Why does the right grab onto complete lies like death panels and Birther issues in th

[Truthmatters]

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[Jarhead]

You mean like "Bush lied people died"? "9/11 was an inside job?" "Trickle down economics doesn't work?" "Bush/Cheney=Halliburton/Big Oil?"

None of these are lies silly

lol...

you are quite pathetic.

No more of my time with you.

 

[Truthmatters]

I gave facts and they gave insults.

Pretty typical exchange with cons

The result of a poll is not a fact. A fact is a thing like "water has a density of 1g/cc at STP."

Polls relate to opinions, not facts.

It is a statement of researched fact into who holds that opinion.

 

[rdean]

You mean like "Bush lied people died"? "9/11 was an inside job?" "Trickle down economics doesn't work?" "Bush/Cheney=Halliburton/Big Oil?"

You got three out of four.

Remember "slam dunk"? Turns out it was a LIE. There were no WMDs in Iraq. - lie

9/11 was an inside job? Dumb. Too big. Someone would have squealed. Never happened.

Trickle down doesn't work. For obvious reasons. The middle class doesn't live off the scraps of the rich. That's how idiot Republicans think. Jobs are made because of "supply and demand", the foundation of capitalism. If there is a demand, someone will figure out a way to create supply. Many use "bank loans". They didn't start out rich and created jobs anyway. So simple.

Finally, the tens of billions in subsidies to oil companies is a direct result of the Bush/Cheney energy policy. The same policy the Sierra Club took the Bush Administration all the way to the Supreme Court for. A divided court let that administration off scott free and we are not paying the bill. Do some research on exactly how many billions Haliburton ended up with. Then look up whose Haliburton stock went up thousands of percentage points. The answer might suprise you.

Oh hell, here:

cheney's halliburton stock - Google Search

 

[Truthmatters]

You mean like "Bush lied people died"? "9/11 was an inside job?" "Trickle down economics doesn't work?" "Bush/Cheney=Halliburton/Big Oil?"

None of these are lies silly

lol...

you are quite pathetic.

No more of my time with you.

Did Bush tell the truth about yellow cake?

 

[007]

So I've been here less than 24 hours and it's already apparent to me that you are not only a liar, but you can't read.

I NEVER said that some on the right haven't done so, just as SOME on the left have and still do lie about those on the right. The difference is I'm honest enough to include that all important SOME in my statement while you prefer to pretend like it is EVERYONE on the right.

I dismiss you as the child you are.

The portion of your party who has been touting these issues is not a small fraction.

Why do you lie about that?

Look , I know you read my introductory statement, so it's YOUR fault if you're not aware that I don't have much patience with idiots, but I'll try ONE last time. Conservatives, nor the right, are parties. They are political positions. One doesn't have to subscribe to every part and parcel of a theory pushed by anyone claiming to be like them in order to be on "their side." I suspect the reason you assume this to be true is because you yourself swallow everything you are told by a liberal agenda and just assume that everyone else does likewise. Most of us aren't that simple minded, but have no fear, one day you to will grow out of puberty and be able to think for yourself.

You'll be way ahead of the game if you stick to making that your "last time" pard. Truthdoesntmatter is the boards biggest freakin' whack job. She doesn't wear tinfoil hats, her whole fucking head is made of tin foil.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Yes because the Left would never push Conspiracy Theories against those they hate. Nope,never happens. The answer to this OP's question is pretty simple. Why does the Left grab onto lies and Conspiracy Theories against their political rivals? Answer that question and the OP will have answered their own question.

 

[martybegan]

Because on the majority of substantive issues, they lose the argument. Their anti-government ideology is pretty popular, but their policies are not. Despite a substantial portion of the country self-identifying as conservative, vast majorities of Americans support universal healthcare, progressive tax code that raises the rates on the wealthy, no reductions in Social Security or Medicare, the US military out of Afghanistan and Middle Eastern occupation generally, government regulated environmental protections, a woman's right to choose, etc. etc. Many of those policies aren't enacted or actively supported by the Democratic party either which is hardly a movement of the left, but liberal policy positions on major contentious issues are generally much more popular than conservative policy positions on those same issues.

So because they lose on policy, they (quite effectively) change the nature and frame of the debate and distract with non-issues or like death panels, birtherism, taking guns away etc. where they can garner more widespread support by focusing on straw men or fabrications.

