CDZ Why do people like prison so much?

[Porter Rockwell]

Some form of rehabilitation would seem in order, so those when released would have some education, skill, or coping ability. as apposed to being released with felony conviction making it even less likely to get a job or reconnect with society.

I work trying to get people who are down and out and get a lot of feedback.

Once a person goes to prison, they come out with a criminal record and, if anything, the system makes them worse. For every drug addict in a rehabilitation program, there are more than TEN drug addicts in prison. So, people do a stint in prison and get locked out of society on account of "background checks" that are absolutely useless in a real society. Instead of people doing things the old fashioned way (like calling former employers and personal references) we're content to rely on a corrupt government for a person's record.

We have generations of dependents. In prison a person gets three hots and a cot, plenty of people to socialize with, and they don't have to think.

A good form of rehabilitation would be to give people long sentences and then let them EARN an early release. If prisoners were forced to get a GED and job training skills in order to get an early release, they would become better citizens. They would be more likely to assimilate into society if they got drug rehabilitation and life skills courses while there. Prison should not be a place to learn how to become a better criminal while pissing your life away.

If a person gets put into prison, they should be there to be punished and to be rehabilitated. Then the should be returned back to society with their Rights restored and a the chance to return as equals. Without that, prison will always be a revolving door.

The only flaw in your post is that many don't want to rehabed.

I guess you missed the part about long sentences. If they want to piss away a decade when they could be free in two and half years on a ten year stint - well, to each his own.

Additionally, recidivists would have to serve maximum sentences.

No I missed nothing. many people in prison do not want to be reformed. They have told me they like what they do. Also, many get sent back to prison over and over and the filthy criminal loving pols let them out again and again.

The pols are elected by we, the people... and WE could draft our own legislation to stop the B.S,.

 

[miketx]

Some form of rehabilitation would seem in order, so those when released would have some education, skill, or coping ability. as apposed to being released with felony conviction making it even less likely to get a job or reconnect with society.

I work trying to get people who are down and out and get a lot of feedback.

Once a person goes to prison, they come out with a criminal record and, if anything, the system makes them worse. For every drug addict in a rehabilitation program, there are more than TEN drug addicts in prison. So, people do a stint in prison and get locked out of society on account of "background checks" that are absolutely useless in a real society. Instead of people doing things the old fashioned way (like calling former employers and personal references) we're content to rely on a corrupt government for a person's record.

We have generations of dependents. In prison a person gets three hots and a cot, plenty of people to socialize with, and they don't have to think.

A good form of rehabilitation would be to give people long sentences and then let them EARN an early release. If prisoners were forced to get a GED and job training skills in order to get an early release, they would become better citizens. They would be more likely to assimilate into society if they got drug rehabilitation and life skills courses while there. Prison should not be a place to learn how to become a better criminal while pissing your life away.

If a person gets put into prison, they should be there to be punished and to be rehabilitated. Then the should be returned back to society with their Rights restored and a the chance to return as equals. Without that, prison will always be a revolving door.

The only flaw in your post is that many don't want to rehabed.

I guess you missed the part about long sentences. If they want to piss away a decade when they could be free in two and half years on a ten year stint - well, to each his own.

Additionally, recidivists would have to serve maximum sentences.

No I missed nothing. many people in prison do not want to be reformed. They have told me they like what they do. Also, many get sent back to prison over and over and the filthy criminal loving pols let them out again and again.

The pols are elected by we, the people... and WE could draft our own legislation to stop the B.S,.

Never get going before some pos pol ground it to a halt. Thed's sic the media on you and probably the FBI. YOu keep believing all that though.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

I work trying to get people who are down and out and get a lot of feedback.

Once a person goes to prison, they come out with a criminal record and, if anything, the system makes them worse. For every drug addict in a rehabilitation program, there are more than TEN drug addicts in prison. So, people do a stint in prison and get locked out of society on account of "background checks" that are absolutely useless in a real society. Instead of people doing things the old fashioned way (like calling former employers and personal references) we're content to rely on a corrupt government for a person's record.

We have generations of dependents. In prison a person gets three hots and a cot, plenty of people to socialize with, and they don't have to think.

A good form of rehabilitation would be to give people long sentences and then let them EARN an early release. If prisoners were forced to get a GED and job training skills in order to get an early release, they would become better citizens. They would be more likely to assimilate into society if they got drug rehabilitation and life skills courses while there. Prison should not be a place to learn how to become a better criminal while pissing your life away.

If a person gets put into prison, they should be there to be punished and to be rehabilitated. Then the should be returned back to society with their Rights restored and a the chance to return as equals. Without that, prison will always be a revolving door.

The only flaw in your post is that many don't want to rehabed.

I guess you missed the part about long sentences. If they want to piss away a decade when they could be free in two and half years on a ten year stint - well, to each his own.

Additionally, recidivists would have to serve maximum sentences.

No I missed nothing. many people in prison do not want to be reformed. They have told me they like what they do. Also, many get sent back to prison over and over and the filthy criminal loving pols let them out again and again.

The pols are elected by we, the people... and WE could draft our own legislation to stop the B.S,.

Never get going before some pos pol ground it to a halt. Thed's sic the media on you and probably the FBI. YOu keep believing all that though.

miketx,

A former slave had something to say about people like you. I'd like to repeat his words:

“If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” —Frederick Douglass: Selected Speeches and Writings

For nearly four decades (and I was a VERY young kid back then) I heard the same kind of cop out from those who played into the hands of puppet masters that ended up screwing this country over really well. They thought they had the answers, instead they played into the hands of the powers that be and today they are victims of Hegelian Dialectics, having lost control of their country and the ONLY solutions they see are a bigger and more intrusive government.

The fact is, the patriot movement WAS winning. Sure, they faced opposition, but real victory has a price. The patriots were not defeated by politicians nor the feds; it wasn't the liberals nor the left; it wasn't socialists or Democrats. No sir. It was the fanatics who took up the wall worship thing.Their EVERY solution has called for more government, more laws, fewer Liberties, and more tyranny. Wallists are what the communists call useful idiots.

Having heard those cries as you made for nearly four decades and having survived using the platform put before you, I can tell of you successes and defeats; wins and losses. But, I can tell you that the defeats did not come from the sources you claim. America was destroyed from within by people that sound exactly like you. So, if you want to regain your Liberties; if you want America to approach any semblance of what she used to be, then man up or stand down.