Will the National GOP learn from Virginia?

[martybegan]

The conservative-libertarian vote was greater than the progressive vote. Virginia isnt a place for republicans to fall on thier sword.

Works on the assumption that the libertarians who voted against Cuccinelli would have voted for him if htey didn't have the third party option.

You know, some of those Libertarians were probably generally worried that Cuccinelli wanted to impose his religion on the rest of the state.

And some merely voted for Sarvis because both of these guys were asshats...

Those libertarians would never have voted for a gun grabber.

At most they would have stayed home, but how many?

 

[earlycuyler]

What I learned is that the two candidates were not liked and that most voters felt like their choices were a big fat douche, or giant turd sandwhich. How screwed up it is in.America when your only options are which one sucks the least. I do hope this is not an indicator of 2016, but figger it will be just like 08 and 12.

 

[JoeB131]

You don't think Libertarians are as afraid of having their kids shot by a Second Amendment Originalist as most people are?

 

[JimH52]

The conservative-libertarian vote was greater than the progressive vote. Virginia isnt a place for republicans to fall on thier sword.

Works on the assumption that the libertarians who voted against Cuccinelli would have voted for him if htey didn't have the third party option.

You know, some of those Libertarians were probably generally worried that Cuccinelli wanted to impose his religion on the rest of the state.

And some merely voted for Sarvis because both of these guys were asshats...

Cooch left no doubt that he was not a friend to females. His stance on contraceptive, his vaginal probe push, and his abortion dogma sealed his fate. I am sure the TP types in the state rose up for Ken, but it was not enough.

I am afraid the message the estremists in the GOP will get is they must move further to the right. The GOP establishment does not know how to control them when they insist on another RW loon in a promary. Karl Rove has his work cut out for him....

 

[martybegan]

You don't think Libertarians are as afraid of having their kids shot by a Second Amendment Originalist as most people are?

Find me a libertarian who thinks all guns should be banned, or approves of gun laws that that dem asshole in virigina will try to pass.

Libertarians are about the consitution, unlike fascists such as yourself.

 

[JimH52]

The Tea Party has to take control of the GOP and we will by the end of 2016

AH! I knew Frank would come up with the solution!

 

[JoeB131]

You don't think Libertarians are as afraid of having their kids shot by a Second Amendment Originalist as most people are?

Find me a libertarian who thinks all guns should be banned, or approves of gun laws that that dem asshole in virigina will try to pass.

Libertarians are about the consitution, unlike fascists such as yourself.

Yawn, guy...

They also don't want crazy people like Cho being able to walk into a gun store and buy himself a small arsenal...

Incidently, I don't think most of those who voted for Sarvis were "Libertarians" so much as they were folks who just didn't like either of the two choices.

 

[martybegan]

You don't think Libertarians are as afraid of having their kids shot by a Second Amendment Originalist as most people are?

Find me a libertarian who thinks all guns should be banned, or approves of gun laws that that dem asshole in virigina will try to pass.

Libertarians are about the consitution, unlike fascists such as yourself.

Yawn, guy...

They also don't want crazy people like Cho being able to walk into a gun store and buy himself a small arsenal...

Incidently, I don't think most of those who voted for Sarvis were "Libertarians" so much as they were folks who just didn't like either of the two choices.

Nice dodge of the question there, dillhole.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

What should be learned, is that the system is a failure completely. The in-fighting of the republican party is the direct result of the last two national election cycles and on down into the local precincts. the 2010 and 2012 elections is showing more than ever, that the grassroots of voters agree on core libertarian issues. Civil liberties, fiscal responsibility and limited constitutional government. The problem is, that main stream republicans an democrats aren't for these cuases in anyway except rhetoric. The republicans marginalized a giant base of voters when it treated Ron Paul and his coalition like a bunch of second class k00k citizens who didn't deserve a seat at the table. The Tea Party is the organized and growing voice of that movement left behind. And yes, they are drawing some rather sketchy ideas amongst the tent.

Republicans can either get with the times, stop just preaching fiscal responsibility, and limited government and actually achieving it, or go the way of the Whigs and other party's that out grow their own pants and tried to keep wearing them.

Frankly, I'm surprised the tea party guy lost. it was a close race for sure. Unlike Lhota and the Limo LOLberal de Blahsio.

