When Will They Ever Learn?

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...Never going to happen...
Tell that to the Jews who were expelled from Muslim countries by the scores of thousands in the 1948-1970 time frame.

But, you go right ahead and continue to believe that it's not possible, or even practical... it'll make the outcome even more hilarious, if it does come.
 
International law does NOT say that the occupied territories is Israeli land...

And yes, the delusional belligerence of Kondor3 is verging on psychotic!

How you think that you can answer for another is also delusional verging on psychotic...

Oh no, wait, that will be Phoney trying to hijack and derail yet another thread!

The moral of this thread from the beginning is simply if you don't want dead Palestinians, the Palestinians should refrain from attacking Israel & killing any Israelis. But then, history has proven that Palestinians will be Palestinians. So on it goes.
History has proven when the Palestinians behave like they did under Abbas, they get stabbed in the back by Israel by building more settlements and losing even the right to pray.

Fuck Israel.

Hey, like you I'm all for Hamas. Without Hamas who would fill Arafat's shoes in keeping the Palestinians living in ignorance & poverty with no hope for a Palestinian State?
Ham ass, Hamas has nothing to do with Abbas or settlement building. The World is onto your thieving conniving ways.

Hmmm! Do you think maybe the Arab countries did a terrible injustice to the Palestinians telling them to leave until the Arabs could annihilate Israel? No united Arab attack on Israel, no new land captured for settlements leaving Palestinians as refugees.
Those are all shallow victories because The West is not going to support Israel in her quest of and alienating a quarter of humanity...Sure AIPAC Control of our government is still viable for a while but like always throughout History, the Rich always overplay their hand until heads roll.
 
...Do you really think that Israel will be permitted to expel 6 million people?...
It would be surprisingly easy to achieve, and it would happen far more quickly than you might like to believe, if the Israelis set their minds to it.

It would be over before the so-called International Community even had an opportunity to act.

Nobody is going to go to war with Israel over the pissant Palestnians; certainly not the United States, and, therefore, certainly not The West.

Oh, they'll face a year or two of severe sanctions, and a few years beyond that of increasingly weak ones, until the sanctions thin-out and its back to business as usual...

As most of The West clucks its tongue in public, and laughs up its sleeve and winks, in private...

Sanctions? Worth it, at ten times the price, to complete the Reconquista of Eretz Yisrael, and to rid the place of the descendants of the Jackrabbits of 1948...

...Or is it just a silly wet dream on your part?...
As to practicality, The Enemy is already divided geographically, and has about as much military muscle as the Rhode Island chapter of the Girl Scouts on steroids.

Gaza first, West Bank second...

They need merely to divide Gaza into a half-dozen smaller fragments before getting underway, and a very brief series of lightning military thrusts could accomplish that like a hot knife cutting through butter...

Then flushing-out the fragments, one by one, and giving refugees only one conduit to escape through; one lined with IDF muscle, leading straight to the Jordanian border...

Once the West Bankers observe the fate of the more powerful and militant Gazans, they'll pee their pants and run for the Jordanian border on their own, and those who stubbornly stay behind can be flushed out easily enough, given a couple of weeks after taking the gloves off...

The strategy and tactics are surprisingly simple, and practical to achieve...

...Do you really think that murdering 6 million people is feasible...
Nobody's talking about murdering 6 million people, except mad-dog Muslims...

A serious Expulsion effort on the part of the Israelis would probably result in less than 20,000 Palestinian casualties, total; most of those Hamas and Fatah, and a handful of others...

Unleashed, and without regard for international opinion, the IDF would overwhelm Hamas (and Fatah, if they're stupid enough to try fighting again) easily and quickly; there is no way that your boys can withstand the IDF, if it takes the gloves off...

And, as their stupid militias collapse in a matter of hours or days, the Palestinians will pick up and run like rabbits - exactly like their fathers and grandfathers did back n 1948.

Especially if they know there's food and water and shelter and light and life to be had by taking the singular escape route that the Israelis provide, to nudge them across the Jordanian border, and especially if they know that both the Israelis and the so-called International Community were committed to helping them resettle elsewhere.

Herd them little dawgies along, cowboy...

Just ask the Syrians.

Or the Europeans, who are being obliged to absorb them by the scores of thousands.

