Who is the most over-rated president of all-time?

[Peach]

you need to include reagan...

the most overrated president of all time.

Yes, but even calling Bush II a President is overrating him; in same ways Kennedy could be #3. Most UNDERRATED: Ford, Nixon.

 

[notatallanti]

Too bad! I've been encouraging people to vote "Other".

 

[Friends]

Thomas Woodrow Wilson.

Wilson pushed started the Federal income tax and the Federal Reserve Act which are anchors on his presidency.

That sounds pretty good. I'm glad he did it.

 

[Friends]

George Washington. He lost more battles than he won. He left nothing in the way of political writings worth reading.

The only good things he did was to refrain from doing what he could have done. He could have established a royal dynasty with himself as the absolute monarch. That was the way history had gone up to that time. It was what Napoleon Bonaparte tried to do.

Nevertheless, he had Mount Vernon to retire to. In addition, he had no sons to inherit the throne from him. This reduced his motives.

 

[Friends]

Of recent presidents Ronald Reagan is the most over rated. He was more successful than Jimmy Carter, but Carter was a better president.

There was more job creation per year under Carter than Reagan.

There was less unemployment.

There was of course less deficit spending.

The inflation that ended Carter's presidency, and which declined during the presidency of Ronald Reagan was due to fluctuations in the price of petroleum over which neither president had much control.

Because the Soviet Union was nearing collapse the military buildup under Reagan was unnecessary. Provoking an arms race with the Soviets when Soviet leaders could feel their power disintegrating was catastrophically dangerous.

 

[Friends]

The following websites document the assertions I made in my previous post.

job creation:
Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record - Real Time Economics - WSJ

unemployment:
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/data/UNRATE.txt

oil prices:
Historical Oil Prices: InflationData.com

 

[regent]

Thomas Woodrow Wilson.

Wilson pushed started the Federal income tax and the Federal Reserve Act which are anchors on his presidency.

That sounds pretty good. I'm glad he did it.

The first US income tax was under Lincoln and had a ten year life span. A new one was passed later and declared unconstitutional. Today's income tax is an amendment to the Constitution and that Amendment process was started in 1909, perhaps under Taft a Republican. The Amendment finally was ratified during the Wilson presidency.

 

[Uncensored2008]

you need to include reagan...

the most overrated president of all time.

ROFL

What a fucking moron hack you are.

 

[Uncensored2008]

How did he commit treason?

Reagan destroyed the USSR. Shallow will NEVER forgive him for that. Reagan committed treason against the Worker Paradise that Jim Wright was helping Shallow's beloved Soviet Allies create.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Obama
Kennedy
FDR
Wilson

In that order

Only problem is that no one claims Obama is a competent president, much less "great."

Most overrated? Lincoln, without a doubt.

 

[there4eyeM]

Reagan destroyed the Soviet Union?!?

Whew....

 

[Uncensored2008]

Reagan destroyed the Soviet Union?!?

Whew....

If he didn't, Shallow, Jillian, Blindboo, and a lot of others are worked up over nothing.

Besides, if he didn't, Obama couldn't go to Berlin and demand "Mr. Putin, BUILD THIS WALL!"

 

[Vidi]

Reagan destroyed the Soviet Union?!?

Whew....

If he didn't, Shallow, Jillian, Blindboo, and a lot of others are worked up over nothing.

Besides, if he didn't, Obama couldn't go to Berlin and demand "Mr. Putin, BUILD THIS WALL!"

lame.

not even close to funny or amusing or even biting.

just lame.

 

[Uncensored2008]

lame.

not even close to funny or amusing or even biting.

just lame.

The fact is that leftists like the ones mentioned hate Reagan because he cause the Soviet Union to fall.

Ortega and company were engaging in genocide of the Mesquite Indians due to their resistance to collectivized agriculture. Imagine, a 2,000 year old culture not wanting to give up their way of life to conform with the Marxist goals of the Sandinista rulers? So Ortega ordered them eradicated. But Blindboo calls the resistance fighters "terrorists."

You see, Nicaragua was the dream. The Soviets were always "over there." There was never any chance of an invasion, they were across the sea. I mean yeah, there is Cuba, but it's 90 miles of open ocean.

