Would you Use a Coat Hanger in a Back Alley if Abortion were Outlawed?

Would you Use a Coat Hanger in a Back Alley if Abortion were Outlawed?

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A friend of mine's grandmother died from a back alley abortion. Married to a drunk who kept raping her, she couldn't bear the thought of having a 10th child. She got septicemia fand died, leaving 9 children orphaned.

I LOVE Anecdotes... Exxxxxxxxxxxspecially ones of other People's Extended and Distant Family.

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peace...
 
Oh... That's Adorable... Trying to Deflect your Baby Killing Racist Hero's Words on to those who don't Support the Killing of Babies, REGARDLESS of Color:

Read away, Shitstain:

http://www.gateway.org/content/pdf/quotes.pdf

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peace...
First of all, your link to GateWay Prenancy Center's webpage does NOT display xsited1's invented quote.

Second of all, Gateway Pregnancy Centers are rabidly anti-choice as is evidenced by their many claims to be:

"The vehicle that God has provided to share His message
Gateway Pregnancy Centers * (973)399-8378

So you still need to provide evidence that Margaret Sanger ever said what xsited1 claims she said.

And you will need to provide evidence from a reliable source, not whacko fundmantalist forced birther websites.

Thank you.

Let me take care of that for you. Here is the entire quote:

"We do not want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten that idea out if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." The source is a letter she wrote in 1939 to Dr. Clarence Gamble, the Procter & Gamble heir, who served as the Birth Control Federation of America's Southern regional director. The letter is part of the Margaret Sanger Collection in the Library of Congress. Please feel free to verify as you will.
Don't you think your post would be more believable if you didn't avoid verifying it yourself?

If indeed the quote is legitimate, it's nonetheless ambiguous. It does not show that was her purpose, it only shows that she did not want her mission to be perceived that way. "Straighten that idea out" further implies that it was not her aim to exterminate Negros but that some would try to falsely claim it was.
 
So she would have rather aborted? I think women who give up their babies to loving families that can't haave them are the bravest, most selfless people on earth. They are not given enough recognition.
Yes. She said that everytime she read in the news about a child that had been abused or murdered by it's parent she worried that it was the child she gave away. She felt terrible she had not done the right thing and aborted.

I could never abbandon a baby. Though I realize that often women find themselves in unforseen circumstances where they must put up their child for addoption and I have sympathy for them, but I have no respect for those irresponsible ones that go through with a pregnancy knowing they have no intention of ever caring for the child.

So let me get this straight. She felt that because she was so worried about the child being abused, that she should have killed him instead? Your friend is a moron. Case closed.

You are the moron and you do not have it straight. She never said she wished she had killed her newborn. She wishes she had had the abortion instead of going through with the pregnancy.

I love how when you are wrong you make some asinine statement and then declare, "Case closed".
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A friend of mine's grandmother died from a back alley abortion. Married to a drunk who kept raping her, she couldn't bear the thought of having a 10th child. She got septicemia fand died, leaving 9 children orphaned.

Yeah, killing her own ass with a "back alley abortion" was the only option she had.

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Apparently it was. She was living in the slums of Pittsburg.

Sounds like you are fine with women getting abortions who could afford to bribe a doctor or travel to a place where they were legal. It's only poor women whose abortions you condemn.
 
Yes. She said that everytime she read in the news about a child that had been abused or murdered by it's parent she worried that it was the child she gave away. She felt terrible she had not done the right thing and aborted.

I could never abbandon a baby. Though I realize that often women find themselves in unforseen circumstances where they must put up their child for addoption and I have sympathy for them, but I have no respect for those irresponsible ones that go through with a pregnancy knowing they have no intention of ever caring for the child.

So let me get this straight. She felt that because she was so worried about the child being abused, that she should have killed him instead? Your friend is a moron. Case closed.

You are the moron and you do not have it straight. She never said she wished she had killed her newborn. She wishes she had had the abortion instead of going through with the pregnancy.

I love how when you are wrong you make some asinine statement and then declare, "Case closed".
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I never said she wished she'd killed him as a newborn. I said she wished she'd killed him so she wouldn't have to "suffer" not knowing what happened to him. That's what having an abortion means: killing a baby.

And I have another statement for you: aside from killing him for her own convenience, the most abusive thing she could have done to that child was to keep him in her life. She can rest easy in the assurance that however bad his adoptive parents are, they'd have to go a long way to be worse for him than an ignorant, self-absorbed twit like her.
 
It will not be outlawed. But mal is right that the old "back alley coat hanger" argument is pretty fucking lame. As Bones, noted - they have pills.

I think the hypothetical argument provides for the pill... And any other legal means... Being outlawed as well as the surgical procedure.
 
