Which is worse

Link to these uncivil sources, fishy.

Trying to flee your own thread? When were we "on that topic"?

Pure socialism, just like pure capitalism, doesn't work. You need a good dose of both.


uncivil sources: CNN, MSNBC, NY times, Wash post, NBC, the dem party, Maxine waters, Pelosi, schumer, the Clintons, anything funded by Soros, antifa, Farrakhan, BLM, Kimmel, the view. I could go on, but maybe you get it.

what is the difference between capitalism and pure capitalism? socialism and pure socialism. careful, altruism exists in both but is the major aspect of socialism, except for the rulers of socialistic countries, the rulers are dictatorial capitalists.

Links fishy....shouting out names like you’ve got some weird Tourette’s Syndrome is not proof of uncivil behavior.


I'm sure that by now you have seen Whoopi's vile, insane rant. Perfect example of the party of tolerance and love.

Nope...and still waiting for a single link to all this incivility that is so “new”. Come on snowflake, where is all this hate that’s got your panties twisted.


are you totally disconnected from reality? did you miss the Berkley riots, the Ferguson riots, "pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon", Bill Mahr, Whoopi, Kimmel, Streisand, Fonda, Pelosi, Waters, Jackson-Lee, behar, the Time cover, the New Yorker cover, the balloon in London, Farrakhan, BLM, Antifa, the idiot girl in NY that won her primary, flag burning at a Maxine Waters rally, the NFL kneelers.

How can you possibly be awake and not be aware of all the hate coming from the left?

Oh, now were expanding. It's not just politicians you won't provide links for. Now we're going to throw Black Lives Matter and Antifa into the mix too?

Protest isn't incivility or hate silly boy.

How about some in context quotes with links? You keep going with your weird Tourette syndrome, but no links.
 
uncivil sources: CNN, MSNBC, NY times, Wash post, NBC, the dem party, Maxine waters, Pelosi, schumer, the Clintons, anything funded by Soros, antifa, Farrakhan, BLM, Kimmel, the view. I could go on, but maybe you get it.

what is the difference between capitalism and pure capitalism? socialism and pure socialism. careful, altruism exists in both but is the major aspect of socialism, except for the rulers of socialistic countries, the rulers are dictatorial capitalists.

Links fishy....shouting out names like you’ve got some weird Tourette’s Syndrome is not proof of uncivil behavior.


I'm sure that by now you have seen Whoopi's vile, insane rant. Perfect example of the party of tolerance and love.

Nope...and still waiting for a single link to all this incivility that is so “new”. Come on snowflake, where is all this hate that’s got your panties twisted.


are you totally disconnected from reality? did you miss the Berkley riots, the Ferguson riots, "pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon", Bill Mahr, Whoopi, Kimmel, Streisand, Fonda, Pelosi, Waters, Jackson-Lee, behar, the Time cover, the New Yorker cover, the balloon in London, Farrakhan, BLM, Antifa, the idiot girl in NY that won her primary, flag burning at a Maxine Waters rally, the NFL kneelers.

How can you possibly be awake and not be aware of all the hate coming from the left?

Oh, now were expanding. It's not just politicians you won't provide links for. Now we're going to throw Black Lives Matter and Antifa into the mix too?

Protest isn't incivility or hate silly boy.

How about some in context quotes with links? You keep going with your weird Tourette syndrome, but no links.

antifa riots - Google Search
 
That's because until Russian rat fucking and one sided FBI disclosures, he didn't. (And she still got 3 million more votes)


Hillary lost because the American voters understood that she was a corrupt, lying, angry, old, sick bitch. Russia and the FBI did not make her those things, she lost because of who and what she is.

the entire 3 mill vote delta was in California, the state that is now billions in debt and drowning in human waste. The electoral college works, the founders were brilliant.

Oh fishy...it’s sad you’re so ill informed.

It’s true that if California’s vote totals were entirely removed from the equation then Hillary Clinton would lose her popular vote lead, but the logic of that assessment is somewhat flawed. One could, for example, arbitrarily remove the states of New York and Massachusetts from the vote count, docking Clinton roughly 2.6 million votes (and wiping out her popular vote win). Or one could similarly claim that Trump’s electoral vote victory “came entirely from Texas,” since if Clinton had taken the Lone Star state (and its 38 electoral votes), she would also have won the overall election. One could combine any number of states’ vote counts and exclude them from the aggregate, but doing so wouldn’t undo the basic mathematical principle that a vote difference in one state can’t sway the election results to or from a candidate who doesn’t also have significant support from multiple other states. In this case, California wouldn’t have put Clinton over the top in the popular vote total without the additional 61.4 million votes she received in other states.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clintons-popular-vote-win-came-entirely-from-california/


first of all, snopes has been proven to be a left wing propaganda site. Secondly, the quote makes my point, to wit " that a vote difference in one state can’t sway the election results to or from a candidate who doesn’t also have significant support from multiple other states"

which is exactly what I have been saying, the 3mill vote delta in California is not significant as to who won. So your continued rant that "she won the popular vote" is proven to be bullshit by your own citiation. Thanks for proving me right and confirming that you are ignorant.

