What Will be the Impacts of the Collapse of Mainstream Protestant Denominations?

[JimBowie1958]

This nation was founded by Anglicans, and when the Revolution was successful they formally broke from the national church of England and became Episcopalians. And the sister denominations (Presbyterians, Methodists, Lutherans, Northern Baptists, etc) that are clerically tied to the Episcopalian church in the US are collapsing also, given the Marxist rot that infects the clergy of all these denominations.

So what happens when the most powerful Establishment denominations collapse in this way?

They get replaced by a) coalitions of other denominations, b) ideological systems, c) Apatheists.

Of course the number one ideology that falls into both b) and c) is the ideological poison of Marxism, and I think the popularity of 'Socialism' as a word if not an actual economic system is also rising as a result.

How will this impact the US if a coalition of Catholic traditionalists, Evangelicals, and Pentecostals replace the Mainstream denominations? I think we are already seeing this in the Trump ascendance.

It seems pretty clear that Mainstream Protestants are cold on Trump while the rest of organized Christianity seems to be sliding into supporting him if they did not already do so.

Note that this chart does not cover the pentecostal movement which is lead by the Assemblies of God in numerical terms and accounts for about 10% of the total US population and continues to grow.

But thhe real question here is that the religiously unaffiliated seem to be mostly main stream Protestants that are socially replacing Main Stream Protestants across the nation.

This is a huge social change and I see little discussion or reflective thought regarding it.

 

[Baron]

Do you want it or not, the future of the entirely western world is Islamic Caliphate.
In ten years Europa, in twenty Canada, in thirty USA.
Only Russia can probably withstand it because it has a thousand years long experience in peaceful coexistence with Muslims.

Stupid liberals dared to fight God. They deliberately destroyed Christianity which is now practically dead.
But they've forgotten, no one state can live without God.

Islam takes the empty place, more and more.

The sad Truth is if you or yours want to survive you shall already now begin to study Quran.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Mainstream Protestant organizations were taken over by leftists, as the left tends to do with organizations, and they were turned into left wing fronts with agenda driven purposes.
Here is the face and front man for the de-evolution of Protestantism who was on all the Sunday political shows in the Obama era. Jim Wallis - Wikipedia
I think he was a graduate of the same divinity school as Jeremiah Wright, to no one's surprise.

As an ex-Presbyterian I left my church years ago and have never looked back.
For the nominally Christian we recognize that the religions and churches of man are profoundly flawed and mainstream Protestant churches are even more flawed than most.

 

[BlackFlag]

This nation was founded by Anglicans, and when the Revolution was successful they formally broke from the national church of England and became Episcopalians. And the sister denominations (Presbyterians, Methodists, Lutherans, Northern Baptists, etc) that are clerically tied to the Episcopalian church in the US are collapsing also, given the Marxist rot that infects the clergy of all these denominations.

So what happens when the most powerful Establishment denominations collapse in this way?

They get replaced by a) coalitions of other denominations, b) ideological systems, c) Apatheists.

Of course the number one ideology that falls into both b) and c) is the ideological poison of Marxism, and I think the popularity of 'Socialism' as a word if not an actual economic system is also rising as a result.

How will this impact the US if a coalition of Catholic traditionalists, Evangelicals, and Pentecostals replace the Mainstream denominations? I think we are already seeing this in the Trump ascendance.

It seems pretty clear that Mainstream Protestants are cold on Trump while the rest of organized Christianity seems to be sliding into supporting him if they did not already do so.

Note that this chart does not cover the pentecostal movement which is lead by the Assemblies of God in numerical terms and accounts for about 10% of the total US population and continues to grow.

But thhe real question here is that the religiously unaffiliated seem to be mostly main stream Protestants that are socially replacing Main Stream Protestants across the nation.

This is a huge social change and I see little discussion or reflective thought regarding it.

People have stopped believing in magic before and the world has continued turning just fine

 

[Uncensored2008]

Do you want it or not, the future of the entirely western world is Islamic Caliphate.
In ten years Europa, in twenty Canada, in thirty USA.
Only Russia can probably withstand it because it has a thousand years long experience in peaceful coexistence with Muslims.

Stupid liberals dared to fight God. They deliberately destroyed Christianity which is now practically dead.
But they've forgotten, no one state can live without God.

Islam takes the empty place, more and more.

The sad Truth is if you or yours want to survive you shall already now begin to study Quran.

Islam is doomed.

Islam cannot survive an informed and educated populace.

The radicals in Iran and Turkey are a last dying gasp of a cult that is well past it's sell by date.