No, Nicaragua was a Soviet beach head. Nicaragua was the path through Honduras, then Guatemala, and the prize, Mexico. THEN America would have the Soviet Empire at our border. Fifth column member like Jim Wright openly supported the Soviet advance and Jillian could taste the Borscht of a Soviet dominated nation. We were defeated, Shallow knew it, Carter had said it. The Soviet forces only needed move North, and we had a Soviet contingent in Congress to ensure that nothing interfered.

Then that damned Reagan got elected.

Ah but Wright and the Bolsheviks moved fast to support their Sandinista allies. The executive branch alone has the constitutional authority to conduct a foreign policy, but at the time, pre-Clinton, congress still created funding. All Wright and the 5th column could do is deny funding. Despite Blindboo's fucking lies, the Executive had the constitutional authority to support the insurgents against their Soviet masters.

The thing about the USSR is that it was like many militaristic empires; it fed on conquest. It needed new conquests to invade and rape in order to survive. If you've ever jumped rocks to get across the river, you can understand the process. You're alright as long as you keep moving, but if you stop, then you will fall in. Reagan stopped the Soviets in Nicaragua and Afghanistan, causing them to collapse. The Soviets had never lost a territory before that.

So yes, the radical left here hate Reagan: Not because he failed or did wrong, but because he succeeded and defeated them.

 

[Friends]

So yes, the radical left here hate Reagan: Not because he failed or did wrong, but because he succeeded and defeated them.

What I regret about Reagan was that he convinced a large percentage of the American people that they could have the government they wanted without paying for it. I do not believe it was necessary to increase military spending during the 1980s, but if it was it was necessary to raise taxes to pay for it. Reagan cut taxes.

In his book The Triumph of Politics: Why the Reagan Revolution failed, David Stockman said that it was never possible to cut taxes, raise defense spending, and balance the budget like Reagan said it was during the campaign of 1980 without making cuts in domestic spending programs most Republican voters would have opposed.

In other words, the Reagan Revolution failed because it was fundamentally dishonest.

 

[Black_Label]

So yes, the radical left here hate Reagan: Not because he failed or did wrong, but because he succeeded and defeated them.

That must be why the radical right worship Reagan like the second coming of christ. He created the taliban and did illegal arms deals with muslims in Iran.

Islam in the middle east is just like america's christian radical right, just with slightly different views of their own kind of sharia law.

 

[Artevelde]

So yes, the radical left here hate Reagan: Not because he failed or did wrong, but because he succeeded and defeated them.

That must be why the radical right worship Reagan like the second coming of christ. He created the taliban and did illegal arms deals with muslims in Iran.

Islam in the middle east is just like america's christian radical right, just with slightly different views of their own kind of sharia law.

You are a complete idiot. The Taliban emerged a very long time after Reagan left office.

 

[Black_Label]

So yes, the radical left here hate Reagan: Not because he failed or did wrong, but because he succeeded and defeated them.

That must be why the radical right worship Reagan like the second coming of christ. He created the taliban and did illegal arms deals with muslims in Iran.

Islam in the middle east is just like america's christian radical right, just with slightly different views of their own kind of sharia law.

You are a complete idiot. The Taliban emerged a very long time after Reagan left office.

Truth hurts that ol' Ronnie created the terror cell that attacked america, and did illegal arms deals with islamists in Iran, doesn't it?

 

[there4eyeM]

Reagan's administration financed international terrorists, euphemistically named 'Contras', who blew up health care facilities and assassinated teachers and functionaries, just like the cowards portrayed today as our sworn enemies in other parts of the world. Until 'W', no president had done as much to lower the world's esteem of the US. Bush II established a record that will be difficult to beat.
That said, do not take this as an attack on Republicans. Both major parties are the enemy.

 

[Uncensored2008]

What I regret about Reagan was that he convinced a large percentage of the American people that they could have the government they wanted without paying for it. I do not believe it was necessary to increase military spending during the 1980s, but if it was it was necessary to raise taxes to pay for it. Reagan cut taxes.

In his book The Triumph of Politics: Why the Reagan Revolution failed, David Stockman said that it was never possible to cut taxes, raise defense spending, and balance the budget like Reagan said it was during the campaign of 1980 without making cuts in domestic spending programs most Republican voters would have opposed.

In other words, the Reagan Revolution failed because it was fundamentally dishonest.

Assumes facts not in existence; to wit "the Reagan revolution failed."