Which Holocausts Get Taught?

[William Joyce]

Most on the board seem to agree that teaching the "Holocaust" (TM) should be state-mandated. It's just history.

So how do the same people feel about the murder of 7 million Ukranians by the Soviets? Should that be taught?

http://www.ukemonde.com/genocide/margolisholocaust.html

[ame]http://www.amazon.com/Harvest-Sorrow-Soviet-Collectivization-Terror-Famine/dp/0195051807[/ame]

Can't wait to hear the answers!

 

[rightwinger]

Sure ...why not?

We can teach Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot

Anyone you like

 

[Xenophon]

They should teach what the Soviet union was, so many people today have a hardon for communism, they should study its finest example.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Most on the board seem to agree that teaching the "Holocaust" (TM) should be state-mandated. It's just history.

So how do the same people feel about the murder of 7 million Ukranians by the Soviets? Should that be taught?

Seven million died in the 'forgotten' holocaust - Eric Margolis

Amazon.com: The Harvest of Sorrow: Soviet Collectivization and the Terror-Famine (9780195051803): Robert Conquest: Books

Can't wait to hear the answers!

I agree, of course it should be taught. So should the Armenian genocide by the Turks, the genocide of the Hutus in Rwanda, and the near genocide of the American Indian.

And all the other mass murders, past, present and future.

 

[Nevadamedic]

Most on the board seem to agree that teaching the "Holocaust" (TM) should be state-mandated. It's just history.

So how do the same people feel about the murder of 7 million Ukranians by the Soviets? Should that be taught?

Seven million died in the 'forgotten' holocaust - Eric Margolis

Amazon.com: The Harvest of Sorrow: Soviet Collectivization and the Terror-Famine (9780195051803): Robert Conquest: Books

Can't wait to hear the answers!

I agree, of course it should be taught. So should the Armenian genocide by the Turks, the genocide of the Hutus in Rwanda, and the near genocide of the American Indian.

And all the other mass murders, past, present and future.

Including the mass murders done by Saddam Hussein and his people, that should be taught as well, so people can really see in full what we have accomplished in Iraq.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Most on the board seem to agree that teaching the "Holocaust" (TM) should be state-mandated. It's just history.

So how do the same people feel about the murder of 7 million Ukranians by the Soviets? Should that be taught?

Seven million died in the 'forgotten' holocaust - Eric Margolis

Amazon.com: The Harvest of Sorrow: Soviet Collectivization and the Terror-Famine (9780195051803): Robert Conquest: Books

Can't wait to hear the answers!

I agree, of course it should be taught. So should the Armenian genocide by the Turks, the genocide of the Hutus in Rwanda, and the near genocide of the American Indian.

And all the other mass murders, past, present and future.

Including the mass murders done by Saddam Hussein and his people, that should be taught as well, so people can really see in full what we have accomplished in Iraq.

Sure. But lets be honest about it, and teach the number of Iraqi civilians that were killed by American troops as well.

In fact, let's teach our kids honestly about everything.

 

[Nevadamedic]

I agree, of course it should be taught. So should the Armenian genocide by the Turks, the genocide of the Hutus in Rwanda, and the near genocide of the American Indian.

And all the other mass murders, past, present and future.

Including the mass murders done by Saddam Hussein and his people, that should be taught as well, so people can really see in full what we have accomplished in Iraq.

Sure. But lets be honest about it, and teach the number of Iraqi civilians that were killed by American troops as well.

In fact, let's teach our kids honestly about everything.

The number of civilians doesn't even come close to the numbers massacared by Saddam's goons.

But if you want to play that way we can, lets talk about the numbers of innocent civilians who died during WW2, oh wait it was a Democratic President so I guess it doesn't count..........

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Including the mass murders done by Saddam Hussein and his people, that should be taught as well, so people can really see in full what we have accomplished in Iraq.

Sure. But lets be honest about it, and teach the number of Iraqi civilians that were killed by American troops as well.

In fact, let's teach our kids honestly about everything.

The number of civilians doesn't even come close to the numbers massacared by Saddam's goons.

But if you want to play that way we can, lets talk about the numbers of innocent civilians who died during WW2, oh wait it was a Democratic President so I guess it doesn't count..........

