What's the capital of Israel?

[buckeye45_73]

Because ownership of Jerusalem is in dispute, dumbass, and we can't see being a fair broker if we take sides in that dispute.

Eventually, Israel is going to have to give parts of Jerusalem back to the Arabs.

You don't think the US should take sides in a dispute between a group of terrorists and a friendly ally?

seems like to me that, before israel became a state, we didn't really have any enemies in the mideast and the only "terrorists" (i don't like that word) as you call them, were blowing up the british army headquarters in a hotel in al quds. i believe it was that same group that blew up the SS Patria, a refugee boat boat filled with jews, their own people, in jaffa harbour.

now, if you are concerned about allies, we would have plenty more if we dropped israel like a hot potato. i bet the "terrorist" label would be on the other foot too.

So what I dont like homosexuality, it doesnt mean I'm blowing them up or dragging them from cars. Israel is where it is, people need to get over it.

 

[buckeye45_73]

the question was improper and impolite and designed to trash obama needlessly. it embarrassed the office of the presidency on what is sure to be an international stage. furthermore, the jewish woman (BBC News America) knew the answer to the question and jay carney correctly stated the answer.

not one single president since truman has recognised al quds/jerusalem as the capital of israel. before truman, it was not a state. the fate of al quds/jerusalem is rightfully relegated to the final status negotiations. israel has consistently refused to negotiate that final status on some pretext or another since what seems like forever. some are fooled. i am not. the reason for such delay is to build more settlements on the west bank and erase any possibility of a viable palestinian state.

now i a going to sat something, and i am sure every single one of you will disagree with me. i imagine you have already. what i have said above is genocide according to the 1948 UN convention on the prevention and punishment of the crime of genocide, whose signatories include the USA and israel.

history will record that. i do not want this country, that i served in the u.s. army in the sixties and that my son is serving now in the u.s. navy, to be any way complicit in such atrocities. this is no time to continue playing politics with the lives of israeli and palestinian children at stake.

only two countries around the world recognise al quds/jerusalem as the capital of israel, el salvador and guatamala.

The White House press briefing is not an international stage. Follow up questions to announcements that the US is expanding its ties with Israel seem like a perfectly normal portion of the press briefing, even if the lefties on this forum think otherwise.

if the whole world is watching, and you are kidding yourself if you do not think the whole world is watching that, then i think that is an international stage.

asking a question that you know the answer to is not a perfectly normal question. it is pursuing an agenda, and you are kidding yourself again if you think she did not know the answer. she asked the question to embarrass president obama. an honest question would have been "is the white house going to continue to maintain the position that the status of jerusalem be determined by the peace negotiations?" i am quite sure jay carney could have answered that with "the white house's position since the time of truman is that the status of jerusalem was to be determined by negotiation and we see no reason to change that position at this time."

it is not an "either-or" question.

i am neither a lefty or righty. i throw right, bat both...pulling the ball when i bat right and hitting where the ball is pitched when i bat left. ricky henderson was an oddity, throwing let and batting right.

i will say this though. from looking at things generally, the lefties seem a lot more calm and rational than the righties, not to mentioned better inormed.

Yeah another independant....sure ya are.....Occupy Wallstreet was neither calm nor rational, yet the teaparties have no rape, shitting on streets or any civil diobedience......hmmmmmm

 

[hjmick]

Dang... I started a thread on this yesterday and it didn't do nearly this well...

 

[buckeye45_73]

You said land was GIVEN. PAST TENSE. Show me where. I was just suggesting a possibility, i.e. hasn't happened yet. Don't try and squirm out of this by claiming some sort of equivalency!

Land for peace - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

if i steal a hundred dollars out of your pocket and then, for whatever reason, i decide to return it, that doesn't count as me giving you a hundred dollars.

How did they steal land, Israel was attacked by 6 arab countries, kicked their ass and kept some of the land. DONT fuck with them or they get to keep the treasure.....

 

[Billo_Really]

You are extremely confused. It's the Arabs that invaded Israel in 1948.


Try googling King David.

WTF are you talking about?

It wasn't muslims who bombed that hotel!

 

[CMike]

You are extremely confused. It's the Arabs that invaded Israel in 1948.


Try googling King David.

WTF are you talking about?

It wasn't muslims who bombed that hotel!

Did I mention the hotel?

King David as in the actual King David.

Israel existed long before the jordanian occupiers.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Dang... I started a thread on this yesterday and it didn't do nearly this well...

I know the feeling.

 

[Billo_Really]

Did I mention the hotel?

King David as in the actual King David.

Israel existed long before the jordanian occupiers.

