"What To The Slave Is The 4th Of July?"

[IM2]

And none of you were here on July 4th, 1776, none of you fought the British for your freedom either. And since most of you are from ancestors who came here after this happened, your ancestors did not fight to win your freedom from Britain either.

So without further ado, one of the greatest speeches in American history.

What To The Slave Is The 4th Of July?"
FREDERICK DOUGLASS SPEECH, 1852

Fellow citizens, pardon me, allow me to ask, why am I called upon to speak here today? What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national independence? Are the great principles of political freedom and of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of Independence, extended to us? and am I, therefore, called upon to bring our humble offering to the national altar, and to confess the benefits and express devout gratitude for the blessings resulting from your independence to us?

For the rest of the speech:

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/douglass.htm

Hey you racist fuck! Did you read it? Do you know it was in 1852? Do you know it is not 1852 right now?

How fucking stupidly racist are you really?

It's not 1776 right now either dumb ass.

That's irrelevant, you racist moron.

Oh it's relevant alright.

 

[MaryL]

And none of you were here on July 4th, 1776, none of you fought the British for your freedom either. And since most of you are from ancestors who came here after this happened, your ancestors did not fight to win your freedom from Britain either.

So without further ado, one of the greatest speeches in American history.

What To The Slave Is The 4th Of July?"
FREDERICK DOUGLASS SPEECH, 1852

Fellow citizens, pardon me, allow me to ask, why am I called upon to speak here today? What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national independence? Are the great principles of political freedom and of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of Independence, extended to us? and am I, therefore, called upon to bring our humble offering to the national altar, and to confess the benefits and express devout gratitude for the blessings resulting from your independence to us?

For the rest of the speech:

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/douglass.htm

This thread is dead, Fred. We are post racial, slavery is dead and gone. Things have changed since abolition, haven't you heard? Over 65 thousand anonymous white guys fought to free the slaves. Racism is bad, you are totally right about that. And why haven't blacks got over it? There is two sides to a equation. Lets be honest here, why haven't blacks tried harder to get over this racial inertia? That's is the bigger question. What the hell does it take?

No white guys fought to free the slaves. But this thread is about the fourth of July. A day that happened 240 years ago which means its too long ago to be celebrated or discussed by your standards, it is too old for this because none of you were here on July 4th , 1776. because this happened 241 years ago, it is irrelevant to today based upon the argument many of you have made.

Really? I am trying hard to figure out what the hell you saying here. As a one to one human being. Yes, a bunch of white people died to end slavery. We all get that slavery was bad. It's gone with the freakin' wind. 150 + years ago. Limbaugh is like Colbert or Kathy Griffin. Entertainers that use outrage like waving a a red flag in front of a bull. We get it.

 

[Darkwind]

And none of you were here on July 4th, 1776, none of you fought the British for your freedom either. And since most of you are from ancestors who came here after this happened, your ancestors did not fight to win your freedom from Britain either.

So without further ado, one of the greatest speeches in American history.

What To The Slave Is The 4th Of July?"
FREDERICK DOUGLASS SPEECH, 1852

Fellow citizens, pardon me, allow me to ask, why am I called upon to speak here today? What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national independence? Are the great principles of political freedom and of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of Independence, extended to us? and am I, therefore, called upon to bring our humble offering to the national altar, and to confess the benefits and express devout gratitude for the blessings resulting from your independence to us?

For the rest of the speech:

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/douglass.htm

You should run off and axe a few and the report back to us.

Oooo......close. you almost had a thought of your own. Keep trying.

When you come up with your own thoughts, let me know.

LOL....
You remind Me of My little sister when she was 10. She too would repeat it back as if that was the biggest burn imaginable. It's kind of like, "I know I am, but what are you".

Only a child could find that witty.

Now, I've read this thread and I've reached the conclusion you are trolling this forum and this thread. There is no amount of talking, thought, proof, or discussion that will deter you from your racist remarks and actions. So, I've decided to just have a little fun. Depending on how well the system works over the next few minutes will determine if I make it back. However, if I don't. Please, don't take it personally. I've never really taken you seriously, to begin with.

