World beginning to relate to Israel now

[P F Tinmore]

World beginning to relate to Israel now

Indeed!

 

[Phoenall]

Europe is now having to deal with the same type of Islamist savages that Israel deals with on a regular basis. Israel is last on the list of their concerns. And with each terrorist event, they get even closer to Israel.

Europe is distancing itself more and more from Israel. Europe understands that the West's support for Israel is one of the causes of Muslim disaffection with Europe. Europe is not so stupid to believe that it is to their advantage to support a warmongering U.S. neo-colonial outpost in the Middle East of 6 million, when such support raises the ire of 1.6 billion people against Europe.

The Palestinians had to contend with the arrival of European hordes in much the same way the Muslim hordes are invading Europe. They were unable to stop the Jewish hordes from Europe and they lost their land. Maybe Europe will use that example to put a stop to Muslim migration.

They had another terror alert today in Geneva looking for four Muslim terrorists, it was announced today that the San Bernardino terrorist's best friend converted to Islam, and another arrest in Minnesota for a Somali Muslim animal trying to recruit Americans to go join ISIS in Syria. Europe is now beginning to feel exactly what the Israelis are up against. Same Islamic scum, different geographical location.

I don't know what this has to do with the I/P section, but describing Muslims as animals, particularly black Somalis is racist.

As I said, Europeans are beginning to realize that being associated with the U.S. and its unquestioning support for all of Israel's murderous actions is one of the components that fuels Muslim discontent in Europe.

I would not be so happy if I were you, even if you don't believe the facts, the increase in the Muslim population in Europe does not bode well for Israel.

And it has nothing at all to do with the fact that the muslims were kicked out of Europe starting in 1683 and lost all that lovely Islamic land and all those sex slaves and practice dummies. We in Europe know the truth because we are on the front line unlike you colonists that don't see the reality so cant relate to the violence. Maybe you should all charter planes to bring the millions of muslims wanting to leave the horn of Africa and M.E. to the US and give them land that they claim is theirs for a new Islamic state.

 

[Phoenall]

Were they not invading colonists?

No. You know damn well you're too smart to fall for such propaganda.

Propaganda? It seems it is you who have been brainwashed. The Zionists themselves did not hide their plan to colonize Palestine, as early as 1898.

NYT June 10, 1898

Zionists plan to colonize Palestine in 1899 NY Times - World Bulletin

Successful Jewish Colonization Will Extend Beyond Palestine Frontier

The contemplated trip to the United States of Dr. Chaim Weizmann, president of the World Zionist Organization, the continuation of his efforts while in America to extend the Jewish Agency through his negotiations with the Marshall group, the possibilities of extending Jewish colonization work outside of the present Palestine frontiers, including. Transjordania and certain parts of Syria, were the main features around which the deliberations centered.

Successful Jewish Colonization Will Extend Beyond Palestine Frontier, Weizmann Tells Actions Committ

Niether did the Vatican when it sent out all those heavily armed armies to plunder the New World of its riches and nubile women. Care to respond to these facts or are you just a coward who does not like being shown up as an idiot. The land that the Jews colonised was their own granted to them by the LoN in 1923, at the same time they granted 78% of Palestine to the arab muslims, so why did they invade Jewish Palestine ?

 

[Phoenall]

World beginning to relate to Israel now

Indeed!

How many years old is that video again ?

 

[P F Tinmore]

World beginning to relate to Israel now

Indeed!

How many years old is that video again ?

Last year.

This year.

 

[Phoenall]

Were they not invading colonists?

No. You know damn well you're too smart to fall for such propaganda.

Propaganda? It seems it is you who have been brainwashed. The Zionists themselves did not hide their plan to colonize Palestine, as early as 1898.

NYT June 10, 1898

Zionists plan to colonize Palestine in 1899 NY Times - World Bulletin

Successful Jewish Colonization Will Extend Beyond Palestine Frontier

The contemplated trip to the United States of Dr. Chaim Weizmann, president of the World Zionist Organization, the continuation of his efforts while in America to extend the Jewish Agency through his negotiations with the Marshall group, the possibilities of extending Jewish colonization work outside of the present Palestine frontiers, including. Transjordania and certain parts of Syria, were the main features around which the deliberations centered.

Successful Jewish Colonization Will Extend Beyond Palestine Frontier, Weizmann Tells Actions Committ

We have gone over this ad nauseam. They weren't invading anything. Arabs were selling Jews land long before the Zionists decided to "colonize" Palestine. That one critical detail always gets in the way of your argument.

