Why I Don't Like Illegal Aliens

[Neser Boha]

The only reason why I'm replying to your response, is because I feel very strongly about this issue. So for now, I'll get over the fact that you're a proven spineless liar (in other threads).

Oh what leftist garbage! Property values sink plain and simple because crime, violence and drugs increase! Of course you sit their tossing stones, but I would bet dollars to doughnuts you live in a smug all white community!

Yeah, they do sink because of the above mentioned reasons, yet not all communities with large percentages of immigrants are violent, dangerous places to live.

When I lived in the US, I spent a lot of time around immigrants - legal or illegal. After all, I was an immigrant myself. Right now, I'm an immigrant yet again - this time in Sweden.

Take a look at East LA and there you get your proof!



Why don't YOU try again. It has been proven that were there in a high concentration of illegal immigrates the gangs (such as MS 13, Eme, La Neustro Familia and the Latin Kings follow). With the gangs comes violence!

Those gangs should definitely be done away with asap. I'll never condone any criminal activity. However, how many gangs made of American citizens have you heard of? I'm sure there are many more of those.

I agree it depends on the person and not necessarily their immigration status. But many come here thinking America owes them something because they came here.

There is something called 'culture shock' that plays a huge part in what you're describing as people feeling their new host-country 'owes them something'. I went through it when I moved from CZ to US. You can look it up online, it is a real psychological term and it is very hard - at least for some - to get over.

From wikipedia, a little definition:

Culture shock refers to the anxiety and feelings (of surprise, disorientation, uncertainty, confusion, etc.) felt when people have to operate within a different and unknown cultural or social environment, such as a foreign country. It grows out of the difficulties in assimilating the new culture, causing difficulty in knowing what is appropriate and what is not. This is often combined with a dislike for or even disgust (moral or aesthetical) with certain aspects of the new or different culture.

The above quote is not enough to explain the phenomenon of culture shock, the rest of the wikipedia article does well enough. You will really understand then some immigrants' negative attitudes towards their host-country. It has nothing to do with true hate or there being anything wrong with them or the country.

It probably better than the blind hypocritical liberalism that you support. You can only put your head in the sand so long before you suffocate!

Oh, fuck off with that stupid ignorant bullshit, will ya?

Nobody should drive without drivers license, of course... The government should work hard at preventing illegal immigration...

Guess blind leftist, they do! Even though I believe 49 states have laws on the books prohibiting driving without insurance.

Oh really? Seriously? It is illegal to drive without insurance or a driver's licence? Ooooh! You totally stumped me! I DIDN'T KNOW!

They get guns illegally. Any American citizen can get hold of illegal weapons if he or she finds the will to do so.

Wow a leftist arguing for the 2nd amendment! LOL, you will stick to the leftist hypocritical oath at all costs huh?

Where and when have I said that I am opposed to the 2nd amendment? Just because I seem overtly liberal to you, my dear idiot, doesn't mean that I'm some sort of partisan hack like some on this board.

I am very simply and very clearly advocating AGAINST GROUP HATRED OF IMMIGRANTS WHETHER LEGAL OR ILLEGAL, period.

Yet you will defend it at all costs! So what does that make you? I doubt words like smart and intelligent come to mind!

I think it's quite logical to be against illegal immigration while advocating against hatred of illegal immigrants. And I also think that everyone with an IQ above 90 with at least basic reasoning skills, would agree with me. You really are not very smart, are you?

 

[LaLinda75]

Illegals ONLY pay taxes via merchandise that they buy. But being that the great majority are paid under the table, they do NOT pay the amount of taxes that the rest of us pay. And that folks is the reality of it. And contrary to the pc crowd, they DO use up alot of these taxes via the freebies which this government allows them. Maybe we should start fighting our own government and the abuse upon the american people.

