World beginning to relate to Israel now

[montelatici]

Were they not invading colonists?

No. You know damn well you're too smart to fall for such propaganda.

Propaganda? It seems it is you who have been brainwashed. The Zionists themselves did not hide their plan to colonize Palestine, as early as 1898.

NYT June 10, 1898

Zionists plan to colonize Palestine in 1899 NY Times - World Bulletin

Successful Jewish Colonization Will Extend Beyond Palestine Frontier

The contemplated trip to the United States of Dr. Chaim Weizmann, president of the World Zionist Organization, the continuation of his efforts while in America to extend the Jewish Agency through his negotiations with the Marshall group, the possibilities of extending Jewish colonization work outside of the present Palestine frontiers, including. Transjordania and certain parts of Syria, were the main features around which the deliberations centered.

Successful Jewish Colonization Will Extend Beyond Palestine Frontier, Weizmann Tells Actions Committ

We have gone over this ad nauseam. They weren't invading anything. Arabs were selling Jews land long before the Zionists decided to "colonize" Palestine. That one critical detail always gets in the way of your argument.

Jewish land purchase in Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You are just spouting Zionist propaganda. There was hardly any land sold by Arabs to European Jews prior to 1898.

In fact, as late 1943 Non-Jews owned about 95% of the land in Palestine. 24 million dunums versus 1.5 million dunums.

Wikipedia is edited by Hasbara daily. It has no credibility.

http://www.bjpa.org/Publications/downloadFile.cfm?FileID=17185

From the Survey of Palestine Vol. 2 page 566 archived at the Berman Jewish Policy Archive at NYU.

 

[TemplarKormac]

In fact, as late 1943 Non-Jews owned about 95% of the land in Palestine.

I still don't see the link between this and the Zionists being "colonial invaders."

 

[montelatici]

In fact, as late 1943 Non-Jews owned about 95% of the land in Palestine.

I still don't see the link between this and the Zionists being "colonial invaders."

What part of colonizing an inhabited land, evicting the natives and then taking over do you not understand? Of course the Zionists were colonial invaders, they self described themselves as such. Are there any colonial projects that were not invasions? I can't think of any.

 

[TemplarKormac]

In fact, as late 1943 Non-Jews owned about 95% of the land in Palestine.

I still don't see the link between this and the Zionists being "colonial invaders."

What part of colonizing an inhabited land, evicting the natives and then taking over do you not understand? Of course the Zionists were colonial invaders, they self described themselves as such. Are there any colonial projects that were not invasions? I can't think of any.

Your aren't making the case for the Zionists colonial invasion, you're spouting propaganda. Invaders this, invaders that. You're just recycling the dispossession line. If you can show me what ulterior motive they had for dispossessing anyone, I'll freely admit I'm wrong.

 

[TemplarKormac]

And, how did they describe themselves as "invaders"?

 

[montelatici]

In fact, as late 1943 Non-Jews owned about 95% of the land in Palestine.

I still don't see the link between this and the Zionists being "colonial invaders."

What part of colonizing an inhabited land, evicting the natives and then taking over do you not understand? Of course the Zionists were colonial invaders, they self described themselves as such. Are there any colonial projects that were not invasions? I can't think of any.

Your aren't making the case for the Zionists colonial invasion, you're spouting propaganda. Invaders this, invaders that. You're just recycling the dispossession line. If you can show me what ulterior motive they had for dispossessing anyone, I'll freely admit I'm wrong.

I am wondering if you are being serious. If there are inhabitants living on the land that another people are planning to colonize what do the colonists do?

What did the European colonists do in the Americas? Or colonists anywhere?

Of course it was a colonial invasion.

 

[TemplarKormac]

In fact, as late 1943 Non-Jews owned about 95% of the land in Palestine.

I still don't see the link between this and the Zionists being "colonial invaders."

What part of colonizing an inhabited land, evicting the natives and then taking over do you not understand? Of course the Zionists were colonial invaders, they self described themselves as such. Are there any colonial projects that were not invasions? I can't think of any.

Your aren't making the case for the Zionists colonial invasion, you're spouting propaganda. Invaders this, invaders that. You're just recycling the dispossession line. If you can show me what ulterior motive they had for dispossessing anyone, I'll freely admit I'm wrong.

