Will the National GOP learn from Virginia?

[Vox]

What Republicans should learn is what I have said from the start that Libertarians are really just democrat plants to skim off conservative votes so the democrat candidate can win.

Exactly. But that should be uncovered early, not the day of the election.
GOP recently looks like a bunch of amateurs

 

[manifold]

Learn what?

That dimocraps out-spent Republicans almost two to one?

That dimocraps brought in dozens of National figures to campaign for McAuliffe?

That Cuccinelli closed a 12 point gap in a matter of days with NO MONEY?

That Cuccinelli only had 2 weeks to campaign against obamacare and the rest of the Republican party has a year until the mid-terms?

That a dimocrap scumbag and MAJOR dimocrap bundler financed a PHONY FUCKING LIBERTARIAN to siphon votes away from Cuccinelli?
.....

dimocraps put everything they had in this race, complete with the usual cheating and lying. McAuliffe is a former Party Chairman and for him to lose in a Purple State would have been crippling to dimocraps.

That he BARELY won speaks volumes. Yeah, we learned a lot.

How'd we do in New Jersey? One of THE bluest of blue States in the Country.....

look, a win is a win, no matter how much cash the other side spends, voters eventually decide ... sometimes inspite of all the backing by the sugar daddies.

At some point you just have to conceed the inevitable - republicans are losing ground due to tactical errors; not their message.

Their message has become a side-bar to attacking the dems and firing them up to vote against republicans.

He was out-spent nearly two to one.

The Republican establishment ignored him and didn't help.

He closed a 12 point gap down to ??

dimocrap scum ran a phony libertarian backed by dimocrap money against him to siphon votes

I'd say he did pretty good.

And if Patriotic Americans still hold the Assembly, they can block most of the things the dimocrap scumbag wants to do anyway.

A meaningless victory if Republicans keep the Assembly because McAuliffe will be disliked immensely for cheating

And the Walker recall defeat was a big win for the Democrats.

 

[JoeB131]

The main lesson - vet the 'independent' candidates from day one, so dimocrap shills as this'libertarian' can be uncovered sooner, not the day of the election.

Sarvis was a "none of the Above" vote.

Please don't blame him for why Cuch lost.

Cuch lost because women turned on him with his radical views on abortion and family...

 

[billyerock1991]

Opinion: What GOP can learn from Cuccinelli's tanking bid in Virginia - CNN.com

(CNN) -- Virginia is a cautionary tale for conservatives this year. And those Republicans who always argue that their party wins when it moves further to the right are going to have a lot of explaining to do after Election Day.

This was written before the election, but I doubt the GOP will learn a lesson. Their call now is, "But the margin wasn't as big as......"

Actually, the GOP should have kept the Governor's mansion from all historical accounts. And they could have if they had nominated Bill Bolling the moderate Lt Gov. But the TP fanatics and the untra-right out of state money pushed for Coooooch.

This is just a small lesson for the national GOP. Will they heed the warning or continue their march to the right?

the problem the right has is they are listening to the wrong donors ... its not money the gets you elected, its the people ... the republicans haven't learn this in the last two decades ... which is who helps the people and who doesn't ... as soon as the republicans learn this, which I hope they don't, the better off they will be ...

 

[jon_berzerk]

Opinion: What GOP can learn from Cuccinelli's tanking bid in Virginia - CNN.com



This was written before the election, but I doubt the GOP will learn a lesson. Their call now is, "But the margin wasn't as big as......"

Actually, the GOP should have kept the Governor's mansion from all historical accounts. And they could have if they had nominated Bill Bolling the moderate Lt Gov. But the TP fanatics and the untra-right out of state money pushed for Coooooch.

This is just a small lesson for the national GOP. Will they heed the warning or continue their march to the right?

no matter what the lefties say

it is not that big of a win for the democrats

in all essence it was a fake win

by backing a third party candidate

the "people" still feel the same way

about the issues like obamacare

and no slight of hand parlor tricks

will change that

Close only counts in horseshoes, my friend....

and hand gernades

 

[Vox]

The main lesson - vet the 'independent' candidates from day one, so dimocrap shills as this'libertarian' can be uncovered sooner, not the day of the election.

Sarvis was a "none of the Above" vote.

Please don't blame him for why Cuch lost.

Cuch lost because women turned on him with his radical views on abortion and family...

He is a dimocrap shill and if that would be known from the beginning he would not siphon votes.
Cuchinelli did not have any support from GOP money and coming at the end with less than 2% difference( with a dimocrap scum stealing 6%) is a pretty good result - much better than last year.

Vaginas with vocal cords did not matter in this election

 

[billyerock1991]

The main lesson - vet the 'independent' candidates from day one, so dimocrap shills as this'libertarian' can be uncovered sooner, not the day of the election.

Sarvis was a "none of the Above" vote.

Please don't blame him for why Cuch lost.

Cuch lost because women turned on him with his radical views on abortion and family...

that's it in a nut shell

 

[thanatos144]

What Republicans should learn is what I have said from the start that Libertarians are really just democrat plants to skim off conservative votes so the democrat candidate can win.

Exactly. But that should be uncovered early, not the day of the election.
GOP recently looks like a bunch of amateurs

What do you expect? Beck uncovered it and he a libertarian himself endorsed Romney not a real conservative.

 

[JoeB131]

The main lesson - vet the 'independent' candidates from day one, so dimocrap shills as this'libertarian' can be uncovered sooner, not the day of the election.

Sarvis was a "none of the Above" vote.

Please don't blame him for why Cuch lost.

Cuch lost because women turned on him with his radical views on abortion and family...

