When Will They Ever Learn?

[Hollie]

a united alliance of peace loving nations

Won't include Israel then....

And would the "united alliance of peace loving nations" be against ALL Muslims?

Of course not. Just against radical Islamists in all countries. Care to join in for peace?

I have never been against peace... Nor against the existence of Israel...

When are you going to join in for peace?

Your rather hypercritical belief that war and murder is ok on one hand and the call for peace in the same sentence is not a logical approach for peace...

When you are able to understand that then you can join in for peace.

Regretfully only war can bring peace when all other options have failed. Without war the USA would still be a British colony. Without war Hitler would have ruled the world. Without war Japan would not be our ally & trading partner. And without war Jordan would not be at peace from Palestinians. When will Israel ever learn?

Normally when you something a war, both parties are armed. You can't really fight a war with a population you are occupying. Just as the Nazis could not claim that they were at war with the jews.

Normally, wars are fought by armies of uniformed soldiers. The Pal'istanian Islamic terrorists refuse to wear identifiable uniforms.

Israel is not occupying a population as it applies to the Islamic terrorists in Gaza.

Not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

 

[montelatici]

Won't include Israel then....

And would the "united alliance of peace loving nations" be against ALL Muslims?

Of course not. Just against radical Islamists in all countries. Care to join in for peace?

I have never been against peace... Nor against the existence of Israel...

When are you going to join in for peace?

Your rather hypercritical belief that war and murder is ok on one hand and the call for peace in the same sentence is not a logical approach for peace...

When you are able to understand that then you can join in for peace.

Regretfully only war can bring peace when all other options have failed. Without war the USA would still be a British colony. Without war Hitler would have ruled the world. Without war Japan would not be our ally & trading partner. And without war Jordan would not be at peace from Palestinians. When will Israel ever learn?

Normally when you something a war, both parties are armed. You can't really fight a war with a population you are occupying. Just as the Nazis could not claim that they were at war with the jews.

Normally, wars are fought by armies of uniformed soldiers. The Pal'istanian Islamic terrorists refuse to wear identifiable uniforms.

Israel is not occupying a population as it applies to the Islamic terrorists in Gaza.

Not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

Of course Israel is occupying Gaza, as all the parties agree, the U.S. included. Holding a population within an area of land, controlling exit and entry, and bombing and entering the place to perform periodic massacres of thousands of women and children is occupation.

 

[pbel]

a united alliance of peace loving nations

Won't include Israel then....

And would the "united alliance of peace loving nations" be against ALL Muslims?

Of course not. Just against radical Islamists in all countries. Care to join in for peace?

I have never been against peace... Nor against the existence of Israel...

When are you going to join in for peace?

Your rather hypercritical belief that war and murder is ok on one hand and the call for peace in the same sentence is not a logical approach for peace...

When you are able to understand that then you can join in for peace.

Regretfully only war can bring peace when all other options have failed. Without war the USA would still be a British colony. Without war Hitler would have ruled the world. Without war Japan would not be our ally & trading partner. And without war Jordan would not be at peace from Palestinians. When will Israel ever learn?

The thing is that no one in the West is willing to die for Israel. Sure Israel's friends world-wide are well heeled and their money bought the influence needed to support the Israeli conquest of Palestine. Its a powerful world-wide lobby.

In America we saw our President stabbed in the back by Nut&Yahoo finally exposing publicly how Israel via AIPAC can control our foreign policies even to the detriment of the American People.

As the BDS in America is showing that academia and our younger generation will in the future cut our ties with an Israeli state that runs counter to all our basic beliefs in America.

 

[Hollie]

Of course not. Just against radical Islamists in all countries. Care to join in for peace?

I have never been against peace... Nor against the existence of Israel...

When are you going to join in for peace?

Your rather hypercritical belief that war and murder is ok on one hand and the call for peace in the same sentence is not a logical approach for peace...

When you are able to understand that then you can join in for peace.

Regretfully only war can bring peace when all other options have failed. Without war the USA would still be a British colony. Without war Hitler would have ruled the world. Without war Japan would not be our ally & trading partner. And without war Jordan would not be at peace from Palestinians. When will Israel ever learn?

Normally when you something a war, both parties are armed. You can't really fight a war with a population you are occupying. Just as the Nazis could not claim that they were at war with the jews.

Normally, wars are fought by armies of uniformed soldiers. The Pal'istanian Islamic terrorists refuse to wear identifiable uniforms.

Israel is not occupying a population as it applies to the Islamic terrorists in Gaza.

Not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

Of course Israel is occupying Gaza, as all the parties agree, the U.S. included. Holding a population within an area of land, controlling exit and entry, and bombing and entering the place to perform periodic massacres of thousands of women and children is occupation.

