"Your dead kids don't trump my Constitutional rights"

[DaGoose]

Yahoo is no better than the National enquire

nothing but gossip shit stirring anymore

this is suppose to be friken news?

we get more news from the Enquire and who the fxxk cares what joe the plumber says

good grief PATHETIC

I care!! Joe the Plumber is a truly great patriotic American and speaks out for our Constitutional Rights!! And if you don't like it or agree with what he says then you must be a commie lover.

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[Brain357]

Coward

Yep, as usual, when you can't respond with logic and reason, resort to the fallacy of ad hominem.

What is cowardly is cherry picking data to suit your bias. It's easy:

Let's take Norway, your beloved DISARMED Scandinavian utopia. Norway has a population of just over 5 million people with a murder rate of 2.2 per 100,000.

The state of Minnesota has one of the highest firearm ownership rates in the US. It has just over 5 million citizens...and would you look at this, a murder rate of 1.8 per 100,000...LOWER THAN NORWAY!

How in the world is that possible????

You lose asshole

FBI ? Table 4

FBI ? Table 4

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

LOL....and you bring up Cherry Picking?

Norway has a murder rate of 2.2 while the rate in the US is TWICE that?

You pick ONE state with a slightly lower murder rate and think you made a point?

How about Denmark at .9?

 

[KNB]

Rather than argue from emotion, iignorance anf/or dishonesty, why don'y you respond to what he said with substance?

Given that of the 300,000,000 guns in the US, <0.0028% are used to murder someone, you'll have a tough time.

Of your 300m+ guns, how many of them are used to stop the NSA from violating the Fourth Amendment to the US Constitution? Oh, really? An absolute zero? What a fucking surprise.

Of your 300m+ precious guns, how many of them are used to bring war criminals to justice? Again, zero because right-wing gun owners in the US adore the big fascist government and its military attack dog. Bush lied to every American voter and the entire world in order to invade Iraq, and then tortured POWs to death in secret prisons. That's precisely the scenario that the 2nd Amendment was written for.

Of your 300m+ guns in the US, how many of them are actually used to defend liberty or democracy according to the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution? ZERO.

 

[Edgetho]

That about covers it yes.
Tragedies happen and of course Liberals react in knee jerk fashion.

They're too stupid to realize that gun control would be even more dangerous and less successful than the War on Drugs.

How's that one working out?

dimocraps are too stupid to live.

And please, fatass goose. If you're 'moving to Florida, please keep your domicile in Illinois. We don't need another cellulite infested Yankee telling us how to run our beautiful State.

We don't need dirtbags like you turning us into another Illinois.... Crime-infested, filthy, corrupt and stupid.

Odds are good, however, that once fatass finds out that we don't have an Income Tax, he'll change his domicile to here.

Great. Just fucking great. If so, at least stay on the East Coast of Florida. It's already going to shit.

What are you talking about? We're on the same side!! We belong to the group that doesn't give a shit about dead children as long as we have the right to pack our guns around. And if you place dead kids over our gun rights then you're nothing but a commie loving socialist.

Once kids reach the age of at least 13 they should even have the right to carry in school because nothing in the Constitution says that kids don't have the same Constitutional Rights as everyone else.

Agreed?

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You are a scumbag

 

[Plasmaball]

for crying out loud this has already been posted

He's not some politician and can say whatever he wants and you all need something to bitch about it had to be posted twice

you look pathetic and hard up

hey did you know James Carney stepped down? I only knew because there was 6 threads on it.

 

[Plasmaball]

Dead kids are just collateral damage to our second amendment rights

More kids are killed by abortions every day.. So if you care about kids then then you would be against abortions.

durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

[Brain357]

That list is widely available, but I must say, thanks for proving my point.

You first tell us how in the world countries that have outright bans on guns could experience high murder rates, then we'll talk about comparing countries.

Until then, your calls to impede legal firearm ownership are based purely on emotional nonsense.

Coward

Yep, as usual, when you can't respond with logic and reason, resort to the fallacy of ad hominem.

What is cowardly is cherry picking data to suit your bias. It's easy:

Let's take Norway, your beloved DISARMED Scandinavian utopia. Norway has a population of just over 5 million people with a murder rate of 2.2 per 100,000.

The state of Minnesota has one of the highest firearm ownership rates in the US. It has just over 5 million citizens...and would you look at this, a murder rate of 1.8 per 100,000...LOWER THAN NORWAY!

How in the world is that possible????

You lose asshole

FBI ? Table 4

FBI ? Table 4

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What year stat are you using for Norway? They are typically much lower like I have seen .6. Is that from the year they had the mass shooting?

 

[Brain357]

Rather than argue from emotion, iignorance anf/or dishonesty, why don'y you respond to what he said with substance?

Given that of the 300,000,000 guns in the US, <0.0028% are used to murder someone, you'll have a tough time.

So that is why every gun owner buys so many guns...

 

[jknowgood]

Mexico has some serious gun control laws and look where it's got them. I've got to side with the plumber here although I think he just does this for publicity.

At it got them is smuggled guns from gun Mecca United States

We have 300 million guns, plenty to share with Mexico

Obama shared some with them, cost lives too. You don't care about that killing though.

 

[blackhawk]

Did anyone actually bother to read the letter he wrote?
AN OPEN LETTER: To the parents of the victims murdered by Elliot Rodger | BarbWire.com

 

[rightwinger]

Mexico has some serious gun control laws and look where it's got them. I've got to side with the plumber here although I think he just does this for publicity.

