What is White Supremacy?

[IM2]

And as an information-deprived, liberal, victim of liberal Omission media, you still don't know why white women are among AA's fiercest critics ?

I find it hard to believe that I have not already educated you to this, but for the 300th time or so, the number of white women gaining from AA, is a drop in the bucket compared to the many millions of white daughters and wives of white men discriminated against. Ho hum.

And in many AA programs, white women are discriminated against too, as are Hispanics and Asians, with only blacks being the beneficiaries.

Most white males in the early 1970's when affirmative action became the law of the land could not get good jobs out of high school. Minorities and women were put on the top of the list. White women cleaned up as they entered the work force enmasse. Lots of fun I tell you. Before that white males were dominant. To be the second half of the baby boomer white males was not the best time.

Bullshit.

There you go again. I experienced it. There were many others that experienced it. Applying for employment at electric companies, gas work companies, post office, police departments, and on and on. If the people masquerading as newsmen actually did their work they would report it. Those white guys who went to college at that time still had opportunities as the universities were not infected yet. I will never forget it. Even after leaving the military and getting some points for job tests it still existed.

I experienced being black during the same time. You were not discriminated against. Those businesses were forced to hire because the had discriminated against minorities and women. Even then, white men were still discriminating against people of color and women.

You are complaining because whites could no longer discriminate by law.

Imbecile. Not only was I discriminated against at my graduate school, thereby wrecking my career, but so was another Hispanic besides me, plus 2 Asians, and 7 women, plus all the whites.

Only blacks got AA assistantships . Pure black privilege racism, that the college administrators should have been jailed for.

That's a lie.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Behavior is more important than intelligence.
Hard working decent people tend to be more productive and successful regardless of their race.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

What is White Supremacy?

I realised White Supremacy is not evil. White Supremacy only means that whites are more intelligent and more capable. And through this they are guardians of the creature. Of all creature and of all other humans. Just like the Bible says it is the humans who guard the creature and who are the overlords. That doesnt mean they abuse or mistreat the creature, they are just not like the others though. Just like humans are kind to animals and animals are your pets and love you and are faithful but humans are not animals themselfes. You should be kind to animals and treat them well and guard them. You are their master, you should protect them, feed them, guard them, love them. The dog also loves you and he is faithful. I disagree though with some animal rights activists who depict humans as animals or below animals, humans are not animals. Humans are the guardians of animals but they are not animals themselfes. I heard people saying "humans are also just animals".

That means White Supremacy. Whether you agree or disagree and science will reveal if Whites are really more intelligent. If they are and it is science, we shouldnt denie it.

White supremacy in it's most benign form is a belief, not fact, that the white race is superior to all other races and that being born into the white race means one is a superior indivdual to any other individual not of the white race.

In it's most pernicuous form, it is a system of laws, government policies, practices, social mores, court rulings, etc. which enforce this belief resulting in the subjugation of and discrimination against non-whites, specifically in the United States those designated to be of "African descent". This system of institutional racism which legally rationalized, justified and allowed crimes to be committed against black people which currently are forbidden and in fact where forbidden to be committed against white people is what allow white racists to plunder the lives and resources however meager initially, of an entire race of people. This is what they're referring to as "superiority" and denigrating black people for not having been able to prevent. It is more than telling that these laws that were passed to basically "contain" the black race included some of the first gun control laws in the country. The white racists were adament that black could not be able to take up arms even in their own defense against the Klan or any other white person meaning them harm to the extent that they were prohibited from owning dogs, who could be used for protection.

This is not superiority, this a brutal dominion enforced by white laws specifically against black people and enforced at the end of gun under the threat of loss of life, loss of freedom and/or a life of hard labor which is little more than a return to slavery. This is American Apartheid. And the term "White Priviledge" stems from the obvious benefit of being born into the white race with all of it's societal, and legal benefits that are built in that one inherits by mere membership:

Apartheid - Wikipedia​

 

[Porter Rockwell]

White supremacy is a term generally associated with the current new-nazi wack job types. Among decent people in this country, the term generally carries a negative connotation, and conjures images of inbred ingrates wearing sheets with small weenies and ugly women, but that’s just my impression.

It is inaccurate, but the left wing / liberal / socialist/ communist combine writes the rules and to the victor goes the spoils.

You're a white supremacist.

If you say so. Actually, I would not want to rule over you, just send you somewhere to a place you'd be happy to be. That, at least, makes me intolerant of your incessant racism.

 

[IM2]

White supremacy is a term generally associated with the current new-nazi wack job types. Among decent people in this country, the term generally carries a negative connotation, and conjures images of inbred ingrates wearing sheets with small weenies and ugly women, but that’s just my impression.

It is inaccurate, but the left wing / liberal / socialist/ communist combine writes the rules and to the victor goes the spoils.

You're a white supremacist.

If you say so. Actually, I would not want to rule over you, just send you somewhere to a place you'd be happy to be. That, at least, makes me intolerant of your incessant racism.

You're the one claiming America was founded for white people and the 14th amendment is illegal. That's what white supremacists believe. I am not the racist here and if you don't like what e pluribus unum is, you can move somewhere to a place you'd be happy to be.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

The matter of ethnicity and intelligence simply cannot be discussed in public, not even in university classrooms.

This is a topic that is discussed only in private.

In fact, if it were ever "proved" that the Martians, for example, are more intelligent than the inhabitants of Earth, that information would have to be suppressed, lest it give human beings an inferiority complex.

As I understand it, most websites will not even allow a discussion of this topic. Received wisdom holds that both Martians and human beings are equally intelligent. Any deviation from this position constitutes "hate speech" and is prohibited.

That's because there is no relationship between ethnicity and intelligence. Forums like this are evidence of this reality.

the Asians are smarter than blacks

And the Muppets are smarter than U.S. Message Board member harmonica

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

What is White Supremacy?