As noted, not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

I'm afraid once again that you see the promotion of Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism as an entitlement for adherents to an utterly hostile and belligerent politico-religious ideology.

So the Hamas Charter is not representative of the preferred allegiances of especially fanatical devotees of an especially inflexible politico-religious ideology, but the socio-political program of a hostile, gun-touting movement that seeks dominion over the entire globe deeming itself to have been sanctioned by God.

 

[montelatici]

I have never been against peace... Nor against the existence of Israel...

When are you going to join in for peace?

Your rather hypercritical belief that war and murder is ok on one hand and the call for peace in the same sentence is not a logical approach for peace...

When you are able to understand that then you can join in for peace.

Regretfully only war can bring peace when all other options have failed. Without war the USA would still be a British colony. Without war Hitler would have ruled the world. Without war Japan would not be our ally & trading partner. And without war Jordan would not be at peace from Palestinians. When will Israel ever learn?

Normally when you something a war, both parties are armed. You can't really fight a war with a population you are occupying. Just as the Nazis could not claim that they were at war with the jews.

Normally, wars are fought by armies of uniformed soldiers. The Pal'istanian Islamic terrorists refuse to wear identifiable uniforms.

Israel is not occupying a population as it applies to the Islamic terrorists in Gaza.

Not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

Of course Israel is occupying Gaza, as all the parties agree, the U.S. included. Holding a population within an area of land, controlling exit and entry, and bombing and entering the place to perform periodic massacres of thousands of women and children is occupation.

As noted, not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

I'm afraid once again that you see the promotion of Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism as an entitlement for adherents to an utterly hostile and belligerent politico-religious ideology.

So the Hamas Charter is not representative of the preferred allegiances of especially fanatical devotees of an especially inflexible politico-religious ideology, but the socio-political program of a hostile, gun-touting movement that seeks dominion over the entire globe deeming itself to have been sanctioned by God.

1. There were no excuses for Palestinian Christian and Muslim religion given. The legality of resistance to occupation and colonization is enshrined in international law:

"Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means,
including armed struggle;"


2. The Hamas Charter is no more representative than the Likud Charter.

 

[Hollie]

Regretfully only war can bring peace when all other options have failed. Without war the USA would still be a British colony. Without war Hitler would have ruled the world. Without war Japan would not be our ally & trading partner. And without war Jordan would not be at peace from Palestinians. When will Israel ever learn?

Normally when you something a war, both parties are armed. You can't really fight a war with a population you are occupying. Just as the Nazis could not claim that they were at war with the jews.

Normally, wars are fought by armies of uniformed soldiers. The Pal'istanian Islamic terrorists refuse to wear identifiable uniforms.

Israel is not occupying a population as it applies to the Islamic terrorists in Gaza.

Not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

Of course Israel is occupying Gaza, as all the parties agree, the U.S. included. Holding a population within an area of land, controlling exit and entry, and bombing and entering the place to perform periodic massacres of thousands of women and children is occupation.

As noted, not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

I'm afraid once again that you see the promotion of Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism as an entitlement for adherents to an utterly hostile and belligerent politico-religious ideology.

So the Hamas Charter is not representative of the preferred allegiances of especially fanatical devotees of an especially inflexible politico-religious ideology, but the socio-political program of a hostile, gun-touting movement that seeks dominion over the entire globe deeming itself to have been sanctioned by God.

1. There were no excuses for Palestinian Christian and Muslim religion given. The legality of resistance to occupation and colonization is enshrined in international law:

"Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means,
including armed struggle;"


2. The Hamas Charter is no more representative than the Likud Charter.

1. Since when are acts of Islamic terrorism enshrined in any law?

2. As for Hamas, "yes" it is a violent Pal'istinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood birthed in the intifadah.

a) the example of Hamas in forcibly establishing Islamic law, as they interpret it upon the citizens of Gaza is antithetical to human rights.
b) their hate speech and calls for violence against "Jews"--not merely Israelis (and even that is a concern).
c) Hamas opposes peace negotiation with Israel, particularly any that includes Palestinian recognition of the State of Israel with normalization of relations between a proposed Palestinian State and Israel.
While touting democratic election, it staged a coup, killed Fatah opposition members and their families, and have forced their anti-democratic Islamic codes of contacts on Gazans.

Despite your false representation that that the Hamas Charter is no more representative than the Likud Charter, that also is a function of your islamist apologetics. The Hamas Charter has never been revised or rescinded and remains one of the most belligerent anti-Israel and even anti-Semitic documents of its type anywhere. It is for these reasons that Hamas similarly does not "play a significant role" in the quest to achieve a settlement between the Pal'istinians and Israel.

d) Hamas is sworn to the extermination of Israel per the Charter and they have murdered Israelis indiscriminately. There are no Jews living in lands under Hamas or Palestinian control.
Similarly, by justification of their Islamic ideology, they seek to establish a world under Islamic rule. They mass-murdered fellow Palestinians (e.g. Fatah) disloyal to their cause.

