Why Gun Control is Bullshit

Britain......after they banned guns the violent crime rate went way up.....to the point it is twice our violent crime rate........and that is with the stats they actually report....

Uh, no, it didn't.

The british had only 653 murders last year. of those, only 38 happened with guns. Their homicide rate is 1.03 out of 100,000.

We had 14,827 murders, of which 8,896 were committed with guns. Our homicide rate is 4.7 per 100,000.


Sorry silly person...before Britain banned guns they had a far lower gun murder rate than we did...after they banned guns...their everyday violence rate sky rocketed....notice the source silly person.....bloomberg.....not exactly right wing, or pro gun.....

And the study they use is Australian.....

fewer deaths more violence

U.K. Gun Curbs Mean More Violence Yet Fewer Deaths Than in U.S. - Bloomberg Business

According to the Sydney-based Institute for Economics and Peace, the U.K. had 933 violent crimes per 100,000 people in 2012, down from 1,255 in 2003. In the U.S., the figure for 2010 was 399 violent crimes per 100,000 people.
 
Britain......after they banned guns the violent crime rate went way up.....to the point it is twice our violent crime rate........and that is with the stats they actually report....

Uh, no, it didn't.

The british had only 653 murders last year. of those, only 38 happened with guns. Their homicide rate is 1.03 out of 100,000.

We had 14,827 murders, of which 8,896 were committed with guns. Our homicide rate is 4.7 per 100,000.


And Americans used guns 1.6 million times, on average each year to stop or prevent violent criminal attack and save lives.....

so 1.6 million vs. 8.896 gun murders, mainly by criminal gangs in democrat controlled inner city killing fields, in small, multi block areas..........control gangs and criminals and we would have a lower gun murder rate than Europe...in fact...in most areas of the U.S. we already do...and we still have our guns.....
 
Our gun violence is confined, mostly, to inner city gang killing fields....

Blog Who gets shot in Chicago

Sooooo...Chicago had an estimated population of 2,718,782....in 2013.....and from this study....

About 70 percent of the killings occurred in what Papachristos found was a social network of only about 1,600 people — out of a population of about 80,000 in those neighborhoods.

And the irrational, anti gunners think that guns are the problem.......who are the real nuts....?

The article from the Sun Tims....

New study shows likelihood of being shot in Chicago Chicago
 
If you ban guns, the bloodshed will go way up. way way up. and those who want to ban guns will be pretty scarce if such a law were to pass


Sure it will dude. Prove it. Can you do that?


Britain......after they banned guns the violent crime rate went way up.....to the point it is twice our violent crime rate........and that is with the stats they actually report....

I recall that something similar-though not as dramatic-happened in Australia.
 
Sorry silly person...before Britain banned guns they had a far lower gun murder rate than we did...after they banned guns...their everyday violence rate sky rocketed....notice the source silly person.....bloomberg.....not exactly right wing, or pro gun.....

Okay, if you want to tell yourself that. So how is it that there wasn't an outcry from the British people when this happened?
 
Our gun violence is confined, mostly, to inner city gang killing fields....

Blog Who gets shot in Chicago

Sooooo...Chicago had an estimated population of 2,718,782....in 2013.....and from this study....

About 70 percent of the killings occurred in what Papachristos found was a social network of only about 1,600 people — out of a population of about 80,000 in those neighborhoods.

And the irrational, anti gunners think that guns are the problem.......who are the real nuts....?

The article from the Sun Tims....

New study shows likelihood of being shot in Chicago Chicago

Are you still trying to pass off this study as meaning anything? This was a study of ONE neighborhood.
 
Sorry silly person...before Britain banned guns they had a far lower gun murder rate than we did...after they banned guns...their everyday violence rate sky rocketed....notice the source silly person.....bloomberg.....not exactly right wing, or pro gun.....

Okay, if you want to tell yourself that. So how is it that there wasn't an outcry from the British people when this happened?


Because they have a different culture...one that defers to central authority...same as the Japanese...they were told to turn in their guns...and they did.....and now they simply deal with more violent crime on a daily basis....mainly because daily crime, much like shootings in our inner cities, are something you just deal with because for most people it is remote, and not emotional the way a very public mass shooting is....
 
Our gun violence is confined, mostly, to inner city gang killing fields....

Blog Who gets shot in Chicago

Sooooo...Chicago had an estimated population of 2,718,782....in 2013.....and from this study....

