Yes Obama there should be a religious test

[ScreamingEagle]

first of all.... it is required by law to take religion into account because it plays a part in the assimilation factor...

for example....if your religion tells you that if you leave the Islamic faith you should be killed....this is not acceptable in the USA.....our laws do not permit killing anybody for leaving their religion....

so if you do not want to reject sharia law that is in conflict with American law and you don't want to assimilate......get the hell out of here...! there are plenty of Islamic countries that would be much better suited for you....

 

[ScreamingEagle]

This is what the 'constitutional professor' turned president said:
"When I hear political leaders suggesting that there would be a religious test for which a person who’s fleeing from a war-torn country is admitted … that’s shameful…. That’s not American. That’s not who we are. We don’t have religious tests to our compassion."

This is the facts:
Under federal law, the executive branch is expressly required to take religion into account in determining who is granted asylum. Under the provision governing asylum (section 1158 of Title 8, U.S. Code), an alien applying for admission must establish that … religion [among other things] … was or will be at least one central reason for persecuting the applicant.

Read more at: Barack Obama's Refugee Crisis Comments Show He Misreads the Law | National Review Online

 

[Syriusly]

first of all.... it is required by law to take religion into account because it plays a part in the assimilation factor....

What law- be specific.

 

[ScienceRocks]

small government by fucking ass!!!!!

Why not pave our roads, fund our schools, science institutions and keep our common sense regs? Oh'yesss, because I am a cave man and see that screwing over peoples rights of religion is more important.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

first of all.... it is required by law to take religion into account because it plays a part in the assimilation factor....

What law- be specific.

section 1158 of Title 8, U.S. Code

 

[ScreamingEagle]

there is no right to emigrate to the United States of America.....we should not throw away our values just to be compassionate to people who are in conflict with our values and beliefs and laws....

 

[NYcarbineer]

first of all.... it is required by law to take religion into account because it plays a part in the assimilation factor...

for example....if your religion tells you that if you leave the Islamic faith you should be killed....this is not acceptable in the USA.....our laws do not permit killing anybody for leaving their religion....

so if you do not want to reject sharia law that is in conflict with American law and you don't want to assimilate......get the hell out of here...! there are plenty of Islamic countries that would be much better suited for you....

Since ISIS is killing more Muslims than non-Muslims, why does being Muslim in Syria or Iraq make one LESS a victim of what's going on over there?

 

[NYcarbineer]

there is no right to emigrate to the United States of America.....we should not throw away our values just to be compassionate to people who are in conflict with our values and beliefs and laws....

Our values and laws are supposed to include the tolerance of faiths other than Christian.

 

[Sallow]

first of all.... it is required by law to take religion into account because it plays a part in the assimilation factor....

What law- be specific.

section 1158 of Title 8, U.S. Code

You're misreading the law.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

first of all.... it is required by law to take religion into account because it plays a part in the assimilation factor...

for example....if your religion tells you that if you leave the Islamic faith you should be killed....this is not acceptable in the USA.....our laws do not permit killing anybody for leaving their religion....

so if you do not want to reject sharia law that is in conflict with American law and you don't want to assimilate......get the hell out of here...! there are plenty of Islamic countries that would be much better suited for you....

Since ISIS is killing more Muslims than non-Muslims, why does being Muslim in Syria or Iraq make one LESS a victim of what's going on over there?

there are all kinds of warring factions in Syria.....many if not most of the young male refugees may be muslim fighters looking for a place to escape to....how do you know they are all 'innocent victims'....?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

there is no right to emigrate to the United States of America.....we should not throw away our values just to be compassionate to people who are in conflict with our values and beliefs and laws....

Our values and laws are supposed to include the tolerance of faiths other than Christian.

not if they are anti-American.....we don't let in Communists or Fascists do we....?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

first of all.... it is required by law to take religion into account because it plays a part in the assimilation factor....

What law- be specific.

section 1158 of Title 8, U.S. Code

You're misreading the law.

Obama said religion should not matter....the law says it does....

 

[hazlnut]

first of all.... it is required by law to take religion into account because it plays a part in the assimilation factor...

for example....if your religion tells you that if you leave the Islamic faith you should be killed....this is not acceptable in the USA.....our laws do not permit killing anybody for leaving their religion....

so if you do not want to reject sharia law that is in conflict with American law and you don't want to assimilate......get the hell out of here...! there are plenty of Islamic countries that would be much better suited for you....