 

[SW2SILVER]

I STILL LIVE WITH ILLEGAL ALIENS. In real time. Gypsies? Gimme a break. When was that? Last time you toured Europe? Poor, poor baby , how you must suffer. I love this, you ARROGANT liberal pricks support ARROGANT illegal aliens without batting an eye, but, if poor little moi contradicts you, I am the bad guy. You, dear, need to get in touch with reality. Stop listening to NPR and all that. You are naive on this issue, and it shows. I have been assaulted twice by your little humble group of "People". They even walked into my home, and threatened to kill me. Ever have THAT happen to you? I have been threatened a few times , but never like that. Lets see... A Anglo was killed outside of my Casa by a bunch of these "people" because he defended a Hispanic woman these macho hombres were harassing. I guess, that is what diversity is about, ehh? Across the alley, a hispanic guy was knifed in a gang attack by another group of hispanics...I have lived in this area for over 15 years, and this crap NEVER happened before THESE creeps showed up. You defend that? Is that what Your idealism amounts to? I didn't always feel this way, I came to hating these jerks because they are antagonist jerks. Just like you.

 

[SW2SILVER]

I would like to add this to this board. For what it is worth. Back in the late 90's, I attended a couple of ACORN meetings. I felt, as poor American, and also being disenfranchised , that ACORN may help. I realized in short order, that they were only about adding to their membership, that is, FUNDING. Secondly, they were primarily concerned with minority related issues. First meeting I attended, they made it clear. They forbade the use of the word "illegal alien", or even bringing up the issue of illegal aliens, period. They wouldn't hear of the fact that some Americans are actually being hurt by illegals, no no, that just doesn't work for them. Instead, they offer up ideas like, add more police patrols. Add more streetlights. Add more stop signs. Instead of focusing on illegal aliens and the crime they bring, instead of offering immigration enforcement, they play petty games and pander to illegal aliens for funding. I am still as disillusioned and twice as disenfranchised, and illegal aliens still hurt me. Years later, things are worse. And, I get called a "racist" too boot, by pseudo intellectuals that think I deserve to be treated like shit because I am a poor white working stiff. That double standard crap, pity the poor Mexican illegal. Screw the poor white guy. Is that it? Some of you need to shut up and move into a Barrio, and that will be a little more illuminating than a college course. But, yer all talk, and no walk. Empty rhetoric and empty ethics. Assholes.

 

[Care4all]

I had no idea that illegal aliens were even a political issue back in the 90's?

this is something I only became politically aware of in the new millennium....

And I am surprised ACORN cared about illegal aliens at all, unless and perhaps if this was in one of the boarder states....maybe...?

I thought their concern was with primarily the black minority in the USA and illegal aliens or latinos in general and black america, at least in the north east, are not known to like eachother?

 

[WillowTree]

I would like to add this to this board. For what it is worth. Back in the late 90's, I attended a couple of ACORN meetings. I felt, as poor American, and also being disenfranchised , that ACORN may help. I realized in short order, that they were only about adding to their membership, that is, FUNDING. Secondly, they were primarily concerned with minority related issues. First meeting I attended, they made it clear. They forbade the use of the word "illegal alien", or even bringing up the issue of illegal aliens, period. They wouldn't hear of the fact that some Americans are actually being hurt by illegals, no no, that just doesn't work for them. Instead, they offer up ideas like, add more police patrols. Add more streetlights. Add more stop signs. Instead of focusing on illegal aliens and the crime they bring, instead of offering immigration enforcement, they play petty games and pander to illegal aliens for funding. I am still as disillusioned and twice as disenfranchised, and illegal aliens still hurt me. Years later, things are worse. And, I get called a "racist" too boot, by pseudo intellectuals that think I deserve to be treated like shit because I am a poor white working stiff. That double standard crap, pity the poor Mexican illegal. Screw the poor white guy. Is that it? Some of you need to shut up and move into a Barrio, and that will be a little more illuminating than a college course. But, yer all talk, and no walk. Empty rhetoric and empty ethics. Assholes.

I wouldn't let it bother me one whit, about being called racist.. it's that thing they do when they have no argument. I'm still trying to get them to explain to me why they think Americans should work their asses off to pay the way for illegals,, get not coherent answers from any of them.. none!

 

[Sunni Man]

Everytime we let in immigrants from war-torn regions of the 3rd world it truly ends up biting us in the ass.

Ecuador - We let in thousands upon thousands during their bloody civil war, what has that led to, probably the most dangerous gang in America - MS 13. All their original members were so called refugees.

Cambodia - We let in a ton of them during the Khmer Rouge days and what did that lead to? The forming of the little rascals. Now even the traditionally peaceful Asian community has it gang problems.