I realised White Supremacy is not evil. White Supremacy only means that whites are more intelligent and more capable. And through this they are guardians of the creature. Of all creature and of all other humans. Just like the Bible says it is the humans who guard the creature and who are the overlords. That doesnt mean they abuse or mistreat the creature, they are just not like the others though. Just like humans are kind to animals and animals are your pets and love you and are faithful but humans are not animals themselfes. You should be kind to animals and treat them well and guard them. You are their master, you should protect them, feed them, guard them, love them. The dog also loves you and he is faithful. I disagree though with some animal rights activists who depict humans as animals or below animals, humans are not animals. Humans are the guardians of animals but they are not animals themselfes. I heard people saying "humans are also just animals".

That means White Supremacy. Whether you agree or disagree and science will reveal if Whites are really more intelligent. If they are and it is science, we shouldnt denie it.

Asians are more intelligent than whites.

So bow to your Chinese master!

Like all second and and third worlders they're smart enough to know that self hating white western leftwingers are idiots and tools

Baizuo's

Is it just jealousy of white western exceptionalism and excellence that they hate ?


Inferiority complexes ?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

When did speaking out against the racism by whites become racism?

In 1961, when Affirmative Action began, making blacks the beneficiaries of racism, and whites the victims.

Since that didn't happen, you didn't answer the question.

That did happen, by JFK, and again in 1965, by LBJ. You can't change history.

Definition of fact: 1 a : something that has actual existence ·space exploration is now a fact b : an actual occurrence ·prove the fact of damage 2 : a piece of information presented as having objective reality ·These are the hard facts of the case. 3 : the quality of being actual : actuality ·a question of fact hinges on evidence 4 : a thing done: such as a : crime ·accessory after the fact b archaic : action c obsolete : feat

Fact-

Affirmative Action and What It Means for Women

Affirmative action programs make a difference. A government study showed that women made greater gains in employment at companies doing business with the federal government, and therefore subject to federal affirmative action requirements, than at other companies: female employment rose 15.2% at federal contractors, and only 2.2% elsewhere. The same study showed that federal contractors employed women at higher levels and in better paying jobs than other firms.(40)

Many individual companies that have adopted affirmative action plans have demonstrated the impact on women. For example, after IBM set up its affirmative action program, its number of female officials and managers more than tripled in less than ten years.(41) Corporate commitment to women and minorities enabled Corning to double its number of female and black employees and increase the proportion of women managers to 29%.(42) Motorola has been rewarded with an increased representation of women and people of color in upper-level management. The company had two women and six persons of color as vice president in 1989, but boasts 33 female and 40 minority vice presidents today.(43)

Affirmative action requirements have changed entire industries. In 1978, the Labor Department’s Office of Federal Contract Compliance (OFCCP) reviewed the employment practices of the five largest banks in Cleveland. Three years later, the percentage of women officials and managers at these institutions had risen more than 20%. When OFCCP first looked at the coal mining industry in 1973, there were no women coal miners. By 1980, 8.7% were women.(44)

Litigation against police and fire departments has resulted in affirmative action plans that have produced dramatic increases in the employment of women (and minorities) in these fields as well.(45) In 1983, for example, women made up 9.4% of the nation’s police, and 1% of firefighters. Sixteen years later, women are 16.9% of police, and 2.8% of firefighters.(46)

Women-owned businesses, which have also benefitted from affirmative action requirements, have increased since 1987 by 103%. Today, there are nearly 9.1 million woman-owned businesses, employing over 27.5 million people.(47)

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Affirmative Action and What It Means for Women | NWLC

Affirmative Action Is Great For White Women. So Why Do They Hate It? | HuffPost

The People Who Benefit Most From Affirmative Action Are The White Women Who Oppose It

STFU.

Go Big Blue!

Thanks so much for posting this IM2! I keep forgetting that they all view Affirmative Action as a "black" law in spite of the verbiage of the law being race neutral:

In 1961, President John F. Kennedy issued an executive order mandating government contractors to
"take affirmative action to ensure that applicants are employed, and that employees are treated during
employment, without regard to their race, creed, color, or national origin." ( Executive Order 10925)​

 

[katsteve2012]

When did speaking out against the racism by whites become racism?

In 1961, when Affirmative Action began, making blacks the beneficiaries of racism, and whites the victims.

Sure. AA was introduced in 1961, and magically overnight, millions of black people displaced millions of white people in the work force and colleges.

Jim Crow had not even been totally abolished in 1961, you dumbass.

SMGDH.

A 1995 report by the California Senate Government Organization Committee found that white women held a majority of managerial jobs (57,250) compared with African Americans (10,500), Latinos (19,000), and Asian Americans (24,600) after the first two decades of affirmative action in the private sector.

In 2015, a disproportionate representation of white women business owners set off concerns that New York state would not be able to bridge a racial gap among public contractors.
who tripled between 1970 and 2002, from 7.6 percent to 25.2 percent, and in 2009 women were receiving a majority of bachelor's, master's, and doctoral degrees, according to the American Association of University Women. To be clear, these numbers include women of all races; however, breaking down affirmative action beneficiaries by race and gender seems to be rare in reported data.

Contrary to popular belief, affirmative action isn't just black. It's white, too. But affirmative action's white female faces are rarely at the center of the conversation.



Source:
White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

And as an information-deprived, liberal, victim of liberal Omission media, you still don't know why white women are among AA's fiercest critics ?

I find it hard to believe that I have not already educated you to this, but for the 300th time or so, the number of white women gaining from AA, is a drop in the bucket compared to the many millions of white daughters and wives of white men discriminated against. Ho hum.

And in many AA programs, white women are discriminated against too, as are Hispanics and Asians, with only blacks being the beneficiaries.

Nonsense. Until you can produce any credible facts which refute the success of white females since the implementation of AA, as well as statistical proof of blacks that have benefitted from AA at the expense of "millions of whites" as you claim, you are just typing incoherent gibberish as usual.