Other than some bombing, of a militia-caliber armed force that can't really shoot back very well, 'the world' isn't exactly falling over itself, to fix that situation, is it?

And you really think that The World is going to go to war with Israel, for putting an end to a 67-year-long squabble, given Israel's power, alliances, influence, etc.?

Yer a funny guy... your own phrase 'wet dreams' comes to mind, in that context.

Actually, come to think of it, with the world so busy with Syria, this would be a perfect time for the Israelis to begin Operation Get-the-Fuck-Out, wouldn't it?
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...When are you going to grow up?
Irrelevant, but thank you for your feedback.

Your belief that Israel is some super state immune from international intervention is ridiculous beyond imagination....

Just a blood thirsty, belligerent, war mongering, deluded zionut...

Nothing to see here...





No not at all, BUT it does have International law on its side that says the land is Jewish, and if they so desired they could enforce that and run off the illegal squatters

International law does NOT say that the occupied territories is Israeli land...

And yes, the delusional belligerence of Kondor3 is verging on psychotic!

How you think that you can answer for another is also delusional verging on psychotic...

Oh no, wait, that will be Phoney trying to hijack and derail yet another thread!





Yes it does and it is stated twice in international law. Firstly it is in the LoN mandate for Palestine of 1923, then it was entered into the UN charter in 1949.

The rest of your post was off topic trolling, flaming and derailment
 
It would be surprisingly easy to achieve, and it would happen far more quickly than you might like to believe, if the Israelis set their minds to it.

It would be over before the so-called International Community even had an opportunity to act.

Nobody is going to go to war with Israel over the pissant Palestnians; certainly not the United States, and, therefore, certainly not The West.

Oh, they'll face a year or two of severe sanctions, and a few years beyond that of increasingly weak ones, until the sanctions thin-out and its back to business as usual...

As most of The West clucks its tongue in public, and laughs up its sleeve and winks, in private...

Sanctions? Worth it, at ten times the price, to complete the Reconquista of Eretz Yisrael, and to rid the place of the descendants of the Jackrabbits of 1948...

As to practicality, The Enemy is already divided geographically, and has about as much military muscle as the Rhode Island chapter of the Girl Scouts on steroids.

Gaza first, West Bank second...

They need merely to divide Gaza into a half-dozen smaller fragments before getting underway, and a very brief series of lightning military thrusts could accomplish that like a hot knife cutting through butter...

Then flushing-out the fragments, one by one, and giving refugees only one conduit to escape through; one lined with IDF muscle, leading straight to the Jordanian border...

Once the West Bankers observe the fate of the more powerful and militant Gazans, they'll pee their pants and run for the Jordanian border on their own, and those who stubbornly stay behind can be flushed out easily enough, given a couple of weeks after taking the gloves off...

The strategy and tactics are surprisingly simple, and practical to achieve...

Nobody's talking about murdering 6 million people, except mad-dog Muslims...

A serious Expulsion effort on the part of the Israelis would probably result in less than 20,000 Palestinian casualties, total; most of those Hamas and Fatah, and a handful of others...

Unleashed, and without regard for international opinion, the IDF would overwhelm Hamas (and Fatah, if they're stupid enough to try fighting again) easily and quickly; there is no way that your boys can withstand the IDF, if it takes the gloves off...

And, as their stupid militias collapse in a matter of hours or days, the Palestinians will pick up and run like rabbits - exactly like their fathers and grandfathers did back n 1948.

Especially if they know there's food and water and shelter and light and life to be had by taking the singular escape route that the Israelis provide, to nudge them across the Jordanian border, and especially if they know that both the Israelis and the so-called International Community were committed to helping them resettle elsewhere.

Herd them little dawgies along, cowboy...

Just ask the Syrians.

Or the Europeans, who are being obliged to absorb them by the scores of thousands.

Other than some bombing, of a militia-caliber armed force that can't really shoot back very well, 'the world' isn't exactly falling over itself, to fix that situation, is it?

And you really think that The World is going to go to war with Israel, for putting an end to a 67-year-long squabble, given Israel's power, alliances, influence, etc.?

Yer a funny guy... your own phrase 'wet dreams' comes to mind, in that context.