I am wondering if you are being serious. If there are inhabitants living on the land that another people are planning to colonize what do the colonists do?

What did the European colonists do in the Americas? Or colonists anywhere?

Of course it was a colonial invasion.

Of course I'm not being serious. You aren't making even a slightly cogent case for the Zionist invasion. You simply expect me to take your mere insistences as facts. Nope.

Now make a factual, substantial case for this supposed invasion, and I might be compelled to take you seriously.

 

[Jroc]

Recent terrorist events in Paris, San Bernandino, and yesterday the stabbing in London has once again allowed the world to understand the Islamist savagery, antisemitism, and barbarism coming from Palestinians and Muslims in general, that Israel has to deal with on a daily basis.

And yet, despite being under a constant threat of terrorism and war, Israel is able to defend itself, and maintain its democratic values as a state that has approximately 1.8 million Arab Muslim Israeli citizens with the exact same rights as all Israeli citizens.

Maybe the West can learn a few things from the Israelis?

No, actually these events serve to illustrate the savagery, hatred, and barbarism exhibited by you and other bigots whose 'arguments' fail as a composition fallacy: the acts of the few are not 'representative' of an entire class or persons, or of an entire religion.

Your ignorance, hate, savagery, barbarism, and bigotry is not representative of all Christians and Jews, it would be wrong to perceive Christians and Jew as such, as is the case with Muslims.

Two paragraphs filled with meaningless personal attacks and gibberish, without addressing the fact that with each Islamist terror attack, the civilized world gets closer to Israel.

Actually, quite the opposite is happening:

"“The Palestinian-Israeli conflict is for them a metaphor for the subordination of the Arab world and the Muslim community,” he said, further calling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict “a breeding ground for such an attack.”

The comments by the Dutch politician follow similar rhetoric by Sweden’s Foreign Minister Margot Wallström, who said Monday that Palestinian grievances with Israel led to the Paris attacks. "

Dutch Socialist leader links Paris terror attacks to Israeli-Palestinian conflict

I'm so glad you brought that up. I agree. You see, The Militants of Palestine threatened a terrorist attack against Bataclan Theatre / Cafe back 2008 and the ISIS terrorists were told to target Bataclan by a well known terrorist who had ties to the Hamas Terrorists and the terrorist group - Militants of Palestine. In this video from 2008 you will see with your own eyes these Palestinian Muslim thugs threatening a terrorist attack on Bataclan Theatre in Paris if they didn't stop hosting IDF and Jewish gala events. The Militants of Palestine are the ultimate Nazi gestapo thugs. Have a look.

By your own admission you agree that ISIS, Hamas, and the Militants of Palestine are working together in their work of worldwide terrorism. This is why the entire world should side with Israel and tell these Arabs calling themselves Palestinians it's game over and they lose - they need to get out of Israel and go back to their own Arab lands..

ISIS and the Palestinians are working together. This video proves it.

This is precisely why Roudy is right. Israels enemies? Are France's enemies, Mumbai's enemies, California's enemies and lest we forget New York's enemies. The Arabs calling themselves Palestinians (and are not) danced in streets for joy and handed out candy in celebration on 9/11. In fact, Israel's enemies - are the World's enemies. Time for the world to wake up.

Watch this:

ISIS calls Hamas 'apostates', pledges to fight them in Gaza

They've made peace since July..Try to keep current


ISIS Commander Meets With Hamas in Gaza

L. TODD WOOD: ISIS commander meets with Hamas in Gaza

 

[ChrisL]

Recent terrorist events in Paris, San Bernandino, and yesterday the stabbing in London has once again allowed the world to understand the Islamist savagery, antisemitism, and barbarism coming from Palestinians and Muslims in general, that Israel has to deal with on a daily basis.

And yet, despite being under a constant threat of terrorism and war, Israel is able to defend itself, and maintain its democratic values as a state that has approximately 1.8 million Arab Muslim Israeli citizens with the exact same rights as all Israeli citizens.

Maybe the West can learn a few things from the Israelis?

So true. I was just thinking the other day about France's reaction (not that I have a problem with it or anything), and how long Israel has been dealing with this. Those poor people. I really feel for them. I'm glad we don't have any "neighbors" like Israel.

