Which is worse

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Manafort being put in solitary before any trial or proof of guilt is a crime in itself.

Yeah, poor Paulie walnuts...


They pointed out that he has had a personal telephone in his unit at the Northern Neck Regional Jail and has had more than 100 phone calls with his lawyers in the last three weeks as they prepare for trial. He has a personal laptop on which he can review materials from the case and access to his own workspace to meet with his legal team, they said. Visitors’ logs show Manafort having multiple visits each week with his lawyers, according to the prosecutors.

Though Manafort’s lawyers have said he spends nearly all of his days in solitary confinement, prosecutors described his living arrangements as a “private, self-contained living unit, which is larger than other inmates’ units” with its own bathroom and shower.

“On the monitored prison phone calls, Manafort has mentioned that he is being treated like a ‘VIP,’” prosecutors quoted him as having said. They also said Manafort has said in the calls that he is able to visit with his lawyers every day and that he has “all my files like I would at home.”
Prosecutors: Manafort says he's treated like 'VIP' in jail
As to your bank question, yes, attempted robbery is a crime. But that has nothing to do with attempting to influence an election in another country, we have been doing that since 1776 and other countries have been trying to influence ours since then too. There is nothing new here. Nothing but left wingers who cannot accept the FACT the their beloved Hillary got her fat ass kicked by Donald Trump and that Trump is doing an outstanding job as president

So it was a crime to try to influence our election. People have been trying to rob banks since the beginning of banks too...still a crime.

So, even if no votes or voters were swayed (and we don't know one way or the other, but evidence suggests the Russians had an impact), a crime was still committed and the foreign criminals may have had American help. That would be important to know don't ya think?


you are wrong, it is not a crime for one country to try to influence the elections in another country, there is no body of international law that would cover such things. It is a crime however, for a federal employee to try to use his/her position to try to influence the outcome of a federal election, can you say: Strzok and Page and McCabe, and Comey, and Lynch--------------AND Obama?

No, I'm not wrong. Russia committed crimes. That's how all the charges are coming about in the Special Counsel investigation. These are things we know. What we don't know is how much help Russia got with their criminal activity from American traitors.

Riddle me this, joker...why didn't anything come out about the Russia investigation until after the election if the "deep state" was out to get Trump?


Are citizens of Russia (or any other country) subject to US law when they are not in the US? those Russians who were indicted will never be brought to trial in this country, your naivete and ignorance are amazing.

do you think the fake dossier was not brought out before the election? do you think the Russia rumors were not brought out before the election? you live in fantasy land, witchey.
 
Come on, Redfish...tell us all about the "deep state" that was out to stop Trump at all costs.

The FBI's investigation started in July of 2016. If Strzok and the FBI wanted to stop Trump, all it would have taken was a few selective leaks to the Press...And yet that didn't happen. Comey felt the need to tell us about Huma's emails days before the election but stayed completely mum on the fact that Trump and his campaign were under counter intelligence investigation.


already answered.
 
[
Manafort being put in solitary before any trial or proof of guilt is a crime in itself.

Yeah, poor Paulie walnuts...


They pointed out that he has had a personal telephone in his unit at the Northern Neck Regional Jail and has had more than 100 phone calls with his lawyers in the last three weeks as they prepare for trial. He has a personal laptop on which he can review materials from the case and access to his own workspace to meet with his legal team, they said. Visitors’ logs show Manafort having multiple visits each week with his lawyers, according to the prosecutors.

Though Manafort’s lawyers have said he spends nearly all of his days in solitary confinement, prosecutors described his living arrangements as a “private, self-contained living unit, which is larger than other inmates’ units” with its own bathroom and shower.

“On the monitored prison phone calls, Manafort has mentioned that he is being treated like a ‘VIP,’” prosecutors quoted him as having said. They also said Manafort has said in the calls that he is able to visit with his lawyers every day and that he has “all my files like I would at home.”
Prosecutors: Manafort says he's treated like 'VIP' in jail
As to your bank question, yes, attempted robbery is a crime. But that has nothing to do with attempting to influence an election in another country, we have been doing that since 1776 and other countries have been trying to influence ours since then too. There is nothing new here. Nothing but left wingers who cannot accept the FACT the their beloved Hillary got her fat ass kicked by Donald Trump and that Trump is doing an outstanding job as president

So it was a crime to try to influence our election. People have been trying to rob banks since the beginning of banks too...still a crime.