Exactly!!!

On straight policy, they lose 9 out of 10 times. They must use rhetoric to win an agrument to get uneducated people to vote for it.

It has to be simple ("No new taxes", Obama is a socialist, "Death panels") and easy to understand. Republicans have barely any intellectual understanding of issues, they just believe whatever people they trust.

These people look simple and talk simply. This is where they get liberals as elitist because we have the skills of rational thought. They say things like "Hands off my healthcare" to say no government intervention in healthcare. Yet stats and facts prove that deregulating health care makes it worse for consumers and the countries with the best healthcare systems have government involvement. But thats not simple to understand, "Hands off my healthcare" is easier.

So in short, they are going after uneducated people and trying to convince them because if they were educated, they wouldn't vote for them.

Why do you think they support things like school vouchers to private christian schools and defunding education? Less educated voter means they will more than likely win.

Actually democrats have it far easier as it is quite simple to offer people stuff that others are paying for. That has been the democratic mantra since the late 60's.

basically you are going with the "anyone who votes republican is basically being fooled" as you simply cant grasp someone beleiving in something you dont beleive in. The lack of this ability is what plagues our political debate today. One simply can't be "wrong", they have to be evil/stupid/ INSERT WORD HERE-"ic".

 

[Truthmatters]

Here we are again and I have proven the lies of the right with documentation and what do they do?

run away

 

[TheBrain]

None of these are lies silly

lol...

you are quite pathetic.

No more of my time with you.

Did Bush tell the truth about yellow cake?

Do you grasp that what the CIA does is give the President informed opinions? They don't state facts. They do research and give opinions. Do you think Obama trusts the CIA when they give him an opinion? I guarantee he does.

 

[007]

Here we are again and I have proven the lies of the right with documentation and what do they do?

run away

Number one, you haven't proven shit. As far as the COLB goes, so we finally see one, but it's a little early in the game to do a victory dance. It's going to take some investigation into whether or not it's authentic. If it is, then do your dance. But until it's verified as authentic, you'd best shut your trap.

 

[martybegan]

Here we are again and I have proven the lies of the right with documentation and what do they do?

run away

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now write this on a blackboard 100 times. School is out.

 

[Truthmatters]

Bush lied to the American people about AQ ties to sadam, mushroom clouds, WMDs ( we know where they are they are east north and south of tikrit) and they lied about the CIA agent whos husband exposed their lies.

 

[Truthmatters]

Here we are again and I have proven the lies of the right with documentation and what do they do?

run away

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now write this on a blackboard 100 times. School is out.

A poll is documentation of public opinion.

If they are worthless why does corporate America use them to make decisions?

 

[Truthmatters]

Here we are again and I have proven the lies of the right with documentation and what do they do?

run away

Number one, you haven't proven shit. As far as the COLB goes, so we finally see one, but it's a little early in the game to do a victory dance. It's going to take some investigation into whether or not it's authentic. If it is, then do your dance. But until it's verified as authentic, you'd best shut your trap.

I have proven that birtherism and deathpanelism are not fringe right ideas.


You of course will deny this because you love to deny documention of anything that shows your political view is deadly flawed.

 

[QUENTIN]

Did Bush tell the truth about yellow cake?

No! He didn't mention once how delicious it is...

 

[Truthmatters]

I am surprized he didnt use that as a reason to invade Iraq.

"ya see , these Iraaakis need some delicious yella cake to eat"

 

[martybegan]

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run away

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now write this on a blackboard 100 times. School is out.

A poll is documentation of public opinion.

If they are worthless why does corporate America use them to make decisions?

beacuse its the best they got, and sometimes they guess wrong. There are countless examples of products that polled well, and then sold like absolute crap once they hit the market.

You cant use a poll to prove beyond a doubt that "A majority of Group "X" thinks "Y", unless you question ALL of group X. (or theoretically enough to get (1/2*X)+1 of a given answer, with X being the group population).

 

[Truthmatters]

Polling is a science.

You just refuse anything that doesnt line up with your failed ideas

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Polling is a science.

You just refuse anything that doesnt line up with your failed ideas

Quantitative Methods or Statistical Mathematics are sciences, polling is not.