Workers At Donald Trump's Las Vegas Hotel Vote To Unionize

[davecmarino]

Las Vegas Unions are very political animals of the Democratic Party. This was just more dirty politics by the Democrats and is just an attack on him because he is running against them. He has been in Vegas for years and they never went after him until now. The unions in Vegas absolutely suck. They destroyed employment in the casinos by helping to keep wages low through drastic minority employment programs that push out longer term higher wage employees in favor of foreign labor. Station Casinos even has a program that specifically higher a illegals on an immigrant work visa instead of offering the job to a legal local in order to keep the wages down. The union doesn't care because they still get their cut.


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[bripat9643]

The decline of unions has lead to the decline of the middle class .

No sir, Big Government is to blame... Don't believe my just think of how much you hate Bush.

How is "big gov" to blame ?

Without unions the workers are powerless vs management .

big government enforces union extortion.

 

[sealybobo]

I'd let them all go... They can call me names, but they can do it without a job that I gave them.

I'm so happy that Unions are fading away more and more every single year.

You have no idea how important unions are.

No coincidence as union membership has declined so have wages.

 

[sealybobo]

I'd let them all go... They can call me names, but they can do it without a job that I gave them.

I'm so happy that Unions are fading away more and more every single year.

You have no idea how important unions are.

No coincidence as union membership has declined so have wages.

 

[CowboyTed]

Job security in free enterprise comes from delivering, job security from belonging to a Union comes from, well, belonging to a Union

Don't fully agree.

Unions are an economic entity and should behave as such.

Unionizing to extort more money from Trump is stupid and why Unions are becoming less relevant every day.

A good union will add value to a company.

According to the Culinary Union, Trump Hotel employees earn $3.33 less on average than workers who do the same jobs at the Bellagio, Wynn, Caesar’s Palace, the Stratosphere and all of the other 95% of Las Vegas resorts which have organized labor representing hotel staff. In addition to better wages and benefits, organizers are demanding equal treatment and respect, an allusion to the nationalist rhetoric Trump has used throughout his campaign.
Trump Hotel workers use candidate's anti-Latino rhetoric to galvanize union

I agree unions can be a great asset for companies but it looks like Trump had this coming. He was underpaying and you get this.

 

[MikeK]

Las Vegas Unions are very political animals of the Democratic Party. This was just more dirty politics by the Democrats and is just an attack on him because he is running against them.

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That is Trump Gang propaganda.

The simple fact is the organizers took advantage of a strategically perfect opportunity to unionize a group of underpaid workers. If Trump resists them he will alienate tens of thousands of union members who presently support him.

 

[davecmarino]

Las Vegas Unions are very political animals of the Democratic Party. This was just more dirty politics by the Democrats and is just an attack on him because he is running against them.

[...]

That is Trump Gang propaganda.

The simple fact is the organizers took advantage of a strategically perfect opportunity to unionize a group of underpaid workers. If Trump resists them he will alienate tens of thousands of union members who presently support him.

Whatever Mike. I lived there for 2 decades. I know exactly what I am taking about. Saw it in the culinary Union, the carpenters union, and the teamsters. I've got years of examples of union games.


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[MikeK]

Job security in free enterprise comes from delivering, job security from belonging to a Union comes from, well, belonging to a Union

If you happen to be an American worker do you also happen to know where the 40-hour work-week came from? How about your minimal two-week vacation? If you enjoy certain other benefits, such as safe working conditions in your workplace, where do you think they come from. If you earn a decent wage, even if your shop is non-union you enjoy that benefit because your employer wishes to avoid having a union break in -- otherwise you would be working for peanuts.

You evidently are in desperate need of education on this subject. The following is a list of books I highly recommend to you:

There is Power in a Union: The Epic Story of Labor in America
by Philip Dray

Triangle: The Fire That Changed America
by David von Drehle

Growing Up in Coal Country
by Susan Campbell Bartoletti

Trade Unions Under Capitalism
by Tom Clarke

Sweat and Blood: A History of U.S. Labor Unions
by Gloria Skurzynski

Power and Privilege: Labor Unions in America
by Morgan O. Reynolds

Why Unions Matter
by Michael D. Yates

Strike: Mother Jones and the Colorado Coal Field War
by Lois Ruby

Which Side Are You On?: The Story of a Song
by George Ella Lyon

If you don't care to read, the following is a list of entertaining but educational movies which are based on facts:


Harlan County USA

Norma Rae

The Molly McGuires

On The Waterfront

Silkwood

Matewan

Hoffa

If you are an American worker you need to know the things those books and movies can teach you. Or your children are likely to end up in the same position the American work-force was in before the union movement began and a lot of blood was shed to win the benefits you presently enjoy.

 

[Kosh]

Job security in free enterprise comes from delivering, job security from belonging to a Union comes from, well, belonging to a Union

Don't fully agree.

Unions are an economic entity and should behave as such.