The Israelis have continually fought to keep from being exterminated.

They have a parliamentary democracy inclusive of Arab Israelis. Arab Israeli and Palestinian populations in Gaza and the West Bank have increased exponentially since the establishment of the State of Israel. Israeli Arabs have a higher standard of living per capita than Arabs elsewhere in the Arab world.

Similarly, by justification of democratic principles, Israel has formally recognized the Palestinians as a people with whom a diplomatic solution for the ultimate establishment of Palestinian autonomy (i.e. State) in the West Bank and Gaza must be achieved.

Israelis are fighting to survive and live adjacent to Palestinians.

Hamas is fighting to eliminate the Israelis.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Won't include Israel then....

And would the "united alliance of peace loving nations" be against ALL Muslims?

Of course not. Just against radical Islamists in all countries. Care to join in for peace?

I have never been against peace... Nor against the existence of Israel...

When are you going to join in for peace?

Your rather hypercritical belief that war and murder is ok on one hand and the call for peace in the same sentence is not a logical approach for peace...

When you are able to understand that then you can join in for peace.

Regretfully only war can bring peace when all other options have failed. Without war the USA would still be a British colony. Without war Hitler would have ruled the world. Without war Japan would not be our ally & trading partner. And without war Jordan would not be at peace from Palestinians. When will Israel ever learn?

Normally when you something a war, both parties are armed. You can't really fight a war with a population you are occupying. Just as the Nazis could not claim that they were at war with the jews.

Normally, wars are fought by armies of uniformed soldiers. The Pal'istanian Islamic terrorists refuse to wear identifiable uniforms.

Israel is not occupying a population as it applies to the Islamic terrorists in Gaza.

Not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

Normally, wars are fought by armies of uniformed soldiers.​

Israel has an army with uniformed soldiers.

Palestine does not have an army.

 

[montelatici]

Normally when you something a war, both parties are armed. You can't really fight a war with a population you are occupying. Just as the Nazis could not claim that they were at war with the jews.

Normally, wars are fought by armies of uniformed soldiers. The Pal'istanian Islamic terrorists refuse to wear identifiable uniforms.

Israel is not occupying a population as it applies to the Islamic terrorists in Gaza.

Not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

Of course Israel is occupying Gaza, as all the parties agree, the U.S. included. Holding a population within an area of land, controlling exit and entry, and bombing and entering the place to perform periodic massacres of thousands of women and children is occupation.

As noted, not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

I'm afraid once again that you see the promotion of Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism as an entitlement for adherents to an utterly hostile and belligerent politico-religious ideology.

So the Hamas Charter is not representative of the preferred allegiances of especially fanatical devotees of an especially inflexible politico-religious ideology, but the socio-political program of a hostile, gun-touting movement that seeks dominion over the entire globe deeming itself to have been sanctioned by God.

1. There were no excuses for Palestinian Christian and Muslim religion given. The legality of resistance to occupation and colonization is enshrined in international law:

"Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means,
including armed struggle;"


2. The Hamas Charter is no more representative than the Likud Charter.

1. Since when are acts of Islamic terrorism enshrined in any law?

2. As for Hamas, "yes" it is a violent Pal'istinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood birthed in the intifadah.

a) the example of Hamas in forcibly establishing Islamic law, as they interpret it upon the citizens of Gaza is antithetical to human rights.
b) their hate speech and calls for violence against "Jews"--not merely Israelis (and even that is a concern).
c) Hamas opposes peace negotiation with Israel, particularly any that includes Palestinian recognition of the State of Israel with normalization of relations between a proposed Palestinian State and Israel.
While touting democratic election, it staged a coup, killed Fatah opposition members and their families, and have forced their anti-democratic Islamic codes of contacts on Gazans.

Despite your false representation that that the Hamas Charter is no more representative than the Likud Charter, that also is a function of your islamist apologetics. The Hamas Charter has never been revised or rescinded and remains one of the most belligerent anti-Israel and even anti-Semitic documents of its type anywhere. It is for these reasons that Hamas similarly does not "play a significant role" in the quest to achieve a settlement between the Pal'istinians and Israel.

d) Hamas is sworn to the extermination of Israel per the Charter and they have murdered Israelis indiscriminately. There are no Jews living in lands under Hamas or Palestinian control.
Similarly, by justification of their Islamic ideology, they seek to establish a world under Islamic rule. They mass-murdered fellow Palestinians (e.g. Fatah) disloyal to their cause.

The Israelis have continually fought to keep from being exterminated.

