Who Are The Palestinians?

[Mindful]

Arming the Palestinians.

US Consulate in Jerusalem arming Palestinian guards The Times of Israel

 

[Phoenall]

What does that have to do with anything? They don't even have a military

Bingo!

It has always been Israel's mooched military attacking Palestinian civilians starting before 1948.

Link?

Speaking if attacking, it was the Arabs who were attacking Jewish civilians bexore 1948 and before any Arab was attacked.
But you're deflecting. Palestinians are still the biggest moochers/cry babies of the world.
Not my fault you can't handle the truth.
Speaking of mooching, where does Hamas get their rockets/ weapons from? Or the money for them?

Do they get $3B a year like the mooch capital of the world gets?

And besides, Palestine gets no military aid.

Actually they get about twice that amount and it all goes on terrorist weapons, see my links to this effect

Yep that is all you ever post

 

[Phoenall]

What does that have to do with anything? They don't even have a military

Bingo!

It has always been Israel's mooched military attacking Palestinian civilians starting before 1948.

Link?

Speaking if attacking, it was the Arabs who were attacking Jewish civilians bexore 1948 and before any Arab was attacked.
But you're deflecting. Palestinians are still the biggest moochers/cry babies of the world.
Not my fault you can't handle the truth.
Speaking of mooching, where does Hamas get their rockets/ weapons from? Or the money for them?

Do they get $3B a year like the mooch capital of the world gets?

And besides, Palestine gets no military aid.

Iran gives them tons of military aid.

Palestine has no military.

It does it has a para-military

 

[Phoenall]

The LoN didn't have to give them anything. They already lived there.

So did the Jews and you want to disown them of their heritage, but living there and being citizens are two different things. While the arab muslims say themselves are Syrians they had no claim to Palestine, and while they illegally migrated they forewent any claim to the land they squatted on.

Now you are seeing that your claims are as full of holes as a colander you are grasping at straws to win points.

The only road to peace is for Israel to find a way to remove all the Palestinian squatters.

Israelites will never have peace , and the Pals wont as long as the invaders are there.

Not while NAZI JEW HATERS like you are allowed to spout your filthy lies they wont. And according to history of the Ottomans the arab muslims are the invaders.

Someone's forgotten the Babylonians, Persians Greeks, Romans, Persians (again) Romans (again) THEN we have the Arabs...the only "Nazi Jew Haters" on this forum are Zionists.

So all these invaded between 1850 and 1948 did they ?

Link to prove the above claim, and not some NAZI site either

 

[Phoenall]

What does that have to do with anything? They don't even have a military

Bingo!

It has always been Israel's mooched military attacking Palestinian civilians starting before 1948.

Link?

Speaking if attacking, it was the Arabs who were attacking Jewish civilians bexore 1948 and before any Arab was attacked.
But you're deflecting. Palestinians are still the biggest moochers/cry babies of the world.
Not my fault you can't handle the truth.
Speaking of mooching, where does Hamas get their rockets/ weapons from? Or the money for them?

Do they get $3B a year like the mooch capital of the world gets?

And besides, Palestine gets no military aid.

Palestine IS the mooch capital of the world. They get their weapons from Iran and Lebanon. Not to mention they get TONS of aid from many different countries/organizations around the world.

Israel gets their weapons from Germany, France and the US, China, and India.

All paid for of course, so why did you miss that little part out ? Unlike the Palestinian arab muslims who beg from iran all the weapons they can get their hands on so they can target Israeli children

 

[Hossfly]

Bingo!

It has always been Israel's mooched military attacking Palestinian civilians starting before 1948.

Link?

Speaking if attacking, it was the Arabs who were attacking Jewish civilians bexore 1948 and before any Arab was attacked.
But you're deflecting. Palestinians are still the biggest moochers/cry babies of the world.
Not my fault you can't handle the truth.
Speaking of mooching, where does Hamas get their rockets/ weapons from? Or the money for them?

Do they get $3B a year like the mooch capital of the world gets?

