Why do so many here want the Obama boat to sink???

[HUGGY]

First of all, Obama is nothing more than a criminal Chicagoland political hack. He's never held a working job in his entire life. All he has ever done is make his living by sucking on the political sow's teats. He has no idea what it's like to have a 9 to 5 working job. He is a big old liar and a fraud. He is spending this country into bankruptcy with projects that don't and won't work. How big of a list do you want? If you want to live in a third world socialist country, keep allowing Obama to have his way and let the democrap sheep follow him into his promised land.

Turn off your radio, Einstein.

Take off your blindfold, dumbass.

This is a rather bizzar strip tease.



You kids should really do this in private!

 

[AllieBaba]

On the other hand, during every single war we've had something like the Patriot Act evidenced. It's how we legally rounded up Japanese, and censored mail and tapped phone lines. The Patriot Act has a clause in it which requires a review to determine whether it needs to continue every so many years. Nothing Obama proposes has anything like that.

 

[twogreen2c]

Obama inherited a huge mess.

America is basically in the toilet.

I am willing to step back and see what he can do.

His legacy will either be that of a hero or a zero.

For Americas sake, I hope it's "Hero"

He inherited a mess.

He is turnong into a huge one.

I am not willing to let that marxist do anything more. He's already done enough.

Really? What are you "willing" to do to stop him?

2green....imagine if that package passed in its original state

What package in what state? There are 5 proposals still all in flux ...3 in the house and 2 in the senate. When are you morons going to start telling the truth? Who do you think you are fooling with the constant flow of diahrea from your keyboards? Why is it that you won't allow intelligent debate on this subject. I am getting to the point that anything you assholes are against must be good because someone is paying a fortune to make sure you stupid fucks are all worked up.

Hey I have a question for you...Can you name ONE thing you neo cons have done for the average american? Name one. Just one. If you cannot I will assume you support policies that are not for the benefit of most americans and you can go directly to fuck yourself and consider yourself lucky that more americans do not feel the vengence I do for what you have done to this nation.

It doesn't matter how many healthcare reform proposals are out there. The fact is there are aspects in one or all them that Americans have deep concern with. And as far as your question on what have the "neo cons" done for the average American, I'm not here to argue Reps versus Dems. I am registered as an Independent and have problems with both parties. But lets not deflect from the subject at hand. Americans are speaking out on a number of issues, the biggest one at the moment being healthcare reform.

 

[HUGGY]

He inherited a mess.

He is turnong into a huge one.

I am not willing to let that marxist do anything more. He's already done enough.

Really? What are you "willing" to do to stop him?

2green....imagine if that package passed in its original state

What package in what state? There are 5 proposals still all in flux ...3 in the house and 2 in the senate. When are you morons going to start telling the truth? Who do you think you are fooling with the constant flow of diahrea from your keyboards? Why is it that you won't allow intelligent debate on this subject. I am getting to the point that anything you assholes are against must be good because someone is paying a fortune to make sure you stupid fucks are all worked up.

Hey I have a question for you...Can you name ONE thing you neo cons have done for the average american? Name one. Just one. If you cannot I will assume you support policies that are not for the benefit of most americans and you can go directly to fuck yourself and consider yourself lucky that more americans do not feel the vengence I do for what you have done to this nation.

It doesn't matter how many healthcare reform proposals are out there. The fact is there are aspects in one or all them that Americans have deep concern with. And as far as your question on what have the "neo cons" done for the average American, I'm not here to argue Reps versus Dems. I am registered as an Independent and have problems with both parties. But lets not deflect from the subject at hand. Americans are speaking out on a number of issues, the biggest one at the moment being healthcare reform.

I'm sure the hundreds of millions the HMOs and the Pharms have spent to keep thier strangle hold on american health care has NOTHING to do will all the "speaking out".

Just what "aspects" should the average american be concerned with?

 

[oreo]

When the President's goals are counter to what I believe the Constitution states, I want his goals and policies to fail.

Did you feel the same way when Bush and Cheney were trashing the Constitution and enacting the so called Patriot Act ?