Jewish land purchase in Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You are just spouting Zionist propaganda. There was hardly any land sold by Arabs to European Jews prior to 1898.

In fact, as late 1943 Non-Jews owned about 95% of the land in Palestine. 24 million dunums versus 1.5 million dunums.

Wikipedia is edited by Hasbara daily. It has no credibility.

View attachment 56641

http://www.bjpa.org/Publications/downloadFile.cfm?FileID=17185

From the Survey of Palestine Vol. 2 page 566 archived at the Berman Jewish Policy Archive at NYU.

The fictional novel again that was sold by the committee of anti semitics and paid for arab enablers

 

[Phoenall]

In fact, as late 1943 Non-Jews owned about 95% of the land in Palestine.

I still don't see the link between this and the Zionists being "colonial invaders."

What part of colonizing an inhabited land, evicting the natives and then taking over do you not understand? Of course the Zionists were colonial invaders, they self described themselves as such. Are there any colonial projects that were not invasions? I can't think of any.

But they weren't the natives were they as they arrived as illegal immigrants according to Winnie shortly after publishing his white paper that you use as evidence. On top of this their leaders signed away the Land in 1917 as part of the spoils of war when they were defeated by the British. So they lost the only chance of land they had by siding with the Ottomans during WW1. You really need to start reading some history books to see just what the arab muslims could claim

 

[Phoenall]

In fact, as late 1943 Non-Jews owned about 95% of the land in Palestine.

I still don't see the link between this and the Zionists being "colonial invaders."

What part of colonizing an inhabited land, evicting the natives and then taking over do you not understand? Of course the Zionists were colonial invaders, they self described themselves as such. Are there any colonial projects that were not invasions? I can't think of any.

Your aren't making the case for the Zionists colonial invasion, you're spouting propaganda. Invaders this, invaders that. You're just recycling the dispossession line. If you can show me what ulterior motive they had for dispossessing anyone, I'll freely admit I'm wrong.

I am wondering if you are being serious. If there are inhabitants living on the land that another people are planning to colonize what do the colonists do?

What did the European colonists do in the Americas? Or colonists anywhere?

Of course it was a colonial invasion.

So which nation colonised Palestine then, bearing in mind that the last two sovereign nations who ruled the land invited them to migrate and close colonise the land. The ottoman census shows that the Jews were in the majority in Jewish Palestine, while the arab muslims were in the majority in arab muslim Palestine.

Stop being a hypocrite and give the land your forefathers stole back to first nations people before making racist demands on the Jews.

 

[Phoenall]

World beginning to relate to Israel now

Indeed!

How many years old is that video again ?

Last year.

This year.

And if you look you see mainly muslims, Nazis and left wing activists. Not many either so they are shipped in to swell the ranks. What we in the UK call the great unwashed rent-a-mob

 

[P F Tinmore]

World beginning to relate to Israel now

Indeed!

How many years old is that video again ?

Last year.

This year.

And if you look you see mainly muslims, Nazis and left wing activists. Not many either so they are shipped in to swell the ranks. What we in the UK call the great unwashed rent-a-mob

Yeah, yeah, pfffft.

 

[Phoenall]

World beginning to relate to Israel now

Indeed!

How many years old is that video again ?

Last year.

This year.

And if you look you see mainly muslims, Nazis and left wing activists. Not many either so they are shipped in to swell the ranks. What we in the UK call the great unwashed rent-a-mob

Yeah, yeah, pfffft.

Don't like the truth do you as it shows that you are losing the argument. More people in the UK support Israel than support Palestine shown by the lack of number going to these rallies

 

[theliq]

Recent terrorist events in Paris, San Bernandino, and yesterday the stabbing in London has once again allowed the world to understand the Islamist savagery, antisemitism, and barbarism coming from Palestinians and Muslims in general, that Israel has to deal with on a daily basis.

And yet, despite being under a constant threat of terrorism and war, Israel is able to defend itself, and maintain its democratic values as a state that has approximately 1.8 million Arab Muslim Israeli citizens with the exact same rights as all Israeli citizens.

Maybe the West can learn a few things from the Israelis?

