Would you? Could you?

[Big Black Dog]

If you voted for Obama in the last election, knowing what you know now about him, would you vote for him again if the election was tomorrow?

 

[Centrism'sVoice]

If it were still McCain/Palin on the R ticket, absolutely. No contest whatsoever.

 

[Modbert]

Is the poll public? Otherwise, the results will most likely be gamed.

 

[WillowTree]

funny as hell, no one owns up to voting for the DUmmie!

 

[Annie]

Obviously missing: I didn't vote for Obama.

 

[Centrism'sVoice]

Obviously missing: I didn't vote for Obama.

Agreed: people who didn't vote for him are obviously missing something.

 

[Coloradomtnman]

I would still vote for Obama, like Centrism's Voice put it. I would never have voted for a Republican unless that Republican was McCain in 2000 (before he became Bush's cronie). And I would NEVER have voted for a candidate like Palin, who was nothing more than a political gimmick and an election-strategy of a desperate campaign.

But, I am disappointed in the Obama administration. I would never have supported the corporate bailouts. I would never have supported health care reform as it is currently seemingly attempting to happen. I'm disappointed in his lack of support for homosexuals, as in continuing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell".

But what I'm most disappointed about is with the political backlash from the Right since his election, the Obama administration has weakened, and the US government and therfore its people have also been weakened. Democrats in Congress are flip-flopping. I'm disappointed with the way things have turned out, and I guess I shouldn't be because politics in the US are turds in a whirlpool that never quite goes down the toilet and I should've figured it out by now.

The Right-leaning atmosphere or environment of American politics makes it nearly impossible for a non-conservative President to get anything done. Just look at what Republicans did to Clinton. They never accept anyone but a Republican as President, and if someone other than a Republican gets into the Oval office, the GOP does everything it can to de-legitimize and discredit them. With Clinton there was Whitewater, then Paula Jones, then Monica Lewinski, the Starr report, blah blah blah. Petty shit that divided the country, and therefore necessarily weakened the country. When Obama was running for President the GOP played up that he "palled around with terrorists", that his minister said "Goddamn America", that Obama isn't a Christian, that he isn't even born a US citizen, they call him a marxist and a socialist even though he's not even close (I'm a socialist), that his middle name is Hussein big fucking xeno-Islamaphobic wah! Most Democrats backed the Patriot Bill. They supported the war in Afghanistan and Iraq despite the liberal outcry. In other words, the understood the importance, especially during a time of war and crisis, of supporting the President. They let go of the ideology to work for a common cause: the safety and security and strength of the American people even if its misguided. The GOP would never do that and, instead, will do their best to discredit the President, to divide the country, to undermine the President's authority and support, just to show that their way is the RIGHT way when really its just the ONLY way they'll accept, even if it means continuing the status quo.

Like when conservatives say that government programs don't work, so why should we fund them, and then when the government program doesn't work because its underfunded, Republicans exclaim, "See! I told ya!"

 

[Centrism'sVoice]

But what I'm most disappointed about is with the political backlash from the Right since his election, the Obama administration has weakened, and the US government and therfore its people have also been weakened.

CMM, I think you're giving the GOP machine way too much credit for the decline in the administrations clout and popularity. My take is that the voters were expecting Obama to make the economy bounce back in a few months - remember, most of them have the attention span of fleas, and besides, hardly anyone in this country knows squat about economics.

 

[MaggieMae]

If it were still McCain/Palin on the R ticket, absolutely. No contest whatsoever.

Republicans were doomed from the outset and should have tried harder to put a winning team together because during the campaign, I really thought Hillary would come out ahead of Obama and SHE is who they should have seen as their biggest adversary and therefore better prepared. When Obama began to pull ahead and finally won the nomination, there was no doubt that I would vote for him although I did think he lacked enough beltway experience for the job because he was making a lot of promises that he seemed to truly believe would be a piece of cake to realize. Sorry, but I anticipated how difficult it would be--especially on health care. So now he knows.

That said, Obama has proved to be completely outside any White House protective "bubble" and is on top of all of the major issues of the day, both domestic and foreign in spite of the bureaucrats and newshounds clamoring for a piece of him. You may not like his politics; you may not like his decisions, but he's no slacker. And he's proven to be Trumanesque in that the buck stops with him.

 

[Big Black Dog]

The Right-leaning atmosphere or environment of American politics makes it nearly impossible for a non-conservative President to get anything done

Oh, come on, Coloradomtnman... Surely you jest. The Democrats have complete control of both the House and the Senate. There isn't anything they can't pass into law if they so choose to do so. There isn't enough Republican resistance in either House of Congress to stop the Democrats from a pure old cake walk if that is what they desire. You can't blame any of Obama's short-comings on the Republicans or conservatives. He is loosing support from his own party because they are beginning to see him for what he is. If this stupid health care bill he is pushing so hard for doesn't make it into law the Democrats are going to run from him like rats on a sinking ship. The Democrats couldn't pass health care reform before because they wanted it to be government controlled. It isn't going to pass this time either because people don't want government controlled health care. I agree that reform is needed but the US government has absolutely no business in the health care business. It isn't something dictated by the Constitution. You can't hang Obama's failures on the Republicans. That shirt just doesn't fit.