 

[IM2]

And none of you were here on July 4th, 1776, none of you fought the British for your freedom either. And since most of you are from ancestors who came here after this happened, your ancestors did not fight to win your freedom from Britain either.

So without further ado, one of the greatest speeches in American history.

What To The Slave Is The 4th Of July?"
FREDERICK DOUGLASS SPEECH, 1852

Fellow citizens, pardon me, allow me to ask, why am I called upon to speak here today? What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national independence? Are the great principles of political freedom and of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of Independence, extended to us? and am I, therefore, called upon to bring our humble offering to the national altar, and to confess the benefits and express devout gratitude for the blessings resulting from your independence to us?

For the rest of the speech:

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/douglass.htm

This thread is dead, Fred. We are post racial, slavery is dead and gone. Things have changed since abolition, haven't you heard? Over 65 thousand anonymous white guys fought to free the slaves. Racism is bad, you are totally right about that. And why haven't blacks got over it? There is two sides to a equation. Lets be honest here, why haven't blacks tried harder to get over this racial inertia? That's is the bigger question. What the hell does it take?

No white guys fought to free the slaves. But this thread is about the fourth of July. A day that happened 240 years ago which means its too long ago to be celebrated or discussed by your standards, it is too old for this because none of you were here on July 4th , 1776. because this happened 241 years ago, it is irrelevant to today based upon the argument many of you have made.

Really? I am trying hard to figure out what the hell you saying here. As a one to one human being. Yes, a bunch of white people died to end slavery. We all get that slavery was bad. It's gone with the freakin' wind. 150 + years ago. Limbaugh is like Colbert or Kathy Griffin. Entertainers that use outrage like waving a a red flag in front of a bull. We get it.

A bunch of whites did not die to end slavery. That is an inaccurate statement. In every thread all you do is talk about how slavery is over when the thread topic has never been slavery.

 

[IM2]

And none of you were here on July 4th, 1776, none of you fought the British for your freedom either. And since most of you are from ancestors who came here after this happened, your ancestors did not fight to win your freedom from Britain either.

So without further ado, one of the greatest speeches in American history.

What To The Slave Is The 4th Of July?"
FREDERICK DOUGLASS SPEECH, 1852

Fellow citizens, pardon me, allow me to ask, why am I called upon to speak here today? What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national independence? Are the great principles of political freedom and of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of Independence, extended to us? and am I, therefore, called upon to bring our humble offering to the national altar, and to confess the benefits and express devout gratitude for the blessings resulting from your independence to us?

For the rest of the speech:

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/douglass.htm

You should run off and axe a few and the report back to us.

Oooo......close. you almost had a thought of your own. Keep trying.

When you come up with your own thoughts, let me know.

LOL....
You remind Me of My little sister when she was 10. She too would repeat it back as if that was the biggest burn imaginable. It's kind of like, "I know I am, but what are you".

Only a child could find that witty.

Now, I've read this thread and I've reached the conclusion you are trolling this forum and this thread. There is no amount of talking, thought, proof, or discussion that will deter you from your racist remarks and actions. So, I've decided to just have a little fun. Depending on how well the system works over the next few minutes will determine if I make it back. However, if I don't. Please, don't take it personally. I've never really taken you seriously, to begin with.

What you think is of no consequence to me. Especially since I have said nothing racist. I am the OP son. The section of this forum is called Race and racism. So then I cannot be trolling. You just cant take the truth in what is being said to you.

Good riddance

 

[MaryL]

A bunch of whites did not die to end slavery. That is an inaccurate statement. In every thread all you do is talk about how slavery is over when the thread topic has never been slavery.[/QUOTE]
Well, there went evey shred of credibility you ever had, out the window, POOF. you might as well deny the earth is round. What a waste.

 

[jon_berzerk]

And none of you were here on July 4th, 1776, none of you fought the British for your freedom either. And since most of you are from ancestors who came here after this happened, your ancestors did not fight to win your freedom from Britain either.

So without further ado, one of the greatest speeches in American history.

