Egypt is thoroughly pissed at Palestinians. Floods the tunnels with sea water making wells unusable

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The Israelis probably knew this trick, but through jewish obtuseness refused to do it.

Egypt has had it with the palestinians and just plain doesn't care. I am with the egyptians on this


"GAZA - Mahmoud Bakeer speaks with despair about the night of the flash flood, when he screamed at his wife and five children to flee their home on Gaza's border with Egypt as the water rushed in.

They made it to safety during the flooding last week, but a network of Palestinian tunnels running under the frontier town of Rafah is now water-logged, destroyed by Cairo to sever what it says is a weapons smuggling route out of Gaza for Islamist insurgents in Egypt's Sinai desert.

For Bakeer, 61, the fact that Egypt, once a gateway to the world for Gaza's 1.8 million Palestinians, was behind his family's suffering, was particularly painful.

"We respect our neighbors, we love Egypt, but our neighbors are making our life harder," he said in his one-story unfinished cinder block house, around which water seeps and cracks in the ground are growing wider.

Egypt's pumping of salt water from the nearby Mediterranean into the tunnels is not only creating a mess as it rises to the surface. Palestinian officials say it is also contaminating water supplies as well as threatening to wreck farmland and spread disease.

Local residents say that at the peak of the tunnel business, after Hamas Islamists seized the Gaza Strip in 2007 and Israel tightened a closure of its crossings into the enclave, nearly 2,500 underground passages snaked under the border with Egypt.

The direction of traffic was mainly into Gaza. Commercial goods - and weapons smuggled in separate tunnels controlled by Hamas and other militant factions - flowed in defiance of what Palestinians and many of their supporters decried as neighboring Israel's siege.

In 2008-10, some tunnel owners were said to have become dollar millionaires as they shifted everything from Hummer vehicles and washing machines to cows and sheep through the underground system. Hamas imposed a tax on shipments.

At one point an estimated 22,000 Palestinians worked in the tunnel "industry". However, it shrank markedly in 2010 after Israel, under international pressure to ease restrictions on commercial imports into Gaza, allowed more goods in through its overland crossings.

Then this September, battling an insurgency in northern Sinai, Egypt decided to shut down the tunnels once and for all. Determined to halt what it said was an arms flow in the opposite direction, from Gaza to the militants, it cleared the area on its side of the border and began pumping water into the underground maze, collapsing the land.

Tunnel-builders said Egypt has pumped in water several times since September, and that over the course of a few weeks had done more damage to the network, which once accounted for an estimated 30 percent of Gaza's imports, than Israeli bombing had caused over the past two decades.

Now, the diggers said, fewer than 20 tunnels remain for commercial goods, with easy-to-smuggle cigarettes the main contraband. No one can, or will, say how many weapons tunnels remain - a secret that is guarded by Hamas and other armed groups, which last fought a war with Israel in 2014.

MUDDY MESS

What is left is an environmental mess, residents and local officials said, with the sea water polluting underground drinking reserves. The overflow has reached streets and homes within 100 meters (yards) of the border fence. Vast puddles and mud are everywhere.

"One cubic meter of sea water pollutes 40 cubic meters of underground water," said Tamer al-Sleibi, water department director in the Palestinian Environment Quality Authority in Gaza, who is concerned about long-term environmental damage.

Egypt's campaign, he said, could weaken the foundations of homes already on shaky ground due to tunnel-building and make land unfit for agriculture in areas near the frontier. There is also a health risk as the water turns stagnant, allowing mosquitoes and other disease carriers to breed.

Rafah Mayor Subhy Rudwan said the six wells that serve the city of 230,000 are threatened with contamination. "We are monitoring the situation along the border closely and we have noticed some collapses of ground in some areas," he said.

Last Friday, Rudwan said, Egyptian forces pumped in sea water from morning to night. "If they continue to do it, the lives and residence of people in the border area will be in danger, and they might be forced to quit their houses. We have appealed to Egypt to stop the flooding," he said.

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The Israelis probably knew this trick, but through jewish obtuseness refused to do it.

Egypt has had it with the palestinians and just plain doesn't care. I am with the egyptians on this


"GAZA - Mahmoud Bakeer speaks with despair about the night of the flash flood, when he screamed at his wife and five children to flee their home on Gaza's border with Egypt as the water rushed in.