 

[Edgetho]

What I learned is that the two candidates were not liked and that most voters felt like their choices were a big fat douche, or giant turd sandwhich. How screwed up it is in.America when your only options are which one sucks the least. I do hope this is not an indicator of 2016, but figger it will be just like 08 and 12.

Look, people.... <sigh>

You're not necessarily voting for the 'man' or the woman. You're voting for the Party.

When a Party takes over the executive Branch of Government, they bring with them HUNDREDS of apparatchiks, bureaucrats and appointees.

THAT is what you should think about.... Do you want Professionals, people with Business experience, people with hands-on, real life experience running things or do you want educated idiots who only know theory?

Look at what we have in Washington DC right now. A disaster waiting to happen. Unemployment is still horrible -- Worse among Blacks now than when the Stuttering CLusterfuck took Office.

Average Income is actually DOWN compared to what it was before the Stuttering Clusterfuck took Office.

Our Foreign Policy is a fucking joke.

And the latest headlines of how incredibly stupid, dishonest and incompetent dimocrap scum are can be found on the Front Page of every Newspaper and in the Lead-In of every TV News Program in the Country..... obamacare.

obama didn't write that bill. He's way too stupid. obama didn't add in the deatils. obama didn't design the website. obama didn't cancel all those Health Policies on people with cancer and children with Special Needs....

The people he hired did. And those people? Idiots. From Academia and the bowels of the dimocrap party.

Stupid people.

You don't have to LOVE the candidate you're voting for, it's the apparatus he or she brings with them that counts.

dimocrap scum bring socialists, educated idiots and Pie-In-The-Sky theorists with them that don't know whether to shit or make a sandwich when it comes to real life.

Republicans bring Adults with them that know what they're doing.

Your choice. You get the government you deserve

Whatever

 

[JoeB131]

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You're not necessarily voting for the 'man' or the woman. You're voting for the Party.

When a Party takes over the executive Branch of Government, they bring with them HUNDREDS of apparatchiks, bureaucrats and appointees.

THAT is what you should think about.... Do you want Professionals, people with Business experience, people with hands-on, real life experience running things or do you want educated idiots who only know theory?

Look at what we have in Washington DC right now. A disaster waiting to happen. Unemployment is still horrible -- Worse among Blacks now than when the Stuttering CLusterfuck took Office.

Average Income is actually DOWN compared to what it was before the Stuttering Clusterfuck took Office.

Our Foreign Policy is a fucking joke.

And the latest headlines of how incredibly stupid, dishonest and incompetent dimocrap scum are can be found on the Front Page of every Newspaper and in the Lead-In of every TV News Program in the Country..... obamacare.

obama didn't write that bill. He's way too stupid. obama didn't add in the deatils. obama didn't design the website. obama didn't cancel all those Health Policies on people with cancer and children with Special Needs....

The people he hired did. And those people? Idiots. From Academia and the bowels of the dimocrap party.

Stupid people.

You don't have to LOVE the candidate you're voting for, it's the apparatus he or she brings with them that counts.

dimocrap scum bring socialists, educated idiots and Pie-In-The-Sky theorists with them that don't know whether to shit or make a sandwich when it comes to real life.

Republicans bring Adults with them that know what they're doing.

Your choice. You get the government you deserve

Whatever

Invading the wrong country or letting a major city get washed out to see doesn't convince me that the GOP has people who know what they are doing.

When you put the Horse Show guy in charge of FEMA, you don't know what you are doing.

When you appoint the guy who lets his regulators watch Porn all day while Lehman and Goldman-Sacks loot the banking system is not bringing in teh "Adults".

The GOP USED to be able to claim that even though they were heartless dicks, they could get the job done.

That reputation ended in 2008 when it was obvious they couldn't.

 

[Edgetho]

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dimocrap scum bring socialists, educated idiots and Pie-In-The-Sky theorists with them that don't know whether to shit or make a sandwich when it comes to real life.

Republicans bring Adults with them that know what they're doing.

Your choice. You get the government you deserve

Whatever

Invading the wrong country or letting a major city get washed out to see doesn't convince me that the GOP has people who know what they are doing.

When you put the Horse Show guy in charge of FEMA, you don't know what you are doing.

When you appoint the guy who lets his regulators watch Porn all day while Lehman and Goldman-Sacks loot the banking system is not bringing in teh "Adults".