 

[PoliticalChic]

If you voted for Obama in the last election, knowing what you know now about him, would you vote for him again if the election was tomorrow?

OMG-

Sorry, I thought this thread was about Green Eggs and Ham.

 

[Fatality]

Obviously missing: I didn't vote for Obama.

Agreed: people who didn't vote for him are obviously missing something.

yeah they are, their hard earned cash

 

[Coloradomtnman]

But what I'm most disappointed about is with the political backlash from the Right since his election, the Obama administration has weakened, and the US government and therfore its people have also been weakened.

CMM, I think you're giving the GOP machine way too much credit for the decline in the administrations clout and popularity. My take is that the voters were expecting Obama to make the economy bounce back in a few months - remember, most of them have the attention span of fleas, and besides, hardly anyone in this country knows squat about economics.

Yeah, I'll concede that. But I think the GOP machine is a contributing factor to the people's decline in their support of the POTUS. The GOP propagandizes things like "How long will the Obama Administration blame Bush?" when some of the current problems this nation faces like the withdrawal of troops from Iraq, the continuing fighting in Afghanistan (which, considering its Afghanistan, still might be the case even if it weren't for Iraq), are Bush's doing and his administration started those wars. The economy isn't any one POTUS's fault and I think its stupid that people think the POTUS really has that much influence over the economy. Things might've been worse if it hadn't been for the stimulus bill. Who knows? Nobody.

 

[Coloradomtnman]

Obviously missing: I didn't vote for Obama.

Agreed: people who didn't vote for him are obviously missing something.

yeah they are, their hard earned cash

Really? Have your taxes gone up because of recent federal bills passing into law?

 

[Oscar Wao]

But what I'm most disappointed about is with the political backlash from the Right since his election, the Obama administration has weakened, and the US government and therfore its people have also been weakened.

CMM, I think you're giving the GOP machine way too much credit for the decline in the administrations clout and popularity. My take is that the voters were expecting Obama to make the economy bounce back in a few months - remember, most of them have the attention span of fleas, and besides, hardly anyone in this country knows squat about economics.

...including Obama.

 

[Fatality]

But what I'm most disappointed about is with the political backlash from the Right since his election, the Obama administration has weakened, and the US government and therfore its people have also been weakened.

so based on your prattle people on the right are not Americans, or they have somehow weakened themselves by being so powerful as to weaken obama and the government? so if they as a tiny minority are so powerful how did they weaken themselves by having such imense power?


you must not even pay attention to what the fuck you say before you say it. get back on your mountain with the fucking billy goats

 

[MaggieMae]

The Right-leaning atmosphere or environment of American politics makes it nearly impossible for a non-conservative President to get anything done

Oh, come on, Coloradomtnman... Surely you jest. The Democrats have complete control of both the House and the Senate. There isn't anything they can't pass into law if they so choose to do so. There isn't enough Republican resistance in either House of Congress to stop the Democrats from a pure old cake walk if that is what they desire. You can't blame any of Obama's short-comings on the Republicans or conservatives. He is loosing support from his own party because they are beginning to see him for what he is. If this stupid health care bill he is pushing so hard for doesn't make it into law the Democrats are going to run from him like rats on a sinking ship. The Democrats couldn't pass health care reform before because they wanted it to be government controlled. It isn't going to pass this time either because people don't want government controlled health care. I agree that reform is needed but the US government has absolutely no business in the health care business. It isn't something dictated by the Constitution. You can't hang Obama's failures on the Republicans. That shirt just doesn't fit.

He's only losing support over the health care issue, and then only because people can't decide whether taking the chance that eventually it will be cost effective is worth the risk. If he loses on this one, it won't be so damaging as to render him a lame duck already, so I hope you don't bet the farm yet.

 

[MaggieMae]

If you voted for Obama in the last election, knowing what you know now about him, would you vote for him again if the election was tomorrow?

OMG-

Sorry, I thought this thread was about Green Eggs and Ham.

Is that a rock group?

 

[Alan Partridge]

The Right-leaning atmosphere or environment of American politics makes it nearly impossible for a non-conservative President to get anything done

Oh, come on, Coloradomtnman... Surely you jest. The Democrats have complete control of both the House and the Senate. There isn't anything they can't pass into law if they so choose to do so. There isn't enough Republican resistance in either House of Congress to stop the Democrats from a pure old cake walk if that is what they desire. You can't blame any of Obama's short-comings on the Republicans or conservatives. He is loosing support from his own party because they are beginning to see him for what he is. If this stupid health care bill he is pushing so hard for doesn't make it into law the Democrats are going to run from him like rats on a sinking ship. The Democrats couldn't pass health care reform before because they wanted it to be government controlled. It isn't going to pass this time either because people don't want government controlled health care. I agree that reform is needed but the US government has absolutely no business in the health care business. It isn't something dictated by the Constitution. You can't hang Obama's failures on the Republicans. That shirt just doesn't fit.

No, the dems can't force anything through because the dems need the two independents to go along with it. Leiberman won't do anything against the war.

 

[MaggieMae]

Obviously missing: I didn't vote for Obama.

Agreed: people who didn't vote for him are obviously missing something.

yeah they are, their hard earned cash

How have you lost money since Obama became president that was directly his fault. Shall I wait?