Would you Use a Coat Hanger in a Back Alley if Abortion were Outlawed?

[Anguille]

Planned Parenthood: Keeping the Negro population in check for almost 100 years.

"We don't want the word out that we want to exterminate the Negro population..."
Margaret Sanger
Founder, Planned Parenthood

If any of that were in the least bit true, Sanger would be the right wing's hero.

Oh... That's Adorable... Trying to Deflect your Baby Killing Racist Hero's Words on to those who don't Support the Killing of Babies, REGARDLESS of Color:

Read away, Shitstain:

http://www.gateway.org/content/pdf/quotes.pdf



peace...

First of all, your link to GateWay Prenancy Center's webpage does NOT display xsited1's invented quote.

Second of all, Gateway Pregnancy Centers are rabidly anti-choice as is evidenced by their many claims to be:
"The vehicle that God has provided to share His message

• Biblically Pro-Choice? No Way!"

Gateway Pregnancy Centers   (973)399-8378

So you still need to provide evidence that Margaret Sanger ever said what xsited1 claims she said.

And you will need to provide evidence from a reliable source, not whacko fundmantalist forced birther websites.

Thank you.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Planned Parenthood: Keeping the Negro population in check for almost 100 years.

"We don't want the word out that we want to exterminate the Negro population..."
Margaret Sanger
Founder, Planned Parenthood

If any of that were in the least bit true, Sanger would be the right wing's hero.

Oh... That's Adorable... Trying to Deflect your Baby Killing Racist Hero's Words on to those who don't Support the Killing of Babies, REGARDLESS of Color:

Read away, Shitstain:

http://www.gateway.org/content/pdf/quotes.pdf



peace...

hmmmmmm, a right wing-nut using distortion, deceit, and deception to dishonestly attach the motives of third parties onto opponents...hmmm...

eugenics knew no political party or ideology. eugenics was embraced by a wide spectrum of AMERICANS, of varying agendas and motives. MANY were well meanong christians.

 

[Meister]

Without reading every post here, the feds would refer the abortion issue to the states. It should never had been at the federal level in the first place.
Has anyone ever heard of putting the baby up for adoption, or is that too much of a dinosaur concept in this day and in this age?

Having said that, I do believe in abortions with special circumstances:
1. Where inception was the result of a rape.
2. The mother's life is at risk.

 

[mal]

I'd Use a Candlestick in the Library...



peace...

 

[Luissa]

I'd Use a Candlestick in the Library...



peace...

You make it very hard to like you sometimes.

 

[mal]

I'd Use a Candlestick in the Library...



peace...

You make it very hard to like you sometimes.

Boo Boo Kitty Fuck...

Merry Christmas, Luissa...

It was a "Clue" Joke, if you didn't get it...



peace...

 

[Luissa]

oh! I got it!

 

[xsited1]

Unplanned Parenthood Hates Minorities.



peace...

Planned Parenthood: Keeping the Negro population in check for almost 100 years.

"We don't want the word out that we want to exterminate the Negro population..."
Margaret Sanger
Founder, Planned Parenthood

If any of that were in the least bit true, Sanger would be the right wing's hero.

Unfortunately, there is a lot of truth to it. Just look at my original post:

Report: Planned Parenthood Apologizes for Encouraging Donation Aimed at Aborting Black Babies - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com

The Founder of PP supported negative eugenics. It's also interesting that PP is in the abortion business and used to (they may still do) provide condoms that were the most unreliable on the market. More pregnancies, more abortions, more money. And now that the Democrats have the Hispanic vote, they'll need the black vote less and less.

 

[Anguille]

So she would have rather aborted? I think women who give up their babies to loving families that can't haave them are the bravest, most selfless people on earth. They are not given enough recognition.

Yes. She said that everytime she read in the news about a child that had been abused or murdered by it's parent she worried that it was the child she gave away. She felt terrible she had not done the right thing and aborted.

I could never abbandon a baby. Though I realize that often women find themselves in unforseen circumstances where they must put up their child for addoption and I have sympathy for them, but I have no respect for those irresponsible ones that go through with a pregnancy knowing they have no intention of ever caring for the child.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Would you Use a Coat Hanger in a Back Alley if Abortion were Outlawed?