Well the Pro Israeli Lemmings but the more Intelligent amongst us know the difference between Israeli/Zionist BARBARISM towards the Palestinians and the likes of ISIS who learn't their BARBARIC SHIT from the ZIONISTS in the first place...........Palestinians are not ISIS you fool but a people fighting against ZIONIST>>>>>>REPRESSION,ANTI-SEMITISM,SAVAGERY,TERRORISM,BARBARISM INFLICTED ON THEM FOR OVER 70 YEARS..........Much more could be learn't from the Palestinians than Zionists and the World Agrees.......STOP tugging yourself Roudy and those around you,lastly put your brain into Gear,before opening your mouth.

Viva Palestine Viva Israel

SAY NO TO TERRORISM,EG ISIS,ZIONISTS,for example

 

[theliq]

Recent terrorist events in Paris, San Bernandino, and yesterday the stabbing in London has once again allowed the world to understand the Islamist savagery, antisemitism, and barbarism coming from Palestinians and Muslims in general, that Israel has to deal with on a daily basis.

And yet, despite being under a constant threat of terrorism and war, Israel is able to defend itself, and maintain its democratic values as a state that has approximately 1.8 million Arab Muslim Israeli citizens with the exact same rights as all Israeli citizens.

Maybe the West can learn a few things from the Israelis?

No, actually these events serve to illustrate the savagery, hatred, and barbarism exhibited by you and other bigots whose 'arguments' fail as a composition fallacy: the acts of the few are not 'representative' of an entire class or persons, or of an entire religion.

Your ignorance, hate, savagery, barbarism, and bigotry is not representative of all Christians and Jews, it would be wrong to perceive Christians and Jew as such, as is the case with Muslims.

Two paragraphs filled with meaningless personal attacks and gibberish, without addressing the fact that with each Islamist terror attack, the civilized world gets closer to Israel.

Actually, quite the opposite is happening:

"“The Palestinian-Israeli conflict is for them a metaphor for the subordination of the Arab world and the Muslim community,” he said, further calling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict “a breeding ground for such an attack.”

The comments by the Dutch politician follow similar rhetoric by Sweden’s Foreign Minister Margot Wallström, who said Monday that Palestinian grievances with Israel led to the Paris attacks. "

Dutch Socialist leader links Paris terror attacks to Israeli-Palestinian conflict

I'm so glad you brought that up. I agree. You see, The Militants of Palestine threatened a terrorist attack against Bataclan Theatre / Cafe back 2008 and the ISIS terrorists were told to target Bataclan by a well known terrorist who had ties to the Hamas Terrorists and the terrorist group - Militants of Palestine. In this video from 2008 you will see with your own eyes these Palestinian Muslim thugs threatening a terrorist attack on Bataclan Theatre in Paris if they didn't stop hosting IDF and Jewish gala events. The Militants of Palestine are the ultimate Nazi gestapo thugs. Have a look.

By your own admission you agree that ISIS, Hamas, and the Militants of Palestine are working together in their work of worldwide terrorism. This is why the entire world should side with Israel and tell these Arabs calling themselves Palestinians it's game over and they lose - they need to get out of Israel and go back to their own Arab lands..

ISIS and the Palestinians are working together. This video proves it.

This is precisely why Roudy is right. Israels enemies? Are France's enemies, Mumbai's enemies, California's enemies and lest we forget New York's enemies. The Arabs calling themselves Palestinians (and are not) danced in streets for joy and handed out candy in celebration on 9/11. In fact, Israel's enemies - are the World's enemies. Time for the world to wake up.

Watch this:



Notice the towels wrapped around their head and faces? They are a bunch of cowards! Too afraid to show their faces. COWARDS with a capitol C.

As the Americans danced with Glee whilst illegally invading IRAQ.............Palestinians are not ISIS you Fool,they are Frances friends,Palestine has more FRIENDS than Israelzionland idiot

Your post is Idiotic and Inane.....You are a stupid CNUT with a capital C...........

 

[Phoenall]

Recent terrorist events in Paris, San Bernandino, and yesterday the stabbing in London has once again allowed the world to understand the Islamist savagery, antisemitism, and barbarism coming from Palestinians and Muslims in general, that Israel has to deal with on a daily basis.

And yet, despite being under a constant threat of terrorism and war, Israel is able to defend itself, and maintain its democratic values as a state that has approximately 1.8 million Arab Muslim Israeli citizens with the exact same rights as all Israeli citizens.

Maybe the West can learn a few things from the Israelis?

No, actually these events serve to illustrate the savagery, hatred, and barbarism exhibited by you and other bigots whose 'arguments' fail as a composition fallacy: the acts of the few are not 'representative' of an entire class or persons, or of an entire religion.

