
You 12 IQ Clown.
You sure do insult people a lot. Projection maybe?
But you are not doing it now, to the discomfit of SK and Japan.Oh, they sure won big there, right? Not like we could just continue that at literally any moment.
I repeat, you were WRONG.FALSE
Kim got what his family wanted for 30 years
Legitmacy..
and even Dick-Licking praise for this Cult leader from Trumpov.
North Korea is a country with a military that has nuclear capability. They are legitimate, and it's not unreasonable to conduct normal diplomacy with them. You really don't think acknowledging Kim as the leader of North Korea is worth his cooperation? That's very short sighted.
You 12 IQ Clown.
You sure do insult people a lot. Projection maybe?
Kim did get something besides promises. THE biggest thing.
(you don't know enough to call it a lie)
Kim got what his family wanted for 30 years
Legitmacy..
and even Dick-Licking praise for this Cult leader from Trumpov.
Bye bye posting clown.
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It would be nice if Kim has played his hand out, & is now ready to talk peace, but not so happy about China & Russia getting what they have worked towards.
Everybody just shut the fuck up and see what happens. Holy shit!
Time is what keeps Iran from getting a nuke. Obama's deal had nothing to do with it.There's nothing positive about Trump's deal. Obama's -though flawed - kept Iran from having a nuke. Live with it.`
Can you imagine if Obama had given Dictator/Cult-Leader/Commie, a Legitimacy meeting, and also promised to stop military exercises, the Licked his Dick/called him the Albert Schweizer of Asia, then left and declared victory?
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If Obama was having peace talks with Kim the left would be singing his praises and the right would be doing exactly what the left is doing right now. Minimizing it, refusing to be positive, hoping he fails etc.
Everybody just shut the fuck up and see what happens. Holy shit!
We can't! Trump just gave the farm to North Korea! IT'S A DISASTER!!!
This is a huge win for Trump, the left have no defense other than to spin it negative which makes them look even more petty and sour puss.
I consider myself mostly left wing. I've never been more disappointed by their reaction to good news.
Everybody just shut the fuck up and see what happens. Holy shit!
We can't! Trump just gave the farm to North Korea! IT'S A DISASTER!!!
This is a huge win for Trump, the left have no defense other than to spin it negative which makes them look even more petty and sour puss.
I consider myself mostly left wing. I've never been more disappointed by their reaction to good news.
Would it hurt Dem's to give Trump credit at least for trying to broker peace on the Korean peninsula? I mean goddamn what does the man have to do to please Dem's, maybe its impossible.
You act as if we are shitting on a real peace accord. That is not what happened.
Oh, and I'm still waiting for a leftie to address the points I made in my OP. What irreversible thing have we done? What have we irresponsibility given away to North Korea?
They are also to reassure your supposed allies, SK and Japan. Be that as it may, their cessation is something NK got from the meeting.Our military exercises near North Korea are for nothing other than intimidation and provocation. It's childish, and I'd support ending it even without the negotiations.
Not threatening North Korea to begin with would have been the way to go.You act as if we are shitting on a real peace accord. That is not what happened.
You're shitting on real efforts to make meaningful and lasting progress with North Korea.
Oh, and I'm still waiting for a leftie to address the points I made in my OP. What irreversible thing have we done? What have we irresponsibility given away to North Korea?
We irreversibly gave Kim his meeting with the POTUS.