 

[BlackFlag]

Do you want it or not, the future of the entirely western world is Islamic Caliphate.
In ten years Europa, in twenty Canada, in thirty USA.
Only Russia can probably withstand it because it has a thousand years long experience in peaceful coexistence with Muslims.

Stupid liberals dared to fight God. They deliberately destroyed Christianity which is now practically dead.
But they've forgotten, no one state can live without God.

Islam takes the empty place, more and more.

The sad Truth is if you or yours want to survive you shall already now begin to study Quran.

Islam is doomed.

Islam cannot survive an informed and educated populace.

The radicals in Iran and Turkey are a last dying gasp of a cult that is well past it's sell by date.

Plenty of other magic beliefs have. Yours is not special.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

People have stopped believing in magic before and the world has continued turning just fine

Christianity has been more popular and it has been less popular but it isn't going anywhere after several thousand years
of existence, contrary to your implication.

And human minds will always seek out a higher force that gives meaning to life, that can't be found in the boobs you see on television, in the supermarket, the people you went to school with, etc.
They know intuitively that consciousness comes from somewhere before birth and it goes somewhere after death.

Post Materialist science is establishing the case for transcendent consciousness, sorry to inform you. http://opensciences.org/files/pdfs/Manifesto-for-a-Post-Materialist-Science.pdf

 

[BlackFlag]

People have stopped believing in magic before and the world has continued turning just fine

Christianity has been more popular and it has been less popular but it isn't going anywhere after several thousand years
of existence, contrary to your implication.

And human minds will always seek out a higher force that gives meaning to life, that can't be found in the boobs you see on television, in the supermarket, the people you went to school with, etc.
They know intuitively that consciousness comes from somewhere before birth and it goes somewhere after death.

Post Materialist science is establishing the case for transcendent consciousness, sorry to inform you. http://opensciences.org/files/pdfs/Manifesto-for-a-Post-Materialist-Science.pdf

Plenty of religions have existed for a long time and died. Christianity isn’t even the oldest one. If a creator exists, he’s certainly not one of the countless ones humans have invented to explain things we didn’t have the tech to understand at the time, or to hope we live on after death.

 

[gtopa1]

Yeah: time to return to the Church of Rome. The original and still going strong in most of the world despite some filthy maggotting by pedos and a few other scummy groups. We still have our INQUISITION!!!

congregation for the doctrine of the faith pdf - Google Search

Greg

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Plenty of religions have existed for a long time and died.

And many still live on. Neolithic tribal religions that simply worship forces of nature don't seem to do well as the planet evolves.

Christianity isn’t even the oldest one.

But it's very very old.

If a creator exists, he’s certainly not one of the countless ones humans have invented to explain things we didn’t have the tech to understand at the time, or to hope we live on after death.

At least you seem to grant a creating force may exist and that seems open minded of you. Well done.

Undoubtedly mankind has used God as a way of explaining a universe they could not comprehend. And as our knowledge evolves and we can see how things work we rely less and less on the idea of God to account for these things.

But as knowledge grows we also learn that the universe itself is more complex and less random than we first thought.
And some of our most brilliant minds (such as Einstein), who did not put faith in a biblical God, see a creating hand nonetheless in the workings of the universe.

So we learn to dispense with some things as we get wiser and we learn to acknowledge other things. That's wisdom.
Look at the Post Materialistic Science link I provided. Science based analysis of human consciousness (not to turn this into a religious rant).

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

People have stopped believing in magic before and the world has continued turning just fine

You’d better tell that to these people...
The Black Megachurch - Baylor University Press

 

[Likkmee]

Personally ? Shock and awe part# ?

 

[alang1216]

This nation was founded by Anglicans, and when the Revolution was successful they formally broke from the national church of England and became Episcopalians. And the sister denominations (Presbyterians, Methodists, Lutherans, Northern Baptists, etc) that are clerically tied to the Episcopalian church in the US are collapsing also, given the Marxist rot that infects the clergy of all these denominations.

So what happens when the most powerful Establishment denominations collapse in this way?

They get replaced by a) coalitions of other denominations, b) ideological systems, c) Apatheists.

Of course the number one ideology that falls into both b) and c) is the ideological poison of Marxism, and I think the popularity of 'Socialism' as a word if not an actual economic system is also rising as a result.

How will this impact the US if a coalition of Catholic traditionalists, Evangelicals, and Pentecostals replace the Mainstream denominations? I think we are already seeing this in the Trump ascendance.

It seems pretty clear that Mainstream Protestants are cold on Trump while the rest of organized Christianity seems to be sliding into supporting him if they did not already do so.

Note that this chart does not cover the pentecostal movement which is lead by the Assemblies of God in numerical terms and accounts for about 10% of the total US population and continues to grow.

