When will Trump be Held Accountable for Molesting 12 Women

[Avatar4321]

38 years later she felt safe? How many marriages? LOL. it never happened. you're proving my position.

Yes, 38 years later she felt safe. Her children were grown and the reporter said, I'm sure, there are others. Time and other victims is what makes this come out, if that is it does at all and it very often doesn't. They fear being rejected and not believed, by people just like you.

What you say is true, but that doesn't mean that you can punish people for just allegations. Unfortunately, there are people in this world who are not above making things up, spreading lies and rumors, as is clearly evidenced even on here on this board. Politics is a disgusting dirty nasty game.

What punishment is he getting? He's not in jail. He's not in a courtroom. He doesn't even have a job. He's just been exposed as the creep so many knew but few said so until now. Now it's a pile-on, which is normal.

You need to have some evidence to put someone in jail, even if you believe the person telling you the story. That is how our justice system operates. Innocent until proven guilty.

That's in a court of law. Moore is not in court, yet.

The rules of the court exist to help determine what the truth is fairly and impartially.

Your mob mentality response is precisely why the rules exist

 

[Meathead]

View attachment 161844 The mathematical likelihood that all of Trump's accusers are lying, as he says, is
.0000000000000000000000000000000001048576%

Seems like beyond a 'reasonable doubt.'

Only three or four of them are doable without great quantities of alcohol, and Trump doesn't drink.

Fail, back to Russia.

Those are their current pictures dopey not how they looked when Trump molested them.
And what the hell does it matter anyway how they look. Is there a beauty quotient in order to be sexually assaulted? You trump whores are beyond sick.

You are obviously used to Democrat women. No wonder.

 

[Doubledareme]

Yes, 38 years later she felt safe. Her children were grown and the reporter said, I'm sure, there are others. Time and other victims is what makes this come out, if that is it does at all and it very often doesn't. They fear being rejected and not believed, by people just like you.

What you say is true, but that doesn't mean that you can punish people for just allegations. Unfortunately, there are people in this world who are not above making things up, spreading lies and rumors, as is clearly evidenced even on here on this board. Politics is a disgusting dirty nasty game.

What punishment is he getting? He's not in jail. He's not in a courtroom. He doesn't even have a job. He's just been exposed as the creep so many knew but few said so until now. Now it's a pile-on, which is normal.

You need to have some evidence to put someone in jail, even if you believe the person telling you the story. That is how our justice system operates. Innocent until proven guilty.

That's in a court of law. Moore is not in court, yet.

The rules of the court exist to help determine what the truth is fairly and impartially.

Your mob mentality response is precisely why the rules exist

The courts aren't much better at the truth than a mob is.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

remember how you all attacked trump for defending moore? who denies the claims? remind me what kind of woman would defend a sleazy? ohh wait Former Saturday Night Live Female Staffers Release a Letter Supporting Al Franken

 

[GHook93]

yup as soon as he won they all disappeared. no more claims just silence pretty telling indication they were all lying.

Yep. I love how people think that women don’t lie about these things. It is more frequent then you would think.

I was a victim of this. I Highschool when I was a teenage. I sweet talked a freshman girl to get her into. I made a ton of promises and didn’t mean any of them. I then dropped her quick shortly thereafter. She wouldn’t leave me alone and shortly after gave her the brutal truth she accused me of forcing her. Luck for me the night she accused me of forcing her I was at a Bulls game with my dad and we had the ticket stubs. The police didn’t pursue charges.

I am not proud of this (I was vicious and rude to her), but it could have easily turned out worse if the assumption that women don’t lie about these things takes trumps innocent until proven guilty.


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[OldLady]

remember how you all attacked trump for defending moore? who denies the claims? remind me what kind of woman would defend a sleazy? ohh wait Former Saturday Night Live Female Staffers Release a Letter Supporting Al Franken

Those women don't have to say Franken didn't do it because Franken already took responsibility. They are just telling people how Franken treated them. There are plenty of folks doing that for Moore, too. How is it sleazy for the SNL team to do the same?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

remember how you all attacked trump for defending moore? who denies the claims? remind me what kind of woman would defend a sleazy? ohh wait Former Saturday Night Live Female Staffers Release a Letter Supporting Al Franken

Those women don't have to say Franken didn't do it because Franken already took responsibility. They are just telling people how Franken treated them. There are plenty of folks doing that for Moore, too. How is it sleazy for the SNL team to do the same?

the LEFT ATTACKED anyone defending moore as you know full well all the while defending their own.

 

[jc456]

38 years later she felt safe? How many marriages? LOL. it never happened. you're proving my position.

Yes, 38 years later she felt safe. Her children were grown and the reporter said, I'm sure, there are others. Time and other victims is what makes this come out, if that is it does at all and it very often doesn't. They fear being rejected and not believed, by people just like you.

What you say is true, but that doesn't mean that you can punish people for just allegations. Unfortunately, there are people in this world who are not above making things up, spreading lies and rumors, as is clearly evidenced even on here on this board. Politics is a disgusting dirty nasty game.

What punishment is he getting? He's not in jail. He's not in a courtroom. He doesn't even have a job. He's just been exposed as the creep so many knew but few said so until now. Now it's a pile-on, which is normal.

You need to have some evidence to put someone in jail, even if you believe the person telling you the story. That is how our justice system operates. Innocent until proven guilty.

That's in a court of law. Moore is not in court, yet.

sure he is, it's called voters, they are his jury. claims made he responded. now for the verdict.