Unionizing to extort more money from Trump is stupid and why Unions are becoming less relevant every day.

A good union will add value to a company.

According to the Culinary Union, Trump Hotel employees earn $3.33 less on average than workers who do the same jobs at the Bellagio, Wynn, Caesar’s Palace, the Stratosphere and all of the other 95% of Las Vegas resorts which have organized labor representing hotel staff. In addition to better wages and benefits, organizers are demanding equal treatment and respect, an allusion to the nationalist rhetoric Trump has used throughout his campaign.
Trump Hotel workers use candidate's anti-Latino rhetoric to galvanize union

I agree unions can be a great asset for companies but it looks like Trump had this coming. He was underpaying and you get this.

Wait until they realize that the $3.33 plus a lot more per hour will go to the union..

 

[MikeK]

Whatever Mike. I lived there for 2 decades. I know exactly what I am taking about. Saw it in the culinary Union, the carpenters union, and the teamsters. I've got years of examples of union games.

Dave,

I'm not suggesting that all unions are good, clean and ethical, or that all unions are without warts. Like any other well established political entity corruption has found its way in where some unions are concerned. But overall the union movement was the best thing ever happened to working class Americans -- including those who never belonged to one.

My son-in-law went to work for UPS over twenty years ago. He started sorting packages on the 12-8 (midnight) shift. After two years he moved to loading trucks. Then he got his union book (Teamsters) and started as a helper on a truck route. From there he became a driver.

He paid $2,500 to an outfit to learn how to drive eighteen-wheelers, which is what he does today for UPS. He has a steady airport run that he loves.

He never graduated high-school but you should see the home he bought on Long Island. He has a new car. My daughter has her own car. My grand-kids go to Catholic school and that family wants for nothing -- all thanks to the Teamsters union!

And the Teamsters is only one of the better ones. If you happen to know of one Local which has gone bad, please don't toss out the baby with the bathwater and turn against all unions. Because unions are the reason there is an American Middle Class.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Job security in free enterprise comes from delivering, job security from belonging to a Union comes from, well, belonging to a Union

Don't fully agree.

Unions are an economic entity and should behave as such.

Unionizing to extort more money from Trump is stupid and why Unions are becoming less relevant every day.

A good union will add value to a company.

According to the Culinary Union, Trump Hotel employees earn $3.33 less on average than workers who do the same jobs at the Bellagio, Wynn, Caesar’s Palace, the Stratosphere and all of the other 95% of Las Vegas resorts which have organized labor representing hotel staff. In addition to better wages and benefits, organizers are demanding equal treatment and respect, an allusion to the nationalist rhetoric Trump has used throughout his campaign.
Trump Hotel workers use candidate's anti-Latino rhetoric to galvanize union

I agree unions can be a great asset for companies but it looks like Trump had this coming. He was underpaying and you get this.

In this case, I would say that they agreed to work for that pay.

There is no law that requires he pay them the same as others.

We'll see what it does.

My point was that if labor unions were to focus on quality and actually negotiate for say a share of the profits (risking a lower wage in economic downturns), a company would probably be interested. Especially if the Union took on the sole role of training and safety.

In essence contracting to the company.

With today's workforce woes, it seems that a company would welcome this and recognize the value.

 

[davecmarino]

Whatever Mike. I lived there for 2 decades. I know exactly what I am taking about. Saw it in the culinary Union, the carpenters union, and the teamsters. I've got years of examples of union games.

Dave,

I'm not suggesting that all unions are good, clean and ethical, or that all unions are without warts. Like any other well established political entity corruption has found its way in where some unions are concerned. But overall the union movement was the best thing ever happened to working class Americans -- including those who never belonged to one.

My son-in-law went to work for UPS over twenty years ago. He started sorting packages on the 12-8 (midnight) shift. After two years he moved to loading trucks. Then he got his union book (Teamsters) and started as a helper on a truck route. From there he became a driver.

He paid $2,500 to an outfit to learn how to drive eighteen-wheelers, which is what he does today for UPS. He has a steady airport run that he loves.

He never graduated high-school but you should see the home he bought on Long Island. He has a new car. My daughter has her own car. My grand-kids go to Catholic school and that family wants for nothing -- all thanks to the Teamsters union!

And the Teamsters is only one of the better ones. If you happen to know of one Local which has gone bad, please don't toss out the baby with the bathwater and turn against all unions. Because unions are the reason there is an American Middle Class.

Why do you think that it is because of the Union? Your kid worked hard and worked his way up. He paid his dues and earned his success. Do you really think that his hard work wouldn't have paid off without a Union? Most decent jobs today offer medical and a 401k. Your kid didn't need the Union. UPS and the Union needed him.


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[Sun Devil 92]

Whatever Mike. I lived there for 2 decades. I know exactly what I am taking about. Saw it in the culinary Union, the carpenters union, and the teamsters. I've got years of examples of union games.