And besides, Palestine gets no military aid.

Palestine IS the mooch capital of the world. They get their weapons from Iran and Lebanon. Not to mention they get TONS of aid from many different countries/organizations around the world.

Israel gets their weapons from Germany, France and the US, China, and India.

All paid for of course, so why did you miss that little part out ? Unlike the Palestinian arab muslims who beg from iran all the weapons they can get their hands on so they can target Israeli children

Just so they can add to the body count.


Fatah Doubles Body Count of Terror Massacre in Lauding Attack
Fatah fudges number of Israelis murdered from 37 to 80 in Mughrabi attack, holds ceremony at square named for her in Ramallah.
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By Ari Yashar

First Publish: 3/11/2015, 9:14 PM

Dalal Mughrabi hero worship in Ramallah (file)
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Palestinian Authority (PA) Chairman Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah faction took the unusual step on Tuesday of more than doubling the number of Israelismurdered in a brutal terrorist attack from 1978, while glorifying the massacre on its anniversary.

Palestinian Media Watch (PMW) revealed that Fatah praised the March 1978 attack, which was committed by a group of Fatah terrorists from Lebanon led by Dalal Mughrabi.

The terrorists hijacked a bus on Israel's coastal highway, and when confronted by the IDF they slaughtered 37 civilians, 12 of them children, wounding another 70 before being neutralized. The attack is known as the Coastal Road massacre in Israel.

But in praising the attack, Fatah on Tuesday inflated the numbers, writing on Facebook "a huge self-sacrificing operation in Herzliya, Tel Aviv. 80 Israelis killed and over 100 wounded



Fatah Doubles Body Count of Terror Massacre - Middle East - News - Arutz Sheva

 

[P F Tinmore]

How many give them military aid?

What does that have to do with anything? They don't even have a military

Bingo!

It has always been Israel's mooched military attacking Palestinian civilians starting before 1948.

Link?

Speaking if attacking, it was the Arabs who were attacking Jewish civilians bexore 1948 and before any Arab was attacked.
But you're deflecting. Palestinians are still the biggest moochers/cry babies of the world.
Not my fault you can't handle the truth.
Speaking of mooching, where does Hamas get their rockets/ weapons from? Or the money for them?

Do they get $3B a year like the mooch capital of the world gets?

And besides, Palestine gets no military aid.

Palestine IS the mooch capital of the world. They get their weapons from Iran and Lebanon. Not to mention they get TONS of aid from many different countries/organizations around the world.

International Aid & the Palestinians: Supporting Israel's Occupation?

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

This is a variation on the theme I discussed in Posting #4 in the "Argument Can Israel Survive Without the Palestinian Authority?" Discussion Thread.

International Aid & the Palestinians: Supporting Israel's Occupation?

(COMMENT)

The host of the media video clip, Clea Thouin (Palestine Studies TV) opens with the remark --- that since 1993, the Palestinians have received about $15 Billion in foreign aid from the donor group. And Nadia Hijab, Senior Fellow at the Palestinian Institute (the interviewee) who takes the position that the $15 Billion goes to support the Israeli Occupation.

I don't agree Ms Hijab. The position that Nadia Hijab takes can only be true if the Palestinians simultaneously claim that they had no control over how the aid is spent. And if that is the case, then the State of Palestine has never been able to meet the Article 22 criteria for independence and sovereignty (ie the stand alone clause). This is further substantiated by Ms Hijab, in the admission that the Palestinians are totally dependent on the aid and incapable of running the country without it.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

This is a variation on the theme I discussed in Posting #4 in the "Argument Can Israel Survive Without the Palestinian Authority?" Discussion Thread.

International Aid & the Palestinians: Supporting Israel's Occupation?

(COMMENT)

The host of the media video clip, Clea Thouin (Palestine Studies TV) opens with the remark --- that since 1993, the Palestinians have received about $15 Billion in foreign aid from the donor group. And Nadia Hijab, Senior Fellow at the Palestinian Institute (the interviewee) who takes the position that the $15 Billion goes to support the Israeli Occupation.

