What is your answer to Seattle’s problem? Also the nation’s problem?

[Disgruntled_American]

Oh no, you think my comment is dumb, whatever will I do?

You demonstrate more about your ignorance than anything else if you belief left=evil and right=good. At least I think man.

You'll probably stick your head back up your dumb ass.

And if I did that I still would be smarter than you.

Not if you think being a fence riding moderate no one can trust is a good thing.

I'm not a fence rider at all, I've made my choice. None of the above. I don't vote for lesser of the two evils when it is still evil you're voting for.

Depends on how you define evil.

Are you saying you're not going to vote?

In Nevada I can do write ins or third party. I'll vote but not for Dem or GOP.

 

[Disgruntled_American]

Oh no, you think my comment is dumb, whatever will I do?

You demonstrate more about your ignorance than anything else if you belief left=evil and right=good. At least I think man.

You'll probably stick your head back up your dumb ass.

And if I did that I still would be smarter than you.

Not if you think being a fence riding moderate no one can trust is a good thing.

There are no moderates any more. There is left and right and that's it. Anyone claiming to be a moderate is a leftist deluded into denying their biases.

A leftist to gutless to admit what they are. Just look at JakeStarkey.

Ah a fascist righty that thinks if you don't vote for my candidate you are a leftist.

 

[Disgruntled_American]

Oh no, you think my comment is dumb, whatever will I do?

You demonstrate more about your ignorance than anything else if you belief left=evil and right=good. At least I think man.

You'll probably stick your head back up your dumb ass.

And if I did that I still would be smarter than you.

Not if you think being a fence riding moderate no one can trust is a good thing.

I'm not a fence rider at all, I've made my choice. None of the above. I don't vote for lesser of the two evils when it is still evil you're voting for.

Still waiting for your explanation as to why blue cities have homeless crises and red cities do not.

I've already said it because they don't have the same programs, population, and situations. Why are red states constantly taking more federal money than blue states?

 

[Conservative65]

You'll probably stick your head back up your dumb ass.

And if I did that I still would be smarter than you.

Not if you think being a fence riding moderate no one can trust is a good thing.

I'm not a fence rider at all, I've made my choice. None of the above. I don't vote for lesser of the two evils when it is still evil you're voting for.

Depends on how you define evil.

Are you saying you're not going to vote?

In Nevada I can do write ins or third party. I'll vote but not for Dem or GOP.

I voted 3rd party in 2008. Didn't like what the Republicans offered and damn sure wasn't going to vote for a socialist.

 

[Spinster]

[ But my question is, is being homeless the same as being homeless but the city offers food every day and shelter every night? If that is the case, that is far better than sleeping on the streets. Maybe San Diego is caring better for them?

Yes, San Diego "IS" caring for them better. I even listed the government programs that help with the homeless.

Ok, thanks. DId not read your link. So if we can at least care for the homeless then homelessness is not as serious, at least for single adults. And San Diego is apparently doing so.

Which does not really take on the greater problem for this nation and that is mental illness. It is one thing to walk around looking for a job or "hanging out." But quite another to be mentally ill and not sure what that person's next move might be. Not only is mental illness not being treated nearly enough in this nation, there is not even proper treatments available for many of these conditions. Again, I think for some their only hope is God.

My main point is that Seattle needs better programs not God. You can pray to God all you want, but that isn't going to put food on your table or give you shelter from the elements.

Part of Seattle's problem is climate related, just like Portland Oregon, San Fran, LA, and Diego. These are mild climates, so not particularly miserable to be sleeping outside in winter. The issue with increased minimum wage is most homeless are drug addicts or mentally ill. They have no desire to work and become main stream. Homelessness for a large percentage is a CHOICE. We who aren't don't comprehend that decision. As a result of the higher minimum wage, tons of jobs have been lost due to economic cutbacks of staff the small businesses were forced to make to accommodate the increase. Economy is a fine balance, one which can easily be upset with sweeping legislature and mandates. For those who are unaware, Washington currently has an extremely liberal Governor, and greater Seattle/Tacoma has been trying to follow his wishes because it is all about politics. Fortunately, the Governor's reign is coming to an end soon, so there will likely be some changes other than just at the capital level.

 

[Conservative65]

You'll probably stick your head back up your dumb ass.

And if I did that I still would be smarter than you.

Not if you think being a fence riding moderate no one can trust is a good thing.

There are no moderates any more. There is left and right and that's it. Anyone claiming to be a moderate is a leftist deluded into denying their biases.

A leftist to gutless to admit what they are. Just look at JakeStarkey.

Ah a fascist righty that thinks if you don't vote for my candidate you are a leftist.

Since things have evolved into one or the other politically, if you don't vote one way there isn't but one more option in a real sense.

 

[Disgruntled_American]

And if I did that I still would be smarter than you.

Not if you think being a fence riding moderate no one can trust is a good thing.

I'm not a fence rider at all, I've made my choice. None of the above. I don't vote for lesser of the two evils when it is still evil you're voting for.

Depends on how you define evil.