They made it to safety during the flooding last week, but a network of Palestinian tunnels running under the frontier town of Rafah is now water-logged, destroyed by Cairo to sever what it says is a weapons smuggling route out of Gaza for Islamist insurgents in Egypt's Sinai desert.

For Bakeer, 61, the fact that Egypt, once a gateway to the world for Gaza's 1.8 million Palestinians, was behind his family's suffering, was particularly painful.

"We respect our neighbors, we love Egypt, but our neighbors are making our life harder," he said in his one-story unfinished cinder block house, around which water seeps and cracks in the ground are growing wider.

Egypt's pumping of salt water from the nearby Mediterranean into the tunnels is not only creating a mess as it rises to the surface. Palestinian officials say it is also contaminating water supplies as well as threatening to wreck farmland and spread disease.

Local residents say that at the peak of the tunnel business, after Hamas Islamists seized the Gaza Strip in 2007 and Israel tightened a closure of its crossings into the enclave, nearly 2,500 underground passages snaked under the border with Egypt.

The direction of traffic was mainly into Gaza. Commercial goods - and weapons smuggled in separate tunnels controlled by Hamas and other militant factions - flowed in defiance of what Palestinians and many of their supporters decried as neighboring Israel's siege.

In 2008-10, some tunnel owners were said to have become dollar millionaires as they shifted everything from Hummer vehicles and washing machines to cows and sheep through the underground system. Hamas imposed a tax on shipments.

At one point an estimated 22,000 Palestinians worked in the tunnel "industry". However, it shrank markedly in 2010 after Israel, under international pressure to ease restrictions on commercial imports into Gaza, allowed more goods in through its overland crossings.

Then this September, battling an insurgency in northern Sinai, Egypt decided to shut down the tunnels once and for all. Determined to halt what it said was an arms flow in the opposite direction, from Gaza to the militants, it cleared the area on its side of the border and began pumping water into the underground maze, collapsing the land.

Tunnel-builders said Egypt has pumped in water several times since September, and that over the course of a few weeks had done more damage to the network, which once accounted for an estimated 30 percent of Gaza's imports, than Israeli bombing had caused over the past two decades.

Now, the diggers said, fewer than 20 tunnels remain for commercial goods, with easy-to-smuggle cigarettes the main contraband. No one can, or will, say how many weapons tunnels remain - a secret that is guarded by Hamas and other armed groups, which last fought a war with Israel in 2014.

MUDDY MESS

What is left is an environmental mess, residents and local officials said, with the sea water polluting underground drinking reserves. The overflow has reached streets and homes within 100 meters (yards) of the border fence. Vast puddles and mud are everywhere.

"One cubic meter of sea water pollutes 40 cubic meters of underground water," said Tamer al-Sleibi, water department director in the Palestinian Environment Quality Authority in Gaza, who is concerned about long-term environmental damage.

Egypt's campaign, he said, could weaken the foundations of homes already on shaky ground due to tunnel-building and make land unfit for agriculture in areas near the frontier. There is also a health risk as the water turns stagnant, allowing mosquitoes and other disease carriers to breed.

Rafah Mayor Subhy Rudwan said the six wells that serve the city of 230,000 are threatened with contamination. "We are monitoring the situation along the border closely and we have noticed some collapses of ground in some areas," he said.

Last Friday, Rudwan said, Egyptian forces pumped in sea water from morning to night. "If they continue to do it, the lives and residence of people in the border area will be in danger, and they might be forced to quit their houses. We have appealed to Egypt to stop the flooding," he said.

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As with all the nations of origin of the Pal'istanian beggars and squatters, Egypt has had a contentious relationship with the Pali terrorists. As with Jordan and Syria, there is s recognition of the political and financial liability posed by the serial, Pal'istanian welfare cheats.
 
The Israelis probably knew this trick, but through jewish obtuseness refused to do it.

Egypt has had it with the palestinians and just plain doesn't care. I am with the egyptians on this


"GAZA - Mahmoud Bakeer speaks with despair about the night of the flash flood, when he screamed at his wife and five children to flee their home on Gaza's border with Egypt as the water rushed in.

They made it to safety during the flooding last week, but a network of Palestinian tunnels running under the frontier town of Rafah is now water-logged, destroyed by Cairo to sever what it says is a weapons smuggling route out of Gaza for Islamist insurgents in Egypt's Sinai desert.