Actually, come to think of it, with the world so busy with Syria, this would be a perfect time for the Israelis to begin Operation Get-the-Fuck-Out, wouldn't it?
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Irrelevant, but thank you for your feedback.

Your belief that Israel is some super state immune from international intervention is ridiculous beyond imagination....

Just a blood thirsty, belligerent, war mongering, deluded zionut...

Nothing to see here...





No not at all, BUT it does have International law on its side that says the land is Jewish, and if they so desired they could enforce that and run off the illegal squatters

International law does NOT say that the occupied territories is Israeli land...

And yes, the delusional belligerence of Kondor3 is verging on psychotic!

How you think that you can answer for another is also delusional verging on psychotic...

Oh no, wait, that will be Phoney trying to hijack and derail yet another thread!

The moral of this thread from the beginning is simply if you don't want dead Palestinians, the Palestinians should refrain from attacking Israel & killing any Israelis. But then, history has proven that Palestinians will be Palestinians. So on it goes.
History has proven when the Palestinians behave like they did under Abbas, they get stabbed in the back by Israel by building more settlements and losing even the right to pray.

Fuck Israel.





Then the moral is not to act like they did and they will not lose. Until they accept their legal duties and accept they must negotiate in good faith as they promised they will keep on losing. But when and where did they lose the right to worship ?
 
No not at all, BUT it does have International law on its side that says the land is Jewish, and if they so desired they could enforce that and run off the illegal squatters

International law does NOT say that the occupied territories is Israeli land...

And yes, the delusional belligerence of Kondor3 is verging on psychotic!

How you think that you can answer for another is also delusional verging on psychotic...

Oh no, wait, that will be Phoney trying to hijack and derail yet another thread!

The moral of this thread from the beginning is simply if you don't want dead Palestinians, the Palestinians should refrain from attacking Israel & killing any Israelis. But then, history has proven that Palestinians will be Palestinians. So on it goes.
History has proven when the Palestinians behave like they did under Abbas, they get stabbed in the back by Israel by building more settlements and losing even the right to pray.

Fuck Israel.

Hey, like you I'm all for Hamas. Without Hamas who would fill Arafat's shoes in keeping the Palestinians living in ignorance & poverty with no hope for a Palestinian State?
Ham ass, Hamas has nothing to do with Abbas or settlement building. The World is onto your thieving conniving ways.





Oslo 2 is still in force, as Abbas keeps using it against Israel and failing every time. But once again the Palestinians only want Israel to be the ones who abide by the agreements, while they are allowed to breach them with impunity.
 
...History has proven when the Palestinians behave like they did under Abbas, they get stabbed in the back by Israel by building more settlements and losing even the right to pray...
The moral of the Great Arab Skeddaddle of 1948?

"He who pees his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

...Fuck Israel.
Not before they phukk you(r side), first...
Well it seems like the UN who is passing pro-Palestinian resolutions is saying the same as me... Sure Ignore what the world wants and Israel's years are numbered as a viable State until she chokes.





Because there are more pro palli delegates who want to see the Jews wiped out, still wont make it another holocaust as the UN will have collapsed before that happens and the pro pallis wont have a legal outlet for their racism
 
...History has proven when the Palestinians behave like they did under Abbas, they get stabbed in the back by Israel by building more settlements and losing even the right to pray...
The moral of the Great Arab Skeddaddle of 1948?

"He who pees his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

...Fuck Israel.
Not before they phukk you(r side), first...
Well it seems like the UN who is passing pro-Palestinian resolutions is saying the same as me... Sure Ignore what the world wants and Israel's years are numbered as a viable State until she chokes.
I wouldn't put too much stock in the New York International Old Ladies Debating Society, a.k.a. the United Nations.

Especially with the US holding veto power in the Security Council, which, unlike the fools and whores in the General Assembly, is where the power really is...

And with a strong shift back towards Israel coming, in Washington DC, in about 13 months...

The shift will be away from Israel as the U.S. and the West, in general, will be seeking to co-opt as many Muslims to the anti-ISIS alliance as possible. ISIS seems to be taking over Libya now. They are marching on Sirte, the capital of one of the two Libyan regimes. Quite a mess.




