Why Was No One Armed & Shooting Back In El Paso WalMart ?

[GLASNOST]

So, if the problem is the police not showing up your remedy is to arm the country? Find out why the police are not responding properly and fix that problem rather than flooding the country with guns so every Tom, Dick, and Harry can spray the community with bullets. Duh!

I don't give a shit if anyone else is armed. That is their choice not mine.

And the Supreme court has ruled that no law enforcement agency is legally obligated to come to the aid of any citizen. So if I can't expect the cops to show up if I or my wife are in danger who should I expect to come You?

Have you ever heard of a thing called "Democracy"? Read my lips: If the law is inadequate then CHANGE IT. And if you do not have Democracy then get your ass off the sofa and introduce it!

Have you ever heard of a thing called a Democratic Republic? We don't change laws by majority vote in this country or don't you understand that?

You are getting your knowledge of Democracy from KKK propaganda.

And you dodged the question

No, I didn't.

If the cops have no legal obligation to come to my aid if I call who should I expect to defend me or my family if the need arises?

Exercise Democratic rights and change the law. There ... I answered your question twice. Maybe you don't understand English?

 

[Blues Man]

So, if the problem is the police not showing up your remedy is to arm the country? Find out why the police are not responding properly and fix that problem rather than flooding the country with guns so every Tom, Dick, and Harry can spray the community with bullets. Duh!

I don't give a shit if anyone else is armed. That is their choice not mine.

And the Supreme court has ruled that no law enforcement agency is legally obligated to come to the aid of any citizen. So if I can't expect the cops to show up if I or my wife are in danger who should I expect to come You?

Have you ever heard of a thing called "Democracy"? Read my lips: If the law is inadequate then CHANGE IT. And if you do not have Democracy then get your ass off the sofa and introduce it!

Have you ever heard of a thing called a Democratic Republic? We don't change laws by majority vote in this country or don't you understand that?

You are getting your knowledge of Democracy from KKK propaganda.

And you dodged the question

No, I didn't.

If the cops have no legal obligation to come to my aid if I call who should I expect to defend me or my family if the need arises?

Exercise Democratic rights and change the law. There ... I answered your question twice. Maybe you don't understand English?

And you think my vote is going to change the ruling of the Supreme Court?

Most people don't even know about that ruling.

So I'll keep my guns

 

[GLASNOST]

And you think my vote is going to change the ruling of the Supreme Court?

Are you telling me that you are the only citizen who would vote to change the law?[/QUOTE]

 

[Blues Man]

And you think my vote is going to change the ruling of the Supreme Court?

Are you telling me that you are the only citizen who would vote to change the law?

[/QUOTE]

I'm sure I'm not.

But then again when was the last time any public vote reversed a Supreme Court ruling?

 

[GLASNOST]

And you think my vote is going to change the ruling of the Supreme Court?

Are you telling me that you are the only citizen who would vote to change the law?

But then again when was the last time any public vote reversed a Supreme Court ruling?

Too long ago. Democracy is not a gift. It is a privileged that must be earned and supported every day of the week particularly where the government is corrupt.

 

[Blues Man]

And you think my vote is going to change the ruling of the Supreme Court?

Are you telling me that you are the only citizen who would vote to change the law?

But then again when was the last time any public vote reversed a Supreme Court ruling?

Too long ago. Democracy is not a gift. It is a privileged that must be earned and supported every day of the week particularly where the government is corrupt.

WHat was the last Supreme court ruling reversed by popular vote?

 

[GLASNOST]

WHat was the last Supreme court ruling reversed by popular vote?

Is it important to know that?

 

[Blues Man]

WHat was the last Supreme court ruling reversed by popular vote?

Is it important to know that?

Yes it is

If it's never been done before what makes you think it can be done today?

As far as I know there are only 3 ways to overrule a Supreme Court decision

1 Congressional statute where Congress changes a statute struck down by SC so it conforms to the courts liking
2 Amending the Constitution
3 The court can reverse its own ruling at a later date

There is no instance where a public vote can reverse a SC decision by referendum

So again I'll ask if I can't count on the police to come to my or my family's aid who should I expect to come ?

 

[GLASNOST]

WHat was the last Supreme court ruling reversed by popular vote?

Is it important to know that?

Yes it is

If it's never been done before what makes you think it can be done today?