For Bakeer, 61, the fact that Egypt, once a gateway to the world for Gaza's 1.8 million Palestinians, was behind his family's suffering, was particularly painful.

"We respect our neighbors, we love Egypt, but our neighbors are making our life harder," he said in his one-story unfinished cinder block house, around which water seeps and cracks in the ground are growing wider.

Egypt's pumping of salt water from the nearby Mediterranean into the tunnels is not only creating a mess as it rises to the surface. Palestinian officials say it is also contaminating water supplies as well as threatening to wreck farmland and spread disease.

Local residents say that at the peak of the tunnel business, after Hamas Islamists seized the Gaza Strip in 2007 and Israel tightened a closure of its crossings into the enclave, nearly 2,500 underground passages snaked under the border with Egypt.

The direction of traffic was mainly into Gaza. Commercial goods - and weapons smuggled in separate tunnels controlled by Hamas and other militant factions - flowed in defiance of what Palestinians and many of their supporters decried as neighboring Israel's siege.

In 2008-10, some tunnel owners were said to have become dollar millionaires as they shifted everything from Hummer vehicles and washing machines to cows and sheep through the underground system. Hamas imposed a tax on shipments.

At one point an estimated 22,000 Palestinians worked in the tunnel "industry". However, it shrank markedly in 2010 after Israel, under international pressure to ease restrictions on commercial imports into Gaza, allowed more goods in through its overland crossings.

Then this September, battling an insurgency in northern Sinai, Egypt decided to shut down the tunnels once and for all. Determined to halt what it said was an arms flow in the opposite direction, from Gaza to the militants, it cleared the area on its side of the border and began pumping water into the underground maze, collapsing the land.

Tunnel-builders said Egypt has pumped in water several times since September, and that over the course of a few weeks had done more damage to the network, which once accounted for an estimated 30 percent of Gaza's imports, than Israeli bombing had caused over the past two decades.

Now, the diggers said, fewer than 20 tunnels remain for commercial goods, with easy-to-smuggle cigarettes the main contraband. No one can, or will, say how many weapons tunnels remain - a secret that is guarded by Hamas and other armed groups, which last fought a war with Israel in 2014.

MUDDY MESS

What is left is an environmental mess, residents and local officials said, with the sea water polluting underground drinking reserves. The overflow has reached streets and homes within 100 meters (yards) of the border fence. Vast puddles and mud are everywhere.

"One cubic meter of sea water pollutes 40 cubic meters of underground water," said Tamer al-Sleibi, water department director in the Palestinian Environment Quality Authority in Gaza, who is concerned about long-term environmental damage.

Egypt's campaign, he said, could weaken the foundations of homes already on shaky ground due to tunnel-building and make land unfit for agriculture in areas near the frontier. There is also a health risk as the water turns stagnant, allowing mosquitoes and other disease carriers to breed.

Rafah Mayor Subhy Rudwan said the six wells that serve the city of 230,000 are threatened with contamination. "We are monitoring the situation along the border closely and we have noticed some collapses of ground in some areas," he said.

Last Friday, Rudwan said, Egyptian forces pumped in sea water from morning to night. "If they continue to do it, the lives and residence of people in the border area will be in danger, and they might be forced to quit their houses. We have appealed to Egypt to stop the flooding," he said.

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Isn't this old news, please supply link to article.
 
Third or fourth time they have done this now.

Tunnels are illegal and Palestinians need to stop the smuggling and terrorism via tunnels.

Maybe they should gas with skunk the tunnels and plug them from the egyptian side
 
Tunnels are illegal and Palestinians need to stop the smuggling and terrorism via tunnels.
Who made the Gaza tunnels illegal?.......the Israeli prison guards?? ........ :cool:

International border and gaza illegally entering Egypt. No tunnels not authorized by both sides, and with proper identification and travel documents on both sides.
Gaza had not right or authorization to dig the tunnels. Egypt had blow up the tunnels, filled them in, and flooded them with water. Egypt does not want illegal access into their country from gaza.

Every country has a right to control their borders, especially against smugglers and terrorists. Egypt has closed its crossings for good reason and they don't want gaza tunnels going under those closed crossings. Gazans can cross when Egypt opens its gates for a day or so, if they have the right paperwork.

As long as gazans try to dig tunnels Egypt will keep destroying them.