So, even if no votes or voters were swayed (and we don't know one way or the other, but evidence suggests the Russians had an impact), a crime was still committed and the foreign criminals may have had American help. That would be important to know don't ya think?


you are wrong, it is not a crime for one country to try to influence the elections in another country, there is no body of international law that would cover such things. It is a crime however, for a federal employee to try to use his/her position to try to influence the outcome of a federal election, can you say: Strzok and Page and McCabe, and Comey, and Lynch--------------AND Obama?

No, I'm not wrong. Russia committed crimes. That's how all the charges are coming about in the Special Counsel investigation. These are things we know. What we don't know is how much help Russia got with their criminal activity from American traitors.

Riddle me this, joker...why didn't anything come out about the Russia investigation until after the election if the "deep state" was out to get Trump?


Are citizens of Russia (or any other country) subject to US law when they are not in the US? those Russians who were indicted will never be brought to trial in this country, your naivete and ignorance are amazing.

do you think the fake dossier was not brought out before the election? do you think the Russia rumors were not brought out before the election? you live in fantasy land, witchey.

The Steele Dossier was not released until January 2017, fool. That was after the election. Your deep state tinfoil conspiracy falls apart, fishy. If the agents were dedicated to stopping a Trump presidency, they would have leaked the investigation. We, the American people, didn't find out that there was an active counter intelligence investigation until after the election.
 
[
Manafort being put in solitary before any trial or proof of guilt is a crime in itself.

Yeah, poor Paulie walnuts...


They pointed out that he has had a personal telephone in his unit at the Northern Neck Regional Jail and has had more than 100 phone calls with his lawyers in the last three weeks as they prepare for trial. He has a personal laptop on which he can review materials from the case and access to his own workspace to meet with his legal team, they said. Visitors’ logs show Manafort having multiple visits each week with his lawyers, according to the prosecutors.

Though Manafort’s lawyers have said he spends nearly all of his days in solitary confinement, prosecutors described his living arrangements as a “private, self-contained living unit, which is larger than other inmates’ units” with its own bathroom and shower.

“On the monitored prison phone calls, Manafort has mentioned that he is being treated like a ‘VIP,’” prosecutors quoted him as having said. They also said Manafort has said in the calls that he is able to visit with his lawyers every day and that he has “all my files like I would at home.”
Prosecutors: Manafort says he's treated like 'VIP' in jail
As to your bank question, yes, attempted robbery is a crime. But that has nothing to do with attempting to influence an election in another country, we have been doing that since 1776 and other countries have been trying to influence ours since then too. There is nothing new here. Nothing but left wingers who cannot accept the FACT the their beloved Hillary got her fat ass kicked by Donald Trump and that Trump is doing an outstanding job as president

So it was a crime to try to influence our election. People have been trying to rob banks since the beginning of banks too...still a crime.

So, even if no votes or voters were swayed (and we don't know one way or the other, but evidence suggests the Russians had an impact), a crime was still committed and the foreign criminals may have had American help. That would be important to know don't ya think?


you are wrong, it is not a crime for one country to try to influence the elections in another country, there is no body of international law that would cover such things. It is a crime however, for a federal employee to try to use his/her position to try to influence the outcome of a federal election, can you say: Strzok and Page and McCabe, and Comey, and Lynch--------------AND Obama?

No, I'm not wrong. Russia committed crimes. That's how all the charges are coming about in the Special Counsel investigation. These are things we know. What we don't know is how much help Russia got with their criminal activity from American traitors.

Riddle me this, joker...why didn't anything come out about the Russia investigation until after the election if the "deep state" was out to get Trump?


Are citizens of Russia (or any other country) subject to US law when they are not in the US? those Russians who were indicted will never be brought to trial in this country, your naivete and ignorance are amazing.

do you think the fake dossier was not brought out before the election? do you think the Russia rumors were not brought out before the election? you live in fantasy land, witchey.

The Steele Dossier was not released until January 2017, fool. That was after the election. Your deep state tinfoil conspiracy falls apart, fishy. If the agents were dedicated to stopping a Trump presidency, they would have leaked the investigation. We, the American people, didn't find out that there was an active counter intelligence investigation until after the election.


nothing you have ever posted is true

Timeline: The making of the Christopher Steele Trump-Russia dossier
 
Yeah, poor Paulie walnuts...


They pointed out that he has had a personal telephone in his unit at the Northern Neck Regional Jail and has had more than 100 phone calls with his lawyers in the last three weeks as they prepare for trial. He has a personal laptop on which he can review materials from the case and access to his own workspace to meet with his legal team, they said. Visitors’ logs show Manafort having multiple visits each week with his lawyers, according to the prosecutors.

