Whats wrong with Newt Gingrich's immigration stance?

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  1. Grampa Murked U
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    “I am not for amnesty for 11 million people. I’m actually not for amnesty for anyone. I’m not for a path to citizenship for any people who are out here illegally, ” Gingrich said forcefully at a town hall event in Naples, Florida. “But I am for a path to legality for those people whose ties run so deeply in America that it would truly be a tragedy to try and rip their family apart.”

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    Is there actually anyone here who would deport a 30 year old who has been here since he was 3?


    Seriously
     
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    It doesn't make sense to take a stand that your base will rail against. Repubs hate this idea.
     
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    It's a reasonable and moderate solution to a terribly large and complicated problem. I fail to see why anyone, including the gop wouldn't accept it. The solution doesn't help either party over the other. It would bring tax revenue out from under the black market. It could prevent crimes from going unpunished thus not leaving criminals roaming the streets.
    I just don't see the downside unless we don't lock the border down. Not to mention it could help increase payscales in the agriculture and construction industries.
     
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    So no one has a problem with it? That's good to know.
     
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    So we'll see, won't we, where the base actually stands on this - in Iowa, New Hampshire, S.C., and Florida....

    Personally I think the base wants it resolved, done with, caput.
     
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    He had 27 years to apply for citizenship. His problem.
     
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    yes I think there are...as crazy as that sounds. Newt's point was that if you've been a law-abiding citizen (other than immigration status), have roots here, and have been a beneficial part of society-you should not be deported, and he's 100% right.
     
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    Right, and hope he wasn't deported for showing his face. Or should he have applied when he was 9? Or better yet when he was 5.
     
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    Gingrich using the sanctity of the family to rationalize the "inhumanity" of not rewarding lawbreakers who disrespect U.S. sovereignty with a free pass & squater's rights.

    Gingrich is a long time proponent of amnesty for illegals, high levels of chain migration, & unlimited Green Card distribution throughout Latin America. Gingrich voted for the 1986 amnesty bill.

    "Get here, Stay here" has been Gingrich's bottom line for decades.
     
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    Attrition Through Enforcement Is the True Middle-ground Solution

    The open borders crowd constantly tell the American people that there are only two solutions to our nation's illegal alien crisis – give illegal aliens amnesty or round them up and deport them. This is a diversionary tactic to draw public attention away from the most effective and efficient solution – Attrition Through Enforcement.

    The principle behind Attrition Through Enforcement is that living illegally in the United States will become more difficult and less satisfying over time when the government – at ALL LEVELS – enforces all of the laws already on the books. It is also imperative that the government with the full cooperation of the private sector, implements certain workplace enforcement measures. The goal is to make it extremely difficult for unauthorized persons to live and work in the United States. There is no need for taxpayers to watch the government spend billions of their dollars to round up and deport illegal aliens; they will buy their own bus or plane tickets back home if they can no longer earn a living here.

    We know Attrition Through Enforcement will work because, until recently, it has been shown to work even with little or no enforcement. As it currently stands, almost 200,000 illegal aliens self-deport from the United States every year, but imagine how many more would leave if our government refused to award illegal aliens another amnesty, mandated all employers to verify a person’s eligibility to work here, cracked down on identity fraud, and enabled local police to easily transfer illegal aliens in their custody to the feds.
     

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