What To The Slave Is The 4th Of July?"
FREDERICK DOUGLASS SPEECH, 1852

Fellow citizens, pardon me, allow me to ask, why am I called upon to speak here today? What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national independence? Are the great principles of political freedom and of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of Independence, extended to us? and am I, therefore, called upon to bring our humble offering to the national altar, and to confess the benefits and express devout gratitude for the blessings resulting from your independence to us?

For the rest of the speech:

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/douglass.htm

This thread is dead, Fred. We are post racial, slavery is dead and gone. Things have changed since abolition, haven't you heard? Over 65 thousand anonymous white guys fought to free the slaves. Racism is bad, you are totally right about that. And why haven't blacks got over it? There is two sides to a equation. Lets be honest here, why haven't blacks tried harder to get over this racial inertia? That's is the bigger question. What the hell does it take?

No white guys fought to free the slaves. But this thread is about the fourth of July. A day that happened 240 years ago which means its too long ago to be celebrated or discussed by your standards, it is too old for this because none of you were here on July 4th , 1776. because this happened 241 years ago, it is irrelevant to today based upon the argument many of you have made.

Really? I am trying hard to figure out what the hell you saying here. As a one to one human thing. Yes, a bunch of white people died to end slavery. We all get that slavery was bad. It's gone with the freakin' wind. 150 + years ago. Limbaugh is like Colbert or Kathy Griffin. Entertainers that use outrage like waving a a red flag in front of a bull. We get it.

And none of you were here on July 4th, 1776, none of you fought the British for your freedom either. And since most of you are from ancestors who came here after this happened, your ancestors did not fight to win your freedom from Britain either.

So without further ado, one of the greatest speeches in American history.

What To The Slave Is The 4th Of July?"
FREDERICK DOUGLASS SPEECH, 1852

Fellow citizens, pardon me, allow me to ask, why am I called upon to speak here today? What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national independence? Are the great principles of political freedom and of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of Independence, extended to us? and am I, therefore, called upon to bring our humble offering to the national altar, and to confess the benefits and express devout gratitude for the blessings resulting from your independence to us?

For the rest of the speech:

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/douglass.htm

This thread is dead, Fred. We are post racial, slavery is dead and gone. Things have changed since abolition, haven't you heard? Over 65 thousand anonymous white guys fought to free the slaves. Racism is bad, you are totally right about that. And why haven't blacks got over it? There is two sides to a equation. Lets be honest here, why haven't blacks tried harder to get over this racial inertia? That's is the bigger question. What the hell does it take?

No white guys fought to free the slaves. But this thread is about the fourth of July. A day that happened 240 years ago which means its too long ago to be celebrated or discussed by your standards, it is too old for this because none of you were here on July 4th , 1776. because this happened 241 years ago, it is irrelevant to today based upon the argument many of you have made.

Really? I am trying hard to figure out what the hell you saying here. As a one to one human thing. Yes, a bunch of white people died to end slavery. We all get that slavery was bad. It's gone with the freakin' wind. 150 + years ago. Limbaugh is like Colbert or Kathy Griffin. Entertainers that use outrage like waving a a red flag in front of a bull. We get it.

yes the United states has been without slavery almost twice as long as it had it

 

[IM2]

A bunch of whites did not die to end slavery. That is an inaccurate statement. In every thread all you do is talk about how slavery is over when the thread topic has never been slavery.

Well, there went evey shred a of credibility you ever had, out the window, you might as well deny the earth is round. What a waste.

My credibility is just fine You are the one with none. Whites did not die to free the slaves. This thread is about how you guys want to tell everyone to not talk about slavery because it was 150 years ago but yet you talk abut something that happened 241 years ago that you had nothing to do with. Rush Limbaugh has nothing to do with this thread topic.

 

[jon_berzerk]

^^^--LOL--^^^

 

[IM2]

And none of you were here on July 4th, 1776, none of you fought the British for your freedom either. And since most of you are from ancestors who came here after this happened, your ancestors did not fight to win your freedom from Britain either.

So without further ado, one of the greatest speeches in American history.