 

[OldLady]

remember how you all attacked trump for defending moore? who denies the claims? remind me what kind of woman would defend a sleazy? ohh wait Former Saturday Night Live Female Staffers Release a Letter Supporting Al Franken

Those women don't have to say Franken didn't do it because Franken already took responsibility. They are just telling people how Franken treated them. There are plenty of folks doing that for Moore, too. How is it sleazy for the SNL team to do the same?

the LEFT ATTACKED anyone defending moore as you know full well all the while defending their own.

I'm not shadow boxing with some "left" or "right" bullshit, Sgt. You got a real point to make about something said here, go for it.

 

[jc456]

38 years later she felt safe? How many marriages? LOL. it never happened. you're proving my position.

Yes, 38 years later she felt safe. Her children were grown and the reporter said, I'm sure, there are others. Time and other victims is what makes this come out, if that is it does at all and it very often doesn't. They fear being rejected and not believed, by people just like you.

What you say is true, but that doesn't mean that you can punish people for just allegations. Unfortunately, there are people in this world who are not above making things up, spreading lies and rumors, as is clearly evidenced even on here on this board. Politics is a disgusting dirty nasty game.

What punishment is he getting? He's not in jail. He's not in a courtroom. He doesn't even have a job. He's just been exposed as the creep so many knew but few said so until now. Now it's a pile-on, which is normal.

she didn't ask for anything.

Why would she?

what was the point then?

 

[jc456]

Natasha Stoynoff
Allegation: While she was interviewing Trump in 2005 for an article for People magazine about the first anniversary of his third marriage, Trump lured her into a room at Mar-a-Lago, forced her against a wall and abruptly kissed her, forcing his tongue into her mouth. He then said they were going to have an affair.

Corroborators:
Marina Grasic, who has known Stoynoff for more than 25 years. She said she got a call from her friend the day after the alleged attack, detailing exactly how Trump pushed Stoynoff against a wall.
Liz McNeil, at the time a reporter for People (she is now an editor). She said that she heard about the incident the day after Stoynoff returned from her assignment. “She was very upset and told me how he shoved her against a wall,” she said.
Mary Green, another People reporter (now editor) who had just returned to New York. “In an early conversation we had in her office, she told me about what happened with Donald Trump,” Green said. “She was shaky, sitting at her desk, relaying that, ‘He took me to this other room, and when we stepped inside, he pushed me against a wall and stuck his tongue down my throat. Melania was upstairs and could have walked in at any time.’ ”
Liza Hamm, part of a “tight-knit’ group of friends. “Natasha has always been a vivacious person who wants to believe in the best of people, and this experience definitely messed with that outlook,” she said.
Paul McLaughlin, Stoynoff’s former journalism professor. He said Stoynoff called him at the time of the alleged incident seeking advice on how to handle it: “She didn’t know what to do, she was very conflicted, she was angry, she was really confused about how to deal with this.” After a discussion, he said, Stoynoff decided it would be best if she kept the incident to herself.

Response: Anthony Senecal, Trump’s former butler, denied the incident: “No, that never happened. Come on, that’s just bull crap.” Trump said: “Why didn’t she do this 12 years ago? She’s a liar. … It never happened. It’s a lie.”



Rachel Crooks
Allegation: Trump in 2005 kissed her directly on the lips after she introduced herself and said she was a receptionist who worked for a company that did business with Trump.

Corroborators:
Brianne Webb, her sister. She said Crooks called her about the incident as soon as she returned to her desk. “Being from a town of 1,600 people, being naive, I was like, ‘Are you sure he didn’t just miss trying to kiss you on the cheek?’ She said, ‘No, he kissed me on the mouth.’ I was like, ‘That is not normal.’ ”
Clint Hackenburg, her boyfriend at the time. After he asked her that evening how her day had gone, “she paused for a second, and then started hysterically crying.”

Response: Shouting at the New York Times reporter who called for comment, Trump said, “None of this ever took place.” He then told the reporter, “You are a disgusting human being.”



Cathy Heller
Allegation: While having Mother’s Day brunch at Mar-a-Lago in 1997 or 1998, her mother-in-law introduced her to Trump. She extended her hand to greet him and he grabbed her and kissed her on the mouth. She did turn her head slightly and so he wasn’t able to “get my whole mouth.”

Corroborators:
Lloyd Heller, her husband. He said that she immediately told him. He said he told her that “you should have punched him” and he remembers being “puzzled” by why Trump would do something like that in a public space.
A relative who was there, but wanted to stay unnamed. This person said Heller was immediately shocked and asked whether he or she had seen what happened. The two then talked about the incident asking, “Who does he think he is?”

Response: Trump campaign spokesman Jason Miller told People Magazine: “There is no way that something like this would have happened in a public place on Mother’s Day at Mr. Trump’s resort.”



Kristin Anderson

Allegation: While she was at a Manhattan nightclub in the early 1990s, Trump slid his fingers under her miniskirt, moved up her inner thigh and touched her vagina through her underwear.

Corroborators:
Kelly Stedman, a friend. She said she was told about the incident at a women’s brunch a few days later. The women found themselves “laughing at how pathetic it was” on Trump’s part.
Brad Trent, a New York photographer. He says he heard the story from Anderson at a dinner in 2007. “It was just girls saying stories about how they got hit on by creepy old guys,” Trent said of the conversation around the table.

Response: The Trump campaign, in an emailed statement, said Anderson had fabricated the story: “Mr. Trump strongly denies this phony allegation by someone looking to get some free publicity. It is totally ridiculous.”