Tunnels are illegal. Passing under the Philadelphi corridor is a violation of Oslo and enters not just Egypt land but Israeli as well.

If Egypt want the gazans the gates would stay open, but they don't.

Egypt and gaza are not like EU nations, they don't have open borders. Gaza is not a state and does not have an agreement with Egypt.
 
Egypt and gaza are not like EU nations, they don't have open borders. Gaza is not a state and does not have an agreement with Egypt.
Thus the tunnels are not illegal........Thanks ...... :thup:







Ummmm, if they weren't illegal....why have them? If what they are transporting is legal i would think they would just walk it across in the open air. Now if you are admitting that they are using the tunnels to bring in contraband then guess what.... The tunnels are ILLEGAL!

See how that works....
 
Egypt and gaza are not like EU nations, they don't have open borders. Gaza is not a state and does not have an agreement with Egypt.
Thus the tunnels are not illegal........Thanks ...... :thup:

They enter Egypt without permission and cross the Philadelphi corridor.

Illegal.

If Egypt wanted gaza going freely they'd leave the crossing open. Egypt does not want the gazans coming and going and they certainly don't want them smuggling. Egypt is protecting itself.
If gaza wants to negotiate with Egypt they should do so though the PA.

Egypt has a right to deny gazans entry to their country. They have a right to control their borders.
 
The Palestinian people imprisoned by the Israeli's in the worlds largest open air prison camp called Gaza.

Have the right to supply themselves with items for survival regardless of what Egypt thinks about the issue. ....... :cool:
 
Ummmm, if they weren't illegal....why have them? If what they are transporting is legal i would think they would just walk it across in the open air. Now if you are admitting that they are using the tunnels to bring in contraband then guess what.... The tunnels are ILLEGAL!
Why this isn't obvious to everyone is a mystery. The pro palli level of obtuseness is 178*
 
The Palestinian people imprisoned by the Israeli's in the worlds largest open air prison camp called Gaza.

Have the right to supply themselves with items for survival regardless of what Egypt thinks about the issue. ....... :cool:

gaza has to deal with the PA. As long as gaza promotes violence Israel and Egypt can close their borders to them.
If gaza need something they can ask the PA for it. There are hundreds of truck with supplies, much of it hamas won't distribute or they hijack the items.
Right now good are coming and going thru Israel, so why the tunnels to Egypt?

As long as there is violence, Israel has a right to blockade certain good from reaching gaza. If Egypt want gaza to have items, they would leave the crossing open. Most of the countries that used to promise aid to gaza has stopped. They have closed their bankbooks.

smuggling is illegal
 
The illegitimate Egyptian government is currently in the pocket of the Israeli criminal cabal.

Hopefully, the Egyptian people will soon rise up and overthrow their despotic puppet rulers and install an Islamic government which is friendly to the downtrodden Palestinians. ....... :cool:
 
The illegitimate Egyptian government is currently in the pocket of the Israeli criminal cabal.

Hopefully, the Egyptian people will soon rise up and overthrow their despotic puppet rulers and install an Islamic government which is friendly to the downtrodden Palestinians. ....... :cool:

Sisi is sunni
You would rather see a pro-shiite, pro MB instead?
 
Sisi is just your run of the mill Egyptian military dictator. There have been a few. Russian puppets or U.S.puppets. The only democratically elected government in Egypt's history was usurped by Sisi. Sisi will remain in power until the next military dictator comes along.
 
The Palestinian people imprisoned by the Israeli's in the worlds largest open air prison camp called Gaza. Have the right to supply themselves with items for survival regardless of what Egypt thinks about the issue.
Gazabadians have "survivalist" shopping malls for all their "survival" needs, of course.
 
Sisi is just your run of the mill Egyptian military dictator. There have been a few. Russian puppets or U.S.puppets. The only democratically elected government in Egypt's history was usurped by Sisi. Sisi will remain in power until the next military dictator comes along.
Until arabs wise up to democracy, of course.
 
The Palestinian people imprisoned by the Israeli's in the worlds largest open air prison camp called Gaza. Have the right to supply themselves with items for survival regardless of what Egypt thinks about the issue.
Gazabadians have "survivalist" shopping malls for all their "survival" needs, of course.

Just like the Jews, Roma and Communists could use the canteens, brothel and stores at Auschwitz?


 

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