Your made up BS does not count as a credible source.

Oh yeah right, like you really need "statistical proof" to ascertain that blacks benefitted from AA at the expense of millions of whites. Lol

Do you have any idea how idiotic you sound ? Actually, the word shouldn't be " millions", it should be hundreds of millions
Do you know how many hundreds of millions of whites have lived in America over the past 59 years ? (counting all births and deaths turnover)

Yes. In fact you should produce statistical information to support what has literally been made up bullshit so far.

Mathematically your assertion that "hundreds of millions of whites" have been victims because of blacks benefitting from AA is ludicrous.

This is America, you retard. And based on the history of this country, there would be anarchy in the streets if "hundreds of millions" of whites were victimized to "benefit blacks"

How in the hell can a population of 38 million blacks benefit at the expense of nearly times as many whites?
U.S. labor statistics prove what you are stating to be a flat out, blatant lie.

When did speaking out against the racism by whites become racism?

In 1961, when Affirmative Action began, making blacks the beneficiaries of racism, and whites the victims.

Sure. AA was introduced in 1961, and magically overnight, millions of black people displaced millions of white people in the work force and colleges.

Jim Crow had not even been totally abolished in 1961, you dumbass.

SMGDH.

A 1995 report by the California Senate Government Organization Committee found that white women held a majority of managerial jobs (57,250) compared with African Americans (10,500), Latinos (19,000), and Asian Americans (24,600) after the first two decades of affirmative action in the private sector.

In 2015, a disproportionate representation of white women business owners set off concerns that New York state would not be able to bridge a racial gap among public contractors.
who tripled between 1970 and 2002, from 7.6 percent to 25.2 percent, and in 2009 women were receiving a majority of bachelor's, master's, and doctoral degrees, according to the American Association of University Women. To be clear, these numbers include women of all races; however, breaking down affirmative action beneficiaries by race and gender seems to be rare in reported data.

Contrary to popular belief, affirmative action isn't just black. It's white, too. But affirmative action's white female faces are rarely at the center of the conversation.



Source:
White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

And as an information-deprived, liberal, victim of liberal Omission media, you still don't know why white women are among AA's fiercest critics ?

I find it hard to believe that I have not already educated you to this, but for the 300th time or so, the number of white women gaining from AA, is a drop in the bucket compared to the many millions of white daughters and wives of white men discriminated against. Ho hum.

And in many AA programs, white women are discriminated against too, as are Hispanics and Asians, with only blacks being the beneficiaries.

Nonsense. Until you can produce any credible facts which refute the success of white females since the implementation of AA, as well as statistical proof of blacks that have benefitted from AA at the expense of "millions of whites" as you claim, you are just typing incoherent gibberish as usual.

Your made up BS does not count as a credible source.

Oh yeah right, like you really need "statistical proof" to ascertain that blacks benefitted from AA at the expense of millions of whites. Lol

Do you have any idea how idiotic you sound ? Actually, the word shouldn't be " millions", it should be hundreds of millions
Do you know how many hundreds of millions of whites have lived in America over the past 59 years ? (counting all births and deaths turnover)

For one who often boasts about his educational background, your logic and common sense is nonexistent.

You should produce statistical information to support what has literally been made up bullshit so far by you.

Mathematically your assertion that "hundreds of millions of whites" have been victims because of blacks benefitting from AA is ludicrous.

This is America, you idiot, and based on the history of this country, there would be anarchy in the streets if "hundreds of millions of whites" were victimized to "benefit blacks".

In fact, in 1961, when AA was first passed, Jim Crow was still in existence in the south and nearly 60% of the black population resided in the south during the 1960's.

If blacks had benefitted at the expense of whites in ANY way in that geographical region during that era, there would have been a million white sheet wearing nuts like you declaring open season on blacks, you damn fool.

Furthermore, since the introduction of AA, the black population at it peak has never exceeded 34 to 38 million, and out of those 34 to 38 million, those who were employable and of working and college age totaled far less than the entire total of that demographic.

How in the hell can "A PART" of a population of 38 million blacks benefit at the expense of nearly 3 times as many white people?

That is the DUMBEST statemen ever made in this forum. Even for you.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

White supremacy is a term generally associated with the current new-nazi wack job types. Among decent people in this country, the term generally carries a negative connotation, and conjures images of inbred ingrates wearing sheets with small weenies and ugly women, but that’s just my impression.

It is inaccurate, but the left wing / liberal / socialist/ communist combine writes the rules and to the victor goes the spoils.

You're a white supremacist.

You're a black supremacist, racist pig.

Hey, someone who was crying and calling the police because his feelings were hurt when a poster here called him a dumbass, should not be calling anyone else names.

How well do you think that's going to play in your poor pitiful me elder abuse case?

 

[katsteve2012]

When did speaking out against the racism by whites become racism?

In 1961, when Affirmative Action began, making blacks the beneficiaries of racism, and whites the victims.

Sure. AA was introduced in 1961, and magically overnight, millions of black people displaced millions of white people in the work force and colleges.

Jim Crow had not even been totally abolished in 1961, you dumbass.

SMGDH.

A 1995 report by the California Senate Government Organization Committee found that white women held a majority of managerial jobs (57,250) compared with African Americans (10,500), Latinos (19,000), and Asian Americans (24,600) after the first two decades of affirmative action in the private sector.

In 2015, a disproportionate representation of white women business owners set off concerns that New York state would not be able to bridge a racial gap among public contractors.
who tripled between 1970 and 2002, from 7.6 percent to 25.2 percent, and in 2009 women were receiving a majority of bachelor's, master's, and doctoral degrees, according to the American Association of University Women. To be clear, these numbers include women of all races; however, breaking down affirmative action beneficiaries by race and gender seems to be rare in reported data.