About 70 percent of the killings occurred in what Papachristos found was a social network of only about 1,600 people — out of a population of about 80,000 in those neighborhoods.

And the irrational, anti gunners think that guns are the problem.......who are the real nuts....?

The article from the Sun Tims....

New study shows likelihood of being shot in Chicago Chicago

Are you still trying to pass off this study as meaning anything? This was a study of ONE neighborhood.


And you think it isn't true....that these major cities don't have small, multi block areas where most of the drug crime happens?
 
And you think it isn't true....that these major cities don't have small, multi block areas where most of the drug crime happens?

That isn't what the study claimed. It didn't claim that all the crime happened in one neighborhood. It only studied one neighborhood and found that a large percentage of crime victims ran in the same social circles..
 
And you think it isn't true....that these major cities don't have small, multi block areas where most of the drug crime happens?

That isn't what the study claimed. It didn't claim that all the crime happened in one neighborhood. It only studied one neighborhood and found that a large percentage of crime victims ran in the same social circles..


I didn't claim it either....I said... small, multi block areas....that is not saying just one.....but it doesn't change the fact that most of the shootings are in isolated areas in these cities and they aren't rampant throughout these cities....
 
I didn't claim it either....I said... small, multi block areas....that is not saying just one.....but it doesn't change the fact that most of the shootings are in isolated areas in these cities and they aren't rampant throughout these cities....

I think you are desperately trying to pin our horrid murder rate on anything OTHER than the fact we have too many guns.

Point is, other countries have gang problems and minority problems. They don't have our murder rates because they don't have the guns.
 
..the police and prosecutors have vast powers that American police do not have...including the ability to search anyone at any time...the ability to search homes at will, the ability to hold suspects without access to lawyers for days.....the ability to abuse suspects and have judges ignore the treatment...



Oh, they have their own Patriot Act? You do understand that American police can do exactly the same things.
They just need to label you a "terrorist" first. And that's not a problem.


The police in NYC tried "stop + frisk", They took thousands of illegal guns from the criminals.
The liberals put a quick end to "stop + frisk", as soon as they saw that it was doing something useful!!
gun control schemes were a way liberals could pretend they were doing something about crime while not pissing off their bloc of voters that included criminals and those who make excuses for them
 
gun control schemes were a way liberals could pretend they were doing something about crime while not pissing off their bloc of voters that included criminals and those who make excuses for them

Right. so why does the NRA keep fighting for the gun show loophole and private seller rules that are the main conduits for guns to get to criminals?

Because if they tiny dicks aren't scared, they won't want guns.
 
I didn't claim it either....I said... small, multi block areas....that is not saying just one.....but it doesn't change the fact that most of the shootings are in isolated areas in these cities and they aren't rampant throughout these cities....

I think you are desperately trying to pin our horrid murder rate on anything OTHER than the fact we have too many guns.

Point is, other countries have gang problems and minority problems. They don't have our murder rates because they don't have the guns.


Their criminals can get guns as easily as ours can...as we saw in france with the 3 terrorists and the shooting a week later in Marseilles and then the shooting in belgium, denmark and sweden......they just don't do it even though they have access to guns.....
 
Joe....forcing background checks at gun shows for private citizens selling guns....pointless, and useless....

ATF study Criminals use stolen guns Local News Times Free Press


Some of the weapons reviewed were purchased at gun shows in what are called "straw buys" -- where a legal buyer purchases guns off the books in private sales and then resells the weapons for profit to gang members.

But most of the weapons traced in the review were stolen from legal gun owners, Hill said.

So....how will requiring universal background checks do anything to stop this............at gun shows or at your own home?
 
Their criminals can get guns as easily as ours can...as we saw in france with the 3 terrorists and the shooting a week later in Marseilles and then the shooting in belgium, denmark and sweden......they just don't do it even though they have access to guns.....

Except, no, they needed a major terrorist network to supply them with weapons, as opposed to American crooks, who can just steal them from the home of the nearest 2nd Amendment Purist who isn't going to get no gun safe like the Founding Fathers wouldn't have.
 
Joe....forcing background checks at gun shows for private citizens selling guns....pointless, and useless....

ATF study Criminals use stolen guns Local News Times Free Press


So....how will requiring universal background checks do anything to stop this............at gun shows or at your own home?

That's just a good argument to take ALL guns away from private citizens. Thanks. Nice to have you on board.

You might want to point out the language in the Constitution that would enable congress to enact such legislation.
 

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