I don't agree Ms Hijab. The position that Nadia Hijab takes can only be true if the Palestinians simultaneously claim that they had no control over how the aid is spent. And if that is the case, then the State of Palestine has never been able to meet the Article 22 criteria for independence and sovereignty (ie the stand alone clause). This is further substantiated by Ms Hijab, in the admission that the Palestinians are totally dependent on the aid and incapable of running the country without it.

Most Respectfully,
R

Oh jeeze, another hit piece.

Of course you do not agree. It does not conform to the Israeli propaganda that you always pimp.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, I consider the Arab Palestinian --- at some point --- must be accountable and responsible for their actions.

P F Tinmore, et al,

This is a variation on the theme I discussed in Posting #4 in the "Argument Can Israel Survive Without the Palestinian Authority?" Discussion Thread.

International Aid & the Palestinians: Supporting Israel's Occupation?

(COMMENT)

The host of the media video clip, Clea Thouin (Palestine Studies TV) opens with the remark --- that since 1993, the Palestinians have received about $15 Billion in foreign aid from the donor group. And Nadia Hijab, Senior Fellow at the Palestinian Institute (the interviewee) who takes the position that the $15 Billion goes to support the Israeli Occupation.

I don't agree Ms Hijab. The position that Nadia Hijab takes can only be true if the Palestinians simultaneously claim that they had no control over how the aid is spent. And if that is the case, then the State of Palestine has never been able to meet the Article 22 criteria for independence and sovereignty (ie the stand alone clause). This is further substantiated by Ms Hijab, in the admission that the Palestinians are totally dependent on the aid and incapable of running the country without it.

Most Respectfully,
R

Oh jeeze, another hit piece.

Of course you do not agree. It does not conform to the Israeli propaganda that you always pimp.

(QUESTION)

If the donor aid is so terrible and so damaging, then why do they accept it?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hossfly]

P F Tinmore, et al,

This is a variation on the theme I discussed in Posting #4 in the "Argument Can Israel Survive Without the Palestinian Authority?" Discussion Thread.

International Aid & the Palestinians: Supporting Israel's Occupation?

(COMMENT)

The host of the media video clip, Clea Thouin (Palestine Studies TV) opens with the remark --- that since 1993, the Palestinians have received about $15 Billion in foreign aid from the donor group. And Nadia Hijab, Senior Fellow at the Palestinian Institute (the interviewee) who takes the position that the $15 Billion goes to support the Israeli Occupation.

I don't agree Ms Hijab. The position that Nadia Hijab takes can only be true if the Palestinians simultaneously claim that they had no control over how the aid is spent. And if that is the case, then the State of Palestine has never been able to meet the Article 22 criteria for independence and sovereignty (ie the stand alone clause). This is further substantiated by Ms Hijab, in the admission that the Palestinians are totally dependent on the aid and incapable of running the country without it.

Most Respectfully,
R

Oh jeeze, another hit piece.

Of course you do not agree. It does not conform to the Israeli propaganda that you always pimp.

What do you want, Tinmore. What would satisfy your little brain? You disagree with everything just like a belligerent drunk.Talk about arguing with the devil!

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, I consider the Arab Palestinian --- at some point --- must be accountable and responsible for their actions.

P F Tinmore, et al,

This is a variation on the theme I discussed in Posting #4 in the "Argument Can Israel Survive Without the Palestinian Authority?" Discussion Thread.

International Aid & the Palestinians: Supporting Israel's Occupation?

(COMMENT)

The host of the media video clip, Clea Thouin (Palestine Studies TV) opens with the remark --- that since 1993, the Palestinians have received about $15 Billion in foreign aid from the donor group. And Nadia Hijab, Senior Fellow at the Palestinian Institute (the interviewee) who takes the position that the $15 Billion goes to support the Israeli Occupation.