Summer Zervos

Allegation: Trump kissed Zervos on the lips when he met her in his New York office, which upset Zervos, who had been a contestant on Season 5 of Trump’s “The Apprentice.” She then met Trump at the Beverly Hills Hotel in 2007 for what she thought would be dinner; instead, she was escorted to his private bungalow. “I stood up and he came to me and started kissing me open-mouthed as he was pulling me toward him,” she said. “He then grabbed my shoulder and started kissing me again very aggressively and placed his hand on my breast.” He kept pursuing her, she said, at one point “thrusting his genitals” against her as he tried to kiss her. She said she again rebuffed him.

Corroborator:
Ann Russo, friend: She said that Zervos told her in 2010 that Trump had been “verbally, physically, and sexually aggressive with her” but that she had rebuffed his advances. “It was apparent she was conflicted with what Mr. Trump had done to her,” she said, adding that Zervos was torn between her admiration for Trump and Trump’s behavior.

(In her lawsuit against Trump, Zervos says that in 2007 she “spoke to a friend and her parents about [the initial kiss], all of whom concluded that this must just be the way that Mr. Trump greeted people.” She then told her father about the hotel incident, the lawsuit says.)

Response: Trump issued a statement by John Barry, a cousin of Zervos’s: “I think Summer wishes she could still be on reality TV, and in an effort to get that back she’s saying all of these negative things about Mr. Trump. That’s not how she talked about him before. I can only imagine that Summer’s actions today are nothing more than an attempt to regain the spotlight at Mr. Trump’s expense, and I don’t think it reflects well.”




Mindy McGillivray

Allegation: McGillivray said she was groped by Trump at Mar-a-Lago in 2003, when she was 23, at a photo shoot during a concert by Ray Charles. “All of a sudden I felt a grab, a little nudge. I think it’s Ken’s camera bag, that was my first instinct. I turn around and there’s Donald. He sort of looked away quickly. I quickly turned back, facing Ray Charles, and I’m stunned.’’ She told the Palm Beach Post she was certain it was not an accident. “This was a pretty good nudge. More of a grab,’’ she said. “It was pretty close to the center of my butt. I was startled. I jumped.’’

Corroborator:
Ken Davidoff, photographer: He vividly remembers when McGillivray pulled him aside moments after the alleged incident and told him, “Donald just grabbed my ass!’’ He did not witness the incident himself.



Jill Harth

Allegation: In the early 1990s, Jill Harth and her boyfriend at the time, George Houraney, worked with Trump on a beauty pageant in Atlantic City, and later accused Trump of inappropriate behavior toward Harth during their business dealings. She said that Trump pursued her and groped her; she alleged attempted rape in a sexual harassment suit that was withdrawn as a condition for settling a contract dispute. (We are including her account here because she gave interviews making these charges even after the lawsuit was withdrawn.) Trump had “his hands all over me,” Harth told the New York Times. “He was trying to kiss me. I was freaking out.”

Corroborator:
George Houraney, her boyfriend and later husband. The two are divorced but he confirmed her account in an interview with Nicholas Kristof: “Houraney and Harth haven’t spoken in years, but they offered almost identical accounts when I interviewed them separately, and their stories match Harth’s deposition and her sexual harassment lawsuit from the time.”

Response: Trump said it was Harth who had pursued him, and his office shared email messages in which Harth thanked Trump for helping her personally and professionally. The campaign said she was a “pawn” in a lawsuit created by her ex-husband.



Jessica Leeds

Allegation: Trump attacked her while seated next to her on an airline flight. More than three decades ago, when she was a traveling business executive at a paper company, Leeds told the New York Times in 2016, she sat beside Trump in the first-class cabin of a flight to New York. They had never met before. About 45 minutes after takeoff, Trump lifted the armrest and began to touch her. Trump grabbed her breasts and tried to put his hand up her skirt. “He was like an octopus,” Leeds said. “His hands were everywhere.” She fled to the back of the plane. “It was an assault,” she said.

Corroborator: Leeds told the story to at least four people close to her, who also spoke with the New York Times. But most appear to have heard about it more recently. Linda Ross, a neighbor and friend, heard about it six months before Leeds went public, for instance.

Reaction: The Trump campaign offered the perspective of a British man who claimed to have sat near the two on the plane and three decades later remembered the incident in detail. “She was the one being flirtatious,” he said.



Other accusers


Temple Taggart McDowell: The 1997 Miss Utah USA said Trump kissed her directly on the lips, at a time he was married to Marla Maples and McDowell was 21. Later, when she visited Trump Tower to discuss a modeling contract, she says Trump again embraced and kissed her on the lips, this time in front of two pageant chaperones and a receptionist. The New York encounter made one of the chaperones so “uncomfortable” that she advised McDowell not to go into any rooms with Trump alone, McDowell told NBC News.


Karena Virginia: A yoga instructor said Trump harassed and groped her during a chance encounter at the U.S. Open in 1998. Virginia said Trump, a total stranger, then grabbed her arm and touched her breast. “I was in shock,” Virginia said. “I flinched. He said, ‘Don’t you know who I am?’ I felt intimidated and powerless. I said ‘yes.’”



Jennifer Murphy: A former Apprentice contestant said Trump in 2004 kissed her on the lips. “He walked me to the elevator, and I said goodbye. I was thinking ‘oh, he’s going to hug me,’ but … he pulled my face in and gave me a smooch.”



Ninni Laaksonen: A former Miss Finland said Trump in 2006 grabbed her bottom shortly after he had married Melania. “Trump stood right next to me and suddenly he squeezed my butt. He really grabbed my butt.”