I proved you 100% wrong...saying it was “all California” is ridiculous. More telling is that Tump’s margin of victory in a number of swing states micro targeted by Russia was fewer than 20,000 voters.
take out the cal delta and who wins the PV?

tell us again how many votes were directly changed by Russia spending 50K on face book ads.

you never prove anything here, except your own ignorance.

Even if not a single person changed their vote based on the Russian disinformation campaign, a crime was still committed by the Russians with help from Americans. We know this to be a fact. Why are you opposed to exposing these Americans that conspired with Russia and bringing them to justice?

And if Facebook ads don't work, why has Crooked Donnie Two Scoops spent so much money on them already?
 
Links fishy....shouting out names like you’ve got some weird Tourette’s Syndrome is not proof of uncivil behavior.


I'm sure that by now you have seen Whoopi's vile, insane rant. Perfect example of the party of tolerance and love.

Nope...and still waiting for a single link to all this incivility that is so “new”. Come on snowflake, where is all this hate that’s got your panties twisted.


are you totally disconnected from reality? did you miss the Berkley riots, the Ferguson riots, "pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon", Bill Mahr, Whoopi, Kimmel, Streisand, Fonda, Pelosi, Waters, Jackson-Lee, behar, the Time cover, the New Yorker cover, the balloon in London, Farrakhan, BLM, Antifa, the idiot girl in NY that won her primary, flag burning at a Maxine Waters rally, the NFL kneelers.

How can you possibly be awake and not be aware of all the hate coming from the left?

Oh, now were expanding. It's not just politicians you won't provide links for. Now we're going to throw Black Lives Matter and Antifa into the mix too?

Protest isn't incivility or hate silly boy.

How about some in context quotes with links? You keep going with your weird Tourette syndrome, but no links.

antifa riots - Google Search
Unite the Right rally - Wikipedia
 
Hillary lost because the American voters understood that she was a corrupt, lying, angry, old, sick bitch. Russia and the FBI did not make her those things, she lost because of who and what she is.

the entire 3 mill vote delta was in California, the state that is now billions in debt and drowning in human waste. The electoral college works, the founders were brilliant.

Oh fishy...it’s sad you’re so ill informed.

It’s true that if California’s vote totals were entirely removed from the equation then Hillary Clinton would lose her popular vote lead, but the logic of that assessment is somewhat flawed. One could, for example, arbitrarily remove the states of New York and Massachusetts from the vote count, docking Clinton roughly 2.6 million votes (and wiping out her popular vote win). Or one could similarly claim that Trump’s electoral vote victory “came entirely from Texas,” since if Clinton had taken the Lone Star state (and its 38 electoral votes), she would also have won the overall election. One could combine any number of states’ vote counts and exclude them from the aggregate, but doing so wouldn’t undo the basic mathematical principle that a vote difference in one state can’t sway the election results to or from a candidate who doesn’t also have significant support from multiple other states. In this case, California wouldn’t have put Clinton over the top in the popular vote total without the additional 61.4 million votes she received in other states.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clintons-popular-vote-win-came-entirely-from-california/


first of all, snopes has been proven to be a left wing propaganda site. Secondly, the quote makes my point, to wit " that a vote difference in one state can’t sway the election results to or from a candidate who doesn’t also have significant support from multiple other states"

which is exactly what I have been saying, the 3mill vote delta in California is not significant as to who won. So your continued rant that "she won the popular vote" is proven to be bullshit by your own citiation. Thanks for proving me right and confirming that you are ignorant.

I proved you 100% wrong...saying it was “all California” is ridiculous. More telling is that Tump’s margin of victory in a number of swing states micro targeted by Russia was fewer than 20,000 voters.
take out the cal delta and who wins the PV?

tell us again how many votes were directly changed by Russia spending 50K on face book ads.

you never prove anything here, except your own ignorance.

Even if not a single person changed their vote based on the Russian disinformation campaign, a crime was still committed by the Russians with help from Americans. We know this to be a fact. Why are you opposed to exposing these Americans that conspired with Russia and bringing them to justice?