As far as I know there are only 3 ways to overrule a Supreme Court decision

1 Congressional statute where Congress changes a statute struck down by SC so it conforms to the courts liking
2 Amending the Constitution
3 The court can reverse its own ruling at a later date

There is no instance where a public vote can reverse a SC decision by referendum

So again I'll ask if I can't count on the police to come to my or my family's aid who should I expect to come ?

I REPEAT: If you do not have Democracy ..... then get off your butt and demand it!
"of the people, by the people, for the people". have you heard of that?

 

[Blues Man]

WHat was the last Supreme court ruling reversed by popular vote?

Is it important to know that?

Yes it is

If it's never been done before what makes you think it can be done today?

As far as I know there are only 3 ways to overrule a Supreme Court decision

1 Congressional statute where Congress changes a statute struck down by SC so it conforms to the courts liking
2 Amending the Constitution
3 The court can reverse its own ruling at a later date

There is no instance where a public vote can reverse a SC decision by referendum

So again I'll ask if I can't count on the police to come to my or my family's aid who should I expect to come ?

I REPEAT: If you do not have Democracy ..... then get off your butt and demand it!
"of the people, by the people, for the people". have you heard of that?

SO you can't answer a simple question

In order to legally require all police departments in all states to answer every single call for aid the ruling of the Supreme Court must be overturned

That cannot be done by popular vote because our form of government does not allow it.

So you are saying if a Supreme Court ruling is to be overturned by popular vote then we must first change our form of government

IOW get rid of our Democratic Republic and impose a purely democratic system where everything is decided by the popular vote

 

[GLASNOST]

WHat was the last Supreme court ruling reversed by popular vote?

Is it important to know that?

Yes it is

If it's never been done before what makes you think it can be done today?

As far as I know there are only 3 ways to overrule a Supreme Court decision

1 Congressional statute where Congress changes a statute struck down by SC so it conforms to the courts liking
2 Amending the Constitution
3 The court can reverse its own ruling at a later date

There is no instance where a public vote can reverse a SC decision by referendum

So again I'll ask if I can't count on the police to come to my or my family's aid who should I expect to come ?

I REPEAT: If you do not have Democracy ..... then get off your butt and demand it!
"of the people, by the people, for the people". have you heard of that?

SO you can't answer a simple question

In order to legally require all police departments in all states to answer every single call for aid the ruling of the Supreme Court must be overturned

That cannot be done by popular vote because our form of government does not allow it.

So you are saying if a Supreme Court ruling is to be overturned by popular vote then we must first change our form of government

IOW get rid of our Democratic Republic and impose a purely democratic system where everything is decided by the popular vote

I'm just trying to help you out but you don't want any advice. You just want to complain but do nothing about it. It's no skin off of my nose but if you keep on bitching I might just keep trying to help you. How about them apples?

 

[Blues Man]

WHat was the last Supreme court ruling reversed by popular vote?

Is it important to know that?

Yes it is

If it's never been done before what makes you think it can be done today?

As far as I know there are only 3 ways to overrule a Supreme Court decision

1 Congressional statute where Congress changes a statute struck down by SC so it conforms to the courts liking
2 Amending the Constitution
3 The court can reverse its own ruling at a later date

There is no instance where a public vote can reverse a SC decision by referendum

So again I'll ask if I can't count on the police to come to my or my family's aid who should I expect to come ?

I REPEAT: If you do not have Democracy ..... then get off your butt and demand it!
"of the people, by the people, for the people". have you heard of that?

SO you can't answer a simple question

In order to legally require all police departments in all states to answer every single call for aid the ruling of the Supreme Court must be overturned

That cannot be done by popular vote because our form of government does not allow it.

So you are saying if a Supreme Court ruling is to be overturned by popular vote then we must first change our form of government

IOW get rid of our Democratic Republic and impose a purely democratic system where everything is decided by the popular vote

I'm just trying to help you out but you don't want any advice. You just want to complain but do nothing about it. It's no skin off of my nose but if you keep on bitching I might just keep trying to help you. How about them apples?

No you're dodging the question.

If a Supreme Court ruling can be changed by popular vote then you should be able to come up with at least one example

I have proven it cannot be done by informing you of the only 3 ways a Supreme Court ruling can be changed but you still think it can be done by popular vote.