I don't agree Ms Hijab. The position that Nadia Hijab takes can only be true if the Palestinians simultaneously claim that they had no control over how the aid is spent. And if that is the case, then the State of Palestine has never been able to meet the Article 22 criteria for independence and sovereignty (ie the stand alone clause). This is further substantiated by Ms Hijab, in the admission that the Palestinians are totally dependent on the aid and incapable of running the country without it.

Most Respectfully,
R

Oh jeeze, another hit piece.

Of course you do not agree. It does not conform to the Israeli propaganda that you always pimp.

(QUESTION)

If the donor aid is so terrible and so damaging, then why do they accept it?

Most Respectfully,
R

What choices do the Palestinians have with a gun in their face?

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Oh --- come on now. The world is damned for giving the donor dollars to the Palestinians who then are accused of collaborating with the Israelis and supporting the Israeli Occupation. On the other hand, you claim that the Palestinians have "no choice" but to accept the donor dollars --- which they then use to collaborate and support occupation.

What choices do the Palestinians have with a gun in their face?

(COMMENT)

In both cases, the Arab Palestinians accepts absolutely no responsibility for the consequences of their action. And in both cases, either the donors, the donors and Israel, and the US are at fault.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Oh --- come on now. The world is damned for giving the donor dollars to the Palestinians who then are accused of collaborating with the Israelis and supporting the Israeli Occupation. On the other hand, you claim that the Palestinians have "no choice" but to accept the donor dollars --- which they then use to collaborate and support occupation.

What choices do the Palestinians have with a gun in their face?

(COMMENT)

In both cases, the Arab Palestinians accepts absolutely no responsibility for the consequences of their action. And in both cases, either the donors, the donors and Israel, and the US are at fault.

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco, Rocco, Rocco, The Palestinians have an Israeli gun in their face and on the other hand they have a foreign money ring in their nose.

Then you repeatedly say that they cannot build a state because they are incompetent.

Where do you get that crap?

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

This is a variation on the theme I discussed in Posting #4 in the "Argument Can Israel Survive Without the Palestinian Authority?" Discussion Thread.

International Aid & the Palestinians: Supporting Israel's Occupation?

(COMMENT)

The host of the media video clip, Clea Thouin (Palestine Studies TV) opens with the remark --- that since 1993, the Palestinians have received about $15 Billion in foreign aid from the donor group. And Nadia Hijab, Senior Fellow at the Palestinian Institute (the interviewee) who takes the position that the $15 Billion goes to support the Israeli Occupation.

I don't agree Ms Hijab. The position that Nadia Hijab takes can only be true if the Palestinians simultaneously claim that they had no control over how the aid is spent. And if that is the case, then the State of Palestine has never been able to meet the Article 22 criteria for independence and sovereignty (ie the stand alone clause). This is further substantiated by Ms Hijab, in the admission that the Palestinians are totally dependent on the aid and incapable of running the country without it.

Most Respectfully,
R

Oh jeeze, another hit piece.

Of course you do not agree. It does not conform to the Israeli propaganda that you always pimp.

Oh shutup Tinmore. The only reason you attack Rocco like that all the time is because he is always refuting your lies, so you are bitter against him.
You are a Palestinian propagandist, so you have no right to accuse someone else of posting propaganda

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Oh --- come on now. The world is damned for giving the donor dollars to the Palestinians who then are accused of collaborating with the Israelis and supporting the Israeli Occupation. On the other hand, you claim that the Palestinians have "no choice" but to accept the donor dollars --- which they then use to collaborate and support occupation.

What choices do the Palestinians have with a gun in their face?

(COMMENT)

In both cases, the Arab Palestinians accepts absolutely no responsibility for the consequences of their action. And in both cases, either the donors, the donors and Israel, and the US are at fault.

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco, Rocco, Rocco, The Palestinians have an Israeli gun in their face and on the other hand they have a foreign money ring in their nose.

Then you repeatedly say that they cannot build a state because they are incompetent.

Where do you get that crap?

