Zone1 What was the point of asking for the sacrifice of Isaac by his Father? Gen. 22

[irosie91]

The stories are intended to teach. They aren't history.

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who had the intention in the situation in question?

 

[onefour1]

Moses didn't write anything down . Genesis and Exodus were written after the Babylonian exile.... 800 years after the death of Moses. There were many authors over hundreds of years.

There's no evidence for the existence of the Chaldeans until 800 BC.

According to the New Testament, Jesus taught that Moses did indeed write about Him.

John 5:46
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

John 1:45
45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.


So to say that Moses didn't write anything down is contrary to the word of the LORD. Most subsequent writers were copiers. To say that there is no evidence for the existence of the Chaldeans until 800 BC is to ignore the verses in Genesis which speak of Ur of the Chaldees. To believe that these verses were added later is to cheapen the Bible and make one wonder what in the Bible is truth or fiction.

 

[BreezeWood]

Oh the demand on Abraham was made, but was only carried out to the point where Abraham showed that he was willing to go through with the demand. He was then stopped by God in carrying out the demand! You bring up Jesus' sacrifice. Jesus' mission was not a test of his faith but a mission to save all mankind from death and to save the faithful into the kingdom of heaven. That mission needed to be accomplished or God would not be God and we would all unavoidably perish!

abraham instead or otherwise chose to put to death the lamb their own decision associating the heavens they were not granted.

jesus's mission was the repudiation of judaism, a reason being abraham's failure as their proclivity of hereditary idolatry and ridiculous proposition of being chosen as special to the heavens ... and taught liberation theology, self determination - the opposite of christianity, the religion of servitude and denial.

 

[irosie91]

According to the New Testament, Jesus taught that Moses did indeed write about Him.

John 5:46
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

John 1:45
45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.


So to say that Moses didn't write anything down is contrary to the word of the LORD. Most subsequent writers were copiers. To say that there is no evidence for the existence of the Chaldeans until 800 BC is to ignore the verses in Genesis which speak of Ur of the Chaldees. To believe that these verses were added later is to cheapen the Bible and make one wonder what in the Bible is truth or fiction.

GOOD POINT-----a very basic---HOW TO READ THE BIBLE--
both NT and OT---or any other scriptural writing of esoteric
origin

 

[onefour1]

Here is a good article that questions the opinion of scholars who believe that Abraham's Ur of Chaldees is in Southern Iraq.

In The Land of the Chaldeans

 

[surada]

According to the New Testament, Jesus taught that Moses did indeed write about Him.

John 5:46
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

John 1:45
45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.


So to say that Moses didn't write anything down is contrary to the word of the LORD. Most subsequent writers were copiers. To say that there is no evidence for the existence of the Chaldeans until 800 BC is to ignore the verses in Genesis which speak of Ur of the Chaldees. To believe that these verses were added later is to cheapen the Bible and make one wonder what in the Bible is truth or fiction.

There were no Chaldeans that early.

 

[irosie91]

There were no Chaldeans that early.

so?----they were called something else. What is the aramaic
word that whoever---a "JOHN" or greek LUKE used in that
discussion? New York City did not become THE BIG APPLE---
until circa 1970. -----the brooklyn bums went to, uhm ...
? San Francisco?

 

[surada]

so?----they were called something else. What is the aramaic
word that whoever---a "JOHN" or greek LUKE used in that
discussion? New York City did not become THE BIG APPLE---
until circa 1970. -----the brooklyn bums went to, uhm ...
? San Francisco?

They came from somewhere else.

 

[Cougarbear]

He probably had all sorts of emotions.

He certainly did! But the idea that these loonies write about that if God had allowed Abraham to kill Isaac, that Isaac would have been resurrected or brought back to life has no merit to draw from. The real fact is, God was never going to let Abraham complete the sacrifice. He just wanted to know if he was a true believer in God and to understand the entire Plan of Salvation with the Father sending his Son to atone and be sacrificed for our sins. It was a similitude of the Only Begotten of the Father in the flesh.