So even if the SC could be overruled by popular vote ( and just to be clear it can't be) how long do you think it would take to do so and in that time who can I expect to come to my aid if the need arises?

 

[GLASNOST]

Is it important to know that?

Yes it is

If it's never been done before what makes you think it can be done today?

As far as I know there are only 3 ways to overrule a Supreme Court decision

1 Congressional statute where Congress changes a statute struck down by SC so it conforms to the courts liking
2 Amending the Constitution
3 The court can reverse its own ruling at a later date

There is no instance where a public vote can reverse a SC decision by referendum

So again I'll ask if I can't count on the police to come to my or my family's aid who should I expect to come ?

I REPEAT: If you do not have Democracy ..... then get off your butt and demand it!
"of the people, by the people, for the people". have you heard of that?

SO you can't answer a simple question

In order to legally require all police departments in all states to answer every single call for aid the ruling of the Supreme Court must be overturned

That cannot be done by popular vote because our form of government does not allow it.

So you are saying if a Supreme Court ruling is to be overturned by popular vote then we must first change our form of government

IOW get rid of our Democratic Republic and impose a purely democratic system where everything is decided by the popular vote

I'm just trying to help you out but you don't want any advice. You just want to complain but do nothing about it. It's no skin off of my nose but if you keep on bitching I might just keep trying to help you. How about them apples?

No you're dodging the question.

If a Supreme Court ruling can be changed by popular vote then you should be able to come up with at least one example

I have proven it cannot be done by informing you of the only 3 ways a Supreme Court ruling can be changed but you still think it can be done by popular vote.

So even if the SC could be overruled by popular vote ( and just to be clear it can't be) how long do you think it would take to do so and in that time who can I expect to come to my aid if the need arises?

Either stop bitching or get off of your ass and do something about. I have told you what needs to be done. All you have to do is figure out the best way to achieve it.

 

[Blues Man]

Yes it is

If it's never been done before what makes you think it can be done today?

As far as I know there are only 3 ways to overrule a Supreme Court decision

1 Congressional statute where Congress changes a statute struck down by SC so it conforms to the courts liking
2 Amending the Constitution
3 The court can reverse its own ruling at a later date

There is no instance where a public vote can reverse a SC decision by referendum

So again I'll ask if I can't count on the police to come to my or my family's aid who should I expect to come ?

I REPEAT: If you do not have Democracy ..... then get off your butt and demand it!
"of the people, by the people, for the people". have you heard of that?

SO you can't answer a simple question

In order to legally require all police departments in all states to answer every single call for aid the ruling of the Supreme Court must be overturned

That cannot be done by popular vote because our form of government does not allow it.

So you are saying if a Supreme Court ruling is to be overturned by popular vote then we must first change our form of government

IOW get rid of our Democratic Republic and impose a purely democratic system where everything is decided by the popular vote

I'm just trying to help you out but you don't want any advice. You just want to complain but do nothing about it. It's no skin off of my nose but if you keep on bitching I might just keep trying to help you. How about them apples?

No you're dodging the question.

If a Supreme Court ruling can be changed by popular vote then you should be able to come up with at least one example

I have proven it cannot be done by informing you of the only 3 ways a Supreme Court ruling can be changed but you still think it can be done by popular vote.

So even if the SC could be overruled by popular vote ( and just to be clear it can't be) how long do you think it would take to do so and in that time who can I expect to come to my aid if the need arises?

Either stop bitching or get off of your ass and do something about. I have told you what needs to be done. All you have to do is figure out the best way to achieve it.

And you still won't answer the question

Why don't you tell me how to change the way our entire system of government works so as to allow Supreme Court rulings to be overturned by referendum vote? I can think of no other way that installing a different government that is not beholden to the Constitution

Obviously the simplest way would be to get rid of the Supreme Court

 

[GLASNOST]

I REPEAT: If you do not have Democracy ..... then get off your butt and demand it!
"of the people, by the people, for the people". have you heard of that?

SO you can't answer a simple question

In order to legally require all police departments in all states to answer every single call for aid the ruling of the Supreme Court must be overturned

That cannot be done by popular vote because our form of government does not allow it.