 

[TheOldSchool]

No, actually these events serve to illustrate the savagery, hatred, and barbarism exhibited by you and other bigots whose 'arguments' fail as a composition fallacy: the acts of the few are not 'representative' of an entire class or persons, or of an entire religion.

Your ignorance, hate, savagery, barbarism, and bigotry is not representative of all Christians and Jews, it would be wrong to perceive Christians and Jew as such, as is the case with Muslims.

Two paragraphs filled with meaningless personal attacks and gibberish, without addressing the fact that with each Islamist terror attack, the civilized world gets closer to Israel.

Actually, quite the opposite is happening:

"“The Palestinian-Israeli conflict is for them a metaphor for the subordination of the Arab world and the Muslim community,” he said, further calling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict “a breeding ground for such an attack.”

The comments by the Dutch politician follow similar rhetoric by Sweden’s Foreign Minister Margot Wallström, who said Monday that Palestinian grievances with Israel led to the Paris attacks. "

Dutch Socialist leader links Paris terror attacks to Israeli-Palestinian conflict

I'm so glad you brought that up. I agree. You see, The Militants of Palestine threatened a terrorist attack against Bataclan Theatre / Cafe back 2008 and the ISIS terrorists were told to target Bataclan by a well known terrorist who had ties to the Hamas Terrorists and the terrorist group - Militants of Palestine. In this video from 2008 you will see with your own eyes these Palestinian Muslim thugs threatening a terrorist attack on Bataclan Theatre in Paris if they didn't stop hosting IDF and Jewish gala events. The Militants of Palestine are the ultimate Nazi gestapo thugs. Have a look.

By your own admission you agree that ISIS, Hamas, and the Militants of Palestine are working together in their work of worldwide terrorism. This is why the entire world should side with Israel and tell these Arabs calling themselves Palestinians it's game over and they lose - they need to get out of Israel and go back to their own Arab lands..

ISIS and the Palestinians are working together. This video proves it.

This is precisely why Roudy is right. Israels enemies? Are France's enemies, Mumbai's enemies, California's enemies and lest we forget New York's enemies. The Arabs calling themselves Palestinians (and are not) danced in streets for joy and handed out candy in celebration on 9/11. In fact, Israel's enemies - are the World's enemies. Time for the world to wake up.

Watch this:

ISIS calls Hamas 'apostates', pledges to fight them in Gaza

They've made peace since July..Try to keep current


ISIS Commander Meets With Hamas in Gaza

L. TODD WOOD: ISIS commander meets with Hamas in Gaza

EXCLUSIVE: Hamas Foils Mass ISIS Prison Break In Gaza

Hamas, Hezbollah condemn ISIS terror attacks, but Palestinian Authority blames Israel instead | Christian News on Christian Today

News - ISIS may have seized weapons from interdicted shipment to Hamas

Please follow your own advice and try to stay current.

 

[Roudy]

Europe is now having to deal with the same type of Islamist savages that Israel deals with on a regular basis. Israel is last on the list of their concerns. And with each terrorist event, they get even closer to Israel.

Europe is distancing itself more and more from Israel. Europe understands that the West's support for Israel is one of the causes of Muslim disaffection with Europe. Europe is not so stupid to believe that it is to their advantage to support a warmongering U.S. neo-colonial outpost in the Middle East of 6 million, when such support raises the ire of 1.6 billion people against Europe.

The Palestinians had to contend with the arrival of European hordes in much the same way the Muslim hordes are invading Europe. They were unable to stop the Jewish hordes from Europe and they lost their land. Maybe Europe will use that example to put a stop to Muslim migration.

They had another terror alert today in Geneva looking for four Muslim terrorists, it was announced today that the San Bernardino terrorist's best friend converted to Islam, and another arrest in Minnesota for a Somali Muslim animal trying to recruit Americans to go join ISIS in Syria. Europe is now beginning to feel exactly what the Israelis are up against. Same Islamic scum, different geographical location.

I don't know what this has to do with the I/P section, but describing Muslims as animals, particularly black Somalis is racist.