Your ignorance, hate, savagery, barbarism, and bigotry is not representative of all Christians and Jews, it would be wrong to perceive Christians and Jew as such, as is the case with Muslims.

Two paragraphs filled with meaningless personal attacks and gibberish, without addressing the fact that with each Islamist terror attack, the civilized world gets closer to Israel.

Actually, quite the opposite is happening:

"“The Palestinian-Israeli conflict is for them a metaphor for the subordination of the Arab world and the Muslim community,” he said, further calling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict “a breeding ground for such an attack.”

The comments by the Dutch politician follow similar rhetoric by Sweden’s Foreign Minister Margot Wallström, who said Monday that Palestinian grievances with Israel led to the Paris attacks. "

Dutch Socialist leader links Paris terror attacks to Israeli-Palestinian conflict

I'm so glad you brought that up. I agree. You see, The Militants of Palestine threatened a terrorist attack against Bataclan Theatre / Cafe back 2008 and the ISIS terrorists were told to target Bataclan by a well known terrorist who had ties to the Hamas Terrorists and the terrorist group - Militants of Palestine. In this video from 2008 you will see with your own eyes these Palestinian Muslim thugs threatening a terrorist attack on Bataclan Theatre in Paris if they didn't stop hosting IDF and Jewish gala events. The Militants of Palestine are the ultimate Nazi gestapo thugs. Have a look.

By your own admission you agree that ISIS, Hamas, and the Militants of Palestine are working together in their work of worldwide terrorism. This is why the entire world should side with Israel and tell these Arabs calling themselves Palestinians it's game over and they lose - they need to get out of Israel and go back to their own Arab lands..

ISIS and the Palestinians are working together. This video proves it.

This is precisely why Roudy is right. Israels enemies? Are France's enemies, Mumbai's enemies, California's enemies and lest we forget New York's enemies. The Arabs calling themselves Palestinians (and are not) danced in streets for joy and handed out candy in celebration on 9/11. In fact, Israel's enemies - are the World's enemies. Time for the world to wake up.

Watch this:



Notice the towels wrapped around their head and faces? They are a bunch of cowards! Too afraid to show their faces. COWARDS with a capitol C.

As the Americans danced with Glee whilst illegally invading IRAQ.............Palestinians are not ISIS you Fool,they are Frances friends,Palestine has more FRIENDS than Israelzionland idiot

Your post is Idiotic and Inane.....You are a stupid CNUT with a capital C...........

Is that why France is coming down hard on all muslims, including the Palestinians.

 

[P F Tinmore]

No, actually these events serve to illustrate the savagery, hatred, and barbarism exhibited by you and other bigots whose 'arguments' fail as a composition fallacy: the acts of the few are not 'representative' of an entire class or persons, or of an entire religion.

Your ignorance, hate, savagery, barbarism, and bigotry is not representative of all Christians and Jews, it would be wrong to perceive Christians and Jew as such, as is the case with Muslims.

Two paragraphs filled with meaningless personal attacks and gibberish, without addressing the fact that with each Islamist terror attack, the civilized world gets closer to Israel.

Actually, quite the opposite is happening:

"“The Palestinian-Israeli conflict is for them a metaphor for the subordination of the Arab world and the Muslim community,” he said, further calling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict “a breeding ground for such an attack.”

The comments by the Dutch politician follow similar rhetoric by Sweden’s Foreign Minister Margot Wallström, who said Monday that Palestinian grievances with Israel led to the Paris attacks. "

Dutch Socialist leader links Paris terror attacks to Israeli-Palestinian conflict

I'm so glad you brought that up. I agree. You see, The Militants of Palestine threatened a terrorist attack against Bataclan Theatre / Cafe back 2008 and the ISIS terrorists were told to target Bataclan by a well known terrorist who had ties to the Hamas Terrorists and the terrorist group - Militants of Palestine. In this video from 2008 you will see with your own eyes these Palestinian Muslim thugs threatening a terrorist attack on Bataclan Theatre in Paris if they didn't stop hosting IDF and Jewish gala events. The Militants of Palestine are the ultimate Nazi gestapo thugs. Have a look.

By your own admission you agree that ISIS, Hamas, and the Militants of Palestine are working together in their work of worldwide terrorism. This is why the entire world should side with Israel and tell these Arabs calling themselves Palestinians it's game over and they lose - they need to get out of Israel and go back to their own Arab lands..