Sorry, my bad.

 

[buckeye45_73]

You are extremely confused. It's the Arabs that invaded Israel in 1948.


Try googling King David.

WTF are you talking about?

It wasn't muslims who bombed that hotel!

Did I mention the hotel?

King David as in the actual King David.

Israel existed long before the jordanian occupiers.

No, they wouldnt know who he is. Probably never heard of Moses, or they call him a racist, zionist, religious nut.

 

[Billo_Really]

No, they wouldnt know who he is. Probably never heard of Moses, or they call him a racist, zionist, religious nut.

I've heard of Moses.

He was the center for the Philidelphia 76ers.

 

[CMike]

Did I mention the hotel?

King David as in the actual King David.

Israel existed long before the jordanian occupiers.

Sorry, my bad.

No problem.

 

[francoHFW]

Is that East Jerusalem or West? It's a little complicated...It's just about time to buy them all off again, a la Camp David...

 

[buckeye45_73]

Is that East Jerusalem or West? It's a little complicated...It's just about time to buy them all off again, a la Camp David...

Pretty sure the map says Jerusalem.....it's not a difficult question to answer, unless you're friends of terrorists like the PLA, Hezbollah and Hamas

 

[francoHFW]

Life is so simple...for simpletons.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Life is so simple...for simpletons.

And difficult for morons.

 

[francoHFW]

West Jerusalem is part of Israel- The rest is not recognized as theirs by the world. Old Jerusalem (0.35 sq. miles) is holy to 3 Religions. If you want this mess to last forever, give in to Israel RWers.

I suggest buying them all off, give E.J. to the Palestinians, etc, and make Old Jerusalem into a theme park run by Laplanders...

This tiny part of the world should not be allowed to wreck the rest of it any longer..

 

[Too Tall]

obama's official policy is that the capital of Israel is Tel Aviv. That's why Carney wouldn't answer the question. He only said that the regime's position hasn't changed, and it hasn't. obama still denies that the capital of Israel is Jerusalem.

Play the video on post #49 and see if you can still say that.

 

[Too Tall]

Land for peace - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

if i steal a hundred dollars out of your pocket and then, for whatever reason, i decide to return it, that doesn't count as me giving you a hundred dollars.

If I have a house and my neighbors move their deadbeat relatives into my basement and then insist they own the house it doesn't mean they own the house.

See, I can throw analogies around too, mine are just a little closer to the truth than yours.

I dare you to find some before and after pictures of Israel, lets say 1948 and 1998. Then we can discuss what deadbeat means.

 

[Too Tall]

I never knew there was an international problem with their capital till this post, and thats totally why obamas guy wouldnt answer the question. Thanks for the thread, it brought something to my attention that i didnt know. He should have said what side obama was, but they are too scared to be firm. Socialism first, truth last.

the question was improper and impolite and designed to trash obama needlessly. it embarrassed the office of the presidency on what is sure to be an international stage. furthermore, the jewish woman (BBC News America) knew the answer to the question and jay carney correctly stated the answer.

not one single president since truman has recognised al quds/jerusalem as the capital of israel. before truman, it was not a state. the fate of al quds/jerusalem is rightfully relegated to the final status negotiations. israel has consistently refused to negotiate that final status on some pretext or another since what seems like forever. some are fooled. i am not. the reason for such delay is to build more settlements on the west bank and erase any possibility of a viable palestinian state.

now i a going to sat something, and i am sure every single one of you will disagree with me. i imagine you have already. what i have said above is genocide according to the 1948 UN convention on the prevention and punishment of the crime of genocide, whose signatories include the USA and israel.

history will record that. i do not want this country, that i served in the u.s. army in the sixties and that my son is serving now in the u.s. navy, to be any way complicit in such atrocities. this is no time to continue playing politics with the lives of israeli and palestinian children at stake.

only two countries around the world recognise al quds/jerusalem as the capital of israel, el salvador and guatamala.

Watch the video on post #49 and see the similarity to these remarks by GW Bush.

Candidate George W. Bush on Israel
(May 22, 2000)

In recent times, Washington has tried to make Israel conform to its own plans and timetables; but this is not the path to peace. A clear and bad example was the administration's attempt to take sides in the most recent Israeli election. America should not interfere in Israel's democratic process. And America will not interfere in Israeli elections when I am the president. But something will happen when I become the president. As soon as I take office, I will begin the process of moving the United States ambassador to the city Israel has chosen as its capital....
Candidate George W. Bush on Israel

 

[francoHFW]

How'd he work out? Pubs suq at foreign policy...and domestic...