And if Facebook ads don't work, why has Crooked Donnie Two Scoops spent so much money on them already?


what specifically was the crime? who by name did it?

both parties spend money on facebook ads, are you now claiming that the dems don't?

was it a crime when Obama tried to influence the brexit vote and the Israeli presidential election?
 
I'm sure that by now you have seen Whoopi's vile, insane rant. Perfect example of the party of tolerance and love.

Nope...and still waiting for a single link to all this incivility that is so “new”. Come on snowflake, where is all this hate that’s got your panties twisted.


are you totally disconnected from reality? did you miss the Berkley riots, the Ferguson riots, "pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon", Bill Mahr, Whoopi, Kimmel, Streisand, Fonda, Pelosi, Waters, Jackson-Lee, behar, the Time cover, the New Yorker cover, the balloon in London, Farrakhan, BLM, Antifa, the idiot girl in NY that won her primary, flag burning at a Maxine Waters rally, the NFL kneelers.

How can you possibly be awake and not be aware of all the hate coming from the left?

Oh, now were expanding. It's not just politicians you won't provide links for. Now we're going to throw Black Lives Matter and Antifa into the mix too?

Protest isn't incivility or hate silly boy.

How about some in context quotes with links? You keep going with your weird Tourette syndrome, but no links.

antifa riots - Google Search
Unite the Right rally - Wikipedia


one example of a few far right wing morons. I gave you thousands of examples of left wing violence, you have one, BFD
 
back to the OP. Does anyone think that internal corruption to influence an election is not worse than foreigners trying to influence an election? If so, why even have elections? just let the DC elites appoint our leaders. that's the way it works in Russia, China, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, etc. Are we not better than them?

Is a hypothetical thing that did not happen worse than something that actually did happen. Hmmm [emoji848]


Good question, since there was no Russian/Trump collusion (but there was with the Hillary campaign) and the FBI/DOJ corruption has been proven, I have to agree. actual happenings are worse than hypotheticals. thanks for pointing that out.

Mounting evidence is pointing to Americans conspiring with Russia to affect the election outcome. Did you read the latest indictments from Mueller and the NY District Attorney's office? Lots of unnamed Americans in them. Hint, none of them are from the Clinton campaign.
 
back to the OP. Does anyone think that internal corruption to influence an election is not worse than foreigners trying to influence an election? If so, why even have elections? just let the DC elites appoint our leaders. that's the way it works in Russia, China, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, etc. Are we not better than them?

Is a hypothetical thing that did not happen worse than something that actually did happen. Hmmm [emoji848]


Good question, since there was no Russian/Trump collusion (but there was with the Hillary campaign) and the FBI/DOJ corruption has been proven, I have to agree. actual happenings are worse than hypotheticals. thanks for pointing that out.

Mounting evidence is pointing to Americans conspiring with Russia to affect the election outcome. Did you read the latest indictments from Mueller and the NY District Attorney's office? Lots of unnamed Americans in them. Hint, none of them are from the Clinton campaign.


so Mewler now knows that 12 Russians hacked the DNC servers, but he has not looked at the servers because the DNC refuses to release them, so what is his evidence to indict these Russians? without the servers how does he know? just asking
 
Nope...and still waiting for a single link to all this incivility that is so “new”. Come on snowflake, where is all this hate that’s got your panties twisted.


are you totally disconnected from reality? did you miss the Berkley riots, the Ferguson riots, "pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon", Bill Mahr, Whoopi, Kimmel, Streisand, Fonda, Pelosi, Waters, Jackson-Lee, behar, the Time cover, the New Yorker cover, the balloon in London, Farrakhan, BLM, Antifa, the idiot girl in NY that won her primary, flag burning at a Maxine Waters rally, the NFL kneelers.

How can you possibly be awake and not be aware of all the hate coming from the left?

Oh, now were expanding. It's not just politicians you won't provide links for. Now we're going to throw Black Lives Matter and Antifa into the mix too?

Protest isn't incivility or hate silly boy.

How about some in context quotes with links? You keep going with your weird Tourette syndrome, but no links.

antifa riots - Google Search
Unite the Right rally - Wikipedia


one example of a few far right wing morons. I gave you thousands of examples of left wing violence, you have one, BFD
No you didn't. You provided examples of people protesting. You've failed miserably in trying to support your claim. There isn't anyone more uncivil than the illegitimate Orange buffoon occupying the oval office.
 
back to the OP. Does anyone think that internal corruption to influence an election is not worse than foreigners trying to influence an election? If so, why even have elections? just let the DC elites appoint our leaders. that's the way it works in Russia, China, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, etc. Are we not better than them?