What To The Slave Is The 4th Of July?"
FREDERICK DOUGLASS SPEECH, 1852

Fellow citizens, pardon me, allow me to ask, why am I called upon to speak here today? What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national independence? Are the great principles of political freedom and of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of Independence, extended to us? and am I, therefore, called upon to bring our humble offering to the national altar, and to confess the benefits and express devout gratitude for the blessings resulting from your independence to us?

For the rest of the speech:

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/douglass.htm

This thread is dead, Fred. We are post racial, slavery is dead and gone. Things have changed since abolition, haven't you heard? Over 65 thousand anonymous white guys fought to free the slaves. Racism is bad, you are totally right about that. And why haven't blacks got over it? There is two sides to a equation. Lets be honest here, why haven't blacks tried harder to get over this racial inertia? That's is the bigger question. What the hell does it take?

No white guys fought to free the slaves. But this thread is about the fourth of July. A day that happened 240 years ago which means its too long ago to be celebrated or discussed by your standards, it is too old for this because none of you were here on July 4th , 1776. because this happened 241 years ago, it is irrelevant to today based upon the argument many of you have made.

Really? I am trying hard to figure out what the hell you saying here. As a one to one human thing. Yes, a bunch of white people died to end slavery. We all get that slavery was bad. It's gone with the freakin' wind. 150 + years ago. Limbaugh is like Colbert or Kathy Griffin. Entertainers that use outrage like waving a a red flag in front of a bull. We get it.

And none of you were here on July 4th, 1776, none of you fought the British for your freedom either. And since most of you are from ancestors who came here after this happened, your ancestors did not fight to win your freedom from Britain either.

So without further ado, one of the greatest speeches in American history.

What To The Slave Is The 4th Of July?"
FREDERICK DOUGLASS SPEECH, 1852

Fellow citizens, pardon me, allow me to ask, why am I called upon to speak here today? What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national independence? Are the great principles of political freedom and of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of Independence, extended to us? and am I, therefore, called upon to bring our humble offering to the national altar, and to confess the benefits and express devout gratitude for the blessings resulting from your independence to us?

For the rest of the speech:

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/douglass.htm

This thread is dead, Fred. We are post racial, slavery is dead and gone. Things have changed since abolition, haven't you heard? Over 65 thousand anonymous white guys fought to free the slaves. Racism is bad, you are totally right about that. And why haven't blacks got over it? There is two sides to a equation. Lets be honest here, why haven't blacks tried harder to get over this racial inertia? That's is the bigger question. What the hell does it take?

No white guys fought to free the slaves. But this thread is about the fourth of July. A day that happened 240 years ago which means its too long ago to be celebrated or discussed by your standards, it is too old for this because none of you were here on July 4th , 1776. because this happened 241 years ago, it is irrelevant to today based upon the argument many of you have made.

Really? I am trying hard to figure out what the hell you saying here. As a one to one human thing. Yes, a bunch of white people died to end slavery. We all get that slavery was bad. It's gone with the freakin' wind. 150 + years ago. Limbaugh is like Colbert or Kathy Griffin. Entertainers that use outrage like waving a a red flag in front of a bull. We get it.

yes the United states has been without slavery almost twice as long as it had it

Actually the US had slaves beginning in 1640. But this thread is not about the white folks claims of how slavery is over.and how it was 150 years ago s get over it. The issue here is that July 4, 1776 was 241 years ago and by your own standard things that happened that long ago are irrelevant today.

 

[Auld Phart]

A bunch of whites did not die to end slavery. That is an inaccurate statement. In every thread all you do is talk about how slavery is over when the thread topic has never been slavery.

Well, there went evey shred a of credibility you ever had, out the window, you might as well deny the earth is round. What a waste.

My credibility is just fine You are the one with none. Whites did not die to free the slaves. This thread is about how you guys want to tell everyone to not talk about slavery because it was 150 years ago but yet you talk abut something that happened 241 years ago that you had nothing to do with. Rush Limbaugh has nothing to do with this thread topic.

Whites did not die to free the slaves.

Between 600,000 to 700,000 died in the Civil War to end slavery.

 

[MaryL]

A bunch of whites did not die to end slavery. That is an inaccurate statement. In every thread all you do is talk about how slavery is over when the thread topic has never been slavery.