Colombia - See the drug wars.

Mexico - Eme/Mexican Mafia.

Cuba - Escape Castro and come to FL to start what the 60-80s called the Cuba crime wave!

Haiti - Haitians came over here as so called refugees and instead they competed head to head with the Cubans during the crime wave!

Somalia - Talk to any MN and they will tell you about the Somalian gang problem and now a recruitment into terrorist organizations


I see a trend here!

The worst immigrants we ever let in were the Jews after WWII

They have done their best to destroy our country, government, and our freedoms.

In the 90"s we let in the Russian Jews.

They have been the worst of the worst.

Basically, a huge human crime wave that has swept across American cities.

 

[BolshevikHunter]

I had no idea that illegal aliens were even a political issue back in the 90's?

this is something I only became politically aware of in the new millennium....

And I am surprised ACORN cared about illegal aliens at all, unless and perhaps if this was in one of the boarder states....maybe...?

I thought their concern was with primarily the black minority in the USA and illegal aliens or latinos in general and black america, at least in the north east, are not known to like eachother?

It was a very big issue, Yet nothing was done about this Government enabled foreign invasion of The United States of America. Alot of people thought Bush would do something, but he turned out to be a Liberal Republican lap dog for Mexico. Now very soon the madman Obama is gonna grant amnesty to all of them so they can get their International Socialist hands on all the extra Tax money. Then The legalized illegalls will form Unions and all the cheap goods will go up. It's pure madness. ~BH

 

[BolshevikHunter]

Well, it's obvious what email is making the rounds now...

Hello my Leftist friend. It's always funny when you recognize someone from another Forum. Just wanted to say hi. ~BH

 

[SW2SILVER]

ACORN is one thing. But, my representative in city Council, (Hiawatha Davis. Yes, that was his real name) didn't return ANY of my calls, no matter how desperate. It seems, illegal aliens were just as verboten with the Denver city council way back when this issue got rolling. It seems that my local representatives weren't PROACTIVE on this topic. Not anymore than ACORN was. No, instead, they wait and then clean up the mess after the dust settles. I don't care who, what or what the issue is, that isn't how how solve civic issues. When representatives ignore American citizens, something is very wrong, no matter how you slice it.

 

[mystic]

Why I don't like illegal aliens? Let's make a list. I have a few I would like to start with:
1) Illegal aliens = Property values sink every year, crimes rates grow. Now, is that a coincidence? Graffiti. Shootings.
2) Loud stereos. Either in cars or in a residence. To the level that it practically disrupts gravity. And, these people pretend to think nobody would notice?
3) Belligerent, antagonizing behavior. Call it a culture. I call it being an jerk.
4) Cultural imperialism. Sorry, I don't know what else to call this phenomena. "Hispanics" drive out anyone unlike them with sheer antagonism or blind ignorant stupid behaviour. These people leave a vacuum, and our wonderful illegals replace them with their kin and kindred. That used to be illegal, when Anglos did that . Now, nobody even notices.
5) Overcrowding. Yep, a two bedroom apartment becomes a metaphor for a sardine can. This is no exaggeration. And, when each and every mother loving son of them has at least one car, well, it gets fun trying to park. Lawns, alleys, in front of fire hydrants. Nuts.
6) Automobiles. Operating them without licences or insurance, and all that hit and run irresponsible illegal alien fun! Oh, not to mention adding alcohol to the mix, that makes it a little more interesting.
7) Guns. Try all the last 6 reasons and then add firearms to the mix. Now, how they get firearms, I don't know, I have bullet or two in my poor old house. I don't care about the second Amendment any more, just because of that.
Feel free to add to the list. I have plenty more to add to it, but that is enough for a reasonable person to think about.

You just described the trappings of poverty and it's sister ignorance. Now, if you had made a thread titled, "Why I don't like poor people," I would have no issue with you being honest about the way you feel. Some of the things on your list are really hilarious. Illegal immigrants = loud car stereos?

 

[indianaboy]

The only way they can get a ssn is either through legal ways (marriage) or by stealing somebody's identity, which is really hard and not to mention expensive.

As a PD, I can tell you that that's utter hogwash. SS cards go for $25 on the streets of Chicago.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The illegals are not going anywhere; in their minds, they are home.

