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Agent P
If you're a Republican, it begins at conception. If you're a Democrat, it begins when the baby is born, unless it was a failed abortion attempt in which case it's okay to kill the 'fetus'.
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Ever read or studied any of it PeterS? If not, STFU and go in the corner, because you've obviously got a closed mind as reflected in this post.
I would like everyone's opinion on when they think a human life begins and why they hold that position.
Thank you all.
If you're a Republican, it begins at conception. If you're a Democrat, it begins when the baby is born, unless it was a failed abortion attempt in which case it's okay to kill the 'fetus'.
Any belief in the supernatural is irrational. I do not need to study it to know that it lacks rational proof and the fact that it lacks rational proof means to know truth. If I am being open minded how on earth can I embrace truth when it is devoid of all rational proof. I can only embrace your view if I close my mind and there is nothing in your torah that I find worth that high a price.
No, if a human egg is fertilized by more than one sperm, as happens infrequently, it will develop very weirdly for a while, then abort.
Is it alive? Is it human? Is it a person?
When does your birth certificate say you were born? Then.
Until we start caring about the born, screw worrying about this. People are starving all over the world. Where is the conversation about that? Do you care because those lives are sufering. Was iraq really worth a million lives? Some estimate the numbers could be that high.
If you value life, you wouldn't be focused on the unborn. You'd worry about human suffering.
And doesn't god give us free will? You can choose to be moral or you can choose not to believe.
Just like you don't worry about what they do in china or mexico or canada, don't worry about me and my body. You can voice your opinion but ultimately its my choice.
Okay Cali, lemmie ask ya a question.....
Since you believe in the egg being a human, and you believe in a sperm being a human, and since it's illegal to kill humans, does this mean that dudes who beat off should be sent to prison for mass murder?
"There is a principle which can never fail to hold a man in everlasting ignorance, and that principle is contempt prior to investigation".
So, I suppose that you're an atheist? Remember dude.....they told a couple of bike mechanics named Wright that they would never fly either, because it went against rational thought.
An atheist does not believe in god. How can I believe or not believe in that with I cannot prove exists? And Man delivers the irrational into the rational all the time--it's called science. If you have a proof for god based on scientific method then fine but you cannot use the torah because it is based on myth and a belief in the supernatural. What else you got. I'm all ears...
Has science ever proved something that wasn't already the truth ?
How do you know I don't care about what happens in China, Mexico, or Canada? Because I ask a question about when life begins? Using your line of reasoning, if you have ever cared about anything, besides human life, and focused on it for more than 15 minutes, you would not value human life.
Nope. Your point?
Did you ever post anything about starving kids in africa? My point is that this is a political wedge issue that should not be discussed. just like your religion is personal and sacred to you, so is having an abortion.
fact is, many anti abortion people have actually had abortions themselves and the guilt is eating them up. Look at born agains. Most of them were really bad before they found god. So they go around assuming everyone else is as fucked up as they were before they found god. and their religion tells them that us non born again christians all have it wrong.
Well I feel they have it all wrong. God doesn't care as much about abortion as he does racism or not dealing with poverty or global warming or war. Those are the things you should be focused on And if your daughter gets knocked up, you can be pro life. If you won't give poor women welfare so they can raise those kids right, then your first priority should be eliminating poverty, not banning abortions. Its a necessary evil.
that's it. Prior to being pronounced true by scientific method it was also true.
That and the fact that science is constantly having to say " ooops--we thought that it was true but guess what? It ain't "
that's it. Prior to being pronounced true by scientific method it was also true.That and the fact that science is constantly having to say " ooops--we thought that it was true but guess what? It ain't "
So? I don't get your point. If I glued feathers to my arms and flapped like a bird would I have just proved Mans ability to fly just as the Wrights did? After all flight is a absolute Truth correct? Both the irrational and rational can be true but it is only when we delve into the rational that Man can prove truth.
I haven't heard that spin before but me likey.
Maybe that's why the priests said masturbation was a sin eh?
If I really had to draw a line in the sand it would be biologically based: Abortion is unethical once the fetus feels pain which cannot happen before a nervous system develops. So, abortion prior to nervous system development would be relatively OK as far as the fetus is concerned but after not at all.