And the west will very soon start bomb runs to eliminate Islamic extremism, then start deporting muslims from the likes of France, UK, Belgium, Germany, Italy, Spain, Greece et al because we are sick and tired of their greed and violence
 
Your belief that Israel is some super state immune from international intervention is ridiculous beyond imagination....

Just a blood thirsty, belligerent, war mongering, deluded zionut...

Nothing to see here...





No not at all, BUT it does have International law on its side that says the land is Jewish, and if they so desired they could enforce that and run off the illegal squatters

International law does NOT say that the occupied territories is Israeli land...

And yes, the delusional belligerence of Kondor3 is verging on psychotic!

How you think that you can answer for another is also delusional verging on psychotic...

Oh no, wait, that will be Phoney trying to hijack and derail yet another thread!

The moral of this thread from the beginning is simply if you don't want dead Palestinians, the Palestinians should refrain from attacking Israel & killing any Israelis. But then, history has proven that Palestinians will be Palestinians. So on it goes.
History has proven when the Palestinians behave like they did under Abbas, they get stabbed in the back by Israel by building more settlements and losing even the right to pray.

Fuck Israel.





Then the moral is not to act like they did and they will not lose. Until they accept their legal duties and accept they must negotiate in good faith as they promised they will keep on losing. But when and where did they lose the right to worship ?
 
The moral of this thread from the beginning is simply if you don't want dead Palestinians, the Palestinians should refrain from attacking Israel & killing any Israelis. But then, history has proven that Palestinians will be Palestinians. So on it goes.
History has proven when the Palestinians behave like they did under Abbas, they get stabbed in the back by Israel by building more settlements and losing even the right to pray.

Fuck Israel.

Hey, like you I'm all for Hamas. Without Hamas who would fill Arafat's shoes in keeping the Palestinians living in ignorance & poverty with no hope for a Palestinian State?
Ham ass, Hamas has nothing to do with Abbas or settlement building. The World is onto your thieving conniving ways.

Hmmm! Do you think maybe the Arab countries did a terrible injustice to the Palestinians telling them to leave until the Arabs could annihilate Israel? No united Arab attack on Israel, no new land captured for settlements leaving Palestinians as refugees.
Those are all shallow victories because The West is not going to support Israel in her quest of and alienating a quarter of humanity...Sure AIPAC Control of our government is still viable for a while but like always throughout History, the Rich always overplay their hand until heads roll.

God bless America & AIPAC. As long as we Americans have AIPAC there will never be sharia law in the USA.
 
...History has proven when the Palestinians behave like they did under Abbas, they get stabbed in the back by Israel by building more settlements and losing even the right to pray...
The moral of the Great Arab Skeddaddle of 1948?

"He who pees his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

...Fuck Israel.
Not before they phukk you(r side), first...
Well it seems like the UN who is passing pro-Palestinian resolutions is saying the same as me... Sure Ignore what the world wants and Israel's years are numbered as a viable State until she chokes.
I wouldn't put too much stock in the New York International Old Ladies Debating Society, a.k.a. the United Nations.

Especially with the US holding veto power in the Security Council, which, unlike the fools and whores in the General Assembly, is where the power really is...

And with a strong shift back towards Israel coming, in Washington DC, in about 13 months...

The shift will be away from Israel as the U.S. and the West, in general, will be seeking to co-opt as many Muslims to the anti-ISIS alliance as possible. ISIS seems to be taking over Libya now. They are marching on Sirte, the capital of one of the two Libyan regimes. Quite a mess.




And the west will very soon start bomb runs to eliminate Islamic extremism, then start deporting muslims from the likes of France, UK, Belgium, Germany, Italy, Spain, Greece et al because we are sick and tired of their greed and violence

It is true that soon it will become a united alliance of peace loving nations versus Muslims. Truly a pity thanks to radical Islamists killing us infidels all over the world.
 
...History has proven when the Palestinians behave like they did under Abbas, they get stabbed in the back by Israel by building more settlements and losing even the right to pray...
The moral of the Great Arab Skeddaddle of 1948?

"He who pees his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

...Fuck Israel.
Not before they phukk you(r side), first...
Well it seems like the UN who is passing pro-Palestinian resolutions is saying the same as me... Sure Ignore what the world wants and Israel's years are numbered as a viable State until she chokes.
I wouldn't put too much stock in the New York International Old Ladies Debating Society, a.k.a. the United Nations.