Jessica Drake: A porn star and sex educator said that during a 2006 golf tournament in Lake Tahoe, Trump “grabbed” her and two other unnamed women tightly and kissed them on the lips “without asking permission.” He then offered Drake $10,000 and the use of his private plane, she said, if she would agree to come back to his room and accompany him to a party.

Analysis | President Trump and accusations of sexual misconduct: The complete list

The funny thing is they are saying he did exactly the same things that he says he does and could get away with. Even Trump managed to be honest for once.

why don't they slap him then? if he did it, why? it is a criminal offense. why not bring attention to it at the time of the supposed incident. that is what you fail to ever say.

I notice you never ask that question about women who accuse Democrats. "Why did she wait so long?"

I ask the very same question. why didn't the accuser of al franken punch him? i'm curious. I would have bit his fking tongue. I've stated that over and over that if you don't report it at the time, you've lost all rights to do so in the future. any woman. do a search on my posts.

I’m sure you’ll get another chance to bite the tongue of the next man that kisses you.

ahhh look at you!

 

[Doubledareme]

Yes, 38 years later she felt safe. Her children were grown and the reporter said, I'm sure, there are others. Time and other victims is what makes this come out, if that is it does at all and it very often doesn't. They fear being rejected and not believed, by people just like you.

What you say is true, but that doesn't mean that you can punish people for just allegations. Unfortunately, there are people in this world who are not above making things up, spreading lies and rumors, as is clearly evidenced even on here on this board. Politics is a disgusting dirty nasty game.

What punishment is he getting? He's not in jail. He's not in a courtroom. He doesn't even have a job. He's just been exposed as the creep so many knew but few said so until now. Now it's a pile-on, which is normal.

she didn't ask for anything.

Why would she?

what was the point then?

To finally let the truth out.

 

[jc456]

What you say is true, but that doesn't mean that you can punish people for just allegations. Unfortunately, there are people in this world who are not above making things up, spreading lies and rumors, as is clearly evidenced even on here on this board. Politics is a disgusting dirty nasty game.

What punishment is he getting? He's not in jail. He's not in a courtroom. He doesn't even have a job. He's just been exposed as the creep so many knew but few said so until now. Now it's a pile-on, which is normal.

she didn't ask for anything.

Why would she?

what was the point then?

To finally let the truth out.

so that was supposedly done. so we wait for the verdict right? again, she didn't ask for him to step down.

 

[Avatar4321]

sure you are, I don't need evidence I can just merely state it loudly. you all claimed it was so.

You can read all about it for yourself.

why rape victims don't tell - Google Search

that's some psycho babble, don't need it. the fact remains, 38 years is too long if it actually happened. and rape victims the longer the wait, the less they are believed. and stop making up more stuff.

None so blind as those who refuse to see. Case closed, like your tiny mind.

still you're just making stuff up as you go. you got fking nothing. she added risk to her coming out by bringing in children before she reported it. her children are now vulnerable as are anyone she is attached to. that doesn't jive with staying quiet to save from repercussions.

Just admit the obvious to the rest of us, you don't understand, you don't want to understand, and you don't want to believe that men like Moore would do such things but they do. That it can take decades to come out is - normal.

What i understand is there are two claims against him acting inappropriately towards under age girls and neither is credible

 

[Reasonable]

View attachment 161844 The mathematical likelihood that all of Trump's accusers are lying, as he says, is
.0000000000000000000000000000000001048576%

Seems like beyond a 'reasonable doubt.'

It is not hard to find a reporter that lies about Trump, I doubt it is hard to find a women who lies also. If there is proof then present it, if not take stick it up your self-righteous ass!


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Still believing a pathological liar. How sweet. Still dismissing the 17 victims too..
Woman hating seems to be a popular trump whore past time.
I see you didn’t pay attention to any of the interviews with these women when they explained why they came forward when they did.
Trump sheep are clueless and totally uninformed.

 

[Reasonable]

You can read all about it for yourself.

why rape victims don't tell - Google Search

that's some psycho babble, don't need it. the fact remains, 38 years is too long if it actually happened. and rape victims the longer the wait, the less they are believed. and stop making up more stuff.

None so blind as those who refuse to see. Case closed, like your tiny mind.

still you're just making stuff up as you go. you got fking nothing. she added risk to her coming out by bringing in children before she reported it. her children are now vulnerable as are anyone she is attached to. that doesn't jive with staying quiet to save from repercussions.

Just admit the obvious to the rest of us, you don't understand, you don't want to understand, and you don't want to believe that men like Moore would do such things but they do. That it can take decades to come out is - normal.

What i understand is there are two claims against him acting inappropriately towards under age girls and neither is credible

Try 17. And not credable to whom? You?
Lmao
You’d sell your first born into slavery for the pussygrabber and you know it.

 

[jc456]

View attachment 161844 The mathematical likelihood that all of Trump's accusers are lying, as he says, is
.0000000000000000000000000000000001048576%

Seems like beyond a 'reasonable doubt.'

It is not hard to find a reporter that lies about Trump, I doubt it is hard to find a women who lies also. If there is proof then present it, if not take stick it up your self-righteous ass!


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Still believing a pathological liar. How sweet. Still dismissing the 17 victims too..
Woman hating seems to be a popular trump whore past time.
I see you didn’t pay attention to any of the interviews with these women when they explained why they came forward when they did.
Trump sheep are clueless and totally uninformed.

yes, we ignore them all. what is it you can do about it? posts on a message board ain't doing a lot.