Because they ARE incompetent.
They whine about Israel attacking them, but then they launch thousands of rockets.
Palestinians are the most imcompetent crybabies in the world.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

OK --- the claim is:

• gun in their face
• foreign money ring in their nose
• say that they cannot build a state
• they are incompetent

Rocco, Rocco, Rocco, The Palestinians have an Israeli gun in their face and on the other hand they have a foreign money ring in their nose.

Then you repeatedly say that they cannot build a state because they are incompetent.

Where do you get that crap?

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinians started out at the very same point in the sovereignty and independence process as did the Israelis. The two parties made different choices. The outcome of the nation that each party has established over the last half century is the practical and tangible evidence and answer to: "Where do you get that crap."

This is a case where the parties could have a benevolent relationship, or --- a belligerent relationship. The extent to which "gun in their face" was an issue --- is based on the threat posed by the Arab Palestinian to the Israelis. The Palestinians have not made any effort to conceal the fact that they are in a jihadist and armed struggle with the Israelis.

The extent to which "foreign money ring in their nose" is an issue --- is based on the Arab Palestinian acceptance. This money is not forced upon them at gun-point. The Arab Palestinian can turn-down the money at any time.

Periodically --- Palestinian Authority (PA) President Mahmoud Abbas threatens Israel with disbanding his government or some portion of it. Palestinians living under Israeli rule are increasingly questioning whether the PA is truly looking out for their interests. What is different this time around is the threat to discontinue security coordination. There is no question that there is an increasingly unpopular attitude, as many Arab Palestinians feel the arrangement assists the Israeli military in control over the occupied territory.

The fact that the Palestinians, after a quarter century, still don't have full recognition of the state, is a epitaph to its competence.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hossfly]

P F Tinmore, et al,

OK --- the claim is:

• gun in their face
• foreign money ring in their nose
• say that they cannot build a state
• they are incompetent

Rocco, Rocco, Rocco, The Palestinians have an Israeli gun in their face and on the other hand they have a foreign money ring in their nose.

Then you repeatedly say that they cannot build a state because they are incompetent.

Where do you get that crap?

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinians started out at the very same point in the sovereignty and independence process as did the Israelis. The two parties made different choices. The outcome of the nation that each party has established over the last half century is the practical and tangible evidence and answer to: "Where do you get that crap."

This is a case where the parties could have a benevolent relationship, or --- a belligerent relationship. The extent to which "gun in their face" was an issue --- is based on the threat posed by the Arab Palestinian to the Israelis. The Palestinians have not made any effort to conceal the fact that they are in a jihadist and armed struggle with the Israelis.

The extent to which "foreign money ring in their nose" is an issue --- is based on the Arab Palestinian acceptance. This money is not forced upon them at gun-point. The Arab Palestinian can turn-down the money at any time.

Periodically --- Palestinian Authority (PA) President Mahmoud Abbas threatens Israel with disbanding his government or some portion of it. Palestinians living under Israeli rule are increasingly questioning whether the PA is truly looking out for their interests. What is different this time around is the threat to discontinue security coordination. There is no question that there is an increasingly unpopular attitude, as many Arab Palestinians feel the arrangement assists the Israeli military in control over the occupied territory.

The fact that the Palestinians, after a quarter century, still don't have full recognition of the state, is a epitaph to its competence.

Most Respectfully,
R

Now this is a horrible sight. Rocco pissing into the wind. I can't take it anymore.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

OK --- the claim is:

• gun in their face
• foreign money ring in their nose
• say that they cannot build a state
• they are incompetent

Rocco, Rocco, Rocco, The Palestinians have an Israeli gun in their face and on the other hand they have a foreign money ring in their nose.

Then you repeatedly say that they cannot build a state because they are incompetent.

Where do you get that crap?

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinians started out at the very same point in the sovereignty and independence process as did the Israelis. The two parties made different choices. The outcome of the nation that each party has established over the last half century is the practical and tangible evidence and answer to: "Where do you get that crap."