The GOP USED to be able to claim that even though they were heartless dicks, they could get the job done.

That reputation ended in 2008 when it was obvious they couldn't.

I'm gonna ask you nicely one time....

Stop altering my quotes.

 

[JWBooth]

You don't think Libertarians are as afraid of having their kids shot by a Second Amendment Originalist as most people are?

Most of us think ATF should be a convenience store, not a regulating agency.

 

[JoeB131]

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dimocrap scum bring socialists, educated idiots and Pie-In-The-Sky theorists with them that don't know whether to shit or make a sandwich when it comes to real life.

Republicans bring Adults with them that know what they're doing.

Your choice. You get the government you deserve

Whatever

Invading the wrong country or letting a major city get washed out to see doesn't convince me that the GOP has people who know what they are doing.

When you put the Horse Show guy in charge of FEMA, you don't know what you are doing.

When you appoint the guy who lets his regulators watch Porn all day while Lehman and Goldman-Sacks loot the banking system is not bringing in teh "Adults".

The GOP USED to be able to claim that even though they were heartless dicks, they could get the job done.

That reputation ended in 2008 when it was obvious they couldn't.

I'm gonna ask you nicely one time....

Stop altering my quotes.

I didn't altar your quote, I just addressed the salient part because you were taking up half the page repeating yourself. But Iput it back in because gosh darn, I'm sure repeating your tiresome five minute hate of Obama that consumes every moment of your sad life is really important.

Now how about addressing the point.

After George W. Bush, can you really claim honestly the GOP brings in people who "know what they are doing"?

Seriously?

Because that's what you are aruging. Bush fucked up everyone's life, which is why Obama won. And Romney didn't promise anything better.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Opinion: What GOP can learn from Cuccinelli's tanking bid in Virginia - CNN.com

(CNN) -- Virginia is a cautionary tale for conservatives this year. And those Republicans who always argue that their party wins when it moves further to the right are going to have a lot of explaining to do after Election Day.

This was written before the election, but I doubt the GOP will learn a lesson. Their call now is, "But the margin wasn't as big as......"

Actually, the GOP should have kept the Governor's mansion from all historical accounts. And they could have if they had nominated Bill Bolling the moderate Lt Gov. But the TP fanatics and the untra-right out of state money pushed for Coooooch.

This is just a small lesson for the national GOP. Will they heed the warning or continue their march to the right?

no matter what the lefties say

it is not that big of a win for the democrats

in all essence it was a fake win

by backing a third party candidate

the "people" still feel the same way

about the issues like obamacare

and no slight of hand parlor tricks

will change that

 

[Vox]

The main lesson - vet the 'independent' candidates from day one, so dimocrap shills as this'libertarian' can be uncovered sooner, not the day of the election.

 

[jon_berzerk]

The main lesson - vet the 'independent' candidates from day one, so dimocrap shills as this'libertarian' can be uncovered sooner, not the day of the election.

yes

 

[thanatos144]

What Republicans should learn is what I have said from the start that Libertarians are really just democrat plants to skim off conservative votes so the democrat candidate can win.

 

[JimH52]

Opinion: What GOP can learn from Cuccinelli's tanking bid in Virginia - CNN.com

(CNN) -- Virginia is a cautionary tale for conservatives this year. And those Republicans who always argue that their party wins when it moves further to the right are going to have a lot of explaining to do after Election Day.

This was written before the election, but I doubt the GOP will learn a lesson. Their call now is, "But the margin wasn't as big as......"

Actually, the GOP should have kept the Governor's mansion from all historical accounts. And they could have if they had nominated Bill Bolling the moderate Lt Gov. But the TP fanatics and the untra-right out of state money pushed for Coooooch.

This is just a small lesson for the national GOP. Will they heed the warning or continue their march to the right?

no matter what the lefties say

it is not that big of a win for the democrats

in all essence it was a fake win

by backing a third party candidate

the "people" still feel the same way

about the issues like obamacare

and no slight of hand parlor tricks

will change that

Close only counts in horseshoes, my friend....

 

[manifold]

That he BARELY won speaks volumes. Yeah, we learned a lot.

That in a swing state, voters would rather have a corrupt Democrat has-been than a Tea Party standard-bearer.

Reality hurts sometimes.

Is he really a Tea Party standard-bearer though? He seems more like a bible-thumping Santorum type to me.