You're the only one bringing partisan nonsense into this discussion. Of course we should teach how many civilians were killed during WWII.

 

[Oddball]

They should teach what the Soviet union was, so many people today have a hardon for communism, they should study its finest example.

Starting with the purge pogroms against the Mensheviks, after the Reds won.

Then we could move on to how political dissidents and other "undesirables" were conscripted into the Red Army, to be trotted out in front of the Germans armed with little more than broom handles, as a means to run them out of ammo in places like Stalingrad, Moscow and Kursk.

Moving right along, we could then teach about how nearly no German prisoners ever captured by the Reds made it out of captivity alive. The slave labor gulags, purges of the Ukrainians and the turning of their home into a modern industrial environmental wasteland would be a nice touch.

But then we'd run into that touchy subject of how much a disaster socialism is in practice....And we can't have any of that.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Most on the board seem to agree that teaching the "Holocaust" (TM) should be state-mandated. It's just history.

So how do the same people feel about the murder of 7 million Ukranians by the Soviets? Should that be taught?

Seven million died in the 'forgotten' holocaust - Eric Margolis

Amazon.com: The Harvest of Sorrow: Soviet Collectivization and the Terror-Famine (9780195051803): Robert Conquest: Books

Can't wait to hear the answers!

I agree, of course it should be taught. So should the Armenian genocide by the Turks, the genocide of the Hutus in Rwanda, and the near genocide of the American Indian.

And all the other mass murders, past, present and future.

Until the Liberals perverted American History into Social Studies the murder of American Indians was always taught in the American School system as was the American slave issue. Now only feel good crap is taught with one class on American History in High School.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I agree, of course it should be taught. So should the Armenian genocide by the Turks, the genocide of the Hutus in Rwanda, and the near genocide of the American Indian.

And all the other mass murders, past, present and future.

Including the mass murders done by Saddam Hussein and his people, that should be taught as well, so people can really see in full what we have accomplished in Iraq.

Sure. But lets be honest about it, and teach the number of Iraqi civilians that were killed by American troops as well.

In fact, let's teach our kids honestly about everything.

How many were killed? According to the Iraqi Government no where near the number you liberal retards claim. And while we teach them lets teach them who EXACTLY killed whom. You see American troops killed few, it was Terrorists and fellow Iraqis that killed most of the Iraqi civilians.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Most on the board seem to agree that teaching the "Holocaust" (TM) should be state-mandated. It's just history.

So how do the same people feel about the murder of 7 million Ukranians by the Soviets? Should that be taught?

Seven million died in the 'forgotten' holocaust - Eric Margolis

Amazon.com: The Harvest of Sorrow: Soviet Collectivization and the Terror-Famine (9780195051803): Robert Conquest: Books

Can't wait to hear the answers!

I agree, of course it should be taught. So should the Armenian genocide by the Turks, the genocide of the Hutus in Rwanda, and the near genocide of the American Indian.

And all the other mass murders, past, present and future.

Until the Liberals perverted American History into Social Studies the murder of American Indians was always taught in the American School system as was the American slave issue. Now only feel good crap is taught with one class on American History in High School.

I agree with you on your point. Less so for the "Until the liberals perverted it..." part.
Got any evidence to show what "liberals" perverted our education system?

Or is it just more mindless rhetoric?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Including the mass murders done by Saddam Hussein and his people, that should be taught as well, so people can really see in full what we have accomplished in Iraq.

Sure. But lets be honest about it, and teach the number of Iraqi civilians that were killed by American troops as well.

In fact, let's teach our kids honestly about everything.

How many were killed? According to the Iraqi Government no where near the number you liberal retards claim. And while we teach them lets teach them who EXACTLY killed whom. You see American troops killed few, it was Terrorists and fellow Iraqis that killed most of the Iraqi civilians.

Wow, I honestly thought this would be a non-partisan thread.

But of course not. I'm advocating for telling our students the truth, no more no less. Exactly what have I said in this thread marking me as a "liberal retard"?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I agree, of course it should be taught. So should the Armenian genocide by the Turks, the genocide of the Hutus in Rwanda, and the near genocide of the American Indian.

And all the other mass murders, past, present and future.

Until the Liberals perverted American History into Social Studies the murder of American Indians was always taught in the American School system as was the American slave issue. Now only feel good crap is taught with one class on American History in High School.

