Why would an omnipotent God need Moses, Abraham or Mohammed?

[hangover]

If God has the power to create the universe, there is no need to have humans do his bidding. If God wants people to be Christians or Muslims or any other religion, there wouldn't be any other religion except the one God wanted. But it's not God that makes religion, it's people. If God wants something done, God doesn't need people to do it for him. God doesn't need anyone to speak for him...or her...or them(Genesis 3:22)

An omnipotent being doesn't need a war to end evil. It was created it with a thought, and can end it the same way. But God allows it to do it's purpose, which gives a choice. The function of evil is to destroy, so logically it will destroy itself. Just like if someone becomes evil, they destroy themselves.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Yup organized religion is bullshit. Some people need it to get theough their day though so I try not to knock it except when they try to work their beliefs into the law or replace scince with it.

 

[hadit]

To the OP, God always allows man to choose to worship or not. If He always simply forced us into the way He wanted, there is no choice at all. Hence, He uses those willing to live for Him.

 

[Penelope]

Its the fundamentalist and evangelicals , they may not be using rifle, but they are with their mouths and their propaganda hate speeches and end of days crap.

 

[irosie91]

Its the fundamentalist and evangelicals , they may not be using rifle, but they are with their mouths and their propaganda hate speeches and end of days crap.

Your post is not only annoying, idiotic and ungrammatical, it is also off-topic.
The topic is ----the PUTATIVE OMNIPOTENCE OF GOD. Would you like
to comment? Do you "imagine" or "know" if there are people whose
concept of "GOD" is a being OMNIPOTENT?

 

[Penelope]

Its the fundamentalist and evangelicals , they may not be using rifle, but they are with their mouths and their propaganda hate speeches and end of days crap.

Your post is not only annoying, idiotic and ungrammatical, it is also off-topic.
The topic is ----the PUTATIVE OMNIPOTENCE OF GOD. Would you like
to comment? Do you "imagine" or "know" if there are people whose
concept of "GOD" is a being OMNIPOTENT?

Well God certainty wouldn't write the books of the OT, so all your scribes are full of it. How is that?

 

[irosie91]

Its the fundamentalist and evangelicals , they may not be using rifle, but they are with their mouths and their propaganda hate speeches and end of days crap.

Your post is not only annoying, idiotic and ungrammatical, it is also off-topic.
The topic is ----the PUTATIVE OMNIPOTENCE OF GOD. Would you like
to comment? Do you "imagine" or "know" if there are people whose
concept of "GOD" is a being OMNIPOTENT?

Well God certainty wouldn't write the books of the OT, so all your scribes are full of it. How is that?

how do you know? you never read it. In fact you even imagine that it was written some time----like a few hundred years BC -----in Alexandria, Egypt-----
in Greek ----or so you claimed (being 'full of it') ------If you had read
the book-----you would have learned that "G-d" as described in those books is
NOT OMNIPOTENT-------In terms of mysticism He gave up some of His
power to living creatures that have freewill-----MOSTLY humans who
have the most freewill. -------even more than do "angels". An interesting point
of the many ancient books of fine literature that you have missed by depending
on classic comics in Junior High School ----IS......that the issue of free-will is a
major theme thruout. Remember "the odyssey"-----that fact is apparent even in
the classic comic version

 

[Penelope]

Its the fundamentalist and evangelicals , they may not be using rifle, but they are with their mouths and their propaganda hate speeches and end of days crap.

Your post is not only annoying, idiotic and ungrammatical, it is also off-topic.
The topic is ----the PUTATIVE OMNIPOTENCE OF GOD. Would you like
to comment? Do you "imagine" or "know" if there are people whose
concept of "GOD" is a being OMNIPOTENT?

Well God certainty wouldn't write the books of the OT, so all your scribes are full of it. How is that?

how do you know? you never read it. In fact you even imagine that it was written some time----like a few hundred years BC -----in Alexandria, Egypt-----
in Greek ----or so you claimed (being 'full of it') ------If you had read
the book-----you would have learned that "G-d" as described in those books is
NOT OMNIPOTENT-------In terms of mysticism He gave up some of His
power to living creatures that have freewill-----MOSTLY humans who
have the most freewill. -------even more than do "angels". An interesting point
of the many ancient books of fine literature that you have missed by depending
on classic comics in Junior High School ----IS......that the issue of free-will is a
major theme thruout. Remember "the odyssey"-----that fact is apparent even in
the classic comic version

Yes lets see you create the universe, your nuts and your OT is full of racism , adultery, bloodshed, stoning, polygamy, and stories you stole from the Canaanites, Egyptians, Persians , Greeks and Rome.