They have a parliamentary democracy inclusive of Arab Israelis. Arab Israeli and Palestinian populations in Gaza and the West Bank have increased exponentially since the establishment of the State of Israel. Israeli Arabs have a higher standard of living per capita than Arabs elsewhere in the Arab world.

Similarly, by justification of democratic principles, Israel has formally recognized the Palestinians as a people with whom a diplomatic solution for the ultimate establishment of Palestinian autonomy (i.e. State) in the West Bank and Gaza must be achieved.

Israelis are fighting to survive and live adjacent to Palestinians.

Hamas is fighting to eliminate the Israelis.

Hamas is fighting to end the Israeli blockade/imprisonment.

 

[Hollie]

Normally, wars are fought by armies of uniformed soldiers. The Pal'istanian Islamic terrorists refuse to wear identifiable uniforms.

Israel is not occupying a population as it applies to the Islamic terrorists in Gaza.

Not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

Of course Israel is occupying Gaza, as all the parties agree, the U.S. included. Holding a population within an area of land, controlling exit and entry, and bombing and entering the place to perform periodic massacres of thousands of women and children is occupation.

As noted, not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

I'm afraid once again that you see the promotion of Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism as an entitlement for adherents to an utterly hostile and belligerent politico-religious ideology.

So the Hamas Charter is not representative of the preferred allegiances of especially fanatical devotees of an especially inflexible politico-religious ideology, but the socio-political program of a hostile, gun-touting movement that seeks dominion over the entire globe deeming itself to have been sanctioned by God.

1. There were no excuses for Palestinian Christian and Muslim religion given. The legality of resistance to occupation and colonization is enshrined in international law:

"Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means,
including armed struggle;"


2. The Hamas Charter is no more representative than the Likud Charter.

1. Since when are acts of Islamic terrorism enshrined in any law?

2. As for Hamas, "yes" it is a violent Pal'istinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood birthed in the intifadah.

a) the example of Hamas in forcibly establishing Islamic law, as they interpret it upon the citizens of Gaza is antithetical to human rights.
b) their hate speech and calls for violence against "Jews"--not merely Israelis (and even that is a concern).
c) Hamas opposes peace negotiation with Israel, particularly any that includes Palestinian recognition of the State of Israel with normalization of relations between a proposed Palestinian State and Israel.
While touting democratic election, it staged a coup, killed Fatah opposition members and their families, and have forced their anti-democratic Islamic codes of contacts on Gazans.

Despite your false representation that that the Hamas Charter is no more representative than the Likud Charter, that also is a function of your islamist apologetics. The Hamas Charter has never been revised or rescinded and remains one of the most belligerent anti-Israel and even anti-Semitic documents of its type anywhere. It is for these reasons that Hamas similarly does not "play a significant role" in the quest to achieve a settlement between the Pal'istinians and Israel.

d) Hamas is sworn to the extermination of Israel per the Charter and they have murdered Israelis indiscriminately. There are no Jews living in lands under Hamas or Palestinian control.
Similarly, by justification of their Islamic ideology, they seek to establish a world under Islamic rule. They mass-murdered fellow Palestinians (e.g. Fatah) disloyal to their cause.

The Israelis have continually fought to keep from being exterminated.

They have a parliamentary democracy inclusive of Arab Israelis. Arab Israeli and Palestinian populations in Gaza and the West Bank have increased exponentially since the establishment of the State of Israel. Israeli Arabs have a higher standard of living per capita than Arabs elsewhere in the Arab world.

Similarly, by justification of democratic principles, Israel has formally recognized the Palestinians as a people with whom a diplomatic solution for the ultimate establishment of Palestinian autonomy (i.e. State) in the West Bank and Gaza must be achieved.

Israelis are fighting to survive and live adjacent to Palestinians.

Hamas is fighting to eliminate the Israelis.

Hamas is fighting to end the Israeli blockade/imprisonment.

That was an option that could have been addressed when Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza'istan. When the Pal'istanian terrorists chose to do, well, what Pal'istanian Islamic terrorists do, which is, perpetrate acts of war, Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism has consequences.

 

[Phoenall]

a united alliance of peace loving nations

Won't include Israel then....

And would the "united alliance of peace loving nations" be against ALL Muslims?

Why wont it include Israel as they have a proven record of being peace loving.

Oh yes, so I see...

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Those are replies to acts of war by Palestinian terrorists and scum. so do not show Israel to be anything else but peace loving.

 

[Phoenall]

a united alliance of peace loving nations

Won't include Israel then....

And would the "united alliance of peace loving nations" be against ALL Muslims?

Of course not. Just against radical Islamists in all countries. Care to join in for peace?

I have never been against peace... Nor against the existence of Israel...

When are you going to join in for peace?

Your rather hypercritical belief that war and murder is ok on one hand and the call for peace in the same sentence is not a logical approach for peace...