Contrary to popular belief, affirmative action isn't just black. It's white, too. But affirmative action's white female faces are rarely at the center of the conversation.



Source:
White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

And as an information-deprived, liberal, victim of liberal Omission media, you still don't know why white women are among AA's fiercest critics ?

I find it hard to believe that I have not already educated you to this, but for the 300th time or so, the number of white women gaining from AA, is a drop in the bucket compared to the many millions of white daughters and wives of white men discriminated against. Ho hum.

And in many AA programs, white women are discriminated against too, as are Hispanics and Asians, with only blacks being the beneficiaries.

Go take your medication. Your off the rails.

 

[katsteve2012]

When did speaking out against the racism by whites become racism?

In 1961, when Affirmative Action began, making blacks the beneficiaries of racism, and whites the victims.

Sure. AA was introduced in 1961, and magically overnight, millions of black people displaced millions of white people in the work force and colleges.

Jim Crow had not even been totally abolished in 1961, you dumbass.

SMGDH.

A 1995 report by the California Senate Government Organization Committee found that white women held a majority of managerial jobs (57,250) compared with African Americans (10,500), Latinos (19,000), and Asian Americans (24,600) after the first two decades of affirmative action in the private sector.

In 2015, a disproportionate representation of white women business owners set off concerns that New York state would not be able to bridge a racial gap among public contractors.
who tripled between 1970 and 2002, from 7.6 percent to 25.2 percent, and in 2009 women were receiving a majority of bachelor's, master's, and doctoral degrees, according to the American Association of University Women. To be clear, these numbers include women of all races; however, breaking down affirmative action beneficiaries by race and gender seems to be rare in reported data.

Contrary to popular belief, affirmative action isn't just black. It's white, too. But affirmative action's white female faces are rarely at the center of the conversation.



Source:
White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

And as an information-deprived, liberal, victim of liberal Omission media, you still don't know why white women are among AA's fiercest critics ?

I find it hard to believe that I have not already educated you to this, but for the 300th time or so, the number of white women gaining from AA, is a drop in the bucket compared to the many millions of white daughters and wives of white men discriminated against. Ho hum.

And in many AA programs, white women are discriminated against too, as are Hispanics and Asians, with only blacks being the beneficiaries.

Nonsense. Until you can produce any credible facts which refute the success of white females since the implementation of AA, as well as statistical proof of blacks that have benefitted from AA at the expense of "millions of whites" as you claim, you are just typing incoherent gibberish as usual.

Your made up BS does not count as a credible source.

Here is yet another example of liberal mind set thinking it is in control of everyone.
As I've Posted many times, liberals always try to put issues into a box of what they call a "credible source". And invariably, these so,-called credible sources of theirs are Liberal universities, ,Liberal think tanks, Liberal media. That's what "counts" to them. What a surprise!

Well, I have seen some studies on this posted in conservative media. Wanna see them ?

Actually, this all is.just a deflection from just common knowledge that certainly doesn't need any source or study, liberal or conservative. Everyone knows that white women beneficiaries of AA, are a tiny fraction of all the white daughters & wives of victimized white men.

In fact, even these white beneficiaries themselves are victims, by virtue of the white men victims who are part of their households (husbands, fathers, sons, brothers,). They are simultaneously both beneficiaries, and victims.

30% of the total population, that holds 70% of managerial positions in the workforce are far from "victims", you dunce.

 

[harmonica]

In 1961, when Affirmative Action began, making blacks the beneficiaries of racism, and whites the victims.

Sure. AA was introduced in 1961, and magically overnight, millions of black people displaced millions of white people in the work force and colleges.

Jim Crow had not even been totally abolished in 1961, you dumbass.

SMGDH.

A 1995 report by the California Senate Government Organization Committee found that white women held a majority of managerial jobs (57,250) compared with African Americans (10,500), Latinos (19,000), and Asian Americans (24,600) after the first two decades of affirmative action in the private sector.

In 2015, a disproportionate representation of white women business owners set off concerns that New York state would not be able to bridge a racial gap among public contractors.
who tripled between 1970 and 2002, from 7.6 percent to 25.2 percent, and in 2009 women were receiving a majority of bachelor's, master's, and doctoral degrees, according to the American Association of University Women. To be clear, these numbers include women of all races; however, breaking down affirmative action beneficiaries by race and gender seems to be rare in reported data.

Contrary to popular belief, affirmative action isn't just black. It's white, too. But affirmative action's white female faces are rarely at the center of the conversation.



Source:
White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

And as an information-deprived, liberal, victim of liberal Omission media, you still don't know why white women are among AA's fiercest critics ?

I find it hard to believe that I have not already educated you to this, but for the 300th time or so, the number of white women gaining from AA, is a drop in the bucket compared to the many millions of white daughters and wives of white men discriminated against. Ho hum.

And in many AA programs, white women are discriminated against too, as are Hispanics and Asians, with only blacks being the beneficiaries.

Nonsense. Until you can produce any credible facts which refute the success of white females since the implementation of AA, as well as statistical proof of blacks that have benefitted from AA at the expense of "millions of whites" as you claim, you are just typing incoherent gibberish as usual.

Your made up BS does not count as a credible source.

Oh yeah right, like you really need "statistical proof" to ascertain that blacks benefitted from AA at the expense of millions of whites. Lol

Do you have any idea how idiotic you sound ? Actually, the word shouldn't be " millions", it should be hundreds of millions
Do you know how many hundreds of millions of whites have lived in America over the past 59 years ? (counting all births and deaths turnover)

Yes. In fact you should produce statistical information to support what has literally been made up bullshit so far.

Mathematically your assertion that of "hundreds of millions of whites" have been victims of because of blacks benefitting from AA is ludicrous. This is America, you retard. And based on the history of the country, there would be anarchy in the streets if hundreds of millions of whites were victimized to benefit whites.