I agree with you on your point. Less so for the "Until the liberals perverted it..." part.
Got any evidence to show what "liberals" perverted our education system?

Or is it just more mindless rhetoric?

Ya cause we all know the Conservatives made all the changes over the last 40 years.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Sure. But lets be honest about it, and teach the number of Iraqi civilians that were killed by American troops as well.

In fact, let's teach our kids honestly about everything.

How many were killed? According to the Iraqi Government no where near the number you liberal retards claim. And while we teach them lets teach them who EXACTLY killed whom. You see American troops killed few, it was Terrorists and fellow Iraqis that killed most of the Iraqi civilians.

Wow, I honestly thought this would be a non-partisan thread.

But of course not. I'm advocating for telling our students the truth, no more no less. Exactly what have I said in this thread marking me as a "liberal retard"?

YOU are claiming some huge number of Iraqi civilians were killed ( ie murdered) by American troops. That on its face is a lie and is stock in trade of the left.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

How many were killed? According to the Iraqi Government no where near the number you liberal retards claim. And while we teach them lets teach them who EXACTLY killed whom. You see American troops killed few, it was Terrorists and fellow Iraqis that killed most of the Iraqi civilians.

Wow, I honestly thought this would be a non-partisan thread.

But of course not. I'm advocating for telling our students the truth, no more no less. Exactly what have I said in this thread marking me as a "liberal retard"?

YOU are claiming some huge number of Iraqi civilians were killed ( ie murdered) by American troops. That on its face is a lie and is stock in trade of the left.

Please show me where I claimed that, because I said no such thing. I simply said that whatever the number is, it should be taught. Just like everything else. I am advocating for truth, I am claiming what is or is not truth.

Whatever the truth is (which is NOT the topic of conversation in this thread), I am advocating that it be taught to our children.

You and Nevadamedic are the ones who brought the partisan and personal attacks into the thread.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Wow, I honestly thought this would be a non-partisan thread.

But of course not. I'm advocating for telling our students the truth, no more no less. Exactly what have I said in this thread marking me as a "liberal retard"?

YOU are claiming some huge number of Iraqi civilians were killed ( ie murdered) by American troops. That on its face is a lie and is stock in trade of the left.

Please show me where I claimed that, because I said no such thing.

This thread is on genocide and mass murder right? Reporting of it and teaching it?

post number 6

Sure. But lets be honest about it, and teach the number of Iraqi civilians that were killed by American troops as well.

In fact, let's teach our kids honestly about everything.

That would be your post.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The number of Iraqi civilians killed by American forces is small. We ran one of the cleanest wars ever in regards collateral damage.

After the war and during the supposed occupation the vast majority of deaths were the direct result of terrorist attacks or "insurgent" attacks. Yet you imply and then pretend you did not , that American troops killed them.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

YOU are claiming some huge number of Iraqi civilians were killed ( ie murdered) by American troops. That on its face is a lie and is stock in trade of the left.

Please show me where I claimed that, because I said no such thing.

This thread is on genocide and mass murder right? Reporting of it and teaching it?

post number 6

Sure. But lets be honest about it, and teach the number of Iraqi civilians that were killed by American troops as well.

In fact, let's teach our kids honestly about everything.

That would be your post.

Indeed. Notice the lack of words like "huge numbers" and such. Notice the use of words like "honesty".

All I am saying is we should give our children more credit than we do now, and teach them truthfully - both the good and the bad things that we as a country have done, and the good and bad that every country has done.

But I guess you were just itching for a partisan fight, and read into it what you wanted to see.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Please show me where I claimed that, because I said no such thing.

This thread is on genocide and mass murder right? Reporting of it and teaching it?

post number 6

Sure. But lets be honest about it, and teach the number of Iraqi civilians that were killed by American troops as well.

In fact, let's teach our kids honestly about everything.

That would be your post.

Indeed. Notice the lack of words like "huge numbers" and such. Notice the use of words like "honesty".

All I am saying is we should give our children more credit than we do now, and teach them truthfully - both the good and the bad things that we as a country have done, and the good and bad that every country has done.

But I guess you were just itching for a partisan fight, and read into it what you wanted to see.

No you got caught and are now trying to back pedal. Good luck on that.