 

[Avatar4321]

If God has the power to create the universe, there is no need to have humans do his bidding. If God wants people to be Christians or Muslims or any other religion, there wouldn't be any other religion except the one God wanted. But it's not God that makes religion, it's people. If God wants something done, God doesn't need people to do it for him. God doesn't need anyone to speak for him...or her...or them(Genesis 3:22)

An omnipotent being doesn't need a war to end evil. It was created it with a thought, and can end it the same way. But God allows it to do it's purpose, which gives a choice. The function of evil is to destroy, so logically it will destroy itself. Just like if someone becomes evil, they destroy themselves.

End evil? Evil is a counter point for good. Good cannot exist without evil and vice versa. We cannot be good without choosing it over evil.

Good and evil are eternal states of being. They have always existed. How do I know? Because God is Eternal. He is good and He has always existed. If good has always existed, so has its opposite.

The plan of redemption was put in place because all of us do evil at some point. If God were to appear to us in our fallen state we would be destroyed for our corruptness cannot exist in His Holy presence.

So God calls and prepares men to teach us His plan. So that we might prepare ourselves through the atonement of His Son to enter into His presence. We can be purified and born again with a New nature.

If God did things your way, we would all be immediately killed. Personally I am.glad the Lord has mercy on us to give us a probationary period to repent and come to Him

 

[Avatar4321]

Its the fundamentalist and evangelicals , they may not be using rifle, but they are with their mouths and their propaganda hate speeches and end of days crap.

Your post is not only annoying, idiotic and ungrammatical, it is also off-topic.
The topic is ----the PUTATIVE OMNIPOTENCE OF GOD. Would you like
to comment? Do you "imagine" or "know" if there are people whose
concept of "GOD" is a being OMNIPOTENT?

Well God certainty wouldn't write the books of the OT, so all your scribes are full of it. How is that?

how do you know? you never read it. In fact you even imagine that it was written some time----like a few hundred years BC -----in Alexandria, Egypt-----
in Greek ----or so you claimed (being 'full of it') ------If you had read
the book-----you would have learned that "G-d" as described in those books is
NOT OMNIPOTENT-------In terms of mysticism He gave up some of His
power to living creatures that have freewill-----MOSTLY humans who
have the most freewill. -------even more than do "angels". An interesting point
of the many ancient books of fine literature that you have missed by depending
on classic comics in Junior High School ----IS......that the issue of free-will is a
major theme thruout. Remember "the odyssey"-----that fact is apparent even in
the classic comic version

Yes lets see you create the universe, your nuts and your OT is full of racism , adultery, bloodshed, stoning, polygamy, and stories you stole from the Canaanites, Egyptians, Persians , Greeks and Rome.

In other words it's full of humans being human.

 

[irosie91]

Its the fundamentalist and evangelicals , they may not be using rifle, but they are with their mouths and their propaganda hate speeches and end of days crap.

Your post is not only annoying, idiotic and ungrammatical, it is also off-topic.
The topic is ----the PUTATIVE OMNIPOTENCE OF GOD. Would you like
to comment? Do you "imagine" or "know" if there are people whose
concept of "GOD" is a being OMNIPOTENT?

Well God certainty wouldn't write the books of the OT, so all your scribes are full of it. How is that?

how do you know? you never read it. In fact you even imagine that it was written some time----like a few hundred years BC -----in Alexandria, Egypt-----
in Greek ----or so you claimed (being 'full of it') ------If you had read
the book-----you would have learned that "G-d" as described in those books is
NOT OMNIPOTENT-------In terms of mysticism He gave up some of His
power to living creatures that have freewill-----MOSTLY humans who
have the most freewill. -------even more than do "angels". An interesting point
of the many ancient books of fine literature that you have missed by depending
on classic comics in Junior High School ----IS......that the issue of free-will is a
major theme thruout. Remember "the odyssey"-----that fact is apparent even in
the classic comic version

Yes lets see you create the universe, your nuts and your OT is full of racism , adultery, bloodshed, stoning, polygamy, and stories you stole from the Canaanites, Egyptians, Persians , Greeks and Rome.