Is a hypothetical thing that did not happen worse than something that actually did happen. Hmmm [emoji848]


Good question, since there was no Russian/Trump collusion (but there was with the Hillary campaign) and the FBI/DOJ corruption has been proven, I have to agree. actual happenings are worse than hypotheticals. thanks for pointing that out.

Mounting evidence is pointing to Americans conspiring with Russia to affect the election outcome. Did you read the latest indictments from Mueller and the NY District Attorney's office? Lots of unnamed Americans in them. Hint, none of them are from the Clinton campaign.


Heir Mewler will not touch the Clinton campaign, he loves the Clintons. He doesn't care that Russians gave the Clinton foundation 145 million just after she approved the uranium one deal and that Russians paid bill Clinton 450K for a 20 minute speech in Moscow at that same time. he doesn't care that the Clinton campaign paid Russians to create the fake dossier.

this is corruption at its worst, throw in Strzok, Comey, McCabe, and Lynch and you have the makings of a banana republic.
 
back to the OP. Does anyone think that internal corruption to influence an election is not worse than foreigners trying to influence an election? If so, why even have elections? just let the DC elites appoint our leaders. that's the way it works in Russia, China, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, etc. Are we not better than them?

Is a hypothetical thing that did not happen worse than something that actually did happen. Hmmm [emoji848]


Good question, since there was no Russian/Trump collusion (but there was with the Hillary campaign) and the FBI/DOJ corruption has been proven, I have to agree. actual happenings are worse than hypotheticals. thanks for pointing that out.

Mounting evidence is pointing to Americans conspiring with Russia to affect the election outcome. Did you read the latest indictments from Mueller and the NY District Attorney's office? Lots of unnamed Americans in them. Hint, none of them are from the Clinton campaign.


so Mewler now knows that 12 Russians hacked the DNC servers, but he has not looked at the servers because the DNC refuses to release them, so what is his evidence to indict these Russians? without the servers how does he know? just asking

You just keep parroting the illegitimate clowns lies.

What Mueller Knows About the DNC Hack—And Trump Doesn’t
The president’s bizarre obsession with “the DNC server” defies logic or even a basic understanding of what actually happened.

And to what end? What do you think the physical server would show that they don't have? Do you seriously still not believe that Russians stole information from the DNC servers?
 
back to the OP. Does anyone think that internal corruption to influence an election is not worse than foreigners trying to influence an election? If so, why even have elections? just let the DC elites appoint our leaders. that's the way it works in Russia, China, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, etc. Are we not better than them?

Is a hypothetical thing that did not happen worse than something that actually did happen. Hmmm [emoji848]


Good question, since there was no Russian/Trump collusion (but there was with the Hillary campaign) and the FBI/DOJ corruption has been proven, I have to agree. actual happenings are worse than hypotheticals. thanks for pointing that out.

Mounting evidence is pointing to Americans conspiring with Russia to affect the election outcome. Did you read the latest indictments from Mueller and the NY District Attorney's office? Lots of unnamed Americans in them. Hint, none of them are from the Clinton campaign.


Heir Mewler will not touch the Clinton campaign, he loves the Clintons. He doesn't care that Russians gave the Clinton foundation 145 million just after she approved the uranium one deal and that Russians paid bill Clinton 450K for a 20 minute speech in Moscow at that same time. he doesn't care that the Clinton campaign paid Russians to create the fake dossier.

this is corruption at its worst, throw in Strzok, Comey, McCabe, and Lynch and you have the makings of a banana republic.

You are seriously lost in conspiracy land.
 
are you totally disconnected from reality? did you miss the Berkley riots, the Ferguson riots, "pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon", Bill Mahr, Whoopi, Kimmel, Streisand, Fonda, Pelosi, Waters, Jackson-Lee, behar, the Time cover, the New Yorker cover, the balloon in London, Farrakhan, BLM, Antifa, the idiot girl in NY that won her primary, flag burning at a Maxine Waters rally, the NFL kneelers.

How can you possibly be awake and not be aware of all the hate coming from the left?

Oh, now were expanding. It's not just politicians you won't provide links for. Now we're going to throw Black Lives Matter and Antifa into the mix too?

Protest isn't incivility or hate silly boy.

How about some in context quotes with links? You keep going with your weird Tourette syndrome, but no links.

antifa riots - Google Search
Unite the Right rally - Wikipedia


one example of a few far right wing morons. I gave you thousands of examples of left wing violence, you have one, BFD
No you didn't. You provided examples of people protesting. You've failed miserably in trying to support your claim. There isn't anyone more uncivil than the illegitimate Orange buffoon occupying the oval office.


look idiot, its ok if you don't like trump, I never liked obozo the Kenyan messiah, but I live through his 8 years of trying to destroy this country.

unemployment is at all time lows, the economy is booming, there are more jobs than job seekers, the numbers of welfare and food stamps are coming down (except in California, wonder why). our country is strong militarily, NK has been brought to the table, China has been called out on its unfair trade practices, NATO members are finally paying their fair share.