When you are able to understand that then you can join in for peace.

When will you learn that demonising Israel in the same post you claim you don't shows you to be a Jew hater. We know you want Israel to be part of the Islamic waqf which is why you claim you are bot against its existence. The Palestinians have it in their hands to halt the deaths simply by accepting peace talks and negotiations on mutual borders.

 

[Phoenall]

Of course not. Just against radical Islamists in all countries. Care to join in for peace?

I have never been against peace... Nor against the existence of Israel...

When are you going to join in for peace?

Your rather hypercritical belief that war and murder is ok on one hand and the call for peace in the same sentence is not a logical approach for peace...

When you are able to understand that then you can join in for peace.

Regretfully only war can bring peace when all other options have failed. Without war the USA would still be a British colony. Without war Hitler would have ruled the world. Without war Japan would not be our ally & trading partner. And without war Jordan would not be at peace from Palestinians. When will Israel ever learn?

Normally when you something a war, both parties are armed. You can't really fight a war with a population you are occupying. Just as the Nazis could not claim that they were at war with the jews.

Normally, wars are fought by armies of uniformed soldiers. The Pal'istanian Islamic terrorists refuse to wear identifiable uniforms.

Israel is not occupying a population as it applies to the Islamic terrorists in Gaza.

Not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

Of course Israel is occupying Gaza, as all the parties agree, the U.S. included. Holding a population within an area of land, controlling exit and entry, and bombing and entering the place to perform periodic massacres of thousands of women and children is occupation.

Not according to international law that states they must have full control over the land and have military control of the population. Israel does not have that because if it did not one rocket would ever be fired again from gaza.

 

[Phoenall]

Regretfully only war can bring peace when all other options have failed. Without war the USA would still be a British colony. Without war Hitler would have ruled the world. Without war Japan would not be our ally & trading partner. And without war Jordan would not be at peace from Palestinians. When will Israel ever learn?

Normally when you something a war, both parties are armed. You can't really fight a war with a population you are occupying. Just as the Nazis could not claim that they were at war with the jews.

Normally, wars are fought by armies of uniformed soldiers. The Pal'istanian Islamic terrorists refuse to wear identifiable uniforms.

Israel is not occupying a population as it applies to the Islamic terrorists in Gaza.

Not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

Of course Israel is occupying Gaza, as all the parties agree, the U.S. included. Holding a population within an area of land, controlling exit and entry, and bombing and entering the place to perform periodic massacres of thousands of women and children is occupation.

As noted, not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

I'm afraid once again that you see the promotion of Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism as an entitlement for adherents to an utterly hostile and belligerent politico-religious ideology.

So the Hamas Charter is not representative of the preferred allegiances of especially fanatical devotees of an especially inflexible politico-religious ideology, but the socio-political program of a hostile, gun-touting movement that seeks dominion over the entire globe deeming itself to have been sanctioned by God.

1. There were no excuses for Palestinian Christian and Muslim religion given. The legality of resistance to occupation and colonization is enshrined in international law:

"Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means,
including armed struggle;"


2. The Hamas Charter is no more representative than the Likud Charter.

Which international law is that from then, as UN resolutions are not international laws.

 

[Phoenall]

Of course not. Just against radical Islamists in all countries. Care to join in for peace?

I have never been against peace... Nor against the existence of Israel...

When are you going to join in for peace?

Your rather hypercritical belief that war and murder is ok on one hand and the call for peace in the same sentence is not a logical approach for peace...

When you are able to understand that then you can join in for peace.

Regretfully only war can bring peace when all other options have failed. Without war the USA would still be a British colony. Without war Hitler would have ruled the world. Without war Japan would not be our ally & trading partner. And without war Jordan would not be at peace from Palestinians. When will Israel ever learn?

Normally when you something a war, both parties are armed. You can't really fight a war with a population you are occupying. Just as the Nazis could not claim that they were at war with the jews.

Normally, wars are fought by armies of uniformed soldiers. The Pal'istanian Islamic terrorists refuse to wear identifiable uniforms.

Israel is not occupying a population as it applies to the Islamic terrorists in Gaza.

Not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

Normally, wars are fought by armies of uniformed soldiers.​

Israel has an army with uniformed soldiers.

Palestine does not have an army.

Says who as they are all soldiers of allah as commanded in the koran. I think what you mean is they do not have a military with a cascading command structure

 

[Phoenall]

Normally, wars are fought by armies of uniformed soldiers. The Pal'istanian Islamic terrorists refuse to wear identifiable uniforms.

Israel is not occupying a population as it applies to the Islamic terrorists in Gaza.

Not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

Of course Israel is occupying Gaza, as all the parties agree, the U.S. included. Holding a population within an area of land, controlling exit and entry, and bombing and entering the place to perform periodic massacres of thousands of women and children is occupation.