Though Manafort’s lawyers have said he spends nearly all of his days in solitary confinement, prosecutors described his living arrangements as a “private, self-contained living unit, which is larger than other inmates’ units” with its own bathroom and shower.

“On the monitored prison phone calls, Manafort has mentioned that he is being treated like a ‘VIP,’” prosecutors quoted him as having said. They also said Manafort has said in the calls that he is able to visit with his lawyers every day and that he has “all my files like I would at home.”
Prosecutors: Manafort says he's treated like 'VIP' in jailSo it was a crime to try to influence our election. People have been trying to rob banks since the beginning of banks too...still a crime.

So, even if no votes or voters were swayed (and we don't know one way or the other, but evidence suggests the Russians had an impact), a crime was still committed and the foreign criminals may have had American help. That would be important to know don't ya think?


you are wrong, it is not a crime for one country to try to influence the elections in another country, there is no body of international law that would cover such things. It is a crime however, for a federal employee to try to use his/her position to try to influence the outcome of a federal election, can you say: Strzok and Page and McCabe, and Comey, and Lynch--------------AND Obama?

No, I'm not wrong. Russia committed crimes. That's how all the charges are coming about in the Special Counsel investigation. These are things we know. What we don't know is how much help Russia got with their criminal activity from American traitors.

Riddle me this, joker...why didn't anything come out about the Russia investigation until after the election if the "deep state" was out to get Trump?


Are citizens of Russia (or any other country) subject to US law when they are not in the US? those Russians who were indicted will never be brought to trial in this country, your naivete and ignorance are amazing.

do you think the fake dossier was not brought out before the election? do you think the Russia rumors were not brought out before the election? you live in fantasy land, witchey.

The Steele Dossier was not released until January 2017, fool. That was after the election. Your deep state tinfoil conspiracy falls apart, fishy. If the agents were dedicated to stopping a Trump presidency, they would have leaked the investigation. We, the American people, didn't find out that there was an active counter intelligence investigation until after the election.


nothing you have ever posted is true

Timeline: The making of the Christopher Steele Trump-Russia dossier

It was not released to the public until AFTER the election. Your own link says so. If the "deep state" had been out to get Trump, the American public would have informed of the investigation BEFORE the election...you know, like Comey did with Clinton.
 
a foreign government trying to influence an election, or our own government trying to influence an election.


just for discussion purposes lets assume that the Russians tried to influence our election and the FBI and DOJ tried to influence our election. Doesn't matter who they tried to help or hurt.

Which is worse?

Anything involving the far left is worse!
 
you are wrong, it is not a crime for one country to try to influence the elections in another country, there is no body of international law that would cover such things. It is a crime however, for a federal employee to try to use his/her position to try to influence the outcome of a federal election, can you say: Strzok and Page and McCabe, and Comey, and Lynch--------------AND Obama?

No, I'm not wrong. Russia committed crimes. That's how all the charges are coming about in the Special Counsel investigation. These are things we know. What we don't know is how much help Russia got with their criminal activity from American traitors.

Riddle me this, joker...why didn't anything come out about the Russia investigation until after the election if the "deep state" was out to get Trump?


Are citizens of Russia (or any other country) subject to US law when they are not in the US? those Russians who were indicted will never be brought to trial in this country, your naivete and ignorance are amazing.

do you think the fake dossier was not brought out before the election? do you think the Russia rumors were not brought out before the election? you live in fantasy land, witchey.

The Steele Dossier was not released until January 2017, fool. That was after the election. Your deep state tinfoil conspiracy falls apart, fishy. If the agents were dedicated to stopping a Trump presidency, they would have leaked the investigation. We, the American people, didn't find out that there was an active counter intelligence investigation until after the election.


nothing you have ever posted is true

Timeline: The making of the Christopher Steele Trump-Russia dossier

It was not released to the public until AFTER the election. Your own link says so. If the "deep state" had been out to get Trump, the American public would have informed of the investigation BEFORE the election...you know, like Comey did with Clinton.


when did the investigation of "Russian collusion" start? You are making a fool of yourself. When was Mueller appointed? Are you saying that no one knew about the Mueller investigation before the election? Are you that dumb?
 
No, I'm not wrong. Russia committed crimes. That's how all the charges are coming about in the Special Counsel investigation. These are things we know. What we don't know is how much help Russia got with their criminal activity from American traitors.