How in the hell can a population of 38 million blacks benefit at the expense

In 1961, when Affirmative Action began, making blacks the beneficiaries of racism, and whites the victims.

Sure. AA was introduced in 1961, and magically overnight, millions of black people displaced millions of white people in the work force and colleges.

Jim Crow had not even been totally abolished in 1961, you dumbass.

SMGDH.

A 1995 report by the California Senate Government Organization Committee found that white women held a majority of managerial jobs (57,250) compared with African Americans (10,500), Latinos (19,000), and Asian Americans (24,600) after the first two decades of affirmative action in the private sector.

In 2015, a disproportionate representation of white women business owners set off concerns that New York state would not be able to bridge a racial gap among public contractors.
who tripled between 1970 and 2002, from 7.6 percent to 25.2 percent, and in 2009 women were receiving a majority of bachelor's, master's, and doctoral degrees, according to the American Association of University Women. To be clear, these numbers include women of all races; however, breaking down affirmative action beneficiaries by race and gender seems to be rare in reported data.

Contrary to popular belief, affirmative action isn't just black. It's white, too. But affirmative action's white female faces are rarely at the center of the conversation.



Source:
White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

And as an information-deprived, liberal, victim of liberal Omission media, you still don't know why white women are among AA's fiercest critics ?

I find it hard to believe that I have not already educated you to this, but for the 300th time or so, the number of white women gaining from AA, is a drop in the bucket compared to the many millions of white daughters and wives of white men discriminated against. Ho hum.

And in many AA programs, white women are discriminated against too, as are Hispanics and Asians, with only blacks being the beneficiaries.

Nonsense. Until you can produce any credible facts which refute the success of white females since the implementation of AA, as well as statistical proof of blacks that have benefitted from AA at the expense of "millions of whites" as you claim, you are just typing incoherent gibberish as usual.

Your made up BS does not count as a credible source.

Oh yeah right, like you really need "statistical proof" to ascertain that blacks benefitted from AA at the expense of millions of whites. Lol

Do you have any idea how idiotic you sound ? Actually, the word shouldn't be " millions", it should be hundreds of millions
Do you know how many hundreds of millions of whites have lived in America over the past 59 years ? (counting all births and deaths turnover)

For one who often boasts about his educational background, your logic and common sense is nonexistent.

You should produce statistical information to support what has literally been made up bullshit so far by you.

Mathematically your assertion that of "hundreds of millions of whites" have been victims because of blacks benefitting from AA is ludicrous.

This is America, you idiot, and based on the history of this country, there would be anarchy in the streets if "hundreds of millions of whites" were victimized to "benefit blacks".

In fact, in 1961, when AA was first passed, Jim Crow was still in existence in the south. If blacks had benefitted at the expense of whites in ANY way in that geographical region during that era, there would have been a million white sheet wearing nuts like you declaring open season on blacks, you damn fool.

Furthermore, since the introduction of AA, the black population at it peak has never exceeded 30 to 38 million, and out of those 30 to 38 million, those of working and college age total far less than the entire total of that demographic.

How in the hell can a part of a population of 38 million blacks benefit at the expense of nearly 3 times as many white people?

That is the DUMBEST statemen ever made in this forum. Even for you.

THAT is the dumbest statement ever made in this forum --even for you

 

[protectionist]

When did speaking out against the racism by whites become racism?

In 1961, when Affirmative Action began, making blacks the beneficiaries of racism, and whites the victims.

Since that didn't happen, you didn't answer the question.

That did happen, by JFK, and again in 1965, by LBJ. You can't change history.

Definition of fact: 1 a : something that has actual existence ·space exploration is now a fact b : an actual occurrence ·prove the fact of damage 2 : a piece of information presented as having objective reality ·These are the hard facts of the case. 3 : the quality of being actual : actuality ·a question of fact hinges on evidence 4 : a thing done: such as a : crime ·accessory after the fact b archaic : action c obsolete : feat

Fact-

Affirmative Action and What It Means for Women

Affirmative action programs make a difference. A government study showed that women made greater gains in employment at companies doing business with the federal government, and therefore subject to federal affirmative action requirements, than at other companies: female employment rose 15.2% at federal contractors, and only 2.2% elsewhere. The same study showed that federal contractors employed women at higher levels and in better paying jobs than other firms.(40)

Many individual companies that have adopted affirmative action plans have demonstrated the impact on women. For example, after IBM set up its affirmative action program, its number of female officials and managers more than tripled in less than ten years.(41) Corporate commitment to women and minorities enabled Corning to double its number of female and black employees and increase the proportion of women managers to 29%.(42) Motorola has been rewarded with an increased representation of women and people of color in upper-level management. The company had two women and six persons of color as vice president in 1989, but boasts 33 female and 40 minority vice presidents today.(43)

Affirmative action requirements have changed entire industries. In 1978, the Labor Department’s Office of Federal Contract Compliance (OFCCP) reviewed the employment practices of the five largest banks in Cleveland. Three years later, the percentage of women officials and managers at these institutions had risen more than 20%. When OFCCP first looked at the coal mining industry in 1973, there were no women coal miners. By 1980, 8.7% were women.(44)

Litigation against police and fire departments has resulted in affirmative action plans that have produced dramatic increases in the employment of women (and minorities) in these fields as well.(45) In 1983, for example, women made up 9.4% of the nation’s police, and 1% of firefighters. Sixteen years later, women are 16.9% of police, and 2.8% of firefighters.(46)

Women-owned businesses, which have also benefitted from affirmative action requirements, have increased since 1987 by 103%. Today, there are nearly 9.1 million woman-owned businesses, employing over 27.5 million people.(47)

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STFU.

Go Big Blue!