Dave,

I'm not suggesting that all unions are good, clean and ethical, or that all unions are without warts. Like any other well established political entity corruption has found its way in where some unions are concerned. But overall the union movement was the best thing ever happened to working class Americans -- including those who never belonged to one.

My son-in-law went to work for UPS over twenty years ago. He started sorting packages on the 12-8 (midnight) shift. After two years he moved to loading trucks. Then he got his union book (Teamsters) and started as a helper on a truck route. From there he became a driver.

He paid $2,500 to an outfit to learn how to drive eighteen-wheelers, which is what he does today for UPS. He has a steady airport run that he loves.

He never graduated high-school but you should see the home he bought on Long Island. He has a new car. My daughter has her own car. My grand-kids go to Catholic school and that family wants for nothing -- all thanks to the Teamsters union!

And the Teamsters is only one of the better ones. If you happen to know of one Local which has gone bad, please don't toss out the baby with the bathwater and turn against all unions. Because unions are the reason there is an American Middle Class.

New York would seems a special case where Unions operate on borderline extortion.

It would be great if the amount of money we paid for shipping could support that kind of lifestyle....but someone is paying for it.

And if I was paying that much for shipping...I'd stop in a heartbeat.

 

[MikeK]

Wait until they realize that the $3.33 plus a lot more per hour will go to the union..

Highly unlikely. But if something like that happens it is the exception and not the rule. There are bad unions -- the UAW (United Auto Workers) being a good example. But the reason any union goes bad is because the membership becomes apathetic. They don't pay attention, they don't attend meetings, and they elect the wrong people.

A good union is the workers' best friend and turning against unions in general is a very bad mistake.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Job security in free enterprise comes from delivering, job security from belonging to a Union comes from, well, belonging to a Union

If you happen to be an American worker do you also happen to know where the 40-hour work-week came from? How about your minimal two-week vacation? If you enjoy certain other benefits, such as safe working conditions in your workplace, where do you think they come from. If you earn a decent wage, even if your shop is non-union you enjoy that benefit because your employer wishes to avoid having a union break in -- otherwise you would be working for peanuts.

You evidently are in desperate need of education on this subject. The following is a list of books I highly recommend to you:

There is Power in a Union: The Epic Story of Labor in America
by Philip Dray

Triangle: The Fire That Changed America
by David von Drehle

Growing Up in Coal Country
by Susan Campbell Bartoletti

Trade Unions Under Capitalism
by Tom Clarke

Sweat and Blood: A History of U.S. Labor Unions
by Gloria Skurzynski

Power and Privilege: Labor Unions in America
by Morgan O. Reynolds

Why Unions Matter
by Michael D. Yates

Strike: Mother Jones and the Colorado Coal Field War
by Lois Ruby

Which Side Are You On?: The Story of a Song
by George Ella Lyon

If you don't care to read, the following is a list of entertaining but educational movies which are based on facts:


Harlan County USA

Norma Rae

The Molly McGuires

On The Waterfront

Silkwood

Matewan

Hoffa

If you are an American worker you need to know the things those books and movies can teach you. Or your children are likely to end up in the same position the American work-force was in before the union movement began and a lot of blood was shed to win the benefits you presently enjoy.

Sounds like propaganda to me.

Unions are an added cost. Or they can be. Especially in construction...they lower productivity rates. That is one reason new processing plants don't get built in the U.S.

Have you ever compared the car assembly plants in the south to the ones in Detroit ?

I like what Unions could do....but their days of righting the wrongs of the robber barons are long past.

 

[SwimExpert]

I'd let them all go... They can call me names, but they can do it without a job that I gave them.

I'm so happy that Unions are fading away more and more every single year.

Spoken like a life long McDonalds drive-thru slob. You'd go and fire your entire staff and force the business to grind to a halt, all because you don't like their decision?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

A good union is the workers' best friend and turning against unions in general is a very bad mistake.

Says who ?

Turning against todays unions is just turning on organized greed.

A good Union should shine and companies know when they have a good thing.

 

[SwimExpert]

Without unions the workers are powerless vs management .

That is 100% untrue.

 

[Wildman]

What do you have against unions?

that's a joke...., RIGHT??

 

[jasonnfree]

The decline of unions has lead to the decline of the middle class .

No sir, Big Government is to blame... Don't believe my just think of how much you hate Bush.

How is "big gov" to blame ?

Without unions the workers are powerless vs management .

Workers are becoming powerless anyway due to the visa programs, offshoring and outsourcing of jobs.

Don't forget illegals flooding the jobs market. The irony is many domestics positions in hotels are filled by low skill and sometimes illegal immigrants.

Correct. My ex wife had to go back into the in home health care field as a cna after her business went broke during the recession. She says the field's flooded with the 'undocumented'. These women even get certificates of training from the local schools and adult training to get the higher wages. Still, the field pays almost the same as what it did twenty some years ago when she worked in it. Both political parties at fault here, not doing anything about illegal immigration etc.