ISIS and the Palestinians are working together. This video proves it.

This is precisely why Roudy is right. Israels enemies? Are France's enemies, Mumbai's enemies, California's enemies and lest we forget New York's enemies. The Arabs calling themselves Palestinians (and are not) danced in streets for joy and handed out candy in celebration on 9/11. In fact, Israel's enemies - are the World's enemies. Time for the world to wake up.

Watch this:



Notice the towels wrapped around their head and faces? They are a bunch of cowards! Too afraid to show their faces. COWARDS with a capitol C.

As the Americans danced with Glee whilst illegally invading IRAQ.............Palestinians are not ISIS you Fool,they are Frances friends,Palestine has more FRIENDS than Israelzionland idiot

Your post is Idiotic and Inane.....You are a stupid CNUT with a capital C...........

Is that why France is coming down hard on all muslims, including the Palestinians.

Your talking about government lackeys.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

There are arguments to be made for both the rational and the irrational (opposite) fear of Muslims and the radical Islamic threat.

• Islamophobia is the prejudice against or fear of the religion of Islam or Muslims. Is there any reason to believe that the threat posed by Muslims is any greater today, then any other culture?

• Have "Islam" and "Terrorism" became synonymous in the media and the general public?
​

Your talking about government lackeys.

(The MUSLIM and the THREAT)

There is no question that the reputation between Radical Islam and Terrorist are made stronger and stronger with each passing incident and threat.

» 05/15/2015
ISLAM – MIDDLE EAST
For Al-Baghdadi, Islam is a religion of war, a shrewd message according to Father Samir
by Samir Khalil Samir
The 'caliph' urges all Muslims to carry out their ‘hijrah’, emigration, to move from an Islam of peace to one of war, imitating Muhammad and his Hegira (in 622). The message rekindles something deeply embedded in the Islamic world and among traditionalists and Salafists. Islam is both peace and war and it is time for Muslims to reform their view of history. Islamic holy war and the Crusades are not comparable.
​

​

Rome (AsiaNews) – The Islamic State (IS) group yesterday released an audio message from its leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, in which he calls on all Muslims to "emigrate" to the caliphate and carry out jihad, holy war, because "Islam was never a religion of peace” but “is the religion of fighting."

In the 33-minute audio message, Baghadi is heard saying, "And we call upon every Muslim in every place to perform hijrah (emigration) to the Islamic State or fight in his land wherever that may be”.

In view of this, “Has the time not come for you to know that there is no might nor honour nor safety nor rights for you except in the shade of the Caliphate?"

"Islam,” he adds, “was never a religion of peace. Islam is the religion of fighting. No one should believe that the war that we are waging is the war of the Islamic State. It is the war of all Muslims, but the Islamic State is spearheading it. It is the war of Muslims against infidels."
​

(COMMENT)

Like many issues emanating from the Arab World, the Arab Muslim sets the tone, and sets the political conditions in which this "rational fear" - vs - "irrational fear" is discussed.

This is not so dissimilar to other calls for Jihad we have heard over the years. Now we all, intellectually know, that not all Muslims are Islamic Radicals. BUT, that may change with time. There is no set condition that can resist change indefinitely. Today's moderate Muslim may be tomorrow's radical.

Under what forum can we make realistic distinctions?

(WORTH READING)

Excerpt of President el Sisi's (Egypt) speech is truly remarkable:
Read more at Radical Islamic Jihadism: A Mortal Threat to Western Civilization

I am addressing the religious scholars and clerics. We must take a long, hard look
at the current situation. . . it is inconceivable that the ideology that we sanctify
should make our entire nation a source of concern, danger, killing, and
destruction all over the world. . . .

I am referring not to "religion" but to "ideology" – the body of ideas and texts that
we have sanctified in the course of centuries . . . .

It has reached the point that this (this ideology) is hostile to the entire world. . . .I
say these things here, at Al-Azhar, before religious clerics and scholars. May Allah bear witness on Judgment Day to the truth of your intentions, regarding what I say to you today. You cannot see things clearly when you are locked (in this theology). You must emerge from it and look from outside, in order to get closer to a truly enlightened theology . . . .let me say it again; we need to revolutionize our religion. . . .Honorable Imam (the Grand Sheik), you bear responsibility before Allah. The world in its entirety awaits your words, because the Islamic nation is being torn apart, destroyed, and is heading to perdition. We are ourselves are bringing it to perdition.​

If the threat is real, is the fear irrational?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

There are arguments to be made for both the rational and the irrational (opposite) fear of Muslims and the radical Islamic threat.