You're rhetoric is getting a little old. First of all you cannot name one single law abiding American Citizen whose rights have been violated by the Patriot Act. An act enforced to only protect this country from another terrorist attack--& guess what--it has worked time & time again. Terrorist plans have been broken up--including an Oklahoma style bombing that was being planned by "American citizens" here in the United States that was headed to Toronto, Canada. It has saved innocent lives.

Versus--the Obama report your neighbor because they disagree with my take-over of health care--LOL

 

[oreo]

I am not a republican or a democrat.

Here is what I don't understand.

The past administration drove this country into the ground.

I am not a big Obama fan, but shouldn't we at least give the guy a chance?

Why are soo many people here hoping and praying that he fails?

We are all in the same sinking boat.

Shouldn't we all be cheering for him to turn the country around and get us out of this mess ?

First of all this country does not "center" around one man & his plans to destroy this country with his socialist plans. There is no doubt in my mind that is what he is trying to do.

Second of All--we want our children & grandchildren to have the same opportunities in their lives as we have had. FREEDOM OF CHOICE--without a massive federal government--that interfers in freedom of choice--& without the expense of a massive federal government that would throw our children & grandchildren into a 70% tax bracket.

If that means we have to swallow the bitter pill--then that's what it means. If that means we have to oppose your hero-Barack Obama-then that's what it means

 

[HUGGY]

When the President's goals are counter to what I believe the Constitution states, I want his goals and policies to fail.

Did you feel the same way when Bush and Cheney were trashing the Constitution and enacting the so called Patriot Act ?

You're rhetoric is getting a little old. First of all you cannot name one single law abiding American Citizen whose rights have been violated by the Patriot Act. An act enforced to only protect this country from another terrorist attack--& guess what--it has worked time & time again. Terrorist plans have been broken up--including an Oklahoma style bombing that was being planned by "American citizens" here in the United States that was headed to Toronto, Canada. It has saved innocent lives.

Versus--the Obama report your neighbor because they disagree with my take-over of health care--LOL

It has saved innocent lives.


Who's lives were saved? Be specific.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

When the President's goals are counter to what I believe the Constitution states, I want his goals and policies to fail.

Did you feel the same way when Bush and Cheney were trashing the Constitution and enacting the so called Patriot Act ?

I know you were not asking me but Yes I did. And i was ridiculed out of the republican friendly zone for it.

Now people are ridiculing me out of the democrat friendly zone because i dont like hr3200. Stupid party line lemmings.

 

[twogreen2c]

Really? What are you "willing" to do to stop him?

2green....imagine if that package passed in its original state

What package in what state? There are 5 proposals still all in flux ...3 in the house and 2 in the senate. When are you morons going to start telling the truth? Who do you think you are fooling with the constant flow of diahrea from your keyboards? Why is it that you won't allow intelligent debate on this subject. I am getting to the point that anything you assholes are against must be good because someone is paying a fortune to make sure you stupid fucks are all worked up.

Hey I have a question for you...Can you name ONE thing you neo cons have done for the average american? Name one. Just one. If you cannot I will assume you support policies that are not for the benefit of most americans and you can go directly to fuck yourself and consider yourself lucky that more americans do not feel the vengence I do for what you have done to this nation.

It doesn't matter how many healthcare reform proposals are out there. The fact is there are aspects in one or all them that Americans have deep concern with. And as far as your question on what have the "neo cons" done for the average American, I'm not here to argue Reps versus Dems. I am registered as an Independent and have problems with both parties. But lets not deflect from the subject at hand. Americans are speaking out on a number of issues, the biggest one at the moment being healthcare reform.

I'm sure the hundreds of millions the HMOs and the Pharms have spent to keep thier strangle hold on american health care has NOTHING to do will all the "speaking out".

Just what "aspects" should the average american be concerned with?

I am not going to pull exerpts from a 1000+ bill to make my point. If you can't see the simple reasons to be concerned with having government getting into the healthcare business, then I can't help you. But speaking of the Pharms, maybe you want to listen to the Air America segment on Obama's back door deal with the Pharms. I haven't seen a thread on this yet, but probably will start one under Healthcare to see if someone can discredit this investigative reporter. Give a listen. The reporter was from the LA Times, certainly not a right-wing paper.