 

[irosie91]

They came from somewhere else.

how do you know? Long ago---when I was young---every lawyer was called a LITVAK

He certainly did! But the idea that these loonies write about that if God had allowed Abraham to kill Isaac, that Isaac would have been resurrected or brought back to life has no merit to draw from. The real fact is, God was never going to let Abraham complete the sacrifice. He just wanted to know if he was a true believer in God and to understand the entire Plan of Salvation with the Father sending his Son to atone and be sacrificed for our sins. It was a similitude of the Only Begotten of the Father in the flesh.

thanks----please complete the scripture of GOLDIE LOCKS AND THE THREE BEARS

 

[Cougarbear]

how do you know? Long ago---when I was young---every lawyer was called a LITVAK

thanks----please complete the scripture of GOLDIE LOCKS AND THE THREE BEARS

Because I know. Our church is the true orthodox church of Jesus Christ. We have the fulness of the Gospel including more writings of Abraham and Moses than the rest of Judah and Christiandome.

 

[irosie91]

Because I know. Our church is the true orthodox church of Jesus Christ. We have the fulness of the Gospel including more writings of Abraham and Moses than the rest of Judah and Christiandome.

the christians got a DOME now? do DA MUZZIES KNOW?

 

[Cougarbear]

the christians got a DOME now? do DA MUZZIES KNOW?

That covers all of Christian Churches...

 

[irosie91]

That covers all of Christian Churches...

a few do----but not as a PRIMARY and SPITEFUL gold coated
PUSTULE like structure imposed on the holy city of ----the
other people

 

[BreezeWood]

He just wanted to know if he was a true believer in God and to understand the entire Plan of Salvation with the Father sending his Son to atone and be sacrificed for our sins.

were the latter true, why would not the former be completed as well.

how is taking the life of someone else the means for proving their belief, as their refusal and offering themselves surly would be more appropriate, their denial for such a request being steadfast for whatever the consequence would prove the stronger response.

or - an explanation for the request for future prosperity, the sin of hereditary idolatry for any reason throughout the centuries used for the most debilitating of crimes being their objective. family values as the political version of present day political pandering and religious iniquity.

 

[irosie91]

were the latter true, why would not the former be completed as well.

how is taking the life of someone else the means for proving their belief, as their refusal and offering themselves surly would be more appropriate, their denial for such a request being steadfast for whatever the consequence would prove the stronger response.

or - an explanation for the request for future prosperity, the sin of hereditary idolatry for any reason throughout the centuries used for the most debilitating of crimes being their objective. family values as the political version of present day political pandering and religious iniquity.

Are you working on your SCRIPTURES? Abraham did not
inherit idolatry----he gave it up in a frenzy of vandalism

 

[kjw47]

That's not what God said. God is not a liar but your scholars are and tell tall tales. It's God that was not going to allow Abraham to kill his only son. But, he wanted to know if he would follow Him or not. He also wanted Abraham to know what it feels like to slay your only Son. For God the Father was going to send Jehovah to the Earth to be offered up as the ultimate sacrifice for our sins. There was going to be no other son of Abraham to be offered up because God new 100% that he would not allow Abraham to kill his only son. Abraham did not know. But, he learned about Jesus Christ and his atonement. This was a similitude of Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son in the flesh of our Heavenly Father.

Abraham did not know that God wouldn't let him kill Issac, thus my post is fact.

 

[surada]

the christians got a DOME now? do DA MUZZIES KNOW?

Lots of churches have domes. Why don't you all build your own temple somewhere else? The mosque was built to honor the God of Abraham. It's been 1300 years.

 

[surada]

Because I know. Our church is the true orthodox church of Jesus Christ. We have the fulness of the Gospel including more writings of Abraham and Moses than the rest of Judah and Christiandome.

You mean the writings of Joseph Smith?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Abraham knew 100% God was not a liar, thus knew the covenant he made about Issac would come true, Thus if Abraham killed Issac the only way it could come true was if God brought him back to life.

Well, not exactly. His faith waivered. Because of his sin we have the Arab problem.