• Islamophobia is the prejudice against or fear of the religion of Islam or Muslims. Is there any reason to believe that the threat posed by Muslims is any greater today, then any other culture?

• Have "Islam" and "Terrorism" became synonymous in the media and the general public?
​

Your talking about government lackeys.

(The MUSLIM and the THREAT)

There is no question that the reputation between Radical Islam and Terrorist are made stronger and stronger with each passing incident and threat.

» 05/15/2015
ISLAM – MIDDLE EAST
For Al-Baghdadi, Islam is a religion of war, a shrewd message according to Father Samir
by Samir Khalil Samir
The 'caliph' urges all Muslims to carry out their ‘hijrah’, emigration, to move from an Islam of peace to one of war, imitating Muhammad and his Hegira (in 622). The message rekindles something deeply embedded in the Islamic world and among traditionalists and Salafists. Islam is both peace and war and it is time for Muslims to reform their view of history. Islamic holy war and the Crusades are not comparable.
​

​

Rome (AsiaNews) – The Islamic State (IS) group yesterday released an audio message from its leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, in which he calls on all Muslims to "emigrate" to the caliphate and carry out jihad, holy war, because "Islam was never a religion of peace” but “is the religion of fighting."

In the 33-minute audio message, Baghadi is heard saying, "And we call upon every Muslim in every place to perform hijrah (emigration) to the Islamic State or fight in his land wherever that may be”.

In view of this, “Has the time not come for you to know that there is no might nor honour nor safety nor rights for you except in the shade of the Caliphate?"

"Islam,” he adds, “was never a religion of peace. Islam is the religion of fighting. No one should believe that the war that we are waging is the war of the Islamic State. It is the war of all Muslims, but the Islamic State is spearheading it. It is the war of Muslims against infidels."
​

(COMMENT)

Like many issues emanating from the Arab World, the Arab Muslim sets the tone, and sets the political conditions in which this "rational fear" - vs - "irrational fear" is discussed.

This is not so dissimilar to other calls for Jihad we have heard over the years. Now we all, intellectually know, that not all Muslims are Islamic Radicals. BUT, that may change with time. There is no set condition that can resist change indefinitely. Today's moderate Muslim may be tomorrow's radical.

Under what forum can we make realistic distinctions?

(WORTH READING)

Excerpt of President el Sisi's (Egypt) speech is truly remarkable:
Read more at Radical Islamic Jihadism: A Mortal Threat to Western Civilization

I am addressing the religious scholars and clerics. We must take a long, hard look
at the current situation. . . it is inconceivable that the ideology that we sanctify
should make our entire nation a source of concern, danger, killing, and
destruction all over the world. . . .

I am referring not to "religion" but to "ideology" – the body of ideas and texts that
we have sanctified in the course of centuries . . . .

It has reached the point that this (this ideology) is hostile to the entire world. . . .I
say these things here, at Al-Azhar, before religious clerics and scholars. May Allah bear witness on Judgment Day to the truth of your intentions, regarding what I say to you today. You cannot see things clearly when you are locked (in this theology). You must emerge from it and look from outside, in order to get closer to a truly enlightened theology . . . .let me say it again; we need to revolutionize our religion. . . .Honorable Imam (the Grand Sheik), you bear responsibility before Allah. The world in its entirety awaits your words, because the Islamic nation is being torn apart, destroyed, and is heading to perdition. We are ourselves are bringing it to perdition.​

If the threat is real, is the fear irrational?

Most Respectfully,
R

OK, but the I/P conflict is not about religion. The Islamic terrorism thing about the Palestinians is an Israeli propaganda things.

Some things you need to know about so called Islamic terrorism.

 

[theliq]

No, actually these events serve to illustrate the savagery, hatred, and barbarism exhibited by you and other bigots whose 'arguments' fail as a composition fallacy: the acts of the few are not 'representative' of an entire class or persons, or of an entire religion.

Your ignorance, hate, savagery, barbarism, and bigotry is not representative of all Christians and Jews, it would be wrong to perceive Christians and Jew as such, as is the case with Muslims.

Two paragraphs filled with meaningless personal attacks and gibberish, without addressing the fact that with each Islamist terror attack, the civilized world gets closer to Israel.