???? "lets see" ----stuck right in the middle of disconnected words and not even a comma. "your" for "you're". I have never met a Canaanite-----
but I have spoken to a Samaritan-----a person likely to be descended
directly from Canaanites. I cannot read hieroglyphics. The books of the
bible came about before the writers had contact with Rome. Contact with
greek culture could be considerd thru Assyria and Philistia -------and YOU accuse
ME----of "stealing their stories" Your moronic scribblings could be a clue to
your origins. Do you have ANY IDEA?

 

[Steven_R]

If God has the power to create the universe, there is no need to have humans do his bidding. If God wants people to be Christians or Muslims or any other religion, there wouldn't be any other religion except the one God wanted. But it's not God that makes religion, it's people. If God wants something done, God doesn't need people to do it for him. God doesn't need anyone to speak for him...or her...or them(Genesis 3:22)

An omnipotent being doesn't need a war to end evil. It was created it with a thought, and can end it the same way. But God allows it to do it's purpose, which gives a choice. The function of evil is to destroy, so logically it will destroy itself. Just like if someone becomes evil, they destroy themselves.

End evil? Evil is a counter point for good. Good cannot exist without evil and vice versa. We cannot be good without choosing it over evil.

Good and evil are eternal states of being. They have always existed. How do I know? Because God is Eternal. He is good and He has always existed. If good has always existed, so has its opposite.

The plan of redemption was put in place because all of us do evil at some point. If God were to appear to us in our fallen state we would be destroyed for our corruptness cannot exist in His Holy presence.

So God calls and prepares men to teach us His plan. So that we might prepare ourselves through the atonement of His Son to enter into His presence. We can be purified and born again with a New nature.

If God did things your way, we would all be immediately killed. Personally I am.glad the Lord has mercy on us to give us a probationary period to repent and come to Him

So part of God's plan for His most beloved of creations is to inflict all kinds of evil and pain on them for His own ends?

Said it before, say it again...God works in mysterious, dickish ways.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Gee, ya mean religion doesn't make sense afterall? (gasps)

 

[Penelope]

Its the fundamentalist and evangelicals , they may not be using rifle, but they are with their mouths and their propaganda hate speeches and end of days crap.

Your post is not only annoying, idiotic and ungrammatical, it is also off-topic.
The topic is ----the PUTATIVE OMNIPOTENCE OF GOD. Would you like
to comment? Do you "imagine" or "know" if there are people whose
concept of "GOD" is a being OMNIPOTENT?

Well God certainty wouldn't write the books of the OT, so all your scribes are full of it. How is that?

how do you know? you never read it. In fact you even imagine that it was written some time----like a few hundred years BC -----in Alexandria, Egypt-----
in Greek ----or so you claimed (being 'full of it') ------If you had read
the book-----you would have learned that "G-d" as described in those books is
NOT OMNIPOTENT-------In terms of mysticism He gave up some of His
power to living creatures that have freewill-----MOSTLY humans who
have the most freewill. -------even more than do "angels". An interesting point
of the many ancient books of fine literature that you have missed by depending
on classic comics in Junior High School ----IS......that the issue of free-will is a
major theme thruout. Remember "the odyssey"-----that fact is apparent even in
the classic comic version

Yes lets see you create the universe, your nuts and your OT is full of racism , adultery, bloodshed, stoning, polygamy, and stories you stole from the Canaanites, Egyptians, Persians , Greeks and Rome.

???? "lets see" ----stuck right in the middle of disconnected words and not even a comma. "your" for "you're". I have never met a Canaanite-----
but I have spoken to a Samaritan-----a person likely to be descended
directly from Canaanites. I cannot read hieroglyphics. The books of the
bible came about before the writers had contact with Rome. Contact with
greek culture could be considerd thru Assyria and Philistia -------and YOU accuse
ME----of "stealing their stories" Your moronic scribblings could be a clue to
your origins. Do you have ANY IDEA?

Oh your so funny, well some of Jacobs sons married Canaanite women and had offspring, maybe your part Canaanite and what American? Those Hebrew men loved the "pagan" women.