Riddle me this, joker...why didn't anything come out about the Russia investigation until after the election if the "deep state" was out to get Trump?


Are citizens of Russia (or any other country) subject to US law when they are not in the US? those Russians who were indicted will never be brought to trial in this country, your naivete and ignorance are amazing.

do you think the fake dossier was not brought out before the election? do you think the Russia rumors were not brought out before the election? you live in fantasy land, witchey.

The Steele Dossier was not released until January 2017, fool. That was after the election. Your deep state tinfoil conspiracy falls apart, fishy. If the agents were dedicated to stopping a Trump presidency, they would have leaked the investigation. We, the American people, didn't find out that there was an active counter intelligence investigation until after the election.


nothing you have ever posted is true

Timeline: The making of the Christopher Steele Trump-Russia dossier

It was not released to the public until AFTER the election. Your own link says so. If the "deep state" had been out to get Trump, the American public would have informed of the investigation BEFORE the election...you know, like Comey did with Clinton.


when did the investigation of "Russian collusion" start? You are making a fool of yourself. When was Mueller appointed? Are you saying that no one knew about the Mueller investigation before the election? Are you that dumb?

It doesn't matter when the investigation started. The fact that we, the American people, didn't find out about the investigation until after the election completely destroys your "deep state" conspiracy theory.
 
a foreign government trying to influence an election, or our own government trying to influence an election.


just for discussion purposes lets assume that the Russians tried to influence our election and the FBI and DOJ tried to influence our election. Doesn't matter who they tried to help or hurt.

Which is worse?

Our own Government spends half its time trying to "influence" the next election.

We live in a never-ending election cycle.

Nothing gets done because both parties are playing a tug-o-war of power.

Imagine if we got to vote on withholding pay each election cycle based on performance and cooperation among elected officials.

Compromised is a job requirement -- they always fail.
 
Are citizens of Russia (or any other country) subject to US law when they are not in the US? those Russians who were indicted will never be brought to trial in this country, your naivete and ignorance are amazing.

do you think the fake dossier was not brought out before the election? do you think the Russia rumors were not brought out before the election? you live in fantasy land, witchey.

The Steele Dossier was not released until January 2017, fool. That was after the election. Your deep state tinfoil conspiracy falls apart, fishy. If the agents were dedicated to stopping a Trump presidency, they would have leaked the investigation. We, the American people, didn't find out that there was an active counter intelligence investigation until after the election.


nothing you have ever posted is true

Timeline: The making of the Christopher Steele Trump-Russia dossier

It was not released to the public until AFTER the election. Your own link says so. If the "deep state" had been out to get Trump, the American public would have informed of the investigation BEFORE the election...you know, like Comey did with Clinton.


when did the investigation of "Russian collusion" start? You are making a fool of yourself. When was Mueller appointed? Are you saying that no one knew about the Mueller investigation before the election? Are you that dumb?

It doesn't matter when the investigation started. The fact that we, the American people, didn't find out about the investigation until after the election completely destroys your "deep state" conspiracy theory.


maybe you didn't find out til then but the rest of us knew about it when it started. Why are you unable to be truthful about any of this? It reminds me why I put you on ignore previously, you are a disingenuous poster, a partisan hack.
 
a foreign government trying to influence an election, or our own government trying to influence an election.


just for discussion purposes lets assume that the Russians tried to influence our election and the FBI and DOJ tried to influence our election. Doesn't matter who they tried to help or hurt.

Which is worse?

Our own Government spends half its time trying to "influence" the next election.

We live in a never-ending election cycle.

Nothing gets done because both parties are playing a tug-o-war of power.

Imagine if we got to vote on withholding pay each election cycle based on performance and cooperation among elected officials.

Compromised is a job requirement -- they always fail.


I agree with you on the perpetual campaign and that it prevents compromise and getting things done. I am very glad that Trump is getting things done in spite of that, and that is exactly why the media, the dems, the rinos, and the deep state hate him so much. He is calling them out and showing them up.
 
The Steele Dossier was not released until January 2017, fool. That was after the election. Your deep state tinfoil conspiracy falls apart, fishy. If the agents were dedicated to stopping a Trump presidency, they would have leaked the investigation. We, the American people, didn't find out that there was an active counter intelligence investigation until after the election.


nothing you have ever posted is true

Timeline: The making of the Christopher Steele Trump-Russia dossier

It was not released to the public until AFTER the election. Your own link says so. If the "deep state" had been out to get Trump, the American public would have informed of the investigation BEFORE the election...you know, like Comey did with Clinton.


when did the investigation of "Russian collusion" start? You are making a fool of yourself. When was Mueller appointed? Are you saying that no one knew about the Mueller investigation before the election? Are you that dumb?