Well, there went evey shred a of credibility you ever had, out the window, you might as well deny the earth is round. What a waste.

My credibility is just fine You are the one with none. Whites did not die to free the slaves. This thread is about how you guys want to tell everyone to not talk about slavery because it was 150 years ago but yet you talk abut something that happened 241 years ago that you had nothing to do with. Rush Limbaugh has nothing to do with this thread topic.

Didn't you do this before? The ol' swicheraroo. You bait and don' t debate. You have lost my respect with these childish games of yours.

 

[flacaltenn]

And none of you were here on July 4th, 1776, none of you fought the British for your freedom either. And since most of you are from ancestors who came here after this happened, your ancestors did not fight to win your freedom from Britain either.

So without further ado, one of the greatest speeches in American history.

What To The Slave Is The 4th Of July?"
FREDERICK DOUGLASS SPEECH, 1852

Fellow citizens, pardon me, allow me to ask, why am I called upon to speak here today? What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national independence? Are the great principles of political freedom and of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of Independence, extended to us? and am I, therefore, called upon to bring our humble offering to the national altar, and to confess the benefits and express devout gratitude for the blessings resulting from your independence to us?

For the rest of the speech:

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/douglass.htm

Frederick Douglas never fought in the revolutionary war...but he became a strong supporter of the constitution.

"However, as Frederick Douglass matured in his political views, he evolved in his personal position regarding the Law of the Land. In fact, Douglass made one of the most dramatic changes in position regarding the value of the U.S. Constitution in the years leading up to the outbreak of the Civil War.

As Douglass read and studied more, and became more aware of other abolitionists, he began to pull away from Garrison’s orbit of persuasion. On December 3, 1847, after Douglass came back from a tour of England and Ireland, he used funds entrusted to him to start his own weekly abolitionist newspaper that he called The North Star. This initiated a substantial break with his previous supporter. Garrison felt largely responsible for the rise in prominence of the former slave, but ironically opposed the move to establish a separate abolitionist news organization. He may have regarded it as some needless competition for his own newspaper. Nonetheless in The North Star, Douglass replicated Garrisonian views that the Constitution was intentionally pro-slavery."

"Frederick Douglass had even publically debated with Lysander Spooner and Gerrit Smith who were abolitionists that supported the Constitution. In 1846, Spooner, an ardent abolitionist, had written a book titled The Unconstitutionality of Slavery which proposed the opposite perspective of Garrison, in which Spooner expressed that the Founders had not deliberately legalized slavery. Eventually, Frederick Douglass made public a dramatic change of opinion about the Constitution in his newspaper, and later in a public speech, he proclaimed it as “a glorious liberty document.” Such a dramatic personal shift in opinion reflected a larger split within the abolition movement in general due to perceptions regarding the Constitution and the proper way for the nation to deal with the institution of slavery."

Read more at Frederick Douglass and defending the U.S. Constitution | Communities Digital News

I know all about Frederick Douglass. I don't need an education on him from some idiot.

This thread not about the bullshit posted in the above quote. This thread is about the fact that on July 4th, 1776 no one black in this nation won any independence or freedom. It is also about the fact that no one here today fought in that war, no one here was alive during that war, and since most of you are descending from people who came here after that war, none of your relatives fought in this war. None of you or your ancestors are responsible for winning this independence for whites, so therefore we should not be celebrating he fourth.

By that logic, Lincoln probably should have followed thru on the plan to repatriate the freed slaves back in Africa. So that untold generations of folks who DON'T WANT TO BE AMERICAN wouldn't feel obligated to celebrate the VERY EXISTENCE of this country.

I don't think ANYONE should be here against their will. Not refugees from the Mid East, certainly not 4th gen post slaves..

We can fix this... Just tell us WHERE --- you'd be more comfortable so we get the paperwork right.

 

[flacaltenn]

I just think it's funny that Americans still think they're living in a free country.

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You too? Well, you and Im2 can keep each other company at least.

How free can you possibly be with the Planets largest ever Domestic Spying operation being implemented? With a dysfunction press? With 2 parties locked in meaningless grade school taunts? With College campuses becoming fascisticly anti-free speech?