Just Heard that Old Canard on Err Amerika as I was Enjoy the Incessant Whining of the Left about their Heretic Former Messiah and his Party's Failure to Deliver them the Socialism they Demand.

So my Question is Simple...

Let's say Abortion is Outlawed, you get Pregnant and you don't want the Child... Would you Use a Coat Hanger in a Back Alley if that was your only Option as these Dishonest and Abjectly Hysterical Liberals on Err Amerika are Eluding to?

Why don't you ask that of all the women who did chose to do that?

No surprise that you would make a poll asking who would have an abortion a public poll.

If abortion were outlawed today and I needed one, these day there are safer ways available to women with the means to obtain them. But if I was desperate enough and a coat hanger were my only option, I'd use it.

All WHAT women? In all the years I've heard leftists blathering about the apocryphal "coathanger abortions", I have yet to have someone pointed out to me who actually had one.

 

[Cecilie1200]

If I were a Republican, back in the day, I would send my pregnant daughter off to a boarding house for wonton women who shamed their parents, and tell all my elitist friends at the Yacht Club that she's gone to Europe for a year to study at Sorbonne. The child would be adopted and never mentioned again.

That is what happened to a life friend of mine after the 8th grade. We saw her again in the 10th grade. She went to a very ritzy place run by joyless women for "shameless" young girls. She never saw her daughter after she left the place. Still, she thinks of her every day, even more than forty years later.

Similar thing happened to a woman I used to know. As a teenager she was talked out of an abortion and talked into leaving school for six months. They allowed her to see but not touch the baby she gave birth to. She said it had haunted her all her life.

Whereas killing the same child would have been totally forgettable. And, of course, it would have been much better for that baby to have died than for her mother to have been unhappy about her being alive somewhere. Yes?

 

[Anguille]

Would you Use a Coat Hanger in a Back Alley if Abortion were Outlawed?

Just Heard that Old Canard on Err Amerika as I was Enjoy the Incessant Whining of the Left about their Heretic Former Messiah and his Party's Failure to Deliver them the Socialism they Demand.

So my Question is Simple...

Let's say Abortion is Outlawed, you get Pregnant and you don't want the Child... Would you Use a Coat Hanger in a Back Alley if that was your only Option as these Dishonest and Abjectly Hysterical Liberals on Err Amerika are Eluding to?

Why don't you ask that of all the women who did chose to do that?

No surprise that you would make a poll asking who would have an abortion a public poll.

If abortion were outlawed today and I needed one, these day there are safer ways available to women with the means to obtain them. But if I was desperate enough and a coat hanger were my only option, I'd use it.

All WHAT women? In all the years I've heard leftists blathering about the apocryphal "coathanger abortions", I have yet to have someone pointed out to me who actually had one.

As if anyone would point out to you, especially someone like you, someone who had suffered through a coat hanger abortion.

Remember also. Many did not survive them.

Sounds like you're suggesting dangerous back alley abortions never happened in the days before abortion went back to being legal.

 

[Anguille]

A friend of mine's grandmother died from a back alley abortion. Married to a drunk who kept raping her, she couldn't bear the thought of having a 10th child. She got septicemia fand died, leaving 9 children orphaned.

 

[Anguille]

That is what happened to a life friend of mine after the 8th grade. We saw her again in the 10th grade. She went to a very ritzy place run by joyless women for "shameless" young girls. She never saw her daughter after she left the place. Still, she thinks of her every day, even more than forty years later.

Similar thing happened to a woman I used to know. As a teenager she was talked out of an abortion and talked into leaving school for six months. They allowed her to see but not touch the baby she gave birth to. She said it had haunted her all her life.

Whereas killing the same child would have been totally forgettable. And, of course, it would have been much better for that baby to have died than for her mother to have been unhappy about her being alive somewhere. Yes?

A fetus is not a child or a baby.

 

[Cecilie1200]

If any of that were in the least bit true, Sanger would be the right wing's hero.

Oh... That's Adorable... Trying to Deflect your Baby Killing Racist Hero's Words on to those who don't Support the Killing of Babies, REGARDLESS of Color:

Read away, Shitstain:

http://www.gateway.org/content/pdf/quotes.pdf



peace...

First of all, your link to GateWay Prenancy Center's webpage does NOT display xsited1's invented quote.