As noted, not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

I'm afraid once again that you see the promotion of Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism as an entitlement for adherents to an utterly hostile and belligerent politico-religious ideology.

So the Hamas Charter is not representative of the preferred allegiances of especially fanatical devotees of an especially inflexible politico-religious ideology, but the socio-political program of a hostile, gun-touting movement that seeks dominion over the entire globe deeming itself to have been sanctioned by God.

1. There were no excuses for Palestinian Christian and Muslim religion given. The legality of resistance to occupation and colonization is enshrined in international law:

"Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means,
including armed struggle;"


2. The Hamas Charter is no more representative than the Likud Charter.

1. Since when are acts of Islamic terrorism enshrined in any law?

2. As for Hamas, "yes" it is a violent Pal'istinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood birthed in the intifadah.

a) the example of Hamas in forcibly establishing Islamic law, as they interpret it upon the citizens of Gaza is antithetical to human rights.
b) their hate speech and calls for violence against "Jews"--not merely Israelis (and even that is a concern).
c) Hamas opposes peace negotiation with Israel, particularly any that includes Palestinian recognition of the State of Israel with normalization of relations between a proposed Palestinian State and Israel.
While touting democratic election, it staged a coup, killed Fatah opposition members and their families, and have forced their anti-democratic Islamic codes of contacts on Gazans.

Despite your false representation that that the Hamas Charter is no more representative than the Likud Charter, that also is a function of your islamist apologetics. The Hamas Charter has never been revised or rescinded and remains one of the most belligerent anti-Israel and even anti-Semitic documents of its type anywhere. It is for these reasons that Hamas similarly does not "play a significant role" in the quest to achieve a settlement between the Pal'istinians and Israel.

d) Hamas is sworn to the extermination of Israel per the Charter and they have murdered Israelis indiscriminately. There are no Jews living in lands under Hamas or Palestinian control.
Similarly, by justification of their Islamic ideology, they seek to establish a world under Islamic rule. They mass-murdered fellow Palestinians (e.g. Fatah) disloyal to their cause.

The Israelis have continually fought to keep from being exterminated.

They have a parliamentary democracy inclusive of Arab Israelis. Arab Israeli and Palestinian populations in Gaza and the West Bank have increased exponentially since the establishment of the State of Israel. Israeli Arabs have a higher standard of living per capita than Arabs elsewhere in the Arab world.

Similarly, by justification of democratic principles, Israel has formally recognized the Palestinians as a people with whom a diplomatic solution for the ultimate establishment of Palestinian autonomy (i.e. State) in the West Bank and Gaza must be achieved.

Israelis are fighting to survive and live adjacent to Palestinians.

Hamas is fighting to eliminate the Israelis.

Hamas is fighting to end the Israeli blockade/imprisonment.

Then why are the fighting from gaza that is not occupied

 

[Humanity]

a united alliance of peace loving nations

Won't include Israel then....

And would the "united alliance of peace loving nations" be against ALL Muslims?

Of course not. Just against radical Islamists in all countries. Care to join in for peace?

I have never been against peace... Nor against the existence of Israel...

When are you going to join in for peace?

Your rather hypercritical belief that war and murder is ok on one hand and the call for peace in the same sentence is not a logical approach for peace...

When you are able to understand that then you can join in for peace.

When will you learn that demonising Israel in the same post you claim you don't shows you to be a Jew hater. We know you want Israel to be part of the Islamic waqf which is why you claim you are bot against its existence. The Palestinians have it in their hands to halt the deaths simply by accepting peace talks and negotiations on mutual borders.

If you insist upon reply for other people Phoney then at least try and read the post you are responding to!

 

[Humanity]

Of course Israel is occupying Gaza, as all the parties agree, the U.S. included. Holding a population within an area of land, controlling exit and entry, and bombing and entering the place to perform periodic massacres of thousands of women and children is occupation.

As noted, not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

I'm afraid once again that you see the promotion of Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism as an entitlement for adherents to an utterly hostile and belligerent politico-religious ideology.

So the Hamas Charter is not representative of the preferred allegiances of especially fanatical devotees of an especially inflexible politico-religious ideology, but the socio-political program of a hostile, gun-touting movement that seeks dominion over the entire globe deeming itself to have been sanctioned by God.