Especially with the US holding veto power in the Security Council, which, unlike the fools and whores in the General Assembly, is where the power really is...

And with a strong shift back towards Israel coming, in Washington DC, in about 13 months...

The shift will be away from Israel as the U.S. and the West, in general, will be seeking to co-opt as many Muslims to the anti-ISIS alliance as possible. ISIS seems to be taking over Libya now. They are marching on Sirte, the capital of one of the two Libyan regimes. Quite a mess.




And the west will very soon start bomb runs to eliminate Islamic extremism, then start deporting muslims from the likes of France, UK, Belgium, Germany, Italy, Spain, Greece et al because we are sick and tired of their greed and violence

Deporting ALL Muslims from those countries?
 
The moral of the Great Arab Skeddaddle of 1948?

"He who pees his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

Not before they phukk you(r side), first...
Well it seems like the UN who is passing pro-Palestinian resolutions is saying the same as me... Sure Ignore what the world wants and Israel's years are numbered as a viable State until she chokes.
I wouldn't put too much stock in the New York International Old Ladies Debating Society, a.k.a. the United Nations.

Especially with the US holding veto power in the Security Council, which, unlike the fools and whores in the General Assembly, is where the power really is...

And with a strong shift back towards Israel coming, in Washington DC, in about 13 months...

The shift will be away from Israel as the U.S. and the West, in general, will be seeking to co-opt as many Muslims to the anti-ISIS alliance as possible. ISIS seems to be taking over Libya now. They are marching on Sirte, the capital of one of the two Libyan regimes. Quite a mess.




And the west will very soon start bomb runs to eliminate Islamic extremism, then start deporting muslims from the likes of France, UK, Belgium, Germany, Italy, Spain, Greece et al because we are sick and tired of their greed and violence

Deporting ALL Muslims from those countries?





If it makes these countries safer when islam declares war then yes why not. It is allowed in international law as they are classed as enemies of the state. But just look at the riots, violence and terrorism in Europe at the moment by the hordes of muslims "refugees" that are flooding in to reclaim the waqf they lost.
 
a united alliance of peace loving nations

Won't include Israel then....

And would the "united alliance of peace loving nations" be against ALL Muslims?

Of course not. Just against radical Islamists in all countries. Care to join in for peace?

I have never been against peace... Nor against the existence of Israel...

When are you going to join in for peace?

Your rather hypercritical belief that war and murder is ok on one hand and the call for peace in the same sentence is not a logical approach for peace...

When you are able to understand that then you can join in for peace.
 
a united alliance of peace loving nations

Won't include Israel then....

And would the "united alliance of peace loving nations" be against ALL Muslims?

Of course not. Just against radical Islamists in all countries. Care to join in for peace?

I have never been against peace... Nor against the existence of Israel...

When are you going to join in for peace?

Your rather hypercritical belief that war and murder is ok on one hand and the call for peace in the same sentence is not a logical approach for peace...

When you are able to understand that then you can join in for peace.


Regretfully only war can bring peace when all other options have failed. Without war the USA would still be a British colony. Without war Hitler would have ruled the world. Without war Japan would not be our ally & trading partner. And without war Jordan would not be at peace from Palestinians. When will Israel ever learn?
 
a united alliance of peace loving nations

Won't include Israel then....

And would the "united alliance of peace loving nations" be against ALL Muslims?

Of course not. Just against radical Islamists in all countries. Care to join in for peace?

I have never been against peace... Nor against the existence of Israel...

When are you going to join in for peace?

Your rather hypercritical belief that war and murder is ok on one hand and the call for peace in the same sentence is not a logical approach for peace...

When you are able to understand that then you can join in for peace.


Regretfully only war can bring peace when all other options have failed. Without war the USA would still be a British colony. Without war Hitler would have ruled the world. Without war Japan would not be our ally & trading partner. And without war Jordan would not be at peace from Palestinians. When will Israel ever learn?

Normally when you something a war, both parties are armed. You can't really fight a war with a population you are occupying. Just as the Nazis could not claim that they were at war with the jews.
 
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