Are you saying you're not going to vote?

In Nevada I can do write ins or third party. I'll vote but not for Dem or GOP.

I voted 3rd party in 2008. Didn't like what the Republicans offered and damn sure wasn't going to vote for a socialist.

Well according to your logic you were a worthless fence sitter in 2008 since that is what you are accusing me of because I won't vote for YOUR candidate.

 

[Conservative65]

Not if you think being a fence riding moderate no one can trust is a good thing.

I'm not a fence rider at all, I've made my choice. None of the above. I don't vote for lesser of the two evils when it is still evil you're voting for.

Depends on how you define evil.

Are you saying you're not going to vote?

In Nevada I can do write ins or third party. I'll vote but not for Dem or GOP.

I voted 3rd party in 2008. Didn't like what the Republicans offered and damn sure wasn't going to vote for a socialist.

Well according to your logic you were a worthless fence sitter in 2008 since that is what you are accusing me of because I won't vote for YOUR candidate.

I actually voted for a Conservative candidate. The one the Republicans offered wasn't so I chose a 3rd party that met the ideology I support.

 

[Disgruntled_American]

And if I did that I still would be smarter than you.

Not if you think being a fence riding moderate no one can trust is a good thing.

There are no moderates any more. There is left and right and that's it. Anyone claiming to be a moderate is a leftist deluded into denying their biases.

A leftist to gutless to admit what they are. Just look at JakeStarkey.

Ah a fascist righty that thinks if you don't vote for my candidate you are a leftist.

Since things have evolved into one or the other politically, if you don't vote one way there isn't but one more option in a real sense.

And your thinking is why this country is in the mess it is in now. Most people are more concerned with "their" side winning rather than actually solving the problems. BOTH the Dems and the GOP have put us in the mess we are in now.

 

[Disgruntled_American]

I'm not a fence rider at all, I've made my choice. None of the above. I don't vote for lesser of the two evils when it is still evil you're voting for.

Depends on how you define evil.

Are you saying you're not going to vote?

In Nevada I can do write ins or third party. I'll vote but not for Dem or GOP.

I voted 3rd party in 2008. Didn't like what the Republicans offered and damn sure wasn't going to vote for a socialist.

Well according to your logic you were a worthless fence sitter in 2008 since that is what you are accusing me of because I won't vote for YOUR candidate.

I actually voted for a Conservative candidate. The one the Republicans offered wasn't so I chose a 3rd party that met the ideology I support.

So you think EVERYTHING that is conservative is good and EVERYTHING liberal is bad?

 

[ClosedCaption]

I'm a liberal and thats not what I said at all. Either you can talk to me or you can address those liberals you make up in your head who are telling you things, just dont quote me because it makes people think you're actually responding to something I said.

I didn't say you said it. I said that's what Liberals believe.

Yes but you quoted me while making a declaration that you know what an entire group of people believe.

Like I said, you can debate me or talk to the images you have of liberals. Just dont quote people while you talk to the liberal ghosts who upset you so much

A quote involves saying exactly what you said. I didn't.

Thats not how the quote button works.

That's exactly how a quote works.

Quote - to repeat or copy out a group of words.

I didn't quote you or what I posted would be exactly what you posted.

Quote button...Focus on the word BUTTON

 

[Disgruntled_American]

[ But my question is, is being homeless the same as being homeless but the city offers food every day and shelter every night? If that is the case, that is far better than sleeping on the streets. Maybe San Diego is caring better for them?

Yes, San Diego "IS" caring for them better. I even listed the government programs that help with the homeless.

Ok, thanks. DId not read your link. So if we can at least care for the homeless then homelessness is not as serious, at least for single adults. And San Diego is apparently doing so.

Which does not really take on the greater problem for this nation and that is mental illness. It is one thing to walk around looking for a job or "hanging out." But quite another to be mentally ill and not sure what that person's next move might be. Not only is mental illness not being treated nearly enough in this nation, there is not even proper treatments available for many of these conditions. Again, I think for some their only hope is God.

I've been to Seattle many times and it is extremely cold there much of the time especially at night. Not sure where you think it is mild.


My main point is that Seattle needs better programs not God. You can pray to God all you want, but that isn't going to put food on your table or give you shelter from the elements.

Part of Seattle's problem is climate related, just like Portland Oregon, San Fran, LA, and Diego. These are mild climates, so not particularly miserable to be sleeping outside in winter. The issue with increased minimum wage is most homeless are drug addicts or mentally ill. They have no desire to work and become main stream. Homelessness for a large percentage is a CHOICE. We who aren't don't comprehend that decision. As a result of the higher minimum wage, tons of jobs have been lost due to economic cutbacks of staff the small businesses were forced to make to accommodate the increase. Economy is a fine balance, one which can easily be upset with sweeping legislature and mandates. For those who are unaware, Washington currently has an extremely liberal Governor, and greater Seattle/Tacoma has been trying to follow his wishes because it is all about politics. Fortunately, the Governor's reign is coming to an end soon, so there will likely be some changes other than just at the capital level.