1. There were no excuses for Palestinian Christian and Muslim religion given. The legality of resistance to occupation and colonization is enshrined in international law:

"Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means,
including armed struggle;"


2. The Hamas Charter is no more representative than the Likud Charter.

1. Since when are acts of Islamic terrorism enshrined in any law?

2. As for Hamas, "yes" it is a violent Pal'istinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood birthed in the intifadah.

a) the example of Hamas in forcibly establishing Islamic law, as they interpret it upon the citizens of Gaza is antithetical to human rights.
b) their hate speech and calls for violence against "Jews"--not merely Israelis (and even that is a concern).
c) Hamas opposes peace negotiation with Israel, particularly any that includes Palestinian recognition of the State of Israel with normalization of relations between a proposed Palestinian State and Israel.
While touting democratic election, it staged a coup, killed Fatah opposition members and their families, and have forced their anti-democratic Islamic codes of contacts on Gazans.

Despite your false representation that that the Hamas Charter is no more representative than the Likud Charter, that also is a function of your islamist apologetics. The Hamas Charter has never been revised or rescinded and remains one of the most belligerent anti-Israel and even anti-Semitic documents of its type anywhere. It is for these reasons that Hamas similarly does not "play a significant role" in the quest to achieve a settlement between the Pal'istinians and Israel.

d) Hamas is sworn to the extermination of Israel per the Charter and they have murdered Israelis indiscriminately. There are no Jews living in lands under Hamas or Palestinian control.
Similarly, by justification of their Islamic ideology, they seek to establish a world under Islamic rule. They mass-murdered fellow Palestinians (e.g. Fatah) disloyal to their cause.

The Israelis have continually fought to keep from being exterminated.

They have a parliamentary democracy inclusive of Arab Israelis. Arab Israeli and Palestinian populations in Gaza and the West Bank have increased exponentially since the establishment of the State of Israel. Israeli Arabs have a higher standard of living per capita than Arabs elsewhere in the Arab world.

Similarly, by justification of democratic principles, Israel has formally recognized the Palestinians as a people with whom a diplomatic solution for the ultimate establishment of Palestinian autonomy (i.e. State) in the West Bank and Gaza must be achieved.

Israelis are fighting to survive and live adjacent to Palestinians.

Hamas is fighting to eliminate the Israelis.

Hamas is fighting to end the Israeli blockade/imprisonment.

Then why are the fighting from gaza that is not occupied

This is the post you are replying to....

"Hamas is fighting to end the Israeli blockade/imprisonment."

That's the answer to your post...

 

[Phoenall]

a united alliance of peace loving nations

Won't include Israel then....

And would the "united alliance of peace loving nations" be against ALL Muslims?

Of course not. Just against radical Islamists in all countries. Care to join in for peace?

I have never been against peace... Nor against the existence of Israel...

When are you going to join in for peace?

Your rather hypercritical belief that war and murder is ok on one hand and the call for peace in the same sentence is not a logical approach for peace...

When you are able to understand that then you can join in for peace.

When will you learn that demonising Israel in the same post you claim you don't shows you to be a Jew hater. We know you want Israel to be part of the Islamic waqf which is why you claim you are bot against its existence. The Palestinians have it in their hands to halt the deaths simply by accepting peace talks and negotiations on mutual borders.

If you insist upon reply for other people Phoney then at least try and read the post you are responding to!

I did and true to form you deflected, trolled and lied rather than stay on topic.

 

[Phoenall]

As noted, not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

I'm afraid once again that you see the promotion of Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism as an entitlement for adherents to an utterly hostile and belligerent politico-religious ideology.

So the Hamas Charter is not representative of the preferred allegiances of especially fanatical devotees of an especially inflexible politico-religious ideology, but the socio-political program of a hostile, gun-touting movement that seeks dominion over the entire globe deeming itself to have been sanctioned by God.

1. There were no excuses for Palestinian Christian and Muslim religion given. The legality of resistance to occupation and colonization is enshrined in international law:

"Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means,
including armed struggle;"


2. The Hamas Charter is no more representative than the Likud Charter.

1. Since when are acts of Islamic terrorism enshrined in any law?

2. As for Hamas, "yes" it is a violent Pal'istinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood birthed in the intifadah.

a) the example of Hamas in forcibly establishing Islamic law, as they interpret it upon the citizens of Gaza is antithetical to human rights.
b) their hate speech and calls for violence against "Jews"--not merely Israelis (and even that is a concern).
c) Hamas opposes peace negotiation with Israel, particularly any that includes Palestinian recognition of the State of Israel with normalization of relations between a proposed Palestinian State and Israel.
While touting democratic election, it staged a coup, killed Fatah opposition members and their families, and have forced their anti-democratic Islamic codes of contacts on Gazans.

Despite your false representation that that the Hamas Charter is no more representative than the Likud Charter, that also is a function of your islamist apologetics. The Hamas Charter has never been revised or rescinded and remains one of the most belligerent anti-Israel and even anti-Semitic documents of its type anywhere. It is for these reasons that Hamas similarly does not "play a significant role" in the quest to achieve a settlement between the Pal'istinians and Israel.

d) Hamas is sworn to the extermination of Israel per the Charter and they have murdered Israelis indiscriminately. There are no Jews living in lands under Hamas or Palestinian control.
Similarly, by justification of their Islamic ideology, they seek to establish a world under Islamic rule. They mass-murdered fellow Palestinians (e.g. Fatah) disloyal to their cause.