As I said, Europeans are beginning to realize that being associated with the U.S. and its unquestioning support for all of Israel's murderous actions is one of the components that fuels Muslim discontent in Europe.

I would not be so happy if I were you, even if you don't believe the facts, the increase in the Muslim population in Europe does not bode well for Israel.

As I said, with each terror event, the world is beginning to realize the Palestinian terrorist animals that Israel has to deal with.

Speaking of going off topic, last I checked, this thread wasn't about the usual BS "Zionist colonial invaders".

 

[TemplarKormac]

Now, I'm not trying to taunt anyone, but as you can see... when Monte is challenged to back up his rhetoric, he skips the thread. So, my challenge to him stands for anyone else who can prove what he couldn't.

 

[Roudy]

Recent terrorist events in Paris, San Bernandino, and yesterday the stabbing in London has once again allowed the world to understand the Islamist savagery, antisemitism, and barbarism coming from Palestinians and Muslims in general, that Israel has to deal with on a daily basis.

And yet, despite being under a constant threat of terrorism and war, Israel is able to defend itself, and maintain its democratic values as a state that has approximately 1.8 million Arab Muslim Israeli citizens with the exact same rights as all Israeli citizens.

Maybe the West can learn a few things from the Israelis?

So true. I was just thinking the other day about France's reaction (not that I have a problem with it or anything), and how long Israel has been dealing with this. Those poor people. I really feel for them. I'm glad we don't have any "neighbors" like Israel.

France is cleaning up, it's already closed a few mosques for inciting terror and hatred. Even Israel isn't doing that.

 

[Jroc]

Two paragraphs filled with meaningless personal attacks and gibberish, without addressing the fact that with each Islamist terror attack, the civilized world gets closer to Israel.

Actually, quite the opposite is happening:

"“The Palestinian-Israeli conflict is for them a metaphor for the subordination of the Arab world and the Muslim community,” he said, further calling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict “a breeding ground for such an attack.”

The comments by the Dutch politician follow similar rhetoric by Sweden’s Foreign Minister Margot Wallström, who said Monday that Palestinian grievances with Israel led to the Paris attacks. "

Dutch Socialist leader links Paris terror attacks to Israeli-Palestinian conflict

I'm so glad you brought that up. I agree. You see, The Militants of Palestine threatened a terrorist attack against Bataclan Theatre / Cafe back 2008 and the ISIS terrorists were told to target Bataclan by a well known terrorist who had ties to the Hamas Terrorists and the terrorist group - Militants of Palestine. In this video from 2008 you will see with your own eyes these Palestinian Muslim thugs threatening a terrorist attack on Bataclan Theatre in Paris if they didn't stop hosting IDF and Jewish gala events. The Militants of Palestine are the ultimate Nazi gestapo thugs. Have a look.

By your own admission you agree that ISIS, Hamas, and the Militants of Palestine are working together in their work of worldwide terrorism. This is why the entire world should side with Israel and tell these Arabs calling themselves Palestinians it's game over and they lose - they need to get out of Israel and go back to their own Arab lands..

ISIS and the Palestinians are working together. This video proves it.

This is precisely why Roudy is right. Israels enemies? Are France's enemies, Mumbai's enemies, California's enemies and lest we forget New York's enemies. The Arabs calling themselves Palestinians (and are not) danced in streets for joy and handed out candy in celebration on 9/11. In fact, Israel's enemies - are the World's enemies. Time for the world to wake up.

Watch this:

ISIS calls Hamas 'apostates', pledges to fight them in Gaza

They've made peace since July..Try to keep current


ISIS Commander Meets With Hamas in Gaza

L. TODD WOOD: ISIS commander meets with Hamas in Gaza

EXCLUSIVE: Hamas Foils Mass ISIS Prison Break In Gaza

Hamas, Hezbollah condemn ISIS terror attacks, but Palestinian Authority blames Israel instead | Christian News on Christian Today

News - ISIS may have seized weapons from interdicted shipment to Hamas

Please follow your own advice and try to stay current.

Actually i am current those are a month old I'm sure negotiations are ongoing. Iran gives Hamas money, other than that Hamas is Sunni, like isis. Two peas in a pod

 

[TheOldSchool]

Actually, quite the opposite is happening:

"“The Palestinian-Israeli conflict is for them a metaphor for the subordination of the Arab world and the Muslim community,” he said, further calling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict “a breeding ground for such an attack.”