Thanks so much for posting this IM2! I keep forgetting that they all view Affirmative Action as a "black" law in spite of the verbiage of the law being race neutral:

In 1961, President John F. Kennedy issued an executive order mandating government contractors to
"take affirmative action to ensure that applicants are employed, and that employees are treated during
employment, without regard to their race, creed, color, or national origin." ( Executive Order 10925)​

Oh "without regard to their race", huh ? Gee, isn't that nice. And that's why the AA questionnaires ask us what race we are, right ?

 

[protectionist]

In 1961, when Affirmative Action began, making blacks the beneficiaries of racism, and whites the victims.

Sure. AA was introduced in 1961, and magically overnight, millions of black people displaced millions of white people in the work force and colleges.

Jim Crow had not even been totally abolished in 1961, you dumbass.

SMGDH.

A 1995 report by the California Senate Government Organization Committee found that white women held a majority of managerial jobs (57,250) compared with African Americans (10,500), Latinos (19,000), and Asian Americans (24,600) after the first two decades of affirmative action in the private sector.

In 2015, a disproportionate representation of white women business owners set off concerns that New York state would not be able to bridge a racial gap among public contractors.
who tripled between 1970 and 2002, from 7.6 percent to 25.2 percent, and in 2009 women were receiving a majority of bachelor's, master's, and doctoral degrees, according to the American Association of University Women. To be clear, these numbers include women of all races; however, breaking down affirmative action beneficiaries by race and gender seems to be rare in reported data.

Contrary to popular belief, affirmative action isn't just black. It's white, too. But affirmative action's white female faces are rarely at the center of the conversation.



Source:
White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

And as an information-deprived, liberal, victim of liberal Omission media, you still don't know why white women are among AA's fiercest critics ?

I find it hard to believe that I have not already educated you to this, but for the 300th time or so, the number of white women gaining from AA, is a drop in the bucket compared to the many millions of white daughters and wives of white men discriminated against. Ho hum.

And in many AA programs, white women are discriminated against too, as are Hispanics and Asians, with only blacks being the beneficiaries.

Nonsense. Until you can produce any credible facts which refute the success of white females since the implementation of AA, as well as statistical proof of blacks that have benefitted from AA at the expense of "millions of whites" as you claim, you are just typing incoherent gibberish as usual.

Your made up BS does not count as a credible source.

Here is yet another example of liberal mind set thinking it is in control of everyone.
As I've Posted many times, liberals always try to put issues into a box of what they call a "credible source". And invariably, these so,-called credible sources of theirs are Liberal universities, ,Liberal think tanks, Liberal media. That's what "counts" to them. What a surprise!

Well, I have seen some studies on this posted in conservative media. Wanna see them ?

Actually, this all is.just a deflection from just common knowledge that certainly doesn't need any source or study, liberal or conservative. Everyone knows that white women beneficiaries of AA, are a tiny fraction of all the white daughters & wives of victimized white men.

In fact, even these white beneficiaries themselves are victims, by virtue of the white men victims who are part of their households (husbands, fathers, sons, brothers,). They are simultaneously both beneficiaries, and victims.

30% of the total population, that holds 70% of managerial positions in the workforce are far from "victims", you dunce.

Do you have any idea what you're talking about ? What "30%" ? Who ?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

In 1961, when Affirmative Action began, making blacks the beneficiaries of racism, and whites the victims.

Sure. AA was introduced in 1961, and magically overnight, millions of black people displaced millions of white people in the work force and colleges.

Jim Crow had not even been totally abolished in 1961, you dumbass.

SMGDH.

A 1995 report by the California Senate Government Organization Committee found that white women held a majority of managerial jobs (57,250) compared with African Americans (10,500), Latinos (19,000), and Asian Americans (24,600) after the first two decades of affirmative action in the private sector.

In 2015, a disproportionate representation of white women business owners set off concerns that New York state would not be able to bridge a racial gap among public contractors.
who tripled between 1970 and 2002, from 7.6 percent to 25.2 percent, and in 2009 women were receiving a majority of bachelor's, master's, and doctoral degrees, according to the American Association of University Women. To be clear, these numbers include women of all races; however, breaking down affirmative action beneficiaries by race and gender seems to be rare in reported data.

Contrary to popular belief, affirmative action isn't just black. It's white, too. But affirmative action's white female faces are rarely at the center of the conversation.



Source:
White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

And as an information-deprived, liberal, victim of liberal Omission media, you still don't know why white women are among AA's fiercest critics ?

I find it hard to believe that I have not already educated you to this, but for the 300th time or so, the number of white women gaining from AA, is a drop in the bucket compared to the many millions of white daughters and wives of white men discriminated against. Ho hum.

And in many AA programs, white women are discriminated against too, as are Hispanics and Asians, with only blacks being the beneficiaries.

Most white males in the early 1970's when affirmative action became the law of the land could not get good jobs out of high school. Minorities and women were put on the top of the list. White women cleaned up as they entered the work force enmasse. Lots of fun I tell you. Before that white males were dominant. To be the second half of the baby boomer white males was not the best time.

Bullshit.

There you go again. I experienced it. There were many others that experienced it. Applying for employment at electric companies, gas work companies, post office, police departments, and on and on. If the people masquerading as newsmen actually did their work they would report it. Those white guys who went to college at that time still had opportunities as the universities were not infected yet. I will never forget it. Even after leaving the military and getting some points for job tests it still existed.

Let me ask you something and it's a sincere question. Sometimes companies merge or one will buy out the other. They have employees who have seniority from both sides and they have to work out how to fairly integrate the two sides so that people who have worked and earned their seniority don't lose it due to the company reorganization.

The employees of the company who gets bought out generally are grateful not to lose their seniority but the existing company employees can feel resentful that the level they were trying to obtain now may take a little bit longer because there are more employees in the mix.

I realize this is kind of abstract but it's the only way I could think of to try to point out, that white males dominated the employment market because they had the power to do so, however that doesn't mean that they were entitled to the entire market, they just managed to ensure that everyone else was shut-out.