 

[Muslim75]

If God has the power to create the universe, there is no need to have humans do his bidding. If God wants people to be Christians or Muslims or any other religion, there wouldn't be any other religion except the one God wanted. But it's not God that makes religion, it's people. If God wants something done, God doesn't need people to do it for him. God doesn't need anyone to speak for him...or her...or them(Genesis 3:22)

An omnipotent being doesn't need a war to end evil. It was created it with a thought, and can end it the same way. But God allows it to do it's purpose, which gives a choice. The function of evil is to destroy, so logically it will destroy itself. Just like if someone becomes evil, they destroy themselves.

Some human beings purify themselves, at which they reach closeness to God and become prophets. They become prophets, or heirs to prophets, or Companions of Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family), or saints of Islam.

End evil? Evil is a counter point for good. Good cannot exist without evil and vice versa. We cannot be good without choosing it over evil.

Good and evil are eternal states of being. They have always existed. How do I know? Because God is Eternal. He is good and He has always existed. If good has always existed, so has its opposite.

The plan of redemption was put in place because all of us do evil at some point. If God were to appear to us in our fallen state we would be destroyed for our corruptness cannot exist in His Holy presence.

So God calls and prepares men to teach us His plan. So that we might prepare ourselves through the atonement of His Son to enter into His presence. We can be purified and born again with a New nature.

If God did things your way, we would all be immediately killed. Personally I am.glad the Lord has mercy on us to give us a probationary period to repent and come to Him

God can be without evil, but He does not wish to. Also, in Islam all, human beings are born innocent. A religion (like Christianity) that claims God created people impure has serious problems.

 

[irosie91]

Your post is not only annoying, idiotic and ungrammatical, it is also off-topic.
The topic is ----the PUTATIVE OMNIPOTENCE OF GOD. Would you like
to comment? Do you "imagine" or "know" if there are people whose
concept of "GOD" is a being OMNIPOTENT?

Well God certainty wouldn't write the books of the OT, so all your scribes are full of it. How is that?

how do you know? you never read it. In fact you even imagine that it was written some time----like a few hundred years BC -----in Alexandria, Egypt-----
in Greek ----or so you claimed (being 'full of it') ------If you had read
the book-----you would have learned that "G-d" as described in those books is
NOT OMNIPOTENT-------In terms of mysticism He gave up some of His
power to living creatures that have freewill-----MOSTLY humans who
have the most freewill. -------even more than do "angels". An interesting point
of the many ancient books of fine literature that you have missed by depending
on classic comics in Junior High School ----IS......that the issue of free-will is a
major theme thruout. Remember "the odyssey"-----that fact is apparent even in
the classic comic version

Yes lets see you create the universe, your nuts and your OT is full of racism , adultery, bloodshed, stoning, polygamy, and stories you stole from the Canaanites, Egyptians, Persians , Greeks and Rome.

???? "lets see" ----stuck right in the middle of disconnected words and not even a comma. "your" for "you're". I have never met a Canaanite-----
but I have spoken to a Samaritan-----a person likely to be descended
directly from Canaanites. I cannot read hieroglyphics. The books of the
bible came about before the writers had contact with Rome. Contact with
greek culture could be considerd thru Assyria and Philistia -------and YOU accuse
ME----of "stealing their stories" Your moronic scribblings could be a clue to
your origins. Do you have ANY IDEA?

Oh your so funny, well some of Jacobs sons married Canaanite women and had offspring, maybe your part Canaanite and what American? Those Hebrew men loved the "pagan" women.

what is funny about marrying Canaanite women? Canaan is part of THE LEVANT-------the people of the Levant admixed Of course I am part Canaanite---
Judaism and Hebrew both developed in the LEVANT---specifically in the land
mass named CANAAN in the bible. I have no ancestral link to
American Indians. What is "those Hebrew men loved pagan women"
supposed to mean? I grew up in a Nazi town in which some of the
white trash nazis would comment that "dem n*&&ers----love white ass"
There was nary a black person in that town until well into the 1970s----
some jew sold his house to a black family. Did you remember anything
about your background yet? I am trying to be helpful.