The comments by the Dutch politician follow similar rhetoric by Sweden’s Foreign Minister Margot Wallström, who said Monday that Palestinian grievances with Israel led to the Paris attacks. "

Dutch Socialist leader links Paris terror attacks to Israeli-Palestinian conflict

I'm so glad you brought that up. I agree. You see, The Militants of Palestine threatened a terrorist attack against Bataclan Theatre / Cafe back 2008 and the ISIS terrorists were told to target Bataclan by a well known terrorist who had ties to the Hamas Terrorists and the terrorist group - Militants of Palestine. In this video from 2008 you will see with your own eyes these Palestinian Muslim thugs threatening a terrorist attack on Bataclan Theatre in Paris if they didn't stop hosting IDF and Jewish gala events. The Militants of Palestine are the ultimate Nazi gestapo thugs. Have a look.

By your own admission you agree that ISIS, Hamas, and the Militants of Palestine are working together in their work of worldwide terrorism. This is why the entire world should side with Israel and tell these Arabs calling themselves Palestinians it's game over and they lose - they need to get out of Israel and go back to their own Arab lands..

ISIS and the Palestinians are working together. This video proves it.

This is precisely why Roudy is right. Israels enemies? Are France's enemies, Mumbai's enemies, California's enemies and lest we forget New York's enemies. The Arabs calling themselves Palestinians (and are not) danced in streets for joy and handed out candy in celebration on 9/11. In fact, Israel's enemies - are the World's enemies. Time for the world to wake up.

Watch this:

ISIS calls Hamas 'apostates', pledges to fight them in Gaza

They've made peace since July..Try to keep current


ISIS Commander Meets With Hamas in Gaza

L. TODD WOOD: ISIS commander meets with Hamas in Gaza

EXCLUSIVE: Hamas Foils Mass ISIS Prison Break In Gaza

Hamas, Hezbollah condemn ISIS terror attacks, but Palestinian Authority blames Israel instead | Christian News on Christian Today

News - ISIS may have seized weapons from interdicted shipment to Hamas

Please follow your own advice and try to stay current.

Actually i am current those are a month old I'm sure negotiations are ongoing. Iran gives Hamas money other than that Hamas is Sunni, like isis, two peas in a pod

My last article is more current than yours. And all 3 prove your last July comment false.

 

[Jroc]

I'm so glad you brought that up. I agree. You see, The Militants of Palestine threatened a terrorist attack against Bataclan Theatre / Cafe back 2008 and the ISIS terrorists were told to target Bataclan by a well known terrorist who had ties to the Hamas Terrorists and the terrorist group - Militants of Palestine. In this video from 2008 you will see with your own eyes these Palestinian Muslim thugs threatening a terrorist attack on Bataclan Theatre in Paris if they didn't stop hosting IDF and Jewish gala events. The Militants of Palestine are the ultimate Nazi gestapo thugs. Have a look.

By your own admission you agree that ISIS, Hamas, and the Militants of Palestine are working together in their work of worldwide terrorism. This is why the entire world should side with Israel and tell these Arabs calling themselves Palestinians it's game over and they lose - they need to get out of Israel and go back to their own Arab lands..

ISIS and the Palestinians are working together. This video proves it.

This is precisely why Roudy is right. Israels enemies? Are France's enemies, Mumbai's enemies, California's enemies and lest we forget New York's enemies. The Arabs calling themselves Palestinians (and are not) danced in streets for joy and handed out candy in celebration on 9/11. In fact, Israel's enemies - are the World's enemies. Time for the world to wake up.

Watch this:

ISIS calls Hamas 'apostates', pledges to fight them in Gaza

They've made peace since July..Try to keep current


ISIS Commander Meets With Hamas in Gaza

L. TODD WOOD: ISIS commander meets with Hamas in Gaza

EXCLUSIVE: Hamas Foils Mass ISIS Prison Break In Gaza

Hamas, Hezbollah condemn ISIS terror attacks, but Palestinian Authority blames Israel instead | Christian News on Christian Today

News - ISIS may have seized weapons from interdicted shipment to Hamas

Please follow your own advice and try to stay current.