So you are saying if a Supreme Court ruling is to be overturned by popular vote then we must first change our form of government

IOW get rid of our Democratic Republic and impose a purely democratic system where everything is decided by the popular vote

I'm just trying to help you out but you don't want any advice. You just want to complain but do nothing about it. It's no skin off of my nose but if you keep on bitching I might just keep trying to help you. How about them apples?

No you're dodging the question.

If a Supreme Court ruling can be changed by popular vote then you should be able to come up with at least one example

I have proven it cannot be done by informing you of the only 3 ways a Supreme Court ruling can be changed but you still think it can be done by popular vote.

So even if the SC could be overruled by popular vote ( and just to be clear it can't be) how long do you think it would take to do so and in that time who can I expect to come to my aid if the need arises?

Either stop bitching or get off of your ass and do something about. I have told you what needs to be done. All you have to do is figure out the best way to achieve it.

And you still won't answer the question

Why don't you tell me how to change the way our entire system of government works so as to allow Supreme Court rulings to be overturned by referendum vote? I can think of no other way that installing a different government that is not beholden to the Constitution

Obviously the simplest way would be to get rid of the Supreme Court

Nothing is "obvious". I get the impression that you are very lazy but not everyone can take the lead and I guess I can't criticize you if you don't understand English. You don't need to take the lead but you need to get off your ass and seek information from others. If you really care about your country and your countrymen then you will stop whining and get to work. There must be lots of Americans who are already at work on the problem .... and they need your support. But again, if you don't give a shit about the U.S. then you're not going to do a damn thing.

 

[hunarcy]

wrong
hunter accidentally shoots friend - Google Search
proves HUMANS will make mistakes/errors/etc --civilians are NO less human
and cops are TRAINED--civilians are not
cops are in shooting situations a lot MORE than civilians ----
here you go--a CCW in a WALMART--tries to get the bad guy and is killed!!!!
and there wasn't even a mass shooting
Cost of Bravery: Vegas Bystander Died Trying to Stop Rampage
here another CCW also killed by a mass shooter
Tacoma Mall shooting - Wikipedia

You can tell them a thousand times and there will still be idiots who are not listening. They prefer to believe Hollywood.

I prefer to ignore cowardly children like you.

What a very odd thing to say. I'm standing right in front of you but you're the one who's running away scared. Coward.

Running away? Nah, just acknowledging the fact that you offer nothing worth discussing. You take outliers and unusual events and try to conflate them with actual situations as if they are comparable. If I want to have that sort of discussion, I'll find a 5th grader.

Yes, you are running away. "harmonica" is right. What he wrote is true, logical, and correct. You are a coward in the face of the facts he gave you. Not only are you a coward but you are also dishonest but I guess they both go hand in hand. If you are keen on debating with adults then you should grow up and learn from the people who know more than you.

Oh wow, a lying child accuses me of running away. *yawn* What he wrote was not "true, logical and correct", it was trying to take individual instances that were weird and unique and implying they are common and expected. If you can't understand the difference, you're for more stupid than even I suspected. Now, go take your hurt feelings and sit in the corner because you are wasting the time of everyone who reads your posts.

 

[hunarcy]

So, if the problem is the police not showing up your remedy is to arm the country? Find out why the police are not responding properly and fix that problem rather than flooding the country with guns so every Tom, Dick, and Harry can spray the community with bullets. Duh!

I don't give a shit if anyone else is armed. That is their choice not mine.

And the Supreme court has ruled that no law enforcement agency is legally obligated to come to the aid of any citizen. So if I can't expect the cops to show up if I or my wife are in danger who should I expect to come You?

Have you ever heard of a thing called "Democracy"? Read my lips: If the law is inadequate then CHANGE IT. And if you do not have Democracy then get your ass off the sofa and introduce it!

Have you ever heard of a thing called a Democratic Republic? We don't change laws by majority vote in this country or don't you understand that?

And you dodged the question

If the cops have no legal obligation to come to my aid if I call who should I expect to defend me or my family if the need arises?

Well, to be fair, we can change laws by majority vote. What we don't do is restrict civil rights based on majority vote, which I believe is what you meant.

 

[Blues Man]

SO you can't answer a simple question

In order to legally require all police departments in all states to answer every single call for aid the ruling of the Supreme Court must be overturned

That cannot be done by popular vote because our form of government does not allow it.