Breitbart.tv » ‘Charming Liar’: Progressives Turn on Obama as Air America Exposes ‘Fascist’ Drug Deal

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

wow. As if i didn't have enough reasons to be against hr3200 now i'm reading your link and gettin ANOTHER wake up call about it.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

because the Obama boat is heading for an iceberg... that's why.

And as for this stupid statement:

Did you feel the same way when Bush and Cheney were trashing the Constitution and enacting the so called Patriot Act ?

There was nothing unconstitutional about the Patriot Act. Can you point out in the U.S. constitution where tthe prsident is authorized to:

Appoint Czars?
Auto Bailouts?
Advocate SC justices who embrace empathy (contrary to the oath they take)?
Seizure of ownership of private business (GM)?

 

[chanel]

I would like to see the economy turn around If the stimulus works I will give him credit. But with that said. Obama wants a "radical transformaation" of this country through the redistributuon of wealth. He is committed to "social justice" (code word Marxism) and unfortunately only a minority of this country read the writing on the wall. The people voted for "change" and he intends to give it to them.

I would be far more comfortable if at least one branch of our govt was Republican. But we have a nearly "totalitarian govt" right now with the far left leading the charge. They could repeal the law of gravity right now and there aint a damn thing we could do about it. Thank goodness for the Blue Dogs.

 

[rightwinger]

How dare Obama seek to realocate our current distribution of wealth????

One way to ‘see’ the distribution of wealth in the U.S. is to imagine a group of 100 people who have a $100 between them. Evenly distributed each would have one dollar of wealth. Alas, that is far from the actual distribution. According to the most recent study, Currents and Undercurrents, by the Survey of Consumer Finance (Federal Reserve, Department of Treasury, 2006) wealth is distributed accordingly:

50 individuals at the bottom have a nickel. ($0.05 times 50 = $2.50)

The next 40 each have $0.70 of wealth (40 times $0.70 - $28.00).

The next 9 each have $4.00 of wealth (nine times $4.00 = $36.00)

The last richest individual has $33.40 (one time $33.40).

 

[chanel]

That's what you want and that's what the president wants. I appreciate your honesty. Too bad our leaders won't admit it. Why has socialism become the new "n word"? Could it be because it is OUR money they intend to steal?

 

[skookerasbil]

Many claim that Obama is leading us into socialism.

But where were these same people when Bush was leading us into totalitarianism ???

s0n.....back to school time for you..............

Obama is leading America down the path of Fascism. The central government taking over the means of production, banks, news outlets, healthcare..........all that was done in the 1930's in Germany.
Damn straight people are freaking out and militia's are on the rise.

 

[mal]

I am not a republican or a democrat.

Here is what I don't understand.

The past administration drove this country into the ground.

I am not a big Obama fan, but shouldn't we at least give the guy a chance?

Why are soo many people here hoping and praying that he fails?

We are all in the same sinking boat.

Shouldn't we all be cheering for him to turn the country around and get us out of this mess ?

Knowing his Socialism will Fail, has us Wanting his Goal of getting us More Socialistic to Fail...

His Failure is NOT the Failure of the Country... That's where you are Wrong.

Anymore than (43) was.

We are going through a LONG Overdue Economic Correction and BOTH Parties have Responsibility in it, along with a LOT of Americans...

I Know FAR too Many who Mortgaged their Homes for Toys while Working in Industries that were FAR from Solid.

Enough People in this Country wanted EVERYTHING now, and it's "Coming Home to Roost", as it were.

The Current Unemployment Rate is NOT Barry's doing, but it's Longevity will be if he is Successful...

Not unlike FDR's Agitating of our Economic Woes during his Tenure.

Maybe we will have a World War to Thin the Population and Create Factory Jobs, like FDR had.



peace...

 

[rightwinger]

Obama is leading America down the path of Fascism. The central government taking over the means of production, banks, news outlets, healthcare..........all that was done in the 1930's in Germany.