It doesn't matter when the investigation started. The fact that we, the American people, didn't find out about the investigation until after the election completely destroys your "deep state" conspiracy theory.


maybe you didn't find out til then but the rest of us knew about it when it started. Why are you unable to be truthful about any of this? It reminds me why I put you on ignore previously, you are a disingenuous poster, a partisan hack.

We knew of Russian meddling, we did not know of of the Steele Dossier or its content. We did not know there was an active counter intelligence investigation into the Trump campaign until AFTER the election.

You put me on ignore because I destroy you with facts you have no counter to.
 

It was not released to the public until AFTER the election. Your own link says so. If the "deep state" had been out to get Trump, the American public would have informed of the investigation BEFORE the election...you know, like Comey did with Clinton.


when did the investigation of "Russian collusion" start? You are making a fool of yourself. When was Mueller appointed? Are you saying that no one knew about the Mueller investigation before the election? Are you that dumb?

It doesn't matter when the investigation started. The fact that we, the American people, didn't find out about the investigation until after the election completely destroys your "deep state" conspiracy theory.


maybe you didn't find out til then but the rest of us knew about it when it started. Why are you unable to be truthful about any of this? It reminds me why I put you on ignore previously, you are a disingenuous poster, a partisan hack.

We knew of Russian meddling, we did not know of of the Steele Dossier or its content. We did not know there was an active counter intelligence investigation into the Trump campaign until AFTER the election.

You put me on ignore because I destroy you with facts you have no counter to.


you said that we did not know about the Russia/collusion investigation until after the election, that is not true. Mueller was charged to investigate Russian attempts to influence our election, not to engage in a witchhunt of the last 30 years of everyone involved in the Trump campaign. His committee consists solely of democrats and Hillary contributors, how can anyone think this is not biased?

your continual partisan lying and inability to participate in a civil debate is why I put you on ignore, and may do so again.
 
a foreign government trying to influence an election, or our own government trying to influence an election.


just for discussion purposes lets assume that the Russians tried to influence our election and the FBI and DOJ tried to influence our election. Doesn't matter who they tried to help or hurt.

Which is worse?
The media tried to influence the election more than any other group.
 
a foreign government trying to influence an election, or our own government trying to influence an election.


just for discussion purposes lets assume that the Russians tried to influence our election and the FBI and DOJ tried to influence our election. Doesn't matter who they tried to help or hurt.

Which is worse?
The media tried to influence the election more than any other group.


true, and they failed. that's why they continue to this day with the lies and attacks. they thought they were omnipotent, but the American voters showed them that they aren't.
 
It was not released to the public until AFTER the election. Your own link says so. If the "deep state" had been out to get Trump, the American public would have informed of the investigation BEFORE the election...you know, like Comey did with Clinton.


when did the investigation of "Russian collusion" start? You are making a fool of yourself. When was Mueller appointed? Are you saying that no one knew about the Mueller investigation before the election? Are you that dumb?

It doesn't matter when the investigation started. The fact that we, the American people, didn't find out about the investigation until after the election completely destroys your "deep state" conspiracy theory.


maybe you didn't find out til then but the rest of us knew about it when it started. Why are you unable to be truthful about any of this? It reminds me why I put you on ignore previously, you are a disingenuous poster, a partisan hack.

We knew of Russian meddling, we did not know of of the Steele Dossier or its content. We did not know there was an active counter intelligence investigation into the Trump campaign until AFTER the election.

You put me on ignore because I destroy you with facts you have no counter to.


you said that we did not know about the Russia/collusion investigation until after the election, that is not true. Mueller was charged to investigate Russian attempts to influence our election, not to engage in a witchhunt of the last 30 years of everyone involved in the Trump campaign. His committee consists solely of democrats and Hillary contributors, how can anyone think this is not biased?

No fishy, that's not what I said. I pointed out how stupid your deep state conspiracy theory is because we, the American people, were not informed that the Trump campaign was under counter intelligence investigation until AFTER the election. A "deep state partisan FBI would have disclosed that had they been out to get the orange oligarch.


your continual partisan lying and inability to participate in a civil debate is why I put you on ignore, and may do so again.

Where have I been uncivil? Pointing out facts you have no response to? You poor thing!!! Vicious!
 
when did the investigation of "Russian collusion" start? You are making a fool of yourself. When was Mueller appointed? Are you saying that no one knew about the Mueller investigation before the election? Are you that dumb?