He is a dimocrap shill and if that would be known from the beginning he would not siphon votes.
Cuchinelli did not have any support from GOP money and coming at the end with less than 2% difference( with a dimocrap scum stealing 6%) is a pretty good result - much better than last year.

Apples and oranges, as these off year elections only have about 30% turnout.

Cuch lost because he was an awful candidate. Period. Blaming the GOP establishment or Sarvis is just a cop-out.

What happened to the party of perosnal responsibility?

 

[lakeview]

yeah, it's horrible that the LP can run any candidate they want to...even if the GOP doesn't approve. The obvious solution to this is to have the GOP decide who can run as third-party candidates, that should fix everything up really nice.

Lord knows that a party whose membership runs the gamut from Fabian Socialist all the way to Constitutional Originalist should be lecturing other parties on the ideological purity of their party and their candidates.

 

[thanatos144]

That he BARELY won speaks volumes. Yeah, we learned a lot.

That in a swing state, voters would rather have a corrupt Democrat has-been than a Tea Party standard-bearer.

Reality hurts sometimes.

Is he really a Tea Party standard-bearer though? He seems more like a bible-thumping Santorum type to me.

Read the first amendment you bigot.

 

[JoeB131]

That in a swing state, voters would rather have a corrupt Democrat has-been than a Tea Party standard-bearer.

Reality hurts sometimes.

Is he really a Tea Party standard-bearer though? He seems more like a bible-thumping Santorum type to me.

Read the first amendment you bigot.

We have. Esepcially the establishment clause that says you can't impose your bronze age superstitions on the rest of us.

 

[WelfareQueen]

This might be a stupid question but I'm not from Virginia and would like someone from there to answer this. Was it Cuccinelli who was the problem or was it the Lt. Gov. candidate? What's been really turning me off about the TP (besides them being associated with the GOP) lately is all of the loudmouth religious nut jobs who seem to think that the TP is their home.

I'm from Virginia...so is Old School. We come from somewhat different sides of the political spectrum, but I think he would agree with this as well.


1. Both were terrible candidates.


2. The Lt Gov race did not make a difference.


3. This race has very little bearing on anything Nationally...just like New Jersey.


4. To cherry pick Virginia and say this means death and doom for the Republicans, and ignore the outcome in New Jersey is foolish.


5. Christie supersedes party in New Jersey. McAuliffe & Cuccinelli superseded party in Virginia. Both were terrible. The voters picked the guy they found the least offensive.

 

[billyerock1991]

The main lesson - vet the 'independent' candidates from day one, so dimocrap shills as this'libertarian' can be uncovered sooner, not the day of the election.

Sarvis was a "none of the Above" vote.

Please don't blame him for why Cuch lost.

Cuch lost because women turned on him with his radical views on abortion and family...

He is a dimocrap shill and if that would be known from the beginning he would not siphon votes.
Cuchinelli did not have any support from GOP money and coming at the end with less than 2% difference( with a dimocrap scum stealing 6%) is a pretty good result - much better than last year.

according to the exit polling, the people who voted for the independent, the count came out from the exit polling was 50/50 ... deal with it...

now heres the part that will piss you off particularly ... the party that wins Virginia wins the countries election... in other words can you deal with the lost of the republicans in 2014 ???? I know I can

 

[martybegan]

Is he really a Tea Party standard-bearer though? He seems more like a bible-thumping Santorum type to me.

Read the first amendment you bigot.

We have. Esepcially the establishment clause that says you can't impose your bronze age superstitions on the rest of us.

Coming from someone who wants to impose stone age methods of defending oneself on everyone except government agents, your statement is comical.

 

[thanatos144]

Is he really a Tea Party standard-bearer though? He seems more like a bible-thumping Santorum type to me.

Read the first amendment you bigot.

We have. Esepcially the establishment clause that says you can't impose your bronze age superstitions on the rest of us.

Actually you ignorant commie it doesn't say that.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Sarvis was a "none of the Above" vote.

Please don't blame him for why Cuch lost.

Cuch lost because women turned on him with his radical views on abortion and family...

He is a dimocrap shill and if that would be known from the beginning he would not siphon votes.
Cuchinelli did not have any support from GOP money and coming at the end with less than 2% difference( with a dimocrap scum stealing 6%) is a pretty good result - much better than last year.

according to the exit polling, the people who voted for the independent, the count came out from the exit polling was 50/50 ... deal with it...

now heres the part that will piss you off particularly ... the party that wins Virginia wins the countries election... in other words can you deal with the lost of the republicans in 2014 ???? I know I can

Complete and utter bullshit. I could say there is zero evidence to support such a partisan conclusion, but that would be too obvious.

 

[JoeB131]

Read the first amendment you bigot.

We have. Esepcially the establishment clause that says you can't impose your bronze age superstitions on the rest of us.

Coming from someone who wants to impose stone age methods of defending oneself on everyone except government agents, your statement is comical.

I'm all for well-regulated militias, just like it says...

 

[billyerock1991]

That in a swing state, voters would rather have a corrupt Democrat has-been than a Tea Party standard-bearer.

Reality hurts sometimes.

Is he really a Tea Party standard-bearer though? He seems more like a bible-thumping Santorum type to me.

Read the first amendment you bigot.

aaaaah can't stand the fact that your bible thumpers are causing the grand Old party to lose???

 

[thanatos144]

GOP Gives Up Virginia To Democrats Instead Of Giving Tea Party and Social Conservatives A Win | Independent Journal Review

Pretty good sum up of what happened in Virginia

Finally, a libertarian third party candidate served as a spoiler, stealing a fair percentage of votes away from Cuccinelli, and diluting the conservative message.