CDZ Why is democracy a good form of government?

[gipper]

The fact is that those who oppose American democratic republicanism want to inflict a great horror on its inhabitants.

Only statists like you will unknowingly do that.

Not at all, and you won't get the chance to hurt America.

My political views would help Americans, unlike yours.

Radical leftism is the most detrimental force facing America and the world today. It leads to death and destruction because history proves big government always does. Too bad you are too blind to understand this.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The fact is that those who oppose American democratic republicanism want to inflict a great horror on its inhabitants.

Only statists like you will unknowingly do that.

Not at all, and you won't get the chance to hurt America.

My political views would help Americans, unlike yours.

Radical leftism is the most detrimental force facing America and the world today. It leads to death and destruction because history proves big government always does. Too bad you are too blind to understand this.

No, it doesn't. Big Government save the world from the nazis, fascists, imperialists, and folks who think like you.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Only statists like you will unknowingly do that.

Not at all, and you won't get the chance to hurt America.

No he won't because you liberals are already hurting America.

You are far right, so the mainstream is liberal to you. Tough.

Yes mainstream is liberal.

Thank you finally being honest. So I have corrected it in reality for you:

mainstream is liberal to the kooky far right

You have never corrected me. What you call mainstream is definitely liberal.

 

[gipper]

The fact is that those who oppose American democratic republicanism want to inflict a great horror on its inhabitants.

Only statists like you will unknowingly do that.

Not at all, and you won't get the chance to hurt America.

My political views would help Americans, unlike yours.

Radical leftism is the most detrimental force facing America and the world today. It leads to death and destruction because history proves big government always does. Too bad you are too blind to understand this.

No, it doesn't. Big Government save the world from the nazis, fascists, imperialists, and folks who think like you.

Your post clearly reflects a complete lack of knowledge and understanding.

 

[dcraelin]

Ronald Reagan said " Democracy is worth dying for because it's the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man."

 

[|electric|foxy|]

The best form of government is direct democracy, but not this democracy parody which the US have now.

 

[JoeMoma]

A republic is a subset of democracy. I don't understand what the insistence is of some people to refuse to recognize the fact.

Because it's not a pure democracy. Just ask Al Gore.

 

[Toro]

Because democracy legitimizes government. It's most responsive to the governed, and creates the responsibility for the governors.

 

[Donald Polish]

I don't know was it mentioned previously?
"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried." ~Winston Churchill
It is an incredibly inefficient form of government.

 

[Roadrunner]

A friend of mine was talking about how he thinks democracy is a bad way to run government because it's just a 'popularity contest, like electing 5th grade class president except with a world super power.' He says that whoever governs us should be chosen based on how qualified they are, i.e. meritocracy.
What do participants think? Do any of you agree?
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We are a republic, not a democracy.

No debate to be had here, the premise is wrong right off the bat.

 

[xdangerousxdavex]

We are a republic, not a democracy.

to be correct
we are a representative democratic republic, not a direct democracy

 

[dcraelin]

We are a republic, not a democracy.

to be correct
we are a representative democratic republic, not a direct democracy

nor are we a pure Republic

 

[M14 Shooter]

A friend of mine was talking about how he thinks democracy is a bad way to run government because it's just a 'popularity contest, like electing 5th grade class president except with a world super power.' He says that whoever governs us should be chosen based on how qualified they are, i.e. meritocracy.
What do participants think? Do any of you agree

True democracy is neither an effective nor sane to run a country.
That's why we don't have a true democracy.

 

[xdangerousxdavex]

nor are we a pure Republic

I agree, our Republic system has borrowings from plutocratic and oligarchic systems

 

[dcraelin]

nor are we a pure Republic

I agree, our Republic system has borrowings from plutocratic and oligarchic systems

Which will be our downfall

What we need is more public in the Republic.....a national initiative option such as the Swiss have to bypass the crooks in DC

 

[xdangerousxdavex]

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

A friend of mine was talking about how he thinks democracy is a bad way to run government because it's just a 'popularity contest, like electing 5th grade class president except with a world super power.' He says that whoever governs us should be chosen based on how qualified they are, i.e. meritocracy.
What do participants think? Do any of you agree?

I agree with James Madison and John Adams and Hamilton and others -- democracy sux. Meritocracy? How in the world would THAT work?

We have the best of a bad choice. We have a representative form of democracy as opposed to a popular form

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

nor are we a pure Republic

I agree, our Republic system has borrowings from plutocratic and oligarchic systems

borrowings? what does that mean?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

We are a republic, not a democracy.

to be correct
we are a representative democratic republic, not a direct democracy

nor are we a pure Republic

nor were we ever supposed to be one

 

[there4eyeM]

Of course it is not in the interests of manipulators that the manipulated be educated enough to recognize manipulation. Democracy, to function, requires an educated populace.
An educated electorate would never have tolerated the deterioration of American democracy to its present level.
We wonder, therefore, what happens in our society that such a percentage of adults can be so ill instructed. The lamentable level of 'reasoning', 'evaluating', 'debating' demonstrates that a distrust of democracy is justified.
In a society, such as America's, where economic power is considered the highest measure, democratic institutions devolve to carefully controlled oligarchic ones. Thus, even a republican democracy loses its representative sense in the broadest term and becomes representative only of an élite.
They have given us an oligarchy, if they can keep it.