 

[irosie91]

If God has the power to create the universe, there is no need to have humans do his bidding. If God wants people to be Christians or Muslims or any other religion, there wouldn't be any other religion except the one God wanted. But it's not God that makes religion, it's people. If God wants something done, God doesn't need people to do it for him. God doesn't need anyone to speak for him...or her...or them(Genesis 3:22)

An omnipotent being doesn't need a war to end evil. It was created it with a thought, and can end it the same way. But God allows it to do it's purpose, which gives a choice. The function of evil is to destroy, so logically it will destroy itself. Just like if someone becomes evil, they destroy themselves.

Some human beings purify themselves, at which they reach closeness to God and become prophets. They become prophets, or heirs to prophets, or Companions of Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family), or saints of Islam.

End evil? Evil is a counter point for good. Good cannot exist without evil and vice versa. We cannot be good without choosing it over evil.

Good and evil are eternal states of being. They have always existed. How do I know? Because God is Eternal. He is good and He has always existed. If good has always existed, so has its opposite.

The plan of redemption was put in place because all of us do evil at some point. If God were to appear to us in our fallen state we would be destroyed for our corruptness cannot exist in His Holy presence.

So God calls and prepares men to teach us His plan. So that we might prepare ourselves through the atonement of His Son to enter into His presence. We can be purified and born again with a New nature.

If God did things your way, we would all be immediately killed. Personally I am.glad the Lord has mercy on us to give us a probationary period to repent and come to Him

God can be without evil, but He does not wish to. Also, in Islam all, human beings are born innocent. A religion (like Christianity) that claims God created people impure has serious problems.

a religion (like islam) which claims that a girl who puts a bomb on her whorish
ass and murders babies gets a direct ticket to JANNAH -----is DEPRAVED.
BTW how is SAINT HAYAT doing?-------get any messages from SAINT WHORE
WAFA IDRIS from jannah?

the concept of original sin------is an intellectual issue-----try not to ponder upon it---
it is beyond you

 

[Steven_R]

God can be without evil, but He does not wish to.

That is no god worth worshipping.

 

[irosie91]

God can be without evil, but He does not wish to.

That is no god worth worshipping.

depends on your POV. Lots of cultures worship out of fear-----
the Japanese considered their most barbaric emperors to be "GODS".
Why do you imagine that muslims put videos of beheadings on the net?
(clue-----they want you to worship the guy who gets a kick out
of it---read the Koran)

 

[Penelope]

If God has the power to create the universe, there is no need to have humans do his bidding. If God wants people to be Christians or Muslims or any other religion, there wouldn't be any other religion except the one God wanted. But it's not God that makes religion, it's people. If God wants something done, God doesn't need people to do it for him. God doesn't need anyone to speak for him...or her...or them(Genesis 3:22)

An omnipotent being doesn't need a war to end evil. It was created it with a thought, and can end it the same way. But God allows it to do it's purpose, which gives a choice. The function of evil is to destroy, so logically it will destroy itself. Just like if someone becomes evil, they destroy themselves.

Some human beings purify themselves, at which they reach closeness to God and become prophets. They become prophets, or heirs to prophets, or Companions of Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family), or saints of Islam.

End evil? Evil is a counter point for good. Good cannot exist without evil and vice versa. We cannot be good without choosing it over evil.

Good and evil are eternal states of being. They have always existed. How do I know? Because God is Eternal. He is good and He has always existed. If good has always existed, so has its opposite.

The plan of redemption was put in place because all of us do evil at some point. If God were to appear to us in our fallen state we would be destroyed for our corruptness cannot exist in His Holy presence.

So God calls and prepares men to teach us His plan. So that we might prepare ourselves through the atonement of His Son to enter into His presence. We can be purified and born again with a New nature.

If God did things your way, we would all be immediately killed. Personally I am.glad the Lord has mercy on us to give us a probationary period to repent and come to Him

God can be without evil, but He does not wish to. Also, in Islam all, human beings are born innocent. A religion (like Christianity) that claims God created people impure has serious problems.

a religion (like islam) which claims that a girl who puts a bomb on her whorish
ass and murders babies gets a direct ticket to JANNAH -----is DEPRAVED.
BTW how is SAINT HAYAT doing?-------get any messages from SAINT WHORE
WAFA IDRIS from jannah?

the concept of original sin------is an intellectual issue-----try not to ponder upon it---
it is beyond you

and yet they got it all from the Hebrews, their Quran is much like the OT with Talmud thrown in. If you want to talk about mercy killings , we need to go back to WWII, those Polish jew deaths were worth it for Israel , weren't they?