But thhe real question here is that the religiously unaffiliated seem to be mostly main stream Protestants that are socially replacing Main Stream Protestants across the nation.

This is a huge social change and I see little discussion or reflective thought regarding it.

Maybe Christianity will go back to its roots. It did start out as socialist and spread rapidly. Alas, once it had achieved political power the Church became authoritarian and an enemy of Christians and Christianity.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Maybe Christianity will go back to its roots. It did start out as socialist and spread rapidly. Alas, once it had achieved political power the Church became authoritarian and an enemy of Christians and Christianity.

I doubt it. Christianity had no "socialist" roots and an agrarian Bronze Age communitarian society was about as socialist as a den of rabbits.

Socialism did not even exist until the late 18th century. Jeeeebus Christ!

Is that they teach people in schools these days? Did this come to you in a dream? Been smoking herbs again? Trying to
put a pretty bow on socialism? I'm laughing at you right now.

 

[badger2]

Right here, Einstein: any mention of creating forces will by default include the 1959 Miller-Urey volcanic spark experiment.

Radical atheists will take on the pathologies of all religions, islam included.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Maybe Christianity will go back to its roots. It did start out as socialist and spread rapidly. Alas, once it had achieved political power the Church became authoritarian and an enemy of Christians and Christianity.

I doubt it. Christianity had no "socialist" roots and an agrarian Bronze Age communitarian society was about as socialist as a den of rabbits.

Socialism did not even exist until the late 18th century. Jeeeebus Christ!

Is that they teach people in schools these days? Did this come to you in a dream? Been smoking herbs again? Trying to
put a pretty bow on socialism? I'm laughing at you right now.

The forerunners of Socialism pre-Marx were Christians trying to restore the economy of the First Century church.

Secularists like Robert Owens tried to secularize the concept and produced Socialism.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Right here, Einstein: any mention of creating forces will by default include the 1959 Miller-Urey volcanic spark experiment.

Radical atheists will take on the pathologies of all religions, islam included.

and fail

There are reasons the monotheist movement took over in the ancient world from polytheists; it is rational and plenty of evidence in the world around us attests to it

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

The forerunners of Socialism pre-Marx were Christians trying to restore the economy of the First Century church.

Secularists like Robert Owens tried to secularize the concept and produced Socialism.

Owens was a utopian reformer, undoubtedly. May 14, 1771: Industrial Utopian Robert Owen Born
But I can't find any support for him producing Socialism in any way.

More importantly the early Christian church were not Socialists. The idea is pure stupidity and people of the Christian sect helping and supporting each other is communitarianism more than anything else. It's certainly not socialism,.

Leftists are trying to put lipstick on a pig again.

 

[alang1216]

Maybe Christianity will go back to its roots. It did start out as socialist and spread rapidly. Alas, once it had achieved political power the Church became authoritarian and an enemy of Christians and Christianity.

I doubt it. Christianity had no "socialist" roots and an agrarian Bronze Age communitarian society was about as socialist as a den of rabbits.

Socialism did not even exist until the late 18th century. Jeeeebus Christ!

Is that they teach people in schools these days? Did this come to you in a dream? Been smoking herbs again? Trying to
put a pretty bow on socialism? I'm laughing at you right now.

You might want to review your Church history, starting with Paul. BTW, Jesus was born in the Iron Age.

The Characteristics of the early Church can be summarized as follows:

1. They devoted themselves to the Apostles’ teaching and fellowship.
2. They lived communal life; they had everything common.
3. They broke Bread together. This means they took Holy Communion together.
4. The rich and others sold their properties and possessions and brought all the money to the apostles’ feet.
5. They worshipped in the temple daily.
6. They distributed food and clothing to all the members, as any had need.
7. They prayed Together.
8. They were always praising God.
9. They ate food with glad and generous hearts.
10. Everybody worked for the good of others in order to build a strong Church .
​

Sounds a lot like a socialist utopia to me.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Do you want it or not, the future of the entirely western world is Islamic Caliphate.
In ten years Europa, in twenty Canada, in thirty USA.
Only Russia can probably withstand it because it has a thousand years long experience in peaceful coexistence with Muslims.

Stupid liberals dared to fight God. They deliberately destroyed Christianity which is now practically dead.
But they've forgotten, no one state can live without God.

Islam takes the empty place, more and more.

The sad Truth is if you or yours want to survive you shall already now begin to study Quran.

Islam will try, but a "Hitler" is coming to Europe again. Muslims will be defeated and most "christians" will blindly support everything this man does. This is the Beast of Revelation.