This is a case where the parties could have a benevolent relationship, or --- a belligerent relationship. The extent to which "gun in their face" was an issue --- is based on the threat posed by the Arab Palestinian to the Israelis. The Palestinians have not made any effort to conceal the fact that they are in a jihadist and armed struggle with the Israelis.

The extent to which "foreign money ring in their nose" is an issue --- is based on the Arab Palestinian acceptance. This money is not forced upon them at gun-point. The Arab Palestinian can turn-down the money at any time.

Periodically --- Palestinian Authority (PA) President Mahmoud Abbas threatens Israel with disbanding his government or some portion of it. Palestinians living under Israeli rule are increasingly questioning whether the PA is truly looking out for their interests. What is different this time around is the threat to discontinue security coordination. There is no question that there is an increasingly unpopular attitude, as many Arab Palestinians feel the arrangement assists the Israeli military in control over the occupied territory.

The fact that the Palestinians, after a quarter century, still don't have full recognition of the state, is a epitaph to its competence.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Arab Palestinians started out at the very same point in the sovereignty and independence process as did the Israelis.​

Rocco, you always start with a lie them form your conclusion based on false premise.

Palestine was born under British occupation. Britain (a long time colonialists and world superpower) landed in Palestine in full military gear and the Balfour Declaration in its pocket. Britain kicked the Palestinians to the curb and catered to the foreign Zionist agenda. Meanwhile the Zionists were importing foreign settlers by the boatload with the stated goal of creating a Jewish state in Palestine.

The Palestinians have been defending themselves from that aggression until today.

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

OK --- the claim is:

• gun in their face
• foreign money ring in their nose
• say that they cannot build a state
• they are incompetent

Rocco, Rocco, Rocco, The Palestinians have an Israeli gun in their face and on the other hand they have a foreign money ring in their nose.

Then you repeatedly say that they cannot build a state because they are incompetent.

Where do you get that crap?

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinians started out at the very same point in the sovereignty and independence process as did the Israelis. The two parties made different choices. The outcome of the nation that each party has established over the last half century is the practical and tangible evidence and answer to: "Where do you get that crap."

This is a case where the parties could have a benevolent relationship, or --- a belligerent relationship. The extent to which "gun in their face" was an issue --- is based on the threat posed by the Arab Palestinian to the Israelis. The Palestinians have not made any effort to conceal the fact that they are in a jihadist and armed struggle with the Israelis.

The extent to which "foreign money ring in their nose" is an issue --- is based on the Arab Palestinian acceptance. This money is not forced upon them at gun-point. The Arab Palestinian can turn-down the money at any time.

Periodically --- Palestinian Authority (PA) President Mahmoud Abbas threatens Israel with disbanding his government or some portion of it. Palestinians living under Israeli rule are increasingly questioning whether the PA is truly looking out for their interests. What is different this time around is the threat to discontinue security coordination. There is no question that there is an increasingly unpopular attitude, as many Arab Palestinians feel the arrangement assists the Israeli military in control over the occupied territory.

The fact that the Palestinians, after a quarter century, still don't have full recognition of the state, is a epitaph to its competence.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Arab Palestinians started out at the very same point in the sovereignty and independence process as did the Israelis.​

Rocco, you always start with a lie them form your conclusion based on false premise.

Palestine was born under British occupation. Britain (a long time colonialists and world superpower) landed in Palestine in full military gear and the Balfour Declaration in its pocket. Britain kicked the Palestinians to the curb and catered to the foreign Zionist agenda. Meanwhile the Zionists were importing foreign settlers by the boatload with the stated goal of creating a Jewish state in Palestine.

The Palestinians have been defending themselves from that aggression until today.

Israelis have been defending themselves since their inception. What's your point.

BTW, can you give me some examples of the Palestinians having defended themselves?

"Rocco, you always start with a lie"

Tinmore, 99% of what you say is a lie. You're ragging on Rocco because you simply cannot accept the truth.