Are you freak'n kidding me!
For gods sake, the auto companies were bankrupt, NOBODY but the government was stepping up to merge and bail them out. It was either step in and back them up or put them out of business.
That and providing a government alternative constitutes fascism??? Adolph would be proud of you guys. Your use of the big lie is second only to Goebbels

 

[ba1614]

How dare Obama seek to realocate our current distribution of wealth????

One way to ‘see’ the distribution of wealth in the U.S. is to imagine a group of 100 people who have a $100 between them. Evenly distributed each would have one dollar of wealth. Alas, that is far from the actual distribution. According to the most recent study, Currents and Undercurrents, by the Survey of Consumer Finance (Federal Reserve, Department of Treasury, 2006) wealth is distributed accordingly:

50 individuals at the bottom have a nickel. ($0.05 times 50 = $2.50)

The next 40 each have $0.70 of wealth (40 times $0.70 - $28.00).

The next 9 each have $4.00 of wealth (nine times $4.00 = $36.00)

The last richest individual has $33.40 (one time $33.40).

So, if you do give everyone the 1$ they are "entitled" to, how long would it take for the smarter, harder working person to again end up with more while the not so ambitious does fuck all waiting for their handout?

Do you propose to re-distribute the wealth every few years?

 

[rightwinger]

How dare Obama seek to realocate our current distribution of wealth????

One way to ‘see’ the distribution of wealth in the U.S. is to imagine a group of 100 people who have a $100 between them. Evenly distributed each would have one dollar of wealth. Alas, that is far from the actual distribution. According to the most recent study, Currents and Undercurrents, by the Survey of Consumer Finance (Federal Reserve, Department of Treasury, 2006) wealth is distributed accordingly:

50 individuals at the bottom have a nickel. ($0.05 times 50 = $2.50)

The next 40 each have $0.70 of wealth (40 times $0.70 - $28.00).

The next 9 each have $4.00 of wealth (nine times $4.00 = $36.00)

The last richest individual has $33.40 (one time $33.40).

So, if you do give everyone the 1$ they are "entitled" to, how long would it take for the smarter, harder working person to again end up with more while the not so ambitious does fuck all waiting for their handout?

Do you propose to re-distribute the wealth every few years?

Interesting point. What you are saying is that 90% of Americans are lazy fuckups waiting for a handout. Where do you fall on the scale?

 

[HUGGY]

How dare Obama seek to realocate our current distribution of wealth????

One way to ‘see’ the distribution of wealth in the U.S. is to imagine a group of 100 people who have a $100 between them. Evenly distributed each would have one dollar of wealth. Alas, that is far from the actual distribution. According to the most recent study, Currents and Undercurrents, by the Survey of Consumer Finance (Federal Reserve, Department of Treasury, 2006) wealth is distributed accordingly:

50 individuals at the bottom have a nickel. ($0.05 times 50 = $2.50)

The next 40 each have $0.70 of wealth (40 times $0.70 - $28.00).

The next 9 each have $4.00 of wealth (nine times $4.00 = $36.00)

The last richest individual has $33.40 (one time $33.40).

So, if you do give everyone the 1$ they are "entitled" to, how long would it take for the smarter, harder working person to again end up with more while the not so ambitious does fuck all waiting for their handout?

Do you propose to re-distribute the wealth every few years?

You use the term "redistribute the wealth" only when it aplies to those that have less. What do you call Bush's tax cuts for the super rich and breaking tax laws by using off shore drop boxes.

Working "hard" doesn't make you a millionair sparky.

Gaming the system by buying government influence through lobbiests ... Gaming the system by creating panics in deregulated comodities markets .... casino financial markets where they dream up ever so clever schemes to steal with a 40 to one ration of investing(gambling) other peoples money ...

What do you call the biggest power and money grab in history? How dose the redistribution of wealth that has gone on since Reagan that has crushed the middle class worked for ya? Never mind just give Standfard Oil another multi billion handout while you are paying $3 a gal at the pump (you ignorant asshole)*.

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