What affirmative action did was open the market up so that others could compete. The falsehood that is often proferred is that the jobs lost were lost to "less qualified" non-whites and from everything I've seen and read there is nothing to support this theory other than "well if they were qualified why were they never able to get a job without AA".

So in one case there is a merger, in the other case it's the company, because there is now a law in place that says they can no longer discriminate, opening up it's opportunities to people it previously would not consider.

Does this scenario explain any of this any better or create a better understanding of what actually occurred? And just FYI, the federal government agency which enforces the Civil Rights Act of 1964 from which the Affirmative Action order is based is the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, emphasis on "Opportunity", because that's all that the law provided other than legal redress of it's violation which previously did not exist. It's entirely up to the individual however to make something of that opportunity, and as we have, seen many have.

 

[katsteve2012]

Sure. AA was introduced in 1961, and magically overnight, millions of black people displaced millions of white people in the work force and colleges.

Jim Crow had not even been totally abolished in 1961, you dumbass.

SMGDH.

A 1995 report by the California Senate Government Organization Committee found that white women held a majority of managerial jobs (57,250) compared with African Americans (10,500), Latinos (19,000), and Asian Americans (24,600) after the first two decades of affirmative action in the private sector.

In 2015, a disproportionate representation of white women business owners set off concerns that New York state would not be able to bridge a racial gap among public contractors.
who tripled between 1970 and 2002, from 7.6 percent to 25.2 percent, and in 2009 women were receiving a majority of bachelor's, master's, and doctoral degrees, according to the American Association of University Women. To be clear, these numbers include women of all races; however, breaking down affirmative action beneficiaries by race and gender seems to be rare in reported data.

Contrary to popular belief, affirmative action isn't just black. It's white, too. But affirmative action's white female faces are rarely at the center of the conversation.



Source:
White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

And as an information-deprived, liberal, victim of liberal Omission media, you still don't know why white women are among AA's fiercest critics ?

I find it hard to believe that I have not already educated you to this, but for the 300th time or so, the number of white women gaining from AA, is a drop in the bucket compared to the many millions of white daughters and wives of white men discriminated against. Ho hum.

And in many AA programs, white women are discriminated against too, as are Hispanics and Asians, with only blacks being the beneficiaries.

Nonsense. Until you can produce any credible facts which refute the success of white females since the implementation of AA, as well as statistical proof of blacks that have benefitted from AA at the expense of "millions of whites" as you claim, you are just typing incoherent gibberish as usual.

Your made up BS does not count as a credible source.

Oh yeah right, like you really need "statistical proof" to ascertain that blacks benefitted from AA at the expense of millions of whites. Lol

Do you have any idea how idiotic you sound ? Actually, the word shouldn't be " millions", it should be hundreds of millions
Do you know how many hundreds of millions of whites have lived in America over the past 59 years ? (counting all births and deaths turnover)

Yes. In fact you should produce statistical information to support what has literally been made up bullshit so far.

Mathematically your assertion that of "hundreds of millions of whites" have been victims of because of blacks benefitting from AA is ludicrous. This is America, you retard. And based on the history of the country, there would be anarchy in the streets if hundreds of millions of whites were victimized to benefit whites.

How in the hell can a population of 38 million blacks benefit at the expense

Sure. AA was introduced in 1961, and magically overnight, millions of black people displaced millions of white people in the work force and colleges.

Jim Crow had not even been totally abolished in 1961, you dumbass.

SMGDH.

A 1995 report by the California Senate Government Organization Committee found that white women held a majority of managerial jobs (57,250) compared with African Americans (10,500), Latinos (19,000), and Asian Americans (24,600) after the first two decades of affirmative action in the private sector.

In 2015, a disproportionate representation of white women business owners set off concerns that New York state would not be able to bridge a racial gap among public contractors.
who tripled between 1970 and 2002, from 7.6 percent to 25.2 percent, and in 2009 women were receiving a majority of bachelor's, master's, and doctoral degrees, according to the American Association of University Women. To be clear, these numbers include women of all races; however, breaking down affirmative action beneficiaries by race and gender seems to be rare in reported data.

Contrary to popular belief, affirmative action isn't just black. It's white, too. But affirmative action's white female faces are rarely at the center of the conversation.



Source:
White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

And as an information-deprived, liberal, victim of liberal Omission media, you still don't know why white women are among AA's fiercest critics ?

I find it hard to believe that I have not already educated you to this, but for the 300th time or so, the number of white women gaining from AA, is a drop in the bucket compared to the many millions of white daughters and wives of white men discriminated against. Ho hum.

And in many AA programs, white women are discriminated against too, as are Hispanics and Asians, with only blacks being the beneficiaries.

Nonsense. Until you can produce any credible facts which refute the success of white females since the implementation of AA, as well as statistical proof of blacks that have benefitted from AA at the expense of "millions of whites" as you claim, you are just typing incoherent gibberish as usual.

Your made up BS does not count as a credible source.

Oh yeah right, like you really need "statistical proof" to ascertain that blacks benefitted from AA at the expense of millions of whites. Lol

Do you have any idea how idiotic you sound ? Actually, the word shouldn't be " millions", it should be hundreds of millions
Do you know how many hundreds of millions of whites have lived in America over the past 59 years ? (counting all births and deaths turnover)

For one who often boasts about his educational background, your logic and common sense is nonexistent.

You should produce statistical information to support what has literally been made up bullshit so far by you.

Mathematically your assertion that of "hundreds of millions of whites" have been victims because of blacks benefitting from AA is ludicrous.

This is America, you idiot, and based on the history of this country, there would be anarchy in the streets if "hundreds of millions of whites" were victimized to "benefit blacks".

In fact, in 1961, when AA was first passed, Jim Crow was still in existence in the south. If blacks had benefitted at the expense of whites in ANY way in that geographical region during that era, there would have been a million white sheet wearing nuts like you declaring open season on blacks, you damn fool.