Actually, quite the opposite is happening:

"“The Palestinian-Israeli conflict is for them a metaphor for the subordination of the Arab world and the Muslim community,” he said, further calling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict “a breeding ground for such an attack.”

The comments by the Dutch politician follow similar rhetoric by Sweden’s Foreign Minister Margot Wallström, who said Monday that Palestinian grievances with Israel led to the Paris attacks. "

Dutch Socialist leader links Paris terror attacks to Israeli-Palestinian conflict

I'm so glad you brought that up. I agree. You see, The Militants of Palestine threatened a terrorist attack against Bataclan Theatre / Cafe back 2008 and the ISIS terrorists were told to target Bataclan by a well known terrorist who had ties to the Hamas Terrorists and the terrorist group - Militants of Palestine. In this video from 2008 you will see with your own eyes these Palestinian Muslim thugs threatening a terrorist attack on Bataclan Theatre in Paris if they didn't stop hosting IDF and Jewish gala events. The Militants of Palestine are the ultimate Nazi gestapo thugs. Have a look.

By your own admission you agree that ISIS, Hamas, and the Militants of Palestine are working together in their work of worldwide terrorism. This is why the entire world should side with Israel and tell these Arabs calling themselves Palestinians it's game over and they lose - they need to get out of Israel and go back to their own Arab lands..

ISIS and the Palestinians are working together. This video proves it.

This is precisely why Roudy is right. Israels enemies? Are France's enemies, Mumbai's enemies, California's enemies and lest we forget New York's enemies. The Arabs calling themselves Palestinians (and are not) danced in streets for joy and handed out candy in celebration on 9/11. In fact, Israel's enemies - are the World's enemies. Time for the world to wake up.

Watch this:



Notice the towels wrapped around their head and faces? They are a bunch of cowards! Too afraid to show their faces. COWARDS with a capitol C.

As the Americans danced with Glee whilst illegally invading IRAQ.............Palestinians are not ISIS you Fool,they are Frances friends,Palestine has more FRIENDS than Israelzionland idiot

Your post is Idiotic and Inane.....You are a stupid CNUT with a capital C...........

Is that why France is coming down hard on all muslims, including the Palestinians.

Stop talking shit,France knows the difference

 

[Phoenall]

Two paragraphs filled with meaningless personal attacks and gibberish, without addressing the fact that with each Islamist terror attack, the civilized world gets closer to Israel.

Actually, quite the opposite is happening:

"“The Palestinian-Israeli conflict is for them a metaphor for the subordination of the Arab world and the Muslim community,” he said, further calling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict “a breeding ground for such an attack.”

The comments by the Dutch politician follow similar rhetoric by Sweden’s Foreign Minister Margot Wallström, who said Monday that Palestinian grievances with Israel led to the Paris attacks. "

Dutch Socialist leader links Paris terror attacks to Israeli-Palestinian conflict

I'm so glad you brought that up. I agree. You see, The Militants of Palestine threatened a terrorist attack against Bataclan Theatre / Cafe back 2008 and the ISIS terrorists were told to target Bataclan by a well known terrorist who had ties to the Hamas Terrorists and the terrorist group - Militants of Palestine. In this video from 2008 you will see with your own eyes these Palestinian Muslim thugs threatening a terrorist attack on Bataclan Theatre in Paris if they didn't stop hosting IDF and Jewish gala events. The Militants of Palestine are the ultimate Nazi gestapo thugs. Have a look.

By your own admission you agree that ISIS, Hamas, and the Militants of Palestine are working together in their work of worldwide terrorism. This is why the entire world should side with Israel and tell these Arabs calling themselves Palestinians it's game over and they lose - they need to get out of Israel and go back to their own Arab lands..

ISIS and the Palestinians are working together. This video proves it.

This is precisely why Roudy is right. Israels enemies? Are France's enemies, Mumbai's enemies, California's enemies and lest we forget New York's enemies. The Arabs calling themselves Palestinians (and are not) danced in streets for joy and handed out candy in celebration on 9/11. In fact, Israel's enemies - are the World's enemies. Time for the world to wake up.

Watch this:



Notice the towels wrapped around their head and faces? They are a bunch of cowards! Too afraid to show their faces. COWARDS with a capitol C.

As the Americans danced with Glee whilst illegally invading IRAQ.............Palestinians are not ISIS you Fool,they are Frances friends,Palestine has more FRIENDS than Israelzionland idiot

Your post is Idiotic and Inane.....You are a stupid CNUT with a capital C...........