 

[jc456]

that's some psycho babble, don't need it. the fact remains, 38 years is too long if it actually happened. and rape victims the longer the wait, the less they are believed. and stop making up more stuff.

None so blind as those who refuse to see. Case closed, like your tiny mind.

still you're just making stuff up as you go. you got fking nothing. she added risk to her coming out by bringing in children before she reported it. her children are now vulnerable as are anyone she is attached to. that doesn't jive with staying quiet to save from repercussions.

Just admit the obvious to the rest of us, you don't understand, you don't want to understand, and you don't want to believe that men like Moore would do such things but they do. That it can take decades to come out is - normal.

What i understand is there are two claims against him acting inappropriately towards under age girls and neither is credible

Try 17. And not credable to whom? You?
Lmao
You’d sell your first born into slavery for the pussygrabber and you know it.

credible to you? who gives a shit.? see how that can work?

 

[Reasonable]

Natasha Stoynoff
Allegation: While she was interviewing Trump in 2005 for an article for People magazine about the first anniversary of his third marriage, Trump lured her into a room at Mar-a-Lago, forced her against a wall and abruptly kissed her, forcing his tongue into her mouth. He then said they were going to have an affair.

Corroborators:
Marina Grasic, who has known Stoynoff for more than 25 years. She said she got a call from her friend the day after the alleged attack, detailing exactly how Trump pushed Stoynoff against a wall.
Liz McNeil, at the time a reporter for People (she is now an editor). She said that she heard about the incident the day after Stoynoff returned from her assignment. “She was very upset and told me how he shoved her against a wall,” she said.
Mary Green, another People reporter (now editor) who had just returned to New York. “In an early conversation we had in her office, she told me about what happened with Donald Trump,” Green said. “She was shaky, sitting at her desk, relaying that, ‘He took me to this other room, and when we stepped inside, he pushed me against a wall and stuck his tongue down my throat. Melania was upstairs and could have walked in at any time.’ ”
Liza Hamm, part of a “tight-knit’ group of friends. “Natasha has always been a vivacious person who wants to believe in the best of people, and this experience definitely messed with that outlook,” she said.
Paul McLaughlin, Stoynoff’s former journalism professor. He said Stoynoff called him at the time of the alleged incident seeking advice on how to handle it: “She didn’t know what to do, she was very conflicted, she was angry, she was really confused about how to deal with this.” After a discussion, he said, Stoynoff decided it would be best if she kept the incident to herself.

Response: Anthony Senecal, Trump’s former butler, denied the incident: “No, that never happened. Come on, that’s just bull crap.” Trump said: “Why didn’t she do this 12 years ago? She’s a liar. … It never happened. It’s a lie.”



Rachel Crooks
Allegation: Trump in 2005 kissed her directly on the lips after she introduced herself and said she was a receptionist who worked for a company that did business with Trump.

Corroborators:
Brianne Webb, her sister. She said Crooks called her about the incident as soon as she returned to her desk. “Being from a town of 1,600 people, being naive, I was like, ‘Are you sure he didn’t just miss trying to kiss you on the cheek?’ She said, ‘No, he kissed me on the mouth.’ I was like, ‘That is not normal.’ ”
Clint Hackenburg, her boyfriend at the time. After he asked her that evening how her day had gone, “she paused for a second, and then started hysterically crying.”

Response: Shouting at the New York Times reporter who called for comment, Trump said, “None of this ever took place.” He then told the reporter, “You are a disgusting human being.”



Cathy Heller
Allegation: While having Mother’s Day brunch at Mar-a-Lago in 1997 or 1998, her mother-in-law introduced her to Trump. She extended her hand to greet him and he grabbed her and kissed her on the mouth. She did turn her head slightly and so he wasn’t able to “get my whole mouth.”

Corroborators:
Lloyd Heller, her husband. He said that she immediately told him. He said he told her that “you should have punched him” and he remembers being “puzzled” by why Trump would do something like that in a public space.
A relative who was there, but wanted to stay unnamed. This person said Heller was immediately shocked and asked whether he or she had seen what happened. The two then talked about the incident asking, “Who does he think he is?”

Response: Trump campaign spokesman Jason Miller told People Magazine: “There is no way that something like this would have happened in a public place on Mother’s Day at Mr. Trump’s resort.”



Kristin Anderson

Allegation: While she was at a Manhattan nightclub in the early 1990s, Trump slid his fingers under her miniskirt, moved up her inner thigh and touched her vagina through her underwear.

Corroborators:
Kelly Stedman, a friend. She said she was told about the incident at a women’s brunch a few days later. The women found themselves “laughing at how pathetic it was” on Trump’s part.
Brad Trent, a New York photographer. He says he heard the story from Anderson at a dinner in 2007. “It was just girls saying stories about how they got hit on by creepy old guys,” Trent said of the conversation around the table.

Response: The Trump campaign, in an emailed statement, said Anderson had fabricated the story: “Mr. Trump strongly denies this phony allegation by someone looking to get some free publicity. It is totally ridiculous.”



Summer Zervos

Allegation: Trump kissed Zervos on the lips when he met her in his New York office, which upset Zervos, who had been a contestant on Season 5 of Trump’s “The Apprentice.” She then met Trump at the Beverly Hills Hotel in 2007 for what she thought would be dinner; instead, she was escorted to his private bungalow. “I stood up and he came to me and started kissing me open-mouthed as he was pulling me toward him,” she said. “He then grabbed my shoulder and started kissing me again very aggressively and placed his hand on my breast.” He kept pursuing her, she said, at one point “thrusting his genitals” against her as he tried to kiss her. She said she again rebuffed him.

