Which Holocausts Get Taught?

[midcan5]

Theres only been one true holocaust, and it was against the jews during WW2. All other genocides are called genocides because they dont meet the criteria for the definition of a holocaust.

Holocaust: to consume by fire

The jews were burned in ovens, therefore its called a holocaust. Get it?

Your reply was interesting, I had never heard it used in only that way. Nuclear holocaust was what those of us old enough often wondered about. But a reading of history shows that humans kill humans and what you call it in the end matters nada.

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n.
Great destruction resulting in the extensive loss of life, especially by fire.
Holocaust The genocide of European Jews and others by the Nazis during World War II: "Israel emerged from the Holocaust and is defined in relation to that catastrophe" (Emanuel Litvinoff).
A massive slaughter: "an important document in the so-far sketchy annals of the Cambodian holocaust" (Rod Nordland).
A sacrificial offering that is consumed entirely by flames.

[Middle English, burnt offering, from Old French holocauste, from Latin holocaustum, from Greek holokauston, from neuter of holokaustos, burnt whole : holo-, holo- + kaustos, burnt (from kaiein, to burn).]
holocaustal hol'o·caus'tal or hol'o·caus'tic adj.

USAGE NOTE Holocaust has a secure place in the language when it refers to the massive destruction of humans by other humans. Ninety-nine percent of the Usage Panel accepts the use of holocaust in the phrase nuclear holocaust. Sixty percent of the Panel accepts the sentence As many as two million people may have died in the holocaust that followed the Khmer Rouge takeover in Cambodia. But because of its associations with genocide, people may object to extended applications of holocaust. When the word is used to refer to death brought about by natural causes, the percentage of the Panel accepting drops sharply...."

holocaust: Definition from Answers.com

 

[theDoctorisIn]

You don't get one without the other.

Try being an unwilling participant in socialist regimes and you'll find out how "voluntary" the are, in short order.

I don't think there have ever been any true-blue socialist states. Many have tried, but never reached the mark....

Yeah, right.

No wonder all the socialists mewl that socialism can't be judged as a failure, because nobody has done it "right".

A-fucking-mazing.

The point is, no one ever will do it right. Just like no one will ever do pure capitalism either. Both sides are equally utopian ideas, neither take into account the natural tendency of humans to fuck each other over.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Do you know why our government is as bloated as it is?
If you think it's because of "the socialists", you've been blinded by the right. Our government is as bloated as it is because it didn't take very long before people realized money could buy votes. Our government was horribly corrupt long before Karl Marx had even been born.

Then why can't I choose which Cable provider I want. I only have the choice of one - and that's not because of the government, that's because of all the cable companies joining together to fix their prices.

Absolute free market obsessives are just as pie-in-the-sky idealists as socialists. Both are blind to the actual process.

I hate to tell you this, Einstein, but your lack of cable provider choice IS due to government regulation, in this case likely your local government, which requires cable companies to negotiate with them for the right to provide services there. My area was deregulated a couple of years ago, and choices proliferated like bunnies on aphrodisiacs.

I stand corrected, you are right. But do you know why those "regulations" exist? They were lobbied for, and gotten by Time Warner and Comcast, who used their money to, in effect, create a monopoly for themselves. This isn't about liberal socialists who are regulating cable - its about cable companies fixing the laws to create a monopoly for themselves.

Yes, corporations are DYING to limit their own service areas and ability to profit. You're such a genius to have figured that out.

You are, however, correct that sometimes people use the power of government to circumvent the free market. That does NOT, however, make government a benevolent protector of the consumer and free markets the evil predators. Quite the opposite.