We've lost a LOT of ground...

 

[PredFan]

And none of you were here on July 4th, 1776, none of you fought the British for your freedom either. And since most of you are from ancestors who came here after this happened, your ancestors did not fight to win your freedom from Britain either.

So without further ado, one of the greatest speeches in American history.

What To The Slave Is The 4th Of July?"
FREDERICK DOUGLASS SPEECH, 1852

Fellow citizens, pardon me, allow me to ask, why am I called upon to speak here today? What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national independence? Are the great principles of political freedom and of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of Independence, extended to us? and am I, therefore, called upon to bring our humble offering to the national altar, and to confess the benefits and express devout gratitude for the blessings resulting from your independence to us?

For the rest of the speech:

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/douglass.htm

Hey you racist fuck! Did you read it? Do you know it was in 1852? Do you know it is not 1852 right now?

How fucking stupidly racist are you really?

It's not 1776 right now either dumb ass.

That's irrelevant, you racist moron.

Oh it's relevant alright.

No idiot, it isn't and you lies won't make it so.

 

[flacaltenn]

Mod Note:

I've got 15 posts marked for deletion because they are ALL PERSONAL and contain no topical contribution. Gonna do this WITHOUT getting personal. Or at least -- we're gonna DISCUSS the specific topic IF you make it personal..

 

[Luddly Neddite]

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Go to Pinterest or Google for slavery images, Holocaust, war wounds,
Vivisection, congenital defects necessitating abortion, the treatment of so-called "food animals" and so on and so on.

OP - thanks for your OP.


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[PredFan]

 

[PredFan]

And none of you were here on July 4th, 1776, none of you fought the British for your freedom either. And since most of you are from ancestors who came here after this happened, your ancestors did not fight to win your freedom from Britain either.

So without further ado, one of the greatest speeches in American history.

What To The Slave Is The 4th Of July?"
FREDERICK DOUGLASS SPEECH, 1852

Fellow citizens, pardon me, allow me to ask, why am I called upon to speak here today? What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national independence? Are the great principles of political freedom and of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of Independence, extended to us? and am I, therefore, called upon to bring our humble offering to the national altar, and to confess the benefits and express devout gratitude for the blessings resulting from your independence to us?

For the rest of the speech:

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/douglass.htm

This thread is dead, Fred. We are post racial, slavery is dead and gone. Things have changed since abolition, haven't you heard? Over 65 thousand anonymous white guys fought to free the slaves. Racism is bad, you are totally right about that. And why haven't blacks got over it? There is two sides to a equation. Lets be honest here, why haven't blacks tried harder to get over this racial inertia? That's is the bigger question. What the hell does it take?

No white guys fought to free the slaves. But this thread is about the fourth of July. A day that happened 240 years ago which means its too long ago to be celebrated or discussed by your standards, it is too old for this because none of you were here on July 4th , 1776. because this happened 241 years ago, it is irrelevant to today based upon the argument many of you have made.

Really? I am trying hard to figure out what the hell you saying here. As a one to one human thing. Yes, a bunch of white people died to end slavery. We all get that slavery was bad. It's gone with the freakin' wind. 150 + years ago. Limbaugh is like Colbert or Kathy Griffin. Entertainers that use outrage like waving a a red flag in front of a bull. We get it.

And none of you were here on July 4th, 1776, none of you fought the British for your freedom either. And since most of you are from ancestors who came here after this happened, your ancestors did not fight to win your freedom from Britain either.

So without further ado, one of the greatest speeches in American history.

What To The Slave Is The 4th Of July?"
FREDERICK DOUGLASS SPEECH, 1852

Fellow citizens, pardon me, allow me to ask, why am I called upon to speak here today? What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national independence? Are the great principles of political freedom and of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of Independence, extended to us? and am I, therefore, called upon to bring our humble offering to the national altar, and to confess the benefits and express devout gratitude for the blessings resulting from your independence to us?