 

[Weatherman2020]

In WW2 Americans said Germans were the enemy.
Did every American say that? No.
Was every German an enemy? No.

Only an idiot can't grasp the generalization though.

In regards to political affiliations, yes, generalizations are worthless. Only an idiot can't grasp that.

I'm a JFK Conservative.
Grasp that.

 

[Disgruntled_American]

In WW2 Americans said Germans were the enemy.
Did every American say that? No.
Was every German an enemy? No.

Only an idiot can't grasp the generalization though.

In regards to political affiliations, yes, generalizations are worthless. Only an idiot can't grasp that.

I'm a JFK Conservative.
Grasp that.

Good for you, do you want a cookie?

 

[Conservative65]

You'll probably stick your head back up your dumb ass.

And if I did that I still would be smarter than you.

Not if you think being a fence riding moderate no one can trust is a good thing.

I'm not a fence rider at all, I've made my choice. None of the above. I don't vote for lesser of the two evils when it is still evil you're voting for.

Still waiting for your explanation as to why blue cities have homeless crises and red cities do not.

I've already said it because they don't have the same programs, population, and situations. Why are red states constantly taking more federal money than blue states?

In my State, one commonly referenced as what you did, the only blue district in the state is the poorest by far. In fact, in a ranking of congressional districts and where they stood when it came to social welfare money received, that blue district ranked as high as 10 and the lower the number isn't good. The closet red district in my state in that same ranking was somewhere in the 80s. What that means is the blue district received so much, it made it appear as if the part making it a red states was the problem. Strange how things are different when you look at the details.

 

[Conservative65]

I didn't say you said it. I said that's what Liberals believe.

Yes but you quoted me while making a declaration that you know what an entire group of people believe.

Like I said, you can debate me or talk to the images you have of liberals. Just dont quote people while you talk to the liberal ghosts who upset you so much

A quote involves saying exactly what you said. I didn't.

Thats not how the quote button works.

That's exactly how a quote works.

Quote - to repeat or copy out a group of words.

I didn't quote you or what I posted would be exactly what you posted.

Quote button...Focus on the word BUTTON

I hit the reply button, focus on reply.

 

[Weatherman2020]

In WW2 Americans said Germans were the enemy.
Did every American say that? No.
Was every German an enemy? No.

Only an idiot can't grasp the generalization though.

In regards to political affiliations, yes, generalizations are worthless. Only an idiot can't grasp that.

I'm a JFK Conservative.
Grasp that.

Good for you, do you want a cookie?

Says the person who lacks the intelligence to grasp generalizations.

 

[Conservative65]

Depends on how you define evil.

Are you saying you're not going to vote?

In Nevada I can do write ins or third party. I'll vote but not for Dem or GOP.

I voted 3rd party in 2008. Didn't like what the Republicans offered and damn sure wasn't going to vote for a socialist.

Well according to your logic you were a worthless fence sitter in 2008 since that is what you are accusing me of because I won't vote for YOUR candidate.

I actually voted for a Conservative candidate. The one the Republicans offered wasn't so I chose a 3rd party that met the ideology I support.

So you think EVERYTHING that is conservative is good and EVERYTHING liberal is bad?

Since the only thing Liberals seem to be saying centers around rich people don't pay their fair share while believing half not paying any income taxes is fair, people have rights to things for which the Constitution grants none, and compassion involves seeing how much you can get someone else forced to pay for what you believe, I'd say yes, everything Liberal is bad. That doesn't mean everything conservative is good but there's enough for me to side that way every time.

 

[Disgruntled_American]

And if I did that I still would be smarter than you.

Not if you think being a fence riding moderate no one can trust is a good thing.

I'm not a fence rider at all, I've made my choice. None of the above. I don't vote for lesser of the two evils when it is still evil you're voting for.

Still waiting for your explanation as to why blue cities have homeless crises and red cities do not.

I've already said it because they don't have the same programs, population, and situations. Why are red states constantly taking more federal money than blue states?

In my State, one commonly referenced as what you did, the only blue district in the state is the poorest by far. In fact, in a ranking of congressional districts and where they stood when it came to social welfare money received, that blue district ranked as high as 10 and the lower the number isn't good. The closet red district in my state in that same ranking was somewhere in the 80s. What that means is the blue district received so much, it made it appear as if the part making it a red states was the problem. Strange how things are different when you look at the details.

You have a governor yes? Obviously he isn't doing his job then. Still a state problem.

 

[Disgruntled_American]

In WW2 Americans said Germans were the enemy.
Did every American say that? No.
Was every German an enemy? No.

Only an idiot can't grasp the generalization though.

In regards to political affiliations, yes, generalizations are worthless. Only an idiot can't grasp that.

I'm a JFK Conservative.
Grasp that.

Good for you, do you want a cookie?

Says the person who lacks the intelligence to grasp generalizations.

Oh I grasp them just fine. I just don't use them like other idiotic douchebags do. Instead I actually..../GASP....think for myself. Unlike your retarded ass.