Actually i am current those are a month old I'm sure negotiations are ongoing. Iran gives Hamas money other than that Hamas is Sunni, like isis, two peas in a pod

My last article is more current than yours. And all 3 prove your last July comment false.

the last article is "isis gets weapons meant for Hamas", that doesn't mean shit really.Your previous links were from July actually

The peace maker..

 

[TheOldSchool]

ISIS calls Hamas 'apostates', pledges to fight them in Gaza

They've made peace since July..Try to keep current


ISIS Commander Meets With Hamas in Gaza

L. TODD WOOD: ISIS commander meets with Hamas in Gaza

EXCLUSIVE: Hamas Foils Mass ISIS Prison Break In Gaza

Hamas, Hezbollah condemn ISIS terror attacks, but Palestinian Authority blames Israel instead | Christian News on Christian Today

News - ISIS may have seized weapons from interdicted shipment to Hamas

Please follow your own advice and try to stay current.

Actually i am current those are a month old I'm sure negotiations are ongoing. Iran gives Hamas money other than that Hamas is Sunni, like isis, two peas in a pod

My last article is more current than yours. And all 3 prove your last July comment false.

the last article is "isis gets weapons meant for Hamas", that doesn't mean shit really.Your previous links were from July actually

The peace maker..

Those links were from mid-November genius. Keep lying.

 

[ChrisL]

They've made peace since July..Try to keep current


ISIS Commander Meets With Hamas in Gaza

L. TODD WOOD: ISIS commander meets with Hamas in Gaza

EXCLUSIVE: Hamas Foils Mass ISIS Prison Break In Gaza

Hamas, Hezbollah condemn ISIS terror attacks, but Palestinian Authority blames Israel instead | Christian News on Christian Today

News - ISIS may have seized weapons from interdicted shipment to Hamas

Please follow your own advice and try to stay current.

Actually i am current those are a month old I'm sure negotiations are ongoing. Iran gives Hamas money other than that Hamas is Sunni, like isis, two peas in a pod

My last article is more current than yours. And all 3 prove your last July comment false.

the last article is "isis gets weapons meant for Hamas", that doesn't mean shit really.Your previous links were from July actually

The peace maker..

Those links were from mid-November genius. Keep lying.

Who cares? Both are losers.

 

[Jroc]

They've made peace since July..Try to keep current


ISIS Commander Meets With Hamas in Gaza

L. TODD WOOD: ISIS commander meets with Hamas in Gaza

EXCLUSIVE: Hamas Foils Mass ISIS Prison Break In Gaza

Hamas, Hezbollah condemn ISIS terror attacks, but Palestinian Authority blames Israel instead | Christian News on Christian Today

News - ISIS may have seized weapons from interdicted shipment to Hamas

Please follow your own advice and try to stay current.

Actually i am current those are a month old I'm sure negotiations are ongoing. Iran gives Hamas money other than that Hamas is Sunni, like isis, two peas in a pod

My last article is more current than yours. And all 3 prove your last July comment false.

the last article is "isis gets weapons meant for Hamas", that doesn't mean shit really.Your previous links were from July actually

The peace maker..

Those links were from mid-November genius. Keep lying.

Are you stupid or what? ..Yes, yes you are stupid. Is Hamas your preferred Terrorist group?

 

[TheOldSchool]

EXCLUSIVE: Hamas Foils Mass ISIS Prison Break In Gaza

Hamas, Hezbollah condemn ISIS terror attacks, but Palestinian Authority blames Israel instead | Christian News on Christian Today

News - ISIS may have seized weapons from interdicted shipment to Hamas

Please follow your own advice and try to stay current.

Actually i am current those are a month old I'm sure negotiations are ongoing. Iran gives Hamas money other than that Hamas is Sunni, like isis, two peas in a pod

My last article is more current than yours. And all 3 prove your last July comment false.

the last article is "isis gets weapons meant for Hamas", that doesn't mean shit really.Your previous links were from July actually

The peace maker..

Those links were from mid-November genius. Keep lying.

Are you stupid or what? ..Yes, yes you are stupid. Is Hamas your preferred Terrorist group?

^ fail