What Will be the Impacts of the Collapse of Mainstream Protestant Denominations?

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Believing in Objective Truth does not make a person a zealot.
Insisting that only your perspective of that Truth is valid is what gives way to zealotry.

Those two sentences make no sense together. If a truth is objective, it is the same from any perspective. That's what objective is.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Back to the OP, I noticed that if you sum Mainline Protestants and non-religious, they are steady at just over 53% for the whole set of decades.

It seems that Mainline Protestants are leaving their churches in droves.

Wonder if it has anything to do with them abandoning Christianity being tied to Biblical Truths?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Government force is violent and authoritarian, all the time.

100% wrong. Enforcement of well reasoned laws agreed upon in a democratic society is precisely the opposite of authoritarian.

 

[alang1216]

Back to the OP, I noticed that if you sum Mainline Protestants and non-religious, they are steady at just over 53% for the whole set of decades.

It seems that Mainline Protestants are leaving their churches in droves.

Wonder if it has anything to do with them abandoning Christianity being tied to Biblical Truths?

Some research says you needn't worry:

Mainline churches are tanking as if they have super-sized millstones around their necks. Yes, these churches are hemorrhaging members in startling numbers, but many of those folks are not leaving Christianity. They are simply going elsewhere. Because of this shifting, other very different kinds of churches are holding strong in crowds and have been for as long as such data has been collected. In some ways, they are even growing.​

 

[Mike Dwight]

The result of the "Diluting" of Mainline Protestantism, is well, look at the conversion of Hungary. In the 800's AD the King of Hungary wished to be associated with this community of Nations. In 1885 Americans were invited to Korea so that Korea also could be associated with a Community of Nations, especially our Community of Nations and "Western Powers". The King of Hungary enforced this version of religion in Hungary to join these Nations. The King of Korea paid Royal patronage and shared interest with this religion. The dilution of Mainline Protestantism and the Protestant Reformation places the Nations, of the religion, far above the religion itself with its nations, where the nations of the religion were, historically. Korea's Presbyterian Church is very accurate to what American Christianity was looking to impart. I will stop reposting Paganism when I can stop dancing to it, wee...


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[Soupnazi630]

Government force is violent and authoritarian, all the time.

100% wrong. Enforcement of well reasoned laws agreed upon in a democratic society is precisely the opposite of authoritarian.

I am 100 % correct you are ignorant and proven wrong

Even when agreed upon by a democratic vote enforcement of laws is authoritarian

 

[Avatar4321]

More latter day saints

 

[Uncensored2008]

Socialism is by definition about authoritarianism over others.

Is the socialism of Europe authoritarian?

Of course it is

So Denmark and the other Nordic countries are run by an authoritarian regimes? I thought they were democracies. Maybe the problem is that you don't understand what a democracy is?

You're an idiot.

Nordic countries are Capitalist welfare states.

In 1992, Marvin Simkin wrote in Los Angeles Times, Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to eat for lunch. Freedom comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99%

 

[JimBowie1958]

Mainline churches are tanking as if they have super-sized millstones around their necks. Yes, these churches are hemorrhaging members in startling numbers, but many of those folks are not leaving Christianity. They are simply going elsewhere. Because of this shifting, other very different kinds of churches are holding strong in crowds and have been for as long as such data has been collected. In some ways, they are even growing.​

I dont see how you have anything resembling authentic Christianity and abandon the Apostle to the Gentiles.

People have more sense than to swallow that kind of falsehood and they wont. Their faith is all most of them h ave to hope for in their lives. Authenticity as best they are understand it is essential to them feeling happy with their lives and they will reject anything that undermines that authenticity.

 

[SweetSue92]

This nation was founded by Anglicans, and when the Revolution was successful they formally broke from the national church of England and became Episcopalians. And the sister denominations (Presbyterians, Methodists, Lutherans, Northern Baptists, etc) that are clerically tied to the Episcopalian church in the US are collapsing also, given the Marxist rot that infects the clergy of all these denominations.

So what happens when the most powerful Establishment denominations collapse in this way?

They get replaced by a) coalitions of other denominations, b) ideological systems, c) Apatheists.

Of course the number one ideology that falls into both b) and c) is the ideological poison of Marxism, and I think the popularity of 'Socialism' as a word if not an actual economic system is also rising as a result.

How will this impact the US if a coalition of Catholic traditionalists, Evangelicals, and Pentecostals replace the Mainstream denominations? I think we are already seeing this in the Trump ascendance.

It seems pretty clear that Mainstream Protestants are cold on Trump while the rest of organized Christianity seems to be sliding into supporting him if they did not already do so.