Corroborator:
Ann Russo, friend: She said that Zervos told her in 2010 that Trump had been “verbally, physically, and sexually aggressive with her” but that she had rebuffed his advances. “It was apparent she was conflicted with what Mr. Trump had done to her,” she said, adding that Zervos was torn between her admiration for Trump and Trump’s behavior.

(In her lawsuit against Trump, Zervos says that in 2007 she “spoke to a friend and her parents about [the initial kiss], all of whom concluded that this must just be the way that Mr. Trump greeted people.” She then told her father about the hotel incident, the lawsuit says.)

Response: Trump issued a statement by John Barry, a cousin of Zervos’s: “I think Summer wishes she could still be on reality TV, and in an effort to get that back she’s saying all of these negative things about Mr. Trump. That’s not how she talked about him before. I can only imagine that Summer’s actions today are nothing more than an attempt to regain the spotlight at Mr. Trump’s expense, and I don’t think it reflects well.”




Mindy McGillivray

Allegation: McGillivray said she was groped by Trump at Mar-a-Lago in 2003, when she was 23, at a photo shoot during a concert by Ray Charles. “All of a sudden I felt a grab, a little nudge. I think it’s Ken’s camera bag, that was my first instinct. I turn around and there’s Donald. He sort of looked away quickly. I quickly turned back, facing Ray Charles, and I’m stunned.’’ She told the Palm Beach Post she was certain it was not an accident. “This was a pretty good nudge. More of a grab,’’ she said. “It was pretty close to the center of my butt. I was startled. I jumped.’’

Corroborator:
Ken Davidoff, photographer: He vividly remembers when McGillivray pulled him aside moments after the alleged incident and told him, “Donald just grabbed my ass!’’ He did not witness the incident himself.



Jill Harth

Allegation: In the early 1990s, Jill Harth and her boyfriend at the time, George Houraney, worked with Trump on a beauty pageant in Atlantic City, and later accused Trump of inappropriate behavior toward Harth during their business dealings. She said that Trump pursued her and groped her; she alleged attempted rape in a sexual harassment suit that was withdrawn as a condition for settling a contract dispute. (We are including her account here because she gave interviews making these charges even after the lawsuit was withdrawn.) Trump had “his hands all over me,” Harth told the New York Times. “He was trying to kiss me. I was freaking out.”

Corroborator:
George Houraney, her boyfriend and later husband. The two are divorced but he confirmed her account in an interview with Nicholas Kristof: “Houraney and Harth haven’t spoken in years, but they offered almost identical accounts when I interviewed them separately, and their stories match Harth’s deposition and her sexual harassment lawsuit from the time.”

Response: Trump said it was Harth who had pursued him, and his office shared email messages in which Harth thanked Trump for helping her personally and professionally. The campaign said she was a “pawn” in a lawsuit created by her ex-husband.



Jessica Leeds

Allegation: Trump attacked her while seated next to her on an airline flight. More than three decades ago, when she was a traveling business executive at a paper company, Leeds told the New York Times in 2016, she sat beside Trump in the first-class cabin of a flight to New York. They had never met before. About 45 minutes after takeoff, Trump lifted the armrest and began to touch her. Trump grabbed her breasts and tried to put his hand up her skirt. “He was like an octopus,” Leeds said. “His hands were everywhere.” She fled to the back of the plane. “It was an assault,” she said.

Corroborator: Leeds told the story to at least four people close to her, who also spoke with the New York Times. But most appear to have heard about it more recently. Linda Ross, a neighbor and friend, heard about it six months before Leeds went public, for instance.

Reaction: The Trump campaign offered the perspective of a British man who claimed to have sat near the two on the plane and three decades later remembered the incident in detail. “She was the one being flirtatious,” he said.



Other accusers


Temple Taggart McDowell: The 1997 Miss Utah USA said Trump kissed her directly on the lips, at a time he was married to Marla Maples and McDowell was 21. Later, when she visited Trump Tower to discuss a modeling contract, she says Trump again embraced and kissed her on the lips, this time in front of two pageant chaperones and a receptionist. The New York encounter made one of the chaperones so “uncomfortable” that she advised McDowell not to go into any rooms with Trump alone, McDowell told NBC News.


Karena Virginia: A yoga instructor said Trump harassed and groped her during a chance encounter at the U.S. Open in 1998. Virginia said Trump, a total stranger, then grabbed her arm and touched her breast. “I was in shock,” Virginia said. “I flinched. He said, ‘Don’t you know who I am?’ I felt intimidated and powerless. I said ‘yes.’”



Jennifer Murphy: A former Apprentice contestant said Trump in 2004 kissed her on the lips. “He walked me to the elevator, and I said goodbye. I was thinking ‘oh, he’s going to hug me,’ but … he pulled my face in and gave me a smooch.”



Ninni Laaksonen: A former Miss Finland said Trump in 2006 grabbed her bottom shortly after he had married Melania. “Trump stood right next to me and suddenly he squeezed my butt. He really grabbed my butt.”



Jessica Drake: A porn star and sex educator said that during a 2006 golf tournament in Lake Tahoe, Trump “grabbed” her and two other unnamed women tightly and kissed them on the lips “without asking permission.” He then offered Drake $10,000 and the use of his private plane, she said, if she would agree to come back to his room and accompany him to a party.