Furthermore, since the introduction of AA, the black population at it peak has never exceeded 30 to 38 million, and out of those 30 to 38 million, those of working and college age total far less than the entire total of that demographic.

How in the hell can a part of a population of 38 million blacks benefit at the expense of nearly 3 times as many white people?

That is the DUMBEST statemen ever made in this forum. Even for you.

THAT is the dumbest statement ever made in this forum --even for you

Prove it to be wrong, dipstick.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

When did speaking out against the racism by whites become racism?

In 1961, when Affirmative Action began, making blacks the beneficiaries of racism, and whites the victims.

Sure. AA was introduced in 1961, and magically overnight, millions of black people displaced millions of white people in the work force and colleges.

Jim Crow had not even been totally abolished in 1961, you dumbass.

SMGDH.

A 1995 report by the California Senate Government Organization Committee found that white women held a majority of managerial jobs (57,250) compared with African Americans (10,500), Latinos (19,000), and Asian Americans (24,600) after the first two decades of affirmative action in the private sector.

In 2015, a disproportionate representation of white women business owners set off concerns that New York state would not be able to bridge a racial gap among public contractors.
who tripled between 1970 and 2002, from 7.6 percent to 25.2 percent, and in 2009 women were receiving a majority of bachelor's, master's, and doctoral degrees, according to the American Association of University Women. To be clear, these numbers include women of all races; however, breaking down affirmative action beneficiaries by race and gender seems to be rare in reported data.

Contrary to popular belief, affirmative action isn't just black. It's white, too. But affirmative action's white female faces are rarely at the center of the conversation.



Source:
White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

And as an information-deprived, liberal, victim of liberal Omission media, you still don't know why white women are among AA's fiercest critics ?

I find it hard to believe that I have not already educated you to this, but for the 300th time or so, the number of white women gaining from AA, is a drop in the bucket compared to the many millions of white daughters and wives of white men discriminated against. Ho hum.

And in many AA programs, white women are discriminated against too, as are Hispanics and Asians, with only blacks being the beneficiaries.

Most white males in the early 1970's when affirmative action became the law of the land could not get good jobs out of high school.

What was considered a good job back then because we were raised on the belief that you got a "good" job by going to college not just graduating high school.

 

[protectionist]

White supremacy is a term generally associated with the current new-nazi wack job types. Among decent people in this country, the term generally carries a negative connotation, and conjures images of inbred ingrates wearing sheets with small weenies and ugly women, but that’s just my impression.

It is inaccurate, but the left wing / liberal / socialist/ communist combine writes the rules and to the victor goes the spoils.

You're a white supremacist.

You're a black supremacist, racist pig.

Hey, someone who was crying and calling the police because his feelings were hurt when a poster here called him a dumbass, should not be calling anyone else names.

How well do you think that's going to play in your poor pitiful me elder abuse case?

A lot better than your grade in the Quiz for Liberals, that you punked out of.

 

[katsteve2012]

Sure. AA was introduced in 1961, and magically overnight, millions of black people displaced millions of white people in the work force and colleges.

Jim Crow had not even been totally abolished in 1961, you dumbass.

SMGDH.

A 1995 report by the California Senate Government Organization Committee found that white women held a majority of managerial jobs (57,250) compared with African Americans (10,500), Latinos (19,000), and Asian Americans (24,600) after the first two decades of affirmative action in the private sector.

In 2015, a disproportionate representation of white women business owners set off concerns that New York state would not be able to bridge a racial gap among public contractors.
who tripled between 1970 and 2002, from 7.6 percent to 25.2 percent, and in 2009 women were receiving a majority of bachelor's, master's, and doctoral degrees, according to the American Association of University Women. To be clear, these numbers include women of all races; however, breaking down affirmative action beneficiaries by race and gender seems to be rare in reported data.

Contrary to popular belief, affirmative action isn't just black. It's white, too. But affirmative action's white female faces are rarely at the center of the conversation.



Source:
White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

And as an information-deprived, liberal, victim of liberal Omission media, you still don't know why white women are among AA's fiercest critics ?

I find it hard to believe that I have not already educated you to this, but for the 300th time or so, the number of white women gaining from AA, is a drop in the bucket compared to the many millions of white daughters and wives of white men discriminated against. Ho hum.

And in many AA programs, white women are discriminated against too, as are Hispanics and Asians, with only blacks being the beneficiaries.

Nonsense. Until you can produce any credible facts which refute the success of white females since the implementation of AA, as well as statistical proof of blacks that have benefitted from AA at the expense of "millions of whites" as you claim, you are just typing incoherent gibberish as usual.

Your made up BS does not count as a credible source.

Here is yet another example of liberal mind set thinking it is in control of everyone.
As I've Posted many times, liberals always try to put issues into a box of what they call a "credible source". And invariably, these so,-called credible sources of theirs are Liberal universities, ,Liberal think tanks, Liberal media. That's what "counts" to them. What a surprise!

Well, I have seen some studies on this posted in conservative media. Wanna see them ?

Actually, this all is.just a deflection from just common knowledge that certainly doesn't need any source or study, liberal or conservative. Everyone knows that white women beneficiaries of AA, are a tiny fraction of all the white daughters & wives of victimized white men.

In fact, even these white beneficiaries themselves are victims, by virtue of the white men victims who are part of their households (husbands, fathers, sons, brothers,). They are simultaneously both beneficiaries, and victims.

30% of the total population, that holds 70% of managerial positions in the workforce are far from "victims", you dunce.

Do you have any idea what you're talking about ? What "30%" ? Who ?

My God. You really are an idiot. White males are about 30% of the population, yet hold 65% of elected positionscsnd nearly 70% of managerial positions in the workforce.


I already told you that your senility is no excuse for being stupid.




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