What law - please site the law....

 

[hazlnut]

Obama said religion should not matter....the law says it does....

Please prove that.

Quote the text of the law and name the law.

 

[Stephanie]

that's why they tried to hide Obama's religion. If the people actually knew what Wright's teachings really were about. and it's damn sure wasn't a religion of peaceful means. research Black Liberation and you'll see where we are in the country today under the thug Obama

 

[AceRothstein]

first of all.... it is required by law to take religion into account because it plays a part in the assimilation factor....

What law- be specific.

section 1158 of Title 8, U.S. Code

You're misreading the law.

Obama said religion should not matter....the law says it does....

No, it does not.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

that's why they tried to hide Obama's religion. If the people actually knew what Wright's teachings really were about. and it's damn sure wasn't a religion of peaceful means. research Black Liberation and you'll see where we are in the country today under the thug Obama

you bet....i've ranted about his BL ties in the past.....frankly i think Obama is first a marxist and second a muslim......but the two have alot in common...

 

[Syriusly]

first of all.... it is required by law to take religion into account because it plays a part in the assimilation factor....

What law- be specific.

section 1158 of Title 8, U.S. Code

Not seeing it anywhere there.

Religion is mentioned 4 times

Not here:

(A) Safe third country


Paragraph (1) shall not apply to an alien if the Attorney General determines that the alien may be removed, pursuant to a bilateral or multilateral agreement, to a country (other than the country of the alien’s nationality or, in the case of an alien having no nationality, the country of the alien’s last habitual residence) in which the alien’s life or freedom would not be threatened on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion, and where the alien would have access to a full and fair procedure for determining a claim to asylum or equivalent temporary protection, unless the Attorney General finds that it is in the public interest for the alien to receive asylum in the United States.

Here religion is a factor in determining whether an applicant is eligible for asylum- for instance if a Muslim was being persecuted by ISIS based upon believing the "wrong version"of Islam

(i) In general


The burden of proof is on the applicant to establish that the applicant is a refugee, within the meaning of section 1101(a)(42)(A) of this title. To establish that the applicant is a refugee within the meaning of such section, the applicant must establish that race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion was or will be at least one central reason for persecuting the applicant.

Here it says an alien will not be granted asylum if he participated in persecution of persons

(i)
the alien ordered, incited, assisted, or otherwise participated in the persecution of any person on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion;

And here is a mention on how an alien can be removed

(C)
the alien may be removed, pursuant to a bilateral or multilateral agreement, to a country (other than the country of the alien’s nationality or, in the case of an alien having no nationality, the country of the alien’s last habitual residence) in which the alien’s life or freedom would not be threatened on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion, and where the alien is eligible to receive asylum or equivalent temporary protection;

Nowhere does the law say what you claim it says.

So were you lying, or just mislead?

 

[Syriusly]

there is no right to emigrate to the United States of America.....we should not throw away our values just to be compassionate to people who are in conflict with our values and beliefs and laws....

Our values and laws are supposed to include the tolerance of faiths other than Christian.

not if they are anti-American.....we don't let in Communists or Fascists do we....?

Why do you think we do not allow Communists into the United States?

There is no law against being a Communist in the United States.

 

[Syriusly]

first of all.... it is required by law to take religion into account because it plays a part in the assimilation factor....

What law- be specific.

section 1158 of Title 8, U.S. Code

You're misreading the law.

Obama said religion should not matter....the law says it does....

Here is what Obama actually said:

“When I hear political leaders suggesting that there should be a religious test for admitting which person fleeing which country,” Obama said, “when some of these folks themselves come from other countries, that’s shameful.


“That’s not America. That’s not who we are. We don’t have religious tests to our compassion.”

The law says that persecution because of a persons religion can be a reason to grant asylum.

It doesn't say anything about excluding asylum seekers because of their religion

Whether a Syrian is fleeing because he is a Christian being persecuted by ISIS for his religion- or a Syrian being persecuted by ISIS for being the wrong kind of Muslim- both are religious persecutions- both apply under the asylum law.