Analysis | President Trump and accusations of sexual misconduct: The complete list

The funny thing is they are saying he did exactly the same things that he says he does and could get away with. Even Trump managed to be honest for once.

why don't they slap him then? if he did it, why? it is a criminal offense. why not bring attention to it at the time of the supposed incident. that is what you fail to ever say.

I notice you never ask that question about women who accuse Democrats. "Why did she wait so long?"

clintons accusers did not wait.

There you go. When discussing Trump’s perversions always bring up a Clinton just like you’ve been trained to do. You’re a trained seal.

 

[jc456]

Natasha Stoynoff
Allegation: While she was interviewing Trump in 2005 for an article for People magazine about the first anniversary of his third marriage, Trump lured her into a room at Mar-a-Lago, forced her against a wall and abruptly kissed her, forcing his tongue into her mouth. He then said they were going to have an affair.

Corroborators:
Marina Grasic, who has known Stoynoff for more than 25 years. She said she got a call from her friend the day after the alleged attack, detailing exactly how Trump pushed Stoynoff against a wall.
Liz McNeil, at the time a reporter for People (she is now an editor). She said that she heard about the incident the day after Stoynoff returned from her assignment. “She was very upset and told me how he shoved her against a wall,” she said.
Mary Green, another People reporter (now editor) who had just returned to New York. “In an early conversation we had in her office, she told me about what happened with Donald Trump,” Green said. “She was shaky, sitting at her desk, relaying that, ‘He took me to this other room, and when we stepped inside, he pushed me against a wall and stuck his tongue down my throat. Melania was upstairs and could have walked in at any time.’ ”
Liza Hamm, part of a “tight-knit’ group of friends. “Natasha has always been a vivacious person who wants to believe in the best of people, and this experience definitely messed with that outlook,” she said.
Paul McLaughlin, Stoynoff’s former journalism professor. He said Stoynoff called him at the time of the alleged incident seeking advice on how to handle it: “She didn’t know what to do, she was very conflicted, she was angry, she was really confused about how to deal with this.” After a discussion, he said, Stoynoff decided it would be best if she kept the incident to herself.

Response: Anthony Senecal, Trump’s former butler, denied the incident: “No, that never happened. Come on, that’s just bull crap.” Trump said: “Why didn’t she do this 12 years ago? She’s a liar. … It never happened. It’s a lie.”



Rachel Crooks
Allegation: Trump in 2005 kissed her directly on the lips after she introduced herself and said she was a receptionist who worked for a company that did business with Trump.

Corroborators:
Brianne Webb, her sister. She said Crooks called her about the incident as soon as she returned to her desk. “Being from a town of 1,600 people, being naive, I was like, ‘Are you sure he didn’t just miss trying to kiss you on the cheek?’ She said, ‘No, he kissed me on the mouth.’ I was like, ‘That is not normal.’ ”
Clint Hackenburg, her boyfriend at the time. After he asked her that evening how her day had gone, “she paused for a second, and then started hysterically crying.”

Response: Shouting at the New York Times reporter who called for comment, Trump said, “None of this ever took place.” He then told the reporter, “You are a disgusting human being.”



Cathy Heller
Allegation: While having Mother’s Day brunch at Mar-a-Lago in 1997 or 1998, her mother-in-law introduced her to Trump. She extended her hand to greet him and he grabbed her and kissed her on the mouth. She did turn her head slightly and so he wasn’t able to “get my whole mouth.”

Corroborators:
Lloyd Heller, her husband. He said that she immediately told him. He said he told her that “you should have punched him” and he remembers being “puzzled” by why Trump would do something like that in a public space.
A relative who was there, but wanted to stay unnamed. This person said Heller was immediately shocked and asked whether he or she had seen what happened. The two then talked about the incident asking, “Who does he think he is?”

Response: Trump campaign spokesman Jason Miller told People Magazine: “There is no way that something like this would have happened in a public place on Mother’s Day at Mr. Trump’s resort.”



Kristin Anderson

Allegation: While she was at a Manhattan nightclub in the early 1990s, Trump slid his fingers under her miniskirt, moved up her inner thigh and touched her vagina through her underwear.

Corroborators:
Kelly Stedman, a friend. She said she was told about the incident at a women’s brunch a few days later. The women found themselves “laughing at how pathetic it was” on Trump’s part.
Brad Trent, a New York photographer. He says he heard the story from Anderson at a dinner in 2007. “It was just girls saying stories about how they got hit on by creepy old guys,” Trent said of the conversation around the table.

Response: The Trump campaign, in an emailed statement, said Anderson had fabricated the story: “Mr. Trump strongly denies this phony allegation by someone looking to get some free publicity. It is totally ridiculous.”



Summer Zervos

Allegation: Trump kissed Zervos on the lips when he met her in his New York office, which upset Zervos, who had been a contestant on Season 5 of Trump’s “The Apprentice.” She then met Trump at the Beverly Hills Hotel in 2007 for what she thought would be dinner; instead, she was escorted to his private bungalow. “I stood up and he came to me and started kissing me open-mouthed as he was pulling me toward him,” she said. “He then grabbed my shoulder and started kissing me again very aggressively and placed his hand on my breast.” He kept pursuing her, she said, at one point “thrusting his genitals” against her as he tried to kiss her. She said she again rebuffed him.

Corroborator:
Ann Russo, friend: She said that Zervos told her in 2010 that Trump had been “verbally, physically, and sexually aggressive with her” but that she had rebuffed his advances. “It was apparent she was conflicted with what Mr. Trump had done to her,” she said, adding that Zervos was torn between her admiration for Trump and Trump’s behavior.