It doesn't matter when the investigation started. The fact that we, the American people, didn't find out about the investigation until after the election completely destroys your "deep state" conspiracy theory.


maybe you didn't find out til then but the rest of us knew about it when it started. Why are you unable to be truthful about any of this? It reminds me why I put you on ignore previously, you are a disingenuous poster, a partisan hack.

We knew of Russian meddling, we did not know of of the Steele Dossier or its content. We did not know there was an active counter intelligence investigation into the Trump campaign until AFTER the election.

You put me on ignore because I destroy you with facts you have no counter to.


you said that we did not know about the Russia/collusion investigation until after the election, that is not true. Mueller was charged to investigate Russian attempts to influence our election, not to engage in a witchhunt of the last 30 years of everyone involved in the Trump campaign. His committee consists solely of democrats and Hillary contributors, how can anyone think this is not biased?

No fishy, that's not what I said. I pointed out how stupid your deep state conspiracy theory is because we, the American people, were not informed that the Trump campaign was under counter intelligence investigation until AFTER the election. A "deep state partisan FBI would have disclosed that had they been out to get the orange oligarch.


your continual partisan lying and inability to participate in a civil debate is why I put you on ignore, and may do so again.

Where have I been uncivil? Pointing out facts you have no response to? You poor thing!!! Vicious!
Like everyone else, your "facts" that you trot out each day are always links to "undisclosed sources" or someones opinion, that you parrot as facts. I can only post facts that I have seen and witnessed, which are few, but true.
 
a foreign government trying to influence an election, or our own government trying to influence an election.


just for discussion purposes lets assume that the Russians tried to influence our election and the FBI and DOJ tried to influence our election. Doesn't matter who they tried to help or hurt.

Which is worse?
The media tried to influence the election more than any other group.
By beating up on Hillary about emails at every turn and covering all of Trump's rallies from start to finish? Yeah, okay...

$2 Billion Worth of Free Media for Donald Trump
 
when did the investigation of "Russian collusion" start? You are making a fool of yourself. When was Mueller appointed? Are you saying that no one knew about the Mueller investigation before the election? Are you that dumb?

It doesn't matter when the investigation started. The fact that we, the American people, didn't find out about the investigation until after the election completely destroys your "deep state" conspiracy theory.


maybe you didn't find out til then but the rest of us knew about it when it started. Why are you unable to be truthful about any of this? It reminds me why I put you on ignore previously, you are a disingenuous poster, a partisan hack.

We knew of Russian meddling, we did not know of of the Steele Dossier or its content. We did not know there was an active counter intelligence investigation into the Trump campaign until AFTER the election.

You put me on ignore because I destroy you with facts you have no counter to.


you said that we did not know about the Russia/collusion investigation until after the election, that is not true. Mueller was charged to investigate Russian attempts to influence our election, not to engage in a witchhunt of the last 30 years of everyone involved in the Trump campaign. His committee consists solely of democrats and Hillary contributors, how can anyone think this is not biased?

No fishy, that's not what I said. I pointed out how stupid your deep state conspiracy theory is because we, the American people, were not informed that the Trump campaign was under counter intelligence investigation until AFTER the election. A "deep state partisan FBI would have disclosed that had they been out to get the orange oligarch.


your continual partisan lying and inability to participate in a civil debate is why I put you on ignore, and may do so again.

Where have I been uncivil? Pointing out facts you have no response to? You poor thing!!! Vicious!


when you post talking points and cites from partisan opinion mills that is both uncivil and disingenuous. You will not participate in a normal discussion because you know that the facts will always prove you and your liberal ideology wrong.''

On that topic, can you please tell us when and where socialism, communism, progressivism, or liberalism have ever worked in any country? Give us some good examples of success of the ideology that you want for the USA.
 
a foreign government trying to influence an election, or our own government trying to influence an election.


just for discussion purposes lets assume that the Russians tried to influence our election and the FBI and DOJ tried to influence our election. Doesn't matter who they tried to help or hurt.

Which is worse?
The media tried to influence the election more than any other group.
By beating up on Hillary about emails at every turn and covering all of Trump's rallies from start to finish? Yeah, okay...

$2 Billion Worth of Free Media for Donald Trump


the first presidential candidate that was not part of the establishment was news, and yes they covered it, that's their job. However, most of the left wing media coverage was negative, I would consider that to be free media help for Hillary, and she still lost.
 

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