Is that why France is coming down hard on all muslims, including the Palestinians.

Your talking about government lackeys.

No I am talking about a nation that has finally seen the light and wants its government to take action. Even the left wing pinko liberals are demanding action against ALL THE MUSLIMS because they are seeing that there is no distinction between moderate and extremist muslims. They mix together when praying in the street causing traffic problems, then deny each other when the chips are down.

 

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P F Tinmore, et al,

There are arguments to be made for both the rational and the irrational (opposite) fear of Muslims and the radical Islamic threat.

• Islamophobia is the prejudice against or fear of the religion of Islam or Muslims. Is there any reason to believe that the threat posed by Muslims is any greater today, then any other culture?

• Have "Islam" and "Terrorism" became synonymous in the media and the general public?
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Your talking about government lackeys.

(The MUSLIM and the THREAT)

There is no question that the reputation between Radical Islam and Terrorist are made stronger and stronger with each passing incident and threat.

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ISLAM – MIDDLE EAST
For Al-Baghdadi, Islam is a religion of war, a shrewd message according to Father Samir
by Samir Khalil Samir
The 'caliph' urges all Muslims to carry out their ‘hijrah’, emigration, to move from an Islam of peace to one of war, imitating Muhammad and his Hegira (in 622). The message rekindles something deeply embedded in the Islamic world and among traditionalists and Salafists. Islam is both peace and war and it is time for Muslims to reform their view of history. Islamic holy war and the Crusades are not comparable.
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Rome (AsiaNews) – The Islamic State (IS) group yesterday released an audio message from its leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, in which he calls on all Muslims to "emigrate" to the caliphate and carry out jihad, holy war, because "Islam was never a religion of peace” but “is the religion of fighting."

In the 33-minute audio message, Baghadi is heard saying, "And we call upon every Muslim in every place to perform hijrah (emigration) to the Islamic State or fight in his land wherever that may be”.

In view of this, “Has the time not come for you to know that there is no might nor honour nor safety nor rights for you except in the shade of the Caliphate?"

"Islam,” he adds, “was never a religion of peace. Islam is the religion of fighting. No one should believe that the war that we are waging is the war of the Islamic State. It is the war of all Muslims, but the Islamic State is spearheading it. It is the war of Muslims against infidels."
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Like many issues emanating from the Arab World, the Arab Muslim sets the tone, and sets the political conditions in which this "rational fear" - vs - "irrational fear" is discussed.

This is not so dissimilar to other calls for Jihad we have heard over the years. Now we all, intellectually know, that not all Muslims are Islamic Radicals. BUT, that may change with time. There is no set condition that can resist change indefinitely. Today's moderate Muslim may be tomorrow's radical.

Under what forum can we make realistic distinctions?

(WORTH READING)

Excerpt of President el Sisi's (Egypt) speech is truly remarkable:
Read more at Radical Islamic Jihadism: A Mortal Threat to Western Civilization

I am addressing the religious scholars and clerics. We must take a long, hard look
at the current situation. . . it is inconceivable that the ideology that we sanctify
should make our entire nation a source of concern, danger, killing, and
destruction all over the world. . . .

I am referring not to "religion" but to "ideology" – the body of ideas and texts that
we have sanctified in the course of centuries . . . .

It has reached the point that this (this ideology) is hostile to the entire world. . . .I
say these things here, at Al-Azhar, before religious clerics and scholars. May Allah bear witness on Judgment Day to the truth of your intentions, regarding what I say to you today. You cannot see things clearly when you are locked (in this theology). You must emerge from it and look from outside, in order to get closer to a truly enlightened theology . . . .let me say it again; we need to revolutionize our religion. . . .Honorable Imam (the Grand Sheik), you bear responsibility before Allah. The world in its entirety awaits your words, because the Islamic nation is being torn apart, destroyed, and is heading to perdition. We are ourselves are bringing it to perdition.​

If the threat is real, is the fear irrational?

Most Respectfully,
R

OK, but the I/P conflict is not about religion. The Islamic terrorism thing about the Palestinians is an Israeli propaganda things.

Some things you need to know about so called Islamic terrorism.

The I/P conflict is all about religion on the side of the Palestinians because they tell you it is every day. Even their charter is couched in religious terms to draw the religious extremists to their cause. They have no right to expect to be treated as decent human beings while they refuse to condemn their own people for any terrorist actions BEFORE THEY BEGIN