(In her lawsuit against Trump, Zervos says that in 2007 she “spoke to a friend and her parents about [the initial kiss], all of whom concluded that this must just be the way that Mr. Trump greeted people.” She then told her father about the hotel incident, the lawsuit says.)

Response: Trump issued a statement by John Barry, a cousin of Zervos’s: “I think Summer wishes she could still be on reality TV, and in an effort to get that back she’s saying all of these negative things about Mr. Trump. That’s not how she talked about him before. I can only imagine that Summer’s actions today are nothing more than an attempt to regain the spotlight at Mr. Trump’s expense, and I don’t think it reflects well.”




Mindy McGillivray

Allegation: McGillivray said she was groped by Trump at Mar-a-Lago in 2003, when she was 23, at a photo shoot during a concert by Ray Charles. “All of a sudden I felt a grab, a little nudge. I think it’s Ken’s camera bag, that was my first instinct. I turn around and there’s Donald. He sort of looked away quickly. I quickly turned back, facing Ray Charles, and I’m stunned.’’ She told the Palm Beach Post she was certain it was not an accident. “This was a pretty good nudge. More of a grab,’’ she said. “It was pretty close to the center of my butt. I was startled. I jumped.’’

Corroborator:
Ken Davidoff, photographer: He vividly remembers when McGillivray pulled him aside moments after the alleged incident and told him, “Donald just grabbed my ass!’’ He did not witness the incident himself.



Jill Harth

Allegation: In the early 1990s, Jill Harth and her boyfriend at the time, George Houraney, worked with Trump on a beauty pageant in Atlantic City, and later accused Trump of inappropriate behavior toward Harth during their business dealings. She said that Trump pursued her and groped her; she alleged attempted rape in a sexual harassment suit that was withdrawn as a condition for settling a contract dispute. (We are including her account here because she gave interviews making these charges even after the lawsuit was withdrawn.) Trump had “his hands all over me,” Harth told the New York Times. “He was trying to kiss me. I was freaking out.”

Corroborator:
George Houraney, her boyfriend and later husband. The two are divorced but he confirmed her account in an interview with Nicholas Kristof: “Houraney and Harth haven’t spoken in years, but they offered almost identical accounts when I interviewed them separately, and their stories match Harth’s deposition and her sexual harassment lawsuit from the time.”

Response: Trump said it was Harth who had pursued him, and his office shared email messages in which Harth thanked Trump for helping her personally and professionally. The campaign said she was a “pawn” in a lawsuit created by her ex-husband.



Jessica Leeds

Allegation: Trump attacked her while seated next to her on an airline flight. More than three decades ago, when she was a traveling business executive at a paper company, Leeds told the New York Times in 2016, she sat beside Trump in the first-class cabin of a flight to New York. They had never met before. About 45 minutes after takeoff, Trump lifted the armrest and began to touch her. Trump grabbed her breasts and tried to put his hand up her skirt. “He was like an octopus,” Leeds said. “His hands were everywhere.” She fled to the back of the plane. “It was an assault,” she said.

Corroborator: Leeds told the story to at least four people close to her, who also spoke with the New York Times. But most appear to have heard about it more recently. Linda Ross, a neighbor and friend, heard about it six months before Leeds went public, for instance.

Reaction: The Trump campaign offered the perspective of a British man who claimed to have sat near the two on the plane and three decades later remembered the incident in detail. “She was the one being flirtatious,” he said.



Other accusers


Temple Taggart McDowell: The 1997 Miss Utah USA said Trump kissed her directly on the lips, at a time he was married to Marla Maples and McDowell was 21. Later, when she visited Trump Tower to discuss a modeling contract, she says Trump again embraced and kissed her on the lips, this time in front of two pageant chaperones and a receptionist. The New York encounter made one of the chaperones so “uncomfortable” that she advised McDowell not to go into any rooms with Trump alone, McDowell told NBC News.


Karena Virginia: A yoga instructor said Trump harassed and groped her during a chance encounter at the U.S. Open in 1998. Virginia said Trump, a total stranger, then grabbed her arm and touched her breast. “I was in shock,” Virginia said. “I flinched. He said, ‘Don’t you know who I am?’ I felt intimidated and powerless. I said ‘yes.’”



Jennifer Murphy: A former Apprentice contestant said Trump in 2004 kissed her on the lips. “He walked me to the elevator, and I said goodbye. I was thinking ‘oh, he’s going to hug me,’ but … he pulled my face in and gave me a smooch.”



Ninni Laaksonen: A former Miss Finland said Trump in 2006 grabbed her bottom shortly after he had married Melania. “Trump stood right next to me and suddenly he squeezed my butt. He really grabbed my butt.”



Jessica Drake: A porn star and sex educator said that during a 2006 golf tournament in Lake Tahoe, Trump “grabbed” her and two other unnamed women tightly and kissed them on the lips “without asking permission.” He then offered Drake $10,000 and the use of his private plane, she said, if she would agree to come back to his room and accompany him to a party.

Analysis | President Trump and accusations of sexual misconduct: The complete list

The funny thing is they are saying he did exactly the same things that he says he does and could get away with. Even Trump managed to be honest for once.

why don't they slap him then? if he did it, why? it is a criminal offense. why not bring attention to it at the time of the supposed incident. that is what you fail to ever say.

I notice you never ask that question about women who accuse Democrats. "Why did she wait so long?"

clintons accusers did not wait.

There you go. When discussing Trump’s perversions always bring up a Clinton just like you’ve been trained to do. You’re a trained seal.

yep and you can't justify it now can you hypocrite?