Note that this chart does not cover the pentecostal movement which is lead by the Assemblies of God in numerical terms and accounts for about 10% of the total US population and continues to grow.

But thhe real question here is that the religiously unaffiliated seem to be mostly main stream Protestants that are socially replacing Main Stream Protestants across the nation.

This is a huge social change and I see little discussion or reflective thought regarding it.

Pretty sure Pentacostals would be categorized under evangelicals. And our entire society is undergoing many social changes that no one is discussing because the MSM is obsessed with only Trump 24/7. We could be discussing the decline of mainline protestants, the economy, the impact of technology on our children (a huge issue), the explosion of mental illness in our nation, a million things. But that's not what they want to discuss, and they still control WAY too much of the narrative. Throw in the forces of Silicone Valley and there you go. Sheeple.

 

[alang1216]

Mainline churches are tanking as if they have super-sized millstones around their necks. Yes, these churches are hemorrhaging members in startling numbers, but many of those folks are not leaving Christianity. They are simply going elsewhere. Because of this shifting, other very different kinds of churches are holding strong in crowds and have been for as long as such data has been collected. In some ways, they are even growing.​

I dont see how you have anything resembling authentic Christianity and abandon the Apostle to the Gentiles.

People have more sense than to swallow that kind of falsehood and they wont. Their faith is all most of them h ave to hope for in their lives. Authenticity as best they are understand it is essential to them feeling happy with their lives and they will reject anything that undermines that authenticity.

What is "authentic Christianity"? I don't think I've ever met 2 Christians that can agree on what it means to be Christian.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Government force is violent and authoritarian, all the time.

100% wrong. Enforcement of well reasoned laws agreed upon in a democratic society is precisely the opposite of authoritarian.

I am 100 % correct you are ignorant and proven wrong

Even when agreed upon by a democratic vote enforcement of laws is authoritarian

You made no argument. You simply repeated yourself. And then patted yourself on the back for, essentially,a tourettes outburst.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

More latter day saints

Doubtful.

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[Avatar4321]

More latter day saints

Doubtful.

Mormon growth continues to slow, especially in the US - Religion News Service

Faith can see what doubt is blind to

 

[Soupnazi630]

Government force is violent and authoritarian, all the time.

100% wrong. Enforcement of well reasoned laws agreed upon in a democratic society is precisely the opposite of authoritarian.

I am 100 % correct you are ignorant and proven wrong

Even when agreed upon by a democratic vote enforcement of laws is authoritarian

You made no argument. You simply repeated yourself. And then patted yourself on the back for, essentially,a tourettes outburst.

I stated fact which you cannot refute.

All you did was say unnh unnh and the facts prove you wrong

And you know it.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Faith can see what doubt is blind to

Signed,

Mohammed

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I stated fact which you cannot refute.

I already refuted it. You seem confused about what that word means.

Furthermore, I also argued why it was wrong.

Your response was simply to repeat your authoritative statement, with no argument or response to my points, nor any original argument to support it the first time.

This is because you not only have no argument, you likely don't even know what an argument is.

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[Soupnazi630]

I stated fact which you cannot refute.

I already refuted it. You seem confused about what that word means.

Furthermore, I also argued why it was wrong.

Your response was simply to repeat your authoritative statement, with no argument or response to my points, nor any original argument to support it the first time.

This is because you not only have no argument, you likely don't even know what an argument is.

.

You did not refute anything.

You simply stated a false and inaccurate definition and gave no reason why it was wrong


You are lacking in education and you do not comprehend simple English

My response was to restate a fact which you stupidly attempted to whine about

You have been owned boy.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You did not refute anything.

Of course I did, as simply saying something is false is a refutation of it. You shouldn't try to use words that you don't understand.

Furthermore, I argued my point: enforcing agreed upon laws in a democratic system is precisely the opposite of authoritarianism. The laws have been I.plememted by consensus, not unsupported decree.

Anyone who says otherwise is a freakish libertarian fool.

 

[Soupnazi630]

You did not refute anything.

Of course I did, as simply saying something is false is a refutation of it. You shouldn't try to use words that you don't understand.

Furthermore, I argued my point: enforcing agreed upon laws in a democratic system is precisely the opposite of authoritarianism. The laws have been I.plememted by consensus, not unsupported decree.

Anyone who says otherwise is a freakish libertarian fool.

No that is not a refutation ignorant one.

That is nothing more than a childish and ignorant denial of fact.

You failed to refute anything and we all know this especially you.

You are proven wrong and have demonstrated a lack of intellect.

It is you who cannot argue and you have been made into a bitch