So you are saying if a Supreme Court ruling is to be overturned by popular vote then we must first change our form of government

IOW get rid of our Democratic Republic and impose a purely democratic system where everything is decided by the popular vote

I'm just trying to help you out but you don't want any advice. You just want to complain but do nothing about it. It's no skin off of my nose but if you keep on bitching I might just keep trying to help you. How about them apples?

No you're dodging the question.

If a Supreme Court ruling can be changed by popular vote then you should be able to come up with at least one example

I have proven it cannot be done by informing you of the only 3 ways a Supreme Court ruling can be changed but you still think it can be done by popular vote.

So even if the SC could be overruled by popular vote ( and just to be clear it can't be) how long do you think it would take to do so and in that time who can I expect to come to my aid if the need arises?

Either stop bitching or get off of your ass and do something about. I have told you what needs to be done. All you have to do is figure out the best way to achieve it.

And you still won't answer the question

Why don't you tell me how to change the way our entire system of government works so as to allow Supreme Court rulings to be overturned by referendum vote? I can think of no other way that installing a different government that is not beholden to the Constitution

Obviously the simplest way would be to get rid of the Supreme Court

Nothing is "obvious". I get the impression that you are very lazy but not everyone can take the lead and I guess I can't criticize you if you don't understand English. You don't need to take the lead but you need to get off your ass and seek information from others. If you really care about your country and your countrymen then you will stop whining and get to work. There must be lots of Americans who are already at work on the problem .... and they need your support. But again, if you don't give a shit about the U.S. then you're not going to do a damn thing.

So you can't give me an answer to a simple question and you call me lazy.

So you would rather insult me and dodge and weave from one of the simplest questions that can be asked

So tell me what law do you change so that a referendum vote an be used to overrule a Supreme Court decision ?

And FYI "Get off your lazy ass and do something" isn't an answer to that question.

The fact is there are 3 and only 3 ways to overrule or change a Supreme Court decision and not one of them is to put that decision to a popular vote.

The average citizen cannot force the Supreme Court to overturn a decision I don't care how many of them want to it cannot be done without a fundamental change the Constitution or our system of government.

But if you think you know how then please feel free to tell us how it can be done

And if you refuse to a answer yet again It will just prove to me that you have no answer and you want to blame me for your ignorance

 

[Blues Man]

So, if the problem is the police not showing up your remedy is to arm the country? Find out why the police are not responding properly and fix that problem rather than flooding the country with guns so every Tom, Dick, and Harry can spray the community with bullets. Duh!

I don't give a shit if anyone else is armed. That is their choice not mine.

And the Supreme court has ruled that no law enforcement agency is legally obligated to come to the aid of any citizen. So if I can't expect the cops to show up if I or my wife are in danger who should I expect to come You?

Have you ever heard of a thing called "Democracy"? Read my lips: If the law is inadequate then CHANGE IT. And if you do not have Democracy then get your ass off the sofa and introduce it!

Have you ever heard of a thing called a Democratic Republic? We don't change laws by majority vote in this country or don't you understand that?

And you dodged the question

If the cops have no legal obligation to come to my aid if I call who should I expect to defend me or my family if the need arises?

Well, to be fair, we can change laws by majority vote. What we don't do is restrict civil rights based on majority vote, which I believe is what you meant.

We cannot change a Supreme Court ruling by popular vote.

The Supreme Court ruled that no law enforcement agency has a legal obligation to respond to a call for aid from a citizen.

What law do you change to make Supreme Court decisions subject to a referendum vote?

Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone

WASHINGTON, June 27 - The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation.

 

[GLASNOST]

Yes, you are running away. "harmonica" is right. What he wrote is true, logical, and correct. You are a coward in the face of the facts he gave you. Not only are you a coward but you are also dishonest but I guess they both go hand in hand. If you are keen on debating with adults then you should grow up and learn from the people who know more than you.

Oh wow, a lying child accuses me of running away. *yawn* What he wrote was not "true, logical and correct", it was trying to take individual instances that were weird and unique and implying they are common and expected. If you can't understand the difference, you're for more stupid than even I suspected. Now, go take your hurt feelings and sit in the corner because you are wasting the time of everyone who reads your posts.

I'm old enough to be your grandfather, Pussy Boy, so cut the crap and get to bed or I'll give you a spanking you'll never forget.