For the rest of the speech:

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/douglass.htm

This thread is dead, Fred. We are post racial, slavery is dead and gone. Things have changed since abolition, haven't you heard? Over 65 thousand anonymous white guys fought to free the slaves. Racism is bad, you are totally right about that. And why haven't blacks got over it? There is two sides to a equation. Lets be honest here, why haven't blacks tried harder to get over this racial inertia? That's is the bigger question. What the hell does it take?

No white guys fought to free the slaves. But this thread is about the fourth of July. A day that happened 240 years ago which means its too long ago to be celebrated or discussed by your standards, it is too old for this because none of you were here on July 4th , 1776. because this happened 241 years ago, it is irrelevant to today based upon the argument many of you have made.

Really? I am trying hard to figure out what the hell you saying here. As a one to one human thing. Yes, a bunch of white people died to end slavery. We all get that slavery was bad. It's gone with the freakin' wind. 150 + years ago. Limbaugh is like Colbert or Kathy Griffin. Entertainers that use outrage like waving a a red flag in front of a bull. We get it.

yes the United states has been without slavery almost twice as long as it had it

Actually the US had slaves beginning in 1640. But this thread is not about the white folks claims of how slavery is over.and how it was 150 years ago s get over it. The issue here is that July 4, 1776 was 241 years ago and by your own standard things that happened that long ago are irrelevant today.

No, they are not irrelevant, no one said they were irrelevant you are just making shit up. The country was founded on this day 241 years ago, that is far from irrelevant. What a slave thought about it is irrelevant due to the fact that that salve isn't alive today and we have no slaves. The celebration is relevant, your racist diatribe isn't.

 

[jon_berzerk]

This thread is dead, Fred. We are post racial, slavery is dead and gone. Things have changed since abolition, haven't you heard? Over 65 thousand anonymous white guys fought to free the slaves. Racism is bad, you are totally right about that. And why haven't blacks got over it? There is two sides to a equation. Lets be honest here, why haven't blacks tried harder to get over this racial inertia? That's is the bigger question. What the hell does it take?

No white guys fought to free the slaves. But this thread is about the fourth of July. A day that happened 240 years ago which means its too long ago to be celebrated or discussed by your standards, it is too old for this because none of you were here on July 4th , 1776. because this happened 241 years ago, it is irrelevant to today based upon the argument many of you have made.

Really? I am trying hard to figure out what the hell you saying here. As a one to one human thing. Yes, a bunch of white people died to end slavery. We all get that slavery was bad. It's gone with the freakin' wind. 150 + years ago. Limbaugh is like Colbert or Kathy Griffin. Entertainers that use outrage like waving a a red flag in front of a bull. We get it.

This thread is dead, Fred. We are post racial, slavery is dead and gone. Things have changed since abolition, haven't you heard? Over 65 thousand anonymous white guys fought to free the slaves. Racism is bad, you are totally right about that. And why haven't blacks got over it? There is two sides to a equation. Lets be honest here, why haven't blacks tried harder to get over this racial inertia? That's is the bigger question. What the hell does it take?

No white guys fought to free the slaves. But this thread is about the fourth of July. A day that happened 240 years ago which means its too long ago to be celebrated or discussed by your standards, it is too old for this because none of you were here on July 4th , 1776. because this happened 241 years ago, it is irrelevant to today based upon the argument many of you have made.

Really? I am trying hard to figure out what the hell you saying here. As a one to one human thing. Yes, a bunch of white people died to end slavery. We all get that slavery was bad. It's gone with the freakin' wind. 150 + years ago. Limbaugh is like Colbert or Kathy Griffin. Entertainers that use outrage like waving a a red flag in front of a bull. We get it.

yes the United states has been without slavery almost twice as long as it had it

Actually the US had slaves beginning in 1640. But this thread is not about the white folks claims of how slavery is over.and how it was 150 years ago s get over it. The issue here is that July 4, 1776 was 241 years ago and by your own standard things that happened that long ago are irrelevant today.

No, they are not irrelevant, no one said they were irrelevant you are just making shit up. The country was founded on this day 241 years ago, that is far from irrelevant. What a slave thought about it is irrelevant due to the fact that that salve isn't alive today and we have no slaves. The celebration is relevant, your racist diatribe isn't.

exactly