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I gotta spread the love, before I can ding, OR zing ya again..
(I'll leave ya sweat it out on which one) :spank3:
(I'll leave ya sweat it out on which one) :spank3:
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Shattered said:I gotta spread the love, before I can ding, OR zing ya again..
(I'll leave ya sweat it out on which one) :spank3:
Said1 said:*Gasp* You wouldn't!!!!
nakedemperor said:Jesus wasn't white, either. He was an arab.
Shattered said:I couldn't. I like you. You're amusing as all hell.
Said1 said:Merci buckets, I'm only here to please.:hail:
Shattered said:"Ours"? So... "Santa" is for white people only.. Jesus is for white people only..? I suppose you believe they should be forced to play with white Barbie dolls as well..? They're not *changing* a holiday - they're merely adapting something to fit into thier lifestyle. Nice stereotyping, tho..
5. Can people who are not of African descent participate in Kwanzaa activities?
Kwanzaa is clearly an African holiday created for African peoples. But other people can and do celebrate it, just like other people participate in Cinco de Mayo besides Mexicans; Chinese New Year besides Chinese; Native American pow wows besides Native Americans.
The question is, under what circumstances? There are both communal and public celebrations. One can properly hold a communal celebration dedicated essentially to community persons. But in a public context, say public school or college, we can properly have public celebrations which include others. How this is done depends on particular circumstances. But in any case, particular people should always be in control of and conduct their own celebrations. Audience attendance is one thing; conducting a ritual is another.
The principles of Kwanzaa and the message of Kwanzaa has a universal message for all people of good will. It is rooted in African culture, and we speak as Africans must speak, not just to ourselves, but to the world. This continues our tradition of speaking our own special cultural truth and making our own unique contribution to the forward flow of human history.
Gem said:From the official Kwanzaa Website's FAQ:
So in a way, BOTH sides are right...Kwanzaa is "an AFRICAN holiday for AFRICAN peoples." (one might have an interesting conversation regarding that statement considering that the inventor of Kwanzaa and the vast majority of its participants are African AMERICANS, born and raised in the United States...but perhaps for another time....)
Yet, Kwanzaa's Official Website states that all people can participate.
no1tovote4 said:How nice of them. I would question the validity of the whole "African" angle. Yes, African-American but not African at all. I would bet that almost every African in Africa today has yet to even hear about this holiday, and if they did it would be unlikely for them to celebrate it.
no1tovote4 said:How nice of them. I would question the validity of the whole "African" angle. Yes, African-American but not African at all. I would bet that almost every African in Africa today has yet to even hear about this holiday, and if they did it would be unlikely for them to celebrate it.
nakedemperor said:Kwanzaa is not a religion, its a cultural celebration. Moreover, I'm not sure why you qualified it as "fake"; on account of the "lack of thousands who even celebtrate this so-called holiday", possibly? There are lots and lots of people celebrate this holiday. Hundreds of thousands, maybe millions. Kwanzaa is not in opposition to Christmas, it can be celebrated by Christians as well.
Isaac Brock said:Frankly I don't see the big deal. If people celebrate cultural events, religious traditions or whatever and it brings people together then why not celebrate it? Is the mere notion of other people's festivals so disagreeable?
Bullypulpit said:If it ain't white, it ain't right. At least that seems to be the basis for opposition to Kwanzaa.
rtwngAvngr said:The main opposition is that it was an invented holiday for the cynical purpose of separating the black population from Christianity.
Bullypulpit said:What if they want to be separated from Christianity? With christians like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and Leroy Jenkins, I'd want to get as far from Christianity as I could. Come to think of it, I have.
Bullypulpit said:What if they want to be separated from Christianity? With christians like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and Leroy Jenkins, I'd want to get as far from Christianity as I could. Come to think of it, I have.
rtwngAvngr said:Are you saying that blacks are not strong enough to leave a religion if they so desire? That they must be led like fucking sheep by a communist, anti white lib. Your mind is a cesspool. and close that fetid stenchhole.