Let's figure out how to reform our immigration laws and move on.

 

[Amanda]

The only way they can get a ssn is either through legal ways (marriage) or by stealing somebody's identity, which is really hard and not to mention expensive.

As a PD, I can tell you that that's utter hogwash. SS cards go for $25 on the streets of Chicago.

I agree. Identity theft is neither difficult or expensive. The last place I worked we had someone fired, then arrested for stealing data that made identity theft VERY easy. I don't know where anyone would get the idea it's hard to do or costs a lot. All it takes is a dishonest person in the right position and you have nearly limitless opportunities.

 

[SW2SILVER]

Why I don't like illegal aliens? Let's make a list. I have a few I would like to start with:
1) Illegal aliens = Property values sink every year, crimes rates grow. Now, is that a coincidence? Graffiti. Shootings.
2) Loud stereos. Either in cars or in a residence. To the level that it practically disrupts gravity. And, these people pretend to think nobody would notice?
3) Belligerent, antagonizing behavior. Call it a culture. I call it being an jerk.
4) Cultural imperialism. Sorry, I don't know what else to call this phenomena. "Hispanics" drive out anyone unlike them with sheer antagonism or blind ignorant stupid behaviour. These people leave a vacuum, and our wonderful illegals replace them with their kin and kindred. That used to be illegal, when Anglos did that . Now, nobody even notices.
5) Overcrowding. Yep, a two bedroom apartment becomes a metaphor for a sardine can. This is no exaggeration. And, when each and every mother loving son of them has at least one car, well, it gets fun trying to park. Lawns, alleys, in front of fire hydrants. Nuts.
6) Automobiles. Operating them without licences or insurance, and all that hit and run irresponsible illegal alien fun! Oh, not to mention adding alcohol to the mix, that makes it a little more interesting.
7) Guns. Try all the last 6 reasons and then add firearms to the mix. Now, how they get firearms, I don't know, I have bullet or two in my poor old house. I don't care about the second Amendment any more, just because of that.
Feel free to add to the list. I have plenty more to add to it, but that is enough for a reasonable person to think about.

You just described the trappings of poverty and it's sister ignorance. Now, if you had made a thread titled, "Why I don't like poor people," I would have no issue with you being honest about the way you feel. Some of the things on your list are really hilarious. Illegal immigrants = loud car stereos?

Hello! Just thought I's stop by and knock your sorry ass off that high horse you are riding on. I am POOR. I know what the motherfucking issue is about. Wrap this around that chikenshit petty mind of yours : WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH POOR. We don't need to have Mexican illegalsbarge in here and make matters WORSE for the rest of us. Now, huckleberry, don't condescend to me again. OK? You need a little slice of humble pie. Please. I live with these folks, I work with them and some of my family is married to them. Is that intimate knowledge enough, or do I need to bring the golden fucking fleece, too? I can’t do that, sorry.

 

[Zona]

If America really wanted to get rid of the Illegal immigrants here, they would. They wont because of the money America makes on them.

If America really wanted to, they would go after the business owners who hire them. Again, its all about money.

Seriously.

 

[Zona]

Pic looks old but this one is more recent..

 

[WillowTree]

If America really wanted to get rid of the Illegal immigrants here, they would. They wont because of the money America makes on them.

If Americabusiness owners who hire them. Again, its all about money. really wanted to, they would go after the

Seriously.

How? And, would that be fair? Since the business owners are prevented from verifying documentation? The ACLU works for the illegals.. That's a powerful lobby.

 

[Agnapostate]

That doesn't even make sense. Spaniards are white and non-white Mexicans were classified as Indians during that period.

 

[rhodescholar]

Illegals don't vote, doh!

Say what???? LOL! LOL! LOL! Boy do you have it all wrong. Are YOU asked for ID when you vote? Does anybody check the voter registration form where it clearly states that if you are NOT a USA citizen you can't vote??? It's all a joke folks. Wake up America!

I got one even better for you - illegal CAN legally vote - when it comes to their local school board if they have children in their local public school...isn't that great - they do not pay taxes for, but can send their kids to the local school - and still get a say in how the school is run!

When the mexicos get here, they must not think Americans are stupid - they certainly KNOW it.