I don't care if Trump is a brash New Yorker who likes pretty women, he is the best president of my lifetime and I have been here since Truman.
 
back to the OP. Does anyone think that internal corruption to influence an election is not worse than foreigners trying to influence an election? If so, why even have elections? just let the DC elites appoint our leaders. that's the way it works in Russia, China, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, etc. Are we not better than them?

Is a hypothetical thing that did not happen worse than something that actually did happen. Hmmm [emoji848]


Good question, since there was no Russian/Trump collusion (but there was with the Hillary campaign) and the FBI/DOJ corruption has been proven, I have to agree. actual happenings are worse than hypotheticals. thanks for pointing that out.

Mounting evidence is pointing to Americans conspiring with Russia to affect the election outcome. Did you read the latest indictments from Mueller and the NY District Attorney's office? Lots of unnamed Americans in them. Hint, none of them are from the Clinton campaign.


so Mewler now knows that 12 Russians hacked the DNC servers, but he has not looked at the servers because the DNC refuses to release them, so what is his evidence to indict these Russians? without the servers how does he know? just asking

You just keep parroting the illegitimate clowns lies.

What Mueller Knows About the DNC Hack—And Trump Doesn’t
The president’s bizarre obsession with “the DNC server” defies logic or even a basic understanding of what actually happened.

And to what end? What do you think the physical server would show that they don't have? Do you seriously still not believe that Russians stole information from the DNC servers?


then why does the DNC refuse to release them? what incriminating evidence are they hiding? If everyone knows whats on them and they prove Russian hacking, why not make them public?

don't be so fricken naïve, witchey
 
back to the OP. Does anyone think that internal corruption to influence an election is not worse than foreigners trying to influence an election? If so, why even have elections? just let the DC elites appoint our leaders. that's the way it works in Russia, China, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, etc. Are we not better than them?

Is a hypothetical thing that did not happen worse than something that actually did happen. Hmmm [emoji848]


Good question, since there was no Russian/Trump collusion (but there was with the Hillary campaign) and the FBI/DOJ corruption has been proven, I have to agree. actual happenings are worse than hypotheticals. thanks for pointing that out.

Mounting evidence is pointing to Americans conspiring with Russia to affect the election outcome. Did you read the latest indictments from Mueller and the NY District Attorney's office? Lots of unnamed Americans in them. Hint, none of them are from the Clinton campaign.


Heir Mewler will not touch the Clinton campaign, he loves the Clintons. He doesn't care that Russians gave the Clinton foundation 145 million just after she approved the uranium one deal and that Russians paid bill Clinton 450K for a 20 minute speech in Moscow at that same time. he doesn't care that the Clinton campaign paid Russians to create the fake dossier.

this is corruption at its worst, throw in Strzok, Comey, McCabe, and Lynch and you have the makings of a banana republic.

You are seriously lost in conspiracy land.


so Strzok was not trying to manipulate the election? his girlfriend Page says otherwise. what do you know that she doesn't?
 
back to the OP. Does anyone think that internal corruption to influence an election is not worse than foreigners trying to influence an election? If so, why even have elections? just let the DC elites appoint our leaders. that's the way it works in Russia, China, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, etc. Are we not better than them?

Is a hypothetical thing that did not happen worse than something that actually did happen. Hmmm [emoji848]


Good question, since there was no Russian/Trump collusion (but there was with the Hillary campaign) and the FBI/DOJ corruption has been proven, I have to agree. actual happenings are worse than hypotheticals. thanks for pointing that out.

Mounting evidence is pointing to Americans conspiring with Russia to affect the election outcome. Did you read the latest indictments from Mueller and the NY District Attorney's office? Lots of unnamed Americans in them. Hint, none of them are from the Clinton campaign.


Heir Mewler will not touch the Clinton campaign, he loves the Clintons. He doesn't care that Russians gave the Clinton foundation 145 million just after she approved the uranium one deal and that Russians paid bill Clinton 450K for a 20 minute speech in Moscow at that same time. he doesn't care that the Clinton campaign paid Russians to create the fake dossier.

this is corruption at its worst, throw in Strzok, Comey, McCabe, and Lynch and you have the makings of a banana republic.

You are seriously lost in conspiracy land.


your sig cartoon shows your partisan stupidity. you are a waste of my time.
 

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