At it got them is smuggled guns from gun Mecca United States

We have 300 million guns, plenty to share with Mexico

Obama shared some with them, cost lives too. You don't care about that killing though.

Obama never gave them any guns

Those guns were bought in gun lover haven Arizona

 

[jknowgood]

At it got them is smuggled guns from gun Mecca United States

We have 300 million guns, plenty to share with Mexico

Obama shared some with them, cost lives too. You don't care about that killing though.

Obama never gave them any guns

Those guns were bought in gun lover haven Arizona

Like I said those murders mean nothing to you, because your messiah's hands are dirty.

 

[rightwinger]

Dead kids pale in comparison to our mighty second amendment

 

[rightwinger]

Obama shared some with them, cost lives too. You don't care about that killing though.

Obama never gave them any guns

Those guns were bought in gun lover haven Arizona

Like I said those murders mean nothing to you, because your messiah's hands are dirty.

Fast and furious is a monument to the second amendment

 

[Pete7469]

You tell him Joe!! Who gives a fuck about anyone's dead kids when I feel it's EVERYONES unfettered Constitutional Right to carry a gun around. And I don't just mean concealed, I mean OPENLY carrying.

Dead kids are just the price we pay for our freedom. Collateral damage if you will. And anyone who disagrees with that is just an unpatriotic commie that hates America.

'Joe the Plumber' an out-of-touch gun 'extremist,' says Sandy Hook principal's daughter

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Who gives a fuck about 100 million+ dead victims of marxist despotic regimes over the course of the last century?

We have 100 million conservatives in this country that need to be disarmed and killed!!!

Zieg Heil Obama motherfucker.

Choke on something and die.

 

[Antares]

Coward

Yep, as usual, when you can't respond with logic and reason, resort to the fallacy of ad hominem.

What is cowardly is cherry picking data to suit your bias. It's easy:

Let's take Norway, your beloved DISARMED Scandinavian utopia. Norway has a population of just over 5 million people with a murder rate of 2.2 per 100,000.

The state of Minnesota has one of the highest firearm ownership rates in the US. It has just over 5 million citizens...and would you look at this, a murder rate of 1.8 per 100,000...LOWER THAN NORWAY!

How in the world is that possible????

You lose asshole

FBI ? Table 4

FBI ? Table 4

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

LOL....and you bring up Cherry Picking?

Norway has a murder rate of 2.2 while the rate in the US is TWICE that?

You pick ONE state with a slightly lower murder rate and think you made a point?

Just for the sake of clarification, were you, Joe and Goose going to come and take our weapons?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

You tell him Joe!! Who gives a fuck about anyone's dead kids when I feel it's EVERYONES unfettered Constitutional Right to carry a gun around. And I don't just mean concealed, I mean OPENLY carrying.

Dead kids are just the price we pay for our freedom. Collateral damage if you will. And anyone who disagrees with that is just an unpatriotic commie that hates America.

'Joe the Plumber' an out-of-touch gun 'extremist,' says Sandy Hook principal's daughter

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The truth hurts, doesn't it?

 

[Pete7469]

At it got them is smuggled guns from gun Mecca United States

We have 300 million guns, plenty to share with Mexico

Obama shared some with them, cost lives too. You don't care about that killing though.

Obama never gave them any guns

Those guns were bought in gun lover haven Arizona

Maybe you're that retarded...

I don't know.

The gun dealers in AZ did their due diligence and called the BATFuckers who told them to let the transaction go.

That's what the F&F scandal was all about.

You might have missed it jerking off to Chris Mathews.

 

[jknowgood]

Obama never gave them any guns

Those guns were bought in gun lover haven Arizona

Like I said those murders mean nothing to you, because your messiah's hands are dirty.

Fast and furious is a monument to the second amendment

Obama's usual way of leading, total failure.

 

[eflatminor]

Yep, as usual, when you can't respond with logic and reason, resort to the fallacy of ad hominem.

What is cowardly is cherry picking data to suit your bias. It's easy:

Let's take Norway, your beloved DISARMED Scandinavian utopia. Norway has a population of just over 5 million people with a murder rate of 2.2 per 100,000.

The state of Minnesota has one of the highest firearm ownership rates in the US. It has just over 5 million citizens...and would you look at this, a murder rate of 1.8 per 100,000...LOWER THAN NORWAY!

How in the world is that possible????

You lose asshole

FBI ? Table 4

FBI ? Table 4

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

LOL....and you bring up Cherry Picking?

Norway has a murder rate of 2.2 while the rate in the US is TWICE that?

You pick ONE state with a slightly lower murder rate and think you made a point?

How about Denmark at .9?

Thus demonstrating the futility of cherry picking stats among random geographies. Thank you. Not many murders in Denmark, who have no 2nd amendment rights, but quite a bite more in Norway. Over in Minnesota, whose citizens have among the highest firearm ownership rate in the world, we see more murders than Denmark, less than Norway. Head down to disarmed Mexico and murders are rampant...same for the south side of Chicago. A few miles north in other Chicago neighborhoods, hardly any murders.

When you look at the big picture and not just isolated examples, it becomes clear that the problem of murder is not firearms, but people willing to kill others. So please, stop with the feel good nonsense of attempting to restrict the means of law abiding citizens to defend themselves. Your intentions may be true, but the actual results wrongheaded.