Cecelie1200 appears to have a stone-cold heart on this subject. She does not understand that he own moral viewpoint remains very warped because of whatever she endured or not earlier. I am sorry for that, but other women have the right not to let a threat her own health or life be endangered by a pregnancy. Moral sense tells us that.
 
What about the unborn child? Oh yeah....they can't vote. :eusa_whistle:

Meister, abortion is ok in case of life or health dangers to the women, or in case of incest, or in case of rape? Are we in agreement with these limitations?

Can you give me one example of an Abortion that was done to Save a Woman's Life?...

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peace...

Well, if the woman was having an ectopic pregnancy, then it would have to be ended to keep from killing her. I don't think those actually get counted in the abortion stats, though. And, of course, the baby is doomed in that case, whatever happens.

There are a number of conditions and problems that can develop during a pregnancy that might be serious enough to warrant possibly ending the pregnancy. Hypothyroidism, for example, can cause eclampsia or congestive heart failure. Obviously, eclampsia would be another one, which is severe hypertension during the pregnancy, which can lead to kidney or liver damage, or even cerebral hemorrhage. Once eclampsia is diagnosed, you pretty much either abort or deliver, depending on the circumstances.

I'm sure there are others.

Usually, when the mother's life and health are in danger, it's not from the pregnancy itself, but from something else, and the pregnancy somehow interferes with the treatment of that problem. Say, for example, a pregnant woman who develops an aggressively malignant tumor and needs chemo or radiation therapy, which would harm or kill the unborn child, but endangers her if she waits until after the birth.
 
Would you Use a Coat Hanger in a Back Alley if Abortion were Outlawed?

Just Heard that Old Canard on Err Amerika as I was Enjoy the Incessant Whining of the Left about their Heretic Former Messiah and his Party's Failure to Deliver them the Socialism they Demand. :rofl:

So my Question is Simple...

Let's say Abortion is Outlawed, you get Pregnant and you don't want the Child... Would you Use a Coat Hanger in a Back Alley if that was your only Option as these Dishonest and Abjectly Hysterical Liberals on Err Amerika are Eluding to?

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peace...

I'd have the money to go where it's legal.

you're just screwing people too young and too poor to do so.
 
The proverbial coathanger in the proverbial back alley isn't meant to be taken literally, I think. The underlying point is, making it illegal will introduce a greater amount of health risks to the woman who needs it bad enough. Personally, I suspect that for the more rabid social conservatives, the increased risk to those womens' health is an acceptable trade-off for the symbolic victory of a Roe v Wade overturn.
 
The proverbial coathanger in the proverbial back alley isn't meant to be taken literally, I think. The underlying point is, making it illegal will introduce a greater amount of health risks to the woman who needs it bad enough. Personally, I suspect that for the more rabid social conservatives, the increased risk to those womens' health is an acceptable trade-off for the symbolic victory of a Roe v Wade overturn.

So 10's of Millions of Babies that have been Executed since Roe were Justified because of the Possibility of Death to the Mother for a TINY percentage, or the idea that Women would do Dangerous things to get the Inconvenience out of them?...

Noted.

:)

peace...
 
Would you Use a Coat Hanger in a Back Alley if Abortion were Outlawed?

Just Heard that Old Canard on Err Amerika as I was Enjoy the Incessant Whining of the Left about their Heretic Former Messiah and his Party's Failure to Deliver them the Socialism they Demand. :rofl:

So my Question is Simple...

Let's say Abortion is Outlawed, you get Pregnant and you don't want the Child... Would you Use a Coat Hanger in a Back Alley if that was your only Option as these Dishonest and Abjectly Hysterical Liberals on Err Amerika are Eluding to?

:)

peace...

I'd have the money to go where it's legal.

you're just screwing people too young and too poor to do so.

Abortion is Birth Control then, Correct?...

:)

peace...
 
The proverbial coathanger in the proverbial back alley isn't meant to be taken literally, I think. The underlying point is, making it illegal will introduce a greater amount of health risks to the woman who needs it bad enough. Personally, I suspect that for the more rabid social conservatives, the increased risk to those womens' health is an acceptable trade-off for the symbolic victory of a Roe v Wade overturn.

So 10's of Millions of Babies that have been Executed since Roe were Justified because of the Possibility of Death to the Mother for a TINY percentage, or the idea that Women would do Dangerous things to get the Inconvenience out of them?...

Noted.

:)

peace...



I'm not 100% sure if you're actually asking me an honest question, or if that's a rhetorical trick so you can try and restate my post in a way that's comfy for your preformed position and feewings on the topic.

I'll go with the latter. If it makes you feel better, go put a "abortion=genocide" bumpersticker on your car.
 

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