The Israelis have continually fought to keep from being exterminated.

They have a parliamentary democracy inclusive of Arab Israelis. Arab Israeli and Palestinian populations in Gaza and the West Bank have increased exponentially since the establishment of the State of Israel. Israeli Arabs have a higher standard of living per capita than Arabs elsewhere in the Arab world.

Similarly, by justification of democratic principles, Israel has formally recognized the Palestinians as a people with whom a diplomatic solution for the ultimate establishment of Palestinian autonomy (i.e. State) in the West Bank and Gaza must be achieved.

Israelis are fighting to survive and live adjacent to Palestinians.

Hamas is fighting to eliminate the Israelis.

Hamas is fighting to end the Israeli blockade/imprisonment.

Then why are the fighting from gaza that is not occupied

This is the post you are replying to....

"Hamas is fighting to end the Israeli blockade/imprisonment."

That's the answer to your post...

Read their charter and see what they are fighting for

 

[MJB12741]

Normally, wars are fought by armies of uniformed soldiers. The Pal'istanian Islamic terrorists refuse to wear identifiable uniforms.

Israel is not occupying a population as it applies to the Islamic terrorists in Gaza.

Not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

Of course Israel is occupying Gaza, as all the parties agree, the U.S. included. Holding a population within an area of land, controlling exit and entry, and bombing and entering the place to perform periodic massacres of thousands of women and children is occupation.

As noted, not a single one of your excuses for Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism holds up.

I'm afraid once again that you see the promotion of Pal'istanian Islamic terrorism as an entitlement for adherents to an utterly hostile and belligerent politico-religious ideology.

So the Hamas Charter is not representative of the preferred allegiances of especially fanatical devotees of an especially inflexible politico-religious ideology, but the socio-political program of a hostile, gun-touting movement that seeks dominion over the entire globe deeming itself to have been sanctioned by God.

1. There were no excuses for Palestinian Christian and Muslim religion given. The legality of resistance to occupation and colonization is enshrined in international law:

"Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means,
including armed struggle;"


2. The Hamas Charter is no more representative than the Likud Charter.

1. Since when are acts of Islamic terrorism enshrined in any law?

2. As for Hamas, "yes" it is a violent Pal'istinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood birthed in the intifadah.

a) the example of Hamas in forcibly establishing Islamic law, as they interpret it upon the citizens of Gaza is antithetical to human rights.
b) their hate speech and calls for violence against "Jews"--not merely Israelis (and even that is a concern).
c) Hamas opposes peace negotiation with Israel, particularly any that includes Palestinian recognition of the State of Israel with normalization of relations between a proposed Palestinian State and Israel.
While touting democratic election, it staged a coup, killed Fatah opposition members and their families, and have forced their anti-democratic Islamic codes of contacts on Gazans.

Despite your false representation that that the Hamas Charter is no more representative than the Likud Charter, that also is a function of your islamist apologetics. The Hamas Charter has never been revised or rescinded and remains one of the most belligerent anti-Israel and even anti-Semitic documents of its type anywhere. It is for these reasons that Hamas similarly does not "play a significant role" in the quest to achieve a settlement between the Pal'istinians and Israel.

d) Hamas is sworn to the extermination of Israel per the Charter and they have murdered Israelis indiscriminately. There are no Jews living in lands under Hamas or Palestinian control.
Similarly, by justification of their Islamic ideology, they seek to establish a world under Islamic rule. They mass-murdered fellow Palestinians (e.g. Fatah) disloyal to their cause.

The Israelis have continually fought to keep from being exterminated.

They have a parliamentary democracy inclusive of Arab Israelis. Arab Israeli and Palestinian populations in Gaza and the West Bank have increased exponentially since the establishment of the State of Israel. Israeli Arabs have a higher standard of living per capita than Arabs elsewhere in the Arab world.

Similarly, by justification of democratic principles, Israel has formally recognized the Palestinians as a people with whom a diplomatic solution for the ultimate establishment of Palestinian autonomy (i.e. State) in the West Bank and Gaza must be achieved.

Israelis are fighting to survive and live adjacent to Palestinians.

Hamas is fighting to eliminate the Israelis.

Hamas is fighting to end the Israeli blockade/imprisonment.

Eh, Monte, for your education Palestinians are growing increasingly upset with Hamas for their war crimes against the Palestinians. Some Pali supporters here have claimed Israel created Hamas. If so, great move Israel.

Gazans Speak Out: Hamas War Crimes