Second of all, Gateway Pregnancy Centers are rabidly anti-choice as is evidenced by their many claims to be:
"The vehicle that God has provided to share His message

• Biblically Pro-Choice? No Way!"

Gateway Pregnancy Centers * (973)399-8378

So you still need to provide evidence that Margaret Sanger ever said what xsited1 claims she said.

And you will need to provide evidence from a reliable source, not whacko fundmantalist forced birther websites.

Thank you.

Let me take care of that for you. Here is the entire quote:

"We do not want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten that idea out if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." The source is a letter she wrote in 1939 to Dr. Clarence Gamble, the Procter & Gamble heir, who served as the Birth Control Federation of America's Southern regional director. The letter is part of the Margaret Sanger Collection in the Library of Congress. Please feel free to verify as you will.

 

[Cecilie1200]

So she would have rather aborted? I think women who give up their babies to loving families that can't haave them are the bravest, most selfless people on earth. They are not given enough recognition.

Yes. She said that everytime she read in the news about a child that had been abused or murdered by it's parent she worried that it was the child she gave away. She felt terrible she had not done the right thing and aborted.

I could never abbandon a baby. Though I realize that often women find themselves in unforseen circumstances where they must put up their child for addoption and I have sympathy for them, but I have no respect for those irresponsible ones that go through with a pregnancy knowing they have no intention of ever caring for the child.

So let me get this straight. She felt that because she was so worried about the child being abused, that she should have killed him instead? Your friend is a moron. Case closed.

 

[Luissa]

I love when you guys always use that one to back up your arguement.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Why don't you ask that of all the women who did chose to do that?

No surprise that you would make a poll asking who would have an abortion a public poll.

If abortion were outlawed today and I needed one, these day there are safer ways available to women with the means to obtain them. But if I was desperate enough and a coat hanger were my only option, I'd use it.

All WHAT women? In all the years I've heard leftists blathering about the apocryphal "coathanger abortions", I have yet to have someone pointed out to me who actually had one.

As if anyone would point out to you, especially someone like you, someone who had suffered through a coat hanger abortion.

Remember also. Many did not survive them.

Sounds like you're suggesting dangerous back alley abortions never happened in the days before abortion went back to being legal.

Uh huh. "There are whole boatsful of them, but we're not telling YOU, you big meanie. Just believe us!"

Or maybe I'll just believe that you're a lying sack.

Do I think that ignorant women occasionally did incredibly stupid and dangerous things to themselves? Sure. Do I think that I'm in any way obliged to care about those women? About as much as you feel obliged to care about millions of innocent babies dying every year. And no, I don't believe in "coathanger abortions", and can't think of a single reason on Earth that I would believe anything that any of your ilk says without reams and reams of proof, because frankly, I find you people less trustworthy than your average used care salesman.

What I DO know is that the VAST majority of abortions performed before Roe v. Wade were performed by duly licensed medical doctors who simply fudged the truth. So if some halfwit slut decided to risk her life instead of finding one of these guys, well . . . let's just say they would have to invent new technology to measure my indifference. My sympathy is and always will be with the completely innocent people dying in much, MUCH greater numbers now.

 

[Cecilie1200]

A friend of mine's grandmother died from a back alley abortion. Married to a drunk who kept raping her, she couldn't bear the thought of having a 10th child. She got septicemia fand died, leaving 9 children orphaned.

Yeah, killing her own ass with a "back alley abortion" was the only option she had.

Could you people PLEASE spare me the melodramatic "Little Match Girl" sob stories?

You got one woman. I'm still on the side of the millions of dead babies. Call me when these "back alley abortion deaths" get anywhere near that total.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Similar thing happened to a woman I used to know. As a teenager she was talked out of an abortion and talked into leaving school for six months. They allowed her to see but not touch the baby she gave birth to. She said it had haunted her all her life.

Whereas killing the same child would have been totally forgettable. And, of course, it would have been much better for that baby to have died than for her mother to have been unhappy about her being alive somewhere. Yes?

A fetus is not a child or a baby.

Thank you, Dr. Schweizer. I can't decide if you're more ignorant in biology or vocabulary on this statement. I do know you're a dumbass if you think